False sites

[Kevin]

Hey folks.

Please disregard any sites that claim to be me or list false statements and partial emails. If a site doesn't include the owner name and contact information it is one of the false sites.

The only real sites are http://www.khersongirls.com and http://www.honestmarriageagencies.com and site that refer back to these domains.

Thanks

Kevin Hayes
http://www.khersongirls.com

[anono]

kevin, you have such a bullet-proof reputation that i think anyone with any knowledge will know the truth.

it'll be newbies who do not know any better and they will find you if they keep learning anyway.

i run a business and our reputuation is such that it can take hits and in fact, it usually backfires on those who try and make us look bad....

you have a good philosophy and agency.

[Kevin]

[user=14]anono[/user]

 When people ask or use common sense they recognize the sites as false. But you would be surprise how many don't.  One of the partial emails on some of the sites is from a guy name Steve P. He read the sites and though they were real and sent out a nasty email to me in reference to the work we do for the street children. When I showed him the proof of what we do He sent out a letter back to the owners of the false sites. You will notice that the sites only have one of his letters. :>

thanks

Kevin

[Frank]

Kevin,

I am impressed that you work with street children.  Is there some way to find out more about what you are doing?  My fiancee' goes to the orphanage in her city at times to help out.  Frank

 

[Kevin]

Frank

Currently we have 4 programs we are working on.

1. We provide medical, clothing and food for the street children who live close to our office. Everyone one of these children know who we are and come to our office daily for assistance.

2. We provide support for the region Children sheltor and half-way house. By providing material needs such as appliances, beds, medicine, clothes, shoes and just about every major item that they need.

3. We are a drop off point for many organizations who donate supplies to the local orphanges. We take the supplies and get documentation that prevents orphanges from reselling any large item. We do bi-annual inventory checkups.

4. Our latest campain is to provide coal and power to the families living in the villages around Kherson during the winter. This is a new project that we are working on this winter. So far we have delivered around $500 worth of coal to the local families and our goal for next winter is too stock pile enough to supply 3 of the local villages with enough coal for all of the familes with children.

See www.khersongirls.com/children

[Kevin]

Bruno

 The site russianwomens.com is a doorway site for the keywords russian womens. I got the keywords from a keyword generator. I went ahead and clean it up a little. 

Anytime you look at a web site, take a look at the html for the page. You will find that in order to get listed on search engines you have to type every possible keyword that a person would type.

Kevin

[Bruno]

[glow=red]REMOVED BY MYSELF : THESE FIGHT IS NO INTERESTING FOR MAN WHO SEARCH RW[/glow] 

[jb]

REMOVED BY MYSELF : THESE FIGHT IS NO INTERESTING FOR MAN WHO SEARCH RW

Bruno, you are quite right if you have already found the woman of your dreams, but if a man is still involved in the search I think he should be very interested to learn of the dishonest agencies in the business.  Where he spends his money, where he gets the biggest bang for the buck, where he can be sure the woman he's writing to is real, where he will get ripped off with translations costs for letters generated by the agency, not the woman, all of these things are interesting to men involved in RW dating.  

I have never had to use an agency, I met my wife through friends and business trips and she spoke English to begin with, but if I had been in the rank newbie's shoes, I'd be extremely interested to learn who could be trusted and who could not.  

We are lucky to have some agency owners around here who do care about their clients .  Newbies can learn a lot by asking questions directed to these very knowledgable agency owners.

[Bruno]

JB, all the "removed by myself ..." are post that i have deleted... one was about technical info for the spam, a other about a page from Kevin where some little text almost impossible to read was about sex, and the last was some advice about page ranking and how to be a good webmaster ( ethic )...

The information was interesting for Kevin but not for the visitor of these forum... i have choose to remove it and continue my discussion via PM ( personal message )...

It was the information that i have write about the fight who was not interesting for other... too much technical and outside topic... and i have choose to remove it...

I have no problem with what Kevin have write

[Felice]

First of all I did never want to publish, I think you agency-owners must create a systen to solve scamming instead of publishing your nonsense like you do now. the FBI has a task in it together with the Russian police. But they are all corrupt, it will never be solved, so I all will always be in vane. Kevin, you have 14 reply's, you want to get more, you will have soon more. I did not not want to publish here anymore and did want to reply as Felice's Sister, but it failed. So I am Felice. First Kevin you are right about John Briar. John Briar was part of scamagency Face ofSsiberia and co-owner together with John Briar.

Face of Siberia is a complete scamagency. John Briar was part of it, so it will be unthinkable that Briar is now honest. So far I do fully agree Kevin. Briar is a scammer.

