Don't want to make (to many) mistakes.

[bugsy673]

Hello

I seem to have messed up already, and posted on another topic .

But anyways I will give a brief introduction.

I am a farmer from Australia who is very new to this.  I have thought about it for a while but have not been game enough to try yet.

I thought that I'd sign up here and get as much advice as possible so (as I said in the subject) I hopefully won't make to many mistakes.

Cheers

[Kuna]

Aussie Aussie Aussie...

Oi Oi Oi

 

Ummmm...  OK, OK, I'll get serious.

G'day Bugsy, and welcome to RWD...

Mate,  if you don't want to make too many mistakes you've come to the right place.  At least let me say this, we ALL make mistakes, but at RWD you're going to find the most amazing array of information but choosing the path that suits you best is up to you.

You're going to see really painful failures... you'll see many lucky buggers...  most of all you'll see a heap of blokes swapping ideas, encouragement and stories - all aimed at helping others.

Now you'll also find some conflict and a few blues...  but that's only because we're passionate!

Now,  I want to know where you're from in Oz???  What sort of farm you have...  What you're looking for and what you've heard about all this.

You'll find a few other Aussies on here...  I/O and another guy (OzTraveller) lurks a lot.

btw...  you're going to hear some men say you're at a disadvantage because you live in Rural Oz.  This may be true but the most important thing is that you account for where you live when you start looking for ladies.

If I can help in any way feel free to drop me a PM at any time.

Cheers,

Kuna

BTW...  almost 2 years ago I joined RWD and now I'm married to the most spectacular girl  Yes she's beautiful but her character is the thing that everyone admires.  She's a one in a million but there's more great girls over there who are almost as amazing as my wife.   

[bugsy673]

G'day Kuna, nice to meet you.

My farm is just outside a town called Bombala,  about 2 hrs south of Canberra.

I have about 2200 acres upon which I raise prime lamb, beef cattle and merinos.  Maybe I'm mad being a farmer but hell someone has to do it.

I've heard lots of horror stories, not many good ones like yours but I figure it can't be all that bad or else nobody would do it.

I've done some looking on a number of agency sites but haven't signed on to any as yet.

Any advice on agencies, travel, visas etc would be greatly appreciated.

C'mon Aussie.  Lets rock the FSU.
 :evil:
Bugsy673

[steviej]

Welcome, Bugsby!
Whatever caused you to start thinking about an FSU wife, you've come to the right place to discuss and learn, as Kuna said. Some important things to consider, which you'll see discussed in many threads are:
- how old are you?
- have you been married before?
- do you have dependent children?
- would you accept new dependent children?
- what's your financial situation? You'll hear quite a bit on this board about the cost, initial and ongoing, of doing this. Think BIG bucks.
- assuming success, there is substantial cost ongoing because your wife will very likely be dependent on you for everything, I mean EVERYTHING, for a long time, sometimes forever. Can you handle that cheerfully and lovingly?
- As Kuna said, you want to make it clear in your search from the beginning to these ladies that you live in, and your life, are centered in a rural area. Many FSU ladies do not want to live in a rual area. Their perception is different from those of us in the West. To them, rural areas, "the village" are the most poverty ridden dirty and forgotten places. There is just no good life for them there, nothing left but old drunk men on tiny pensions. It's not true in the West (including AU), but it is true there. BUT, there will also be some wonderful ladies who will consider it for the right man. You will have to do some education for the ladies of interest so that they can really get a hold on what kind of life you are offering, which is far better and much different than their impressions of the same in FSU areas.

As all the married men here will tell you, if you DO happen to make it all the way through this, and find and marry a wonderful FSU lady, there is a promise of great happiness with a truly unique and wonderful woman. You will hear this over and over from the husbands. You will not hear American men speak so highly of their AW wives as the men here speak of their FSU wives.

Good luck mate. All here will be cheering your entire journey!!

[Gator]

Welcome Bugsy,

In America you would not be called a farmer.  You are a "rancher" in our lingo.

It sounds as if you have a large operation.  However, I do not know how much it will impress RW.

For sure, you will need to avoid 98% of the women from the big cities.  It is not that they would look down on a rancher, rather few would be content to live in a place where the nearest city has a population of only 334,000 and it is two hours away. 

Yet, I am sure you will still be able to find many, many RW who would be happy living there.  Some women enjoy planting potatoes, picking cherries, etc. at their family dacha.  Read their profiles carefully.

It may be best that you place an advertisement.

Stay around and we will try to help you.

