Wife split!

[Doll]

I do not understand the mentality of thinking they deserve more.

 
More what? More than what?

[Diplomacy]

Doll:

I just do not why they would want more than just that.  A man who loves her and her children.  This was a setup IMO from the start. She knew what her life was and still married him.  I am trying to understand why go do this.

The second they were married she moves out of bedroom.

Wants something strings him along with sex

After interview she ups and leaves shortly after

It just does not smell like Wayne was anything but set up.

Why would she want to have gifts they can not afford and risk the family?

[Doll]

Why? Knew one woman who came to Canada to be with her husband. Much older, well off. She left him for a younger man. She was in her late 20s, early 30s with a kid. She simply waited to make sure she had somewhere else to go before she left.

If there is another man then it makes sense but mostly you can count on yourself only. Men are not reliable what comes to an uncertain status and taking care of the kid. It IS close to a suicide, guys. To stay in a family with a husband is preferable.

[Doll]

I mean I saw a lot of the Pensioner Babushka looking for glass

Translate, please

[Misha]

I would never underestimate the capabilities of a woman trying to provide a better life for her or her child.

Keep in mind as well that women don't become saints just because they have children. A woman is self-centered and egocentric will invariably show the same characteristics after the birth of her child. Some women may change, but I would say it is a small minority.

[Misha]

If there is another man then it makes sense

Well, a woman is not going to announce it to her husband is she. What is she going to say: "honey, have a nice day at work. Don't wait up for me, I will be busy looking for another man."

[Doll]

Well, a woman is not going to announce it to her husband is she. What is she going to say: "honey, have a nice day at work. Don't wait up for me, I will be busy looking for another man."

What are talking of? You lost me here 

[Doll]

Well, a woman is not going to announce it to her husband is she. What is she going to say: "honey, have a nice day at work. Don't wait up for me, I will be busy looking for another man."

A woman with a kid who leaves her country for marriage , who knows how long it is going to take to get the stability here can NOT count on MAYBE finding another man to deal with her problems.

[Misha]

A woman with a kid who leaves her country for marriage , who knows how long it is going to take to get the stability here can NOT count on MAYBE finding another man to deal with her problems.

Why not? The woman find a decent "лох" and uses him to get a GC and then trades him in for someone more to her liking.

[Diplomacy]

Misha:

Yes I think you are right, sad really.  Just straight up evil, Oh well.  I was hoping someone could explain it from the evil side for me.  Just self centered thinks the world owes her everything because she is beautiful.  Once the looks fade she realizes the world owed her nothing.

Oh, Doll.  I meant that the Pensioner Babushka no longer has anyone to help care for her.  She is trying to get enough money to eat by collecting glass bottles for money at the market.  Her pension is not enough to live on.  I would think such a thought must come across a younger woman's mind when she sees that. 

If a woman raises a child in the manner I described.  You probably get self centered children that leave her out to starve.  Just a theory.

[Doll]

Why not? The woman find a decent "лох" and uses him to get a GC and then trades him in for someone more to her liking.

Misha either you are so naive or you don't understand what it is- to be an immigrant with a kid. It is very scary, friend.
To trade "this" for "that" you need to be sure "that" will take care of everything- immigration process (more complicated than in marriage), of you and your kid.Many things to be considered - more than you think.
GC itself doesn't give you food.

[Doll]

I would think such a thought must come across a younger woman's mind when she sees that. 

Not any more- Russia is far away from this point (thanks to God!)
Guys come on! If you want to rescue somebody from starving just donate your dollar at Wallmart registers. I thought you were looking for WIVES.
Looking for glass! 

[Diplomacy]

Second verse same as the first Doll.

Just trying to get perspective.  I thought good mothers would never do something like this.  I was right, you are even having a hard time imagining a woman taking such a risk with her child.

I am glad you like it here Doll, but I use help with insight from your story.  I do not understand why you would be following a lawyer's advice if you talked about and resolved things? 

Why not explain the full story, and help someone like me ensure that things never got to that point?

There is a catalyst to someone making the move to America Doll.  You make it seem as though there is not great risk for a single mother in FSU. 

What are her chances at decent employment to support children?

What are her chances of a man caring for another man's child in FSU?

I would say both are better chances even for an immigrant in USA, if they were willing to work hard and dedicate themselves to mastering English. 

You attack, but do not answer.

[Doll]

I would think such a thought must come across a younger woman's mind when she sees that.  

To have this on your mind is probably the biggest mistake- you are not getting pets from the animal shelters, you are getting women who will very quickly understand who is who in this country.
How old is O? In her 30s? And Wayne? 60?

[Doll]

I do not understand why you would be following a lawyer's advice if you talked about and resolved things? 

I would if I didn't.

[Doll]

You make it seem as though there is not great risk for a single mother in FSU.

No.

What are her chances at decent employment to support children?

Depends

What are her chances of a man caring for another man's child in FSU?

Depends

[Doll]

You attack, but do not answer.

I do but for giving you a full story of what happened 5 years ago. I don't want to give a full story.It was mostly my fault and we worked it out.

[Diplomacy]

Who is who in this country Doll?  Could I get a breakdown of what we are viewed as from the FSU perspective?

What are the attributes that make a good who in you mind?

What are the attributes of a bad who?

What is there to figure out?  

[Maxx2]

 
Most GCG have children.. They justify what they do to their husbands because they want a better future for their children. The most dangerous GCG is one with a teenage son nearing recruitment age. Some of the older children help their mothers commit immigration fraud. A few that I know of helped inflict the scratches and bruises on their mother's faces and neck.  

Here is a letter from a Russian woman. Read it. It says it all.



I have the audio tape of a phone conversation of it as well.

Doll is too timid of the big bad world out there. Most GCGs though cautious to a degree will take the chance if an opportunity presents it's self.

Also if a husband does not do the AOS that requirement is waived by the USCIS if she claims he was using this to control her.



Maxx  

[Doll]

Who is who in this country Doll?

It is just a saying, another version is "what costs what"

[Doll]

What are the attributes that make a good who in you mind?

What are the attributes of a bad who?

Same as in any country what comes to a marriage- a husband does his best, a wife does hers.Nothing is taken for granted. Nobody rescued nobody.

[Diplomacy]

So where is she needing another who?

Someone that can provide more what cost what?

or is it the AM is getting wise to the manipulation?

[Doll]

So where is she needing another who?

Someone that can provide more what cost what?

or is it the AM is getting wise to the manipulation?

I don't know- I had made my choice before I came here.

[Diplomacy]

See that is what I mean if choice is made before most women like yourself get here.  What is there for a girl to figure out fast when she gets here?  The cost of money is Universal right?  Must be careful with money or someone has right to take it from you?

[Doll]

See that is what I mean if choice is made before most women like yourself get here.  What is there for a girl to figure out fast when she gets here?  The cost of money is Universal right?  Must be careful with money or someone has right to take it from you?

Spending money is often a problem in A-R families.Many wives (me too) are sure husbands have to provide them -buying whatever they want as there is no tomorrow. Then they settle down if they come to   the agreement. What agreement- it depends. There are many problems that occur the first year and they way people solve them is the way their marriage is and will be. Also sex, also kids (her kids and how they are treated by her husband). And many other things, D. We call it MERGE. Both need to merge.