You are not a scammer, you are honest in the American way. When somebody with money wants to meet one of your ladies, he can and they are NICE, be sure. So far you are honest too, it does cost a bt but your list has high quality, your prices are high quality too, but that is not scam.

 

Indeed Kevin we do know each other, you are the only person to whom I ever said: You have 24 hours to delete a girl from your data-base as scammer. Scam is crime, when somebody does pay money for a lady who is not really available for him it is scam. selling adresses from not available women as fee-scammers/ present-scammers from Lugansk is scam.

Blacklists (the most do publish scammers), most of the published women are real scammers, all scammers listed in www.scamalert.freeservers.com in www.firstdream.com in http://uaprofiler.com in www.russianwomenblacklist.com

In http://agencyscams.com (he stole these profiles from other blacklists so they are, where did you steal your photi's from Olesya Buevich Jim?) in www.russian-detective.com in www.russian-scam.org in www.antiscam.org in former www.russian-blacklist.com and www.scamdetective.net in www.antiscam.net are scammers. Some profiles in www.stop-scammers.com and in former blacklist from Bob captain www.russianblacklist.com might not have been listed on the provided evidence. about your blacklist Kevin all your profiles are scammers, but I gave you 24 hours to delete one girl. she was blonde and a eacher 20 years old. Her scam was asking 20 grivne and 50 grivnne to much for a taxi.  euro is about 7,50 grivne. You blacklisted a girl as criminal for 10 euro is 12$.

I did not accept that, writing a letter to one of your girls does cost 7$, this girl's crime was 12$. You  seem to be so aware of the poorness in Kherson that people can donate for the street-children in Kherson. 12$ is not scam, but an dishonest mistake. No reason to be placed during the rest of your life in a blacklist, where thast girl has nothing and you have everything only it dd not go according your plans. Further Kevin you have no right to keep girls once been in your data-base to show any longer after they left your agency. You are not GOD!

Kevin you are a nice guy, in your way honest but expensive. You use all blacklists as recommendation. You tell about yourself to be leader of Honest Marriage Agencies.

Indeed you do this honest too. Look at http://women.kiev.com EK1744 Galina Chernyak scammer. This woman does not look that way.  In women.kiev as birthday 28-08-1971 In Anastasia Web as 2681 born 31-08-1967 in www.heart-of-asia.com born 01-01-1971 in www.1st-attractive.com from 31-08-1971.talk to others here they do know much more using even different photo's, sending an e-mail being 32 to anoother agency a copy from her passpot being 36.

EK2543 Tatiana Gerbanova scammer. was blacklisted in www.russianblacklist.com born women.kiev 30-06-1963 but in 'www.seekingyou.net as 167353 another birthday.

In women.kiev EK2249 Yana Ageeva scammer. Was in the now closed blacklist www.scamdetective.com scam0400 is lited in Matchdoctor in ID Scam_ElenaSoul click at essays as yana82 and yana83 (did backdate her age) Very old scamprofile, I was surprised to see her still run.

EK2294 most likely NO SCAMMER Maria/Marina from most likely Ivanovo (she may lkeep her profile but must tell the truth). She is most likely an elder woman lying about her age and city. In www.makefriendsonline.com with another birthday as maria145 born 12-08-1963 from Moscow!! not Ivanovo.

When you click right on search in women.kiev you come in anastasia Web. read in Jim's blacklist why he blacklisted frepersonals.ru. They have a banner from Anastasia Web!!!

Is women.kiev a scamagency? No not that but they and you are a bit innocent.

Back to your fight with Briar from Kherson Brides. You tell not to stop because Briar did call your wife Lana a whore. This is a good reason indeed. Do not forget Scammer Briar runs an agency in Kherson, you too. You started to blacklist him,. People will think that you and he are fighting about wanting the same girls in your agency. This fight is not good for you!!! You accuse him to have 20 sites accusing you, you have 20 sites too Kevin. Stop this fight!!!! You want to hear it again, John Briar is a scammer but stop this fight, let others outside Kherson fight Briar. Last week you were banned coming there again as proffessional publ;isher with your boriung article which nobody wants to read about Briar. Nobopdy is interested Kevin, stop it.

You are in fact a nice guy Kevin, honest in your way, extremely loyal to your friends. You told to pay 20$a month to Jim. You said Jim does do more good than bad. Yopu know that Anna Bogdan from www.2oceansoflove.com is a scammer. as free man you wrote to scammer Bogdan, wjhen you wanted to meet her in Lugansk you copuld not meet her. All evidennce who somebody will ever goive to you Kevin that jim is a worthless scammer, you will always deny, because: You will never betray a friend. you will ly for it, be the hypocrite yyou are, but you will defend him.