[I/O]

Bugsy: Being an ex "Cocky" myself, albeit, a very long time ago and having lived "in town" or thereabouts for the last 20 odd years, having been there and done what you are considering and having seen a few sides of life, I can to an extent, relate to where you are at. You will have all and sundry tell you how impossible it is to find a RW who will live in the countryside. Frankly, I think it is a bit of horseschit. You find the right woman for you and she will go to hell and back with you, RW more so than many I have seen. Nevertheless, bare this in mind, my wife comes from one the 10 largest cities in Russia and her comments on rural life here..............."I/O, if we lived here (some farm or another we might be driving past at the time) I would cry every day". I fully believe she is telling it as it is, but NOTE, she didn't and has never said she "wouldn't" live in the bush.

From your description of your enterprise and having seen a bit of your area, I am assured you are not poor and perhaps you are also quite well educated? If my guess is correct, you may have had friends who were city educated, met their wives whilst they were there and ultimately returned to the land? I saw many as such. All of their wives struggled a little for a year or so and later, without exception, those women all said they could never return to urban life. I have seen nothing to make me believe a RW will be any different other than it will be 10 fold harder for her in the early stages. Having said that, I KNOW that she would receive far more community support in rural Oz than in the Urbain's. I think you know what I am talking about.

In spite of the support available, you need to consider a RW's needs for shopping (They are much greater than an AW), you need to consider the "Ah she's a Russian Bride" (Like they have bride shops in Moscow or something) comments which will be more prevalent in some sections of the rural community. You need to consider her language improvement needs. There is many aspects which are advantaged by city dwelling in the first stages, but frankly, I think they pale fairly quickly.

Climatically, your location is well suited to adjustment and understand, this issue is not insignificant. If you ever get through this caper, I'd suggest you have a lady arrive at lambing time.................LOL, you'll never keep her in the house, she will melt at such a sight, most RW do. You will no doubt have a taste for quality clothing, a trait which will do you no harm if you marry a RW . Do not underestimate the city girl can't move to the country thinking, it is a real issue and you will find plenty who will flat out tell you they would not marry into a rural situation. You will need to search carefully and long. I have to say, although it runs somewhat against what I might usually say, I would tend to look to Siberia as one hunting ground and before others start the usual BS, that comment has nothing to do with the fact my wife is from there. My comment is based on a little knowledge of Siberian women and although I think any RW could adjust to rural life if she chose, I think a Siberian woman (Generally speaking) might be better suited.

You'll find a diverse array of opinions here and watch the space if you disagree with anyone, they'll even threaten to sue you if you don't dance their tune. LOL. Take it all with a grain of salt but pick out the practicals you can use. In your situation, you are not poor, I'd strongly suggest you find a lady or two on a casual friendship basis and go visit, but make your first visit much more a holiday with "Add Ons". Use a trip to asses the situation for yourself and after the trip, then consider the logistics and or if you really want to persue it all.

As for agents..............in your business, you have been paying agents all your life, do you really like doing that so much? My suggestion is to use the websites BUT, get over there for a visit and you will then have a much clearer picture in your mind of what is real and what isn't when you are looking at a well proportioned vealer in the yard (On a site).

All the best.

I/O 

[OlgaH]

About Siberia you can read here and also don't forget to read about Federal subjects of Siberia. BTW I'm from Siberia 

[OlgaH]

40% of Moscow region land used for agriculture  (horticulture, potato plantation, different vegetable plantations...) But the animal husbandry (meat and dairy produce) predominates over agriculture.

You never know where you can find your soul mate ... just be honest 

[GreginGa]

First off Bugsy, good luck. If I were you I would be as brutally honest about your lifestyle as you can possibly be. The is no doubt that living on a farm will not hinder you in your search with some Ukrainian women. The key word here is "some". We just have to get you hooked up with those. With so much land and acreage,are you able to tear a loose from work and make the sacrifices that it will take. I know you dont live just around the corner. I think you will probably find that Kuna will be a big help with what you're trying to do. Kuna, you live in Australia or New Zealand?

[Billgreen54]

You have come to the right, just take your time and be honest with the ladies you meet.  We just had a friend come here from your part of the world and he is communicating with a nice lady.  They found each other through some friends.  Also?  Stay away from so called Marriage agencies.  They are endless money pits and most of the time they employ girls just to keep you in chat and send gifts.  Many men don't realize that when they send a gift to an agency the gift is rarely ever given to the lady it was intended for.  You spend 50 dollars for a flower bouquet and half goes to the web site.  The other half goes to the agency.  They spend no more that 5 dollars for the actual flowers.  Often the agency splits the money with the girl.  Just be careful.