Kevin our discussion is now finished, I will not answer you or others, butbe aware I never gave Jim 24 hours, do not answer now or later than thast cheater can go on cheating. So Kevin do not force me to give Jim 24 hours, discussion closed Kevin. Agree?

[Bruce]

Felice - who are you??? Are you a man or a woman??? How do you know so much about the scam business in Kherson???   Could you share anything with this board besides scammers???  I ask because although your information is very interesting, just posting about one area makes you look like you have an axe to grind with someone / something.

[Felice]

About UA Profiler is http://uaprofiler.com a fake blacklist too of course.

Jack does call this blacklist the worst there is. Is it? UA Profiler claims to be from Lugansk. Are they? I do doubt, otherwise they would be dead allready by accusing all these Lugansk scammers. US Profiler does not recommend agencies bit their own services, as sending gifts, flowers and background-check. Jim does call them scam, but Jim calls every concurrent scam. www.scamalert.freeservers.com does call them scam because they accuse his beloved agency Swans owned by a Belgium from scam. swans is accused from scam by Jim but he accuses everybody without reason from scam, they were accused from scam by Bob Captain from foprmer www.russianblacklist.com This published story was complete bull!!!

UA Profiler does accuse them from scam because they are parasitic (means bringing in their peofiles in open sites as Matchdoctor and Friendfinder) They are parasitic they bring their profiles in Matchdoctor. So if Swans is scam is not clear to me, but Scamalert Freeserver's reaction on UA Profiler is over reacted, because Swans is indded parasitic.

Did UA Profiler find all listed scammers itself? First all their listed scammers are really scammers, be sure or connected with scam by others.

They seem to have stolen many of their profiles from www.scamalert.freeservers.com This seems to be true. On the other hand for UA Profiler does work S.H. is Scam Hunter most likely an American who brought in lots of listed scammers in womenrussia.com in www.scamdetective.com and others. So maybe they believe these are their profiles? But indeed it looks like they stole a lot.

Do they scam like Scamalert Freeservers ddoes tell? I have no idea, maybe yes but maybe not does Svetlana Ivanovo scam, but their blacklisted scammers are scammersor used for scam at least once.

They do list a woman from his data-base from Kiev as scammer. This did the Lugansk scam-mafia. They do anything. Nobody is safe for them So he is right But scam is often stealing photo's from others and use them. blascklists do report those cases, they did so far they did nothing wrong. How many innocent women are listed?

So when one of your own women is listed in a blacklist and they give evidence that others used her for scam, than you must forget your personal anger but see the facts.

You agengy-owners must unite, build an organisation where scam is punished. here is a task for the FBI, George Bush and Putin. will it come that far? I doubt, buit please stop, to call yourself honest,. accuse other agencies. Start finally to do something.

I will not answer anybody, I am not  a professional publisher and do advice Kevin: think first and than: Don't answer. Agree?

[Bruno]

Felice - who are you??? Are you a man or a woman??? How do you know so much about the scam business in Kherson???   Could you share anything with this board besides scammers???  I ask because although your information is very interesting, just posting about one area makes you look like you have an axe to grind with someone / something.

Hello Bruce, Maybe the reply to "who is" and "why" !!! Since he don't reply to you and post other attack...

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Bruno,

   Thanks again for your help. The guy doing the attacking is A guy named Thomas from the Netherlands. He is mad because I have 2oceansoflove on my site. That's all. He has some personal vendetta against the owner Anna Bogdan, who used to work for a scam agency. I have NEVER had a complaint against this agency, so I can't believe that she is scamming. But he will attack anyone who works with them at all...so be careful, stay away from that agency.

Felice write :

"Last week you were banned coming there again as proffessional publ;isher with your boriung article which nobody wants to read about Briar. Nobopdy is interested Kevin, stop it."


Kevin banned last week ??? , article ??? Dan, it is true... it seem that i have miss something...

[Bruce]

Ah, thanks Bruno for doing the detective work.  That clears things up for me.

[Bruno]

Bruce, i am not sure that it is true of not... it is the words of Jim...

In these story, you have Felice who is busy with some mystical fight and Jim who don't post a reply... he is afraid that Dan can check his IP ( due to relation between Dan and Jack )... i have propose him to publish his reply via my own loggin... but since, big silence...

Now, my conclusion of all this is simple, everybody fight everybody... man don't know anymore who to trust, and several woman are hurt by so fight ( listed like scanner because someone use his profile, because she is in a agency who scam customer, ... )... all this make the marriage proces more difficult now that several year ago...

[Kvinna]

well? I just have visited this site and really wonder where is the page in russian language?

and where I can read the term and conditions of http://www.khersongirls.com/index.htm in russian?

[jb]

Bruno,

I think William Shakespear wrote a play by the same name called "Much Ado About Nothing".  Scammers play such a small role in the overall scheme of things, all a man need do is keep his wits about him, and NEVER send money to anyone he doesn't know.

It's really very simple.

[Kevin]

Bruno; Felice (thomas) is referring to another site that owner has asked all agencies owner not to post about other agencies owners no matter how much of a scam agency they are.

Felice:
When you post something, please include all of the facts. The lady I had blacklisted then removed was running a taxi scam on my clients. Yes, $12 is much but when you do it to every client that you meet and each taxi ride it started to add up. The lady made a small fortune and was removed as soon as we became aware of it. A scam is a scam no matter how much. Also the reason everyone has been asking for proof to support you claim against oceanoflove.com site is because you are using other sites as proof without any first hand information. What you need to find is a client who is willing to post a complaint. This will give you more credit. When I posted the attacks on my site from getmarriednow owner I have first hand proof and clients letters to support it. Get a hold of some clients that will support your claim. You can' t just post something, then claim you want nothing to do with it. You are very good at researching the Internet for other sites to build up a case. But you need to start at the client level first. Otherwise it is called here-say.

[Kevin]

[user=184]Kvinna[/user]

Our policies are posted at http://www.khersongirls.com/policies.htm

[Kvinna]

[user=184]Kvinna[/user]

Our policies are posted at http://www.khersongirls.com/policies.htm

 

yes, but it is not in russian ... as a RW not knowing english I would want to register there... but at first I want to read your policies, how can I do this?

[Kevin]

[user=184]Kvinna[/user]

As a Russian lady you would be required to come into the office to register in person. We don't accept application on the Internet. When you register in the office you are given an application in Russian that is two pages long that includes our office polices.

We would also require you to bring in your passport so we can make a copy of it for our records. At the same time current photo's would be taken to be used on our site.

I do not believe that the ladies should be able to sign up though a web interface. Agencies that do allow it have know way of verifying that the ladies are real and not a someone with a stolen photograph.

Kevin

[Kvinna]

[user=184]Kvinna[/user]

As a Russian lady you would be required to come into the office to register in person. We don't accept application on the Internet. When you register in the office you are given an application in Russian that is two pages long that includes our office polices.

We would also require you to bring in your passport so we can make a copy of it for our records. At the same time current photo's would be taken to be used on our site.

I do not believe that the ladies should be able to sign up though a web interface. Agencies that do allow it have know way of verifying that the ladies are real and not a someone with a stolen photograph.

Kevin

 

OK and what do you require from men to verify them?

[Fiorella]

[user=184]Kvinna[/user]

As a Russian lady you would be required to come into the office to register in person. We don't accept application on the Internet. When you register in the office you are given an application in Russian that is two pages long that includes our office polices.

We would also require you to bring in your passport so we can make a copy of it for our records. At the same time current photo's would be taken to be used on our site.

I do not believe that the ladies should be able to sign up though a web interface. Agencies that do allow it have know way of verifying that the ladies are real and not a someone with a stolen photograph.

Kevin

 

OK and what do you require from men to verify them?
[/quote]
nothing as it seems to be

[Kevin]

As far as men. Typical when the pay via credit card we can verify that there name is valid. Other than that there isn't much we can do until they arrive.  Keeping in Mind that the Men are the ones who are supporting the agencies and the ladies are getting the service for Free.

What shouldn't surprise you is the Ladies don't seem to care. Since I've been open I haven't had a single case in which a lady ask a client for a copy of his passport. And I can't think of a single situation on the internet where a lady sent a men any money, gifts or paid to visit the Men with her own money. 

There are people who believe that the men should be required to provide passport and have a background investigation done when they join. But the question is who will pay for it and I don't think the ladies can and the ladies don't seem to care. When the client does arrive of course the lady has access to this information and if she is smart she would ask for it early in the relationship.

I'm sorry to be so blunt about it.  But unless you can get other ladies to demand it. I don't think it is going to happen.

Kevin

[jb]

LMFAO...

Years ago my wife, then g/f, waited until I was in the shower, sneaked a peek at my passport and saw all the entry and exit stamps on the Visa pages.  She later held my feet extremely close to the fire about what was I doing in England, France, Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, and Chile.