Wife split!

[Faux Pas]

I would say there is no such thing as un-common sense. There is only common sense and that is something most but not all possess, which is what makes it common in the first place. For those who lack common sense, there are other definitions for them. IMO

[OlgaH]

Since when, Olga, self respect for wives means to leave the marriage with nothing?
It is the Russian philosophy of slaves.

Doll, you are selectively inattentive 

It doesn't mean that I can not understand a woman who really was a wife and put all her strength into building a family , whether a working woman or a housewife. I understand it by my own expirience, and such woman deserve her part. But I can not understand how some women can easily jump on a man's neck and after a few month and even years without their own contribution into family can clime that they deserve something just because they were officially wives. 

You can call my philosophy of self-respect as philosophy of slaves, so what is your life philosophy? 

[Jet]

There is only common sense and that is something most but not all possess, which is what makes it common in the first place. For those who lack common sense, there are other definitions for them. IMO

The point is, that common sense only applies to those that have a similar background and life experience. My common sense and my wife's can be vastly different at times 

[OlgaH]

well if Gator is correct that common sense is not common it would mean in fact that common sense is actually un-common which would mean that I got it backwards in the first place.. that could be entirely true..
 

Sculpto,

Since the Aristotle time the great minds try to formulate what common sense is 

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Common_sense

[Doll]

Doll, you are selectively inattentive  Wink

I don't think so because you told your story as well. I consider it a doubtful virtue for a wife (especially with kids) to leave marriage with nothing because " she has a pride and he is a bastard " This is a typical Russian attitude- hungry but proud.
And sure men of all nationalities will love it.
Right now there is a thread on a Russian forum just about same.
As for Wayne's wife's actions- computer is not a big deal and the only issue is a car which he could take but didn't for some reason.
Like I said- she didn't do anything that was a threat (yet) and the guys just wasted their anger making up thrilling stories. Now they are captured making "Brighton Beach" stories ( though they have no clue where she went!)

[Doll]

People are quick to look at my failed relationships--but what about her?  Wife never had a long standing relationship with any man she lived with. My relationship with her spans 4-1/2 years, but most of that we lived half way around the world from each other.  Now, her new "boy friend" must have crapped out!

I've never heard a single bad word  from my husband about his EX. The only thing he kept  saying was "apparently she was not happy"

[Doll]

I have to wonder what miserable marriages you put up with

Maxx, didn't get you- why do all we have miserable marriages? 
People are married and get along with each other , so why miserable?

[William3rd]

How do you know who has or doesn't have what? Why me or BC ? What is so honorable in Olga? Her "would be", "should be"?
 Since when, Olga, self respect for wives means to leave the marriage with nothing?
It is the Russian philosophy of slaves.

At least as far as YOU are concerned, she is right on the money. Each post that you make paints a chilling picture of what you are. Why you persist is beyond me. Revisionist history writers have always been difficult to stomach as have their adherents.

Since when are frauds allowed to leave with anything?

[OlgaH]

I don't think so because you told your story as well. I consider it a doubtful virtue for a wife (especially with kids) to leave marriage with nothing because " she has a pride and he is a bastard " This is a typical Russian attitude- hungry but proud.

Doll, and again are totally you inattentive 
First off all I did not tell story. I just wrote a small fact. Second, I have written nothing about bastards   

As for Wayne's wife's actions- computer is not a big deal and the only issue is a car which he could take but didn't for some reason.
Like I said- she didn't do anything that was a threat (yet) and the guys just wasted their anger making up thrilling stories. Now they are captured making "Brighton Beach" stories ( though they have no clue where she went!)

So, you position is, Wayne's wife has a right to take his property (as car and computer), more over in such sneaky way as she did, because she was his official wife for 5 months till her first GC  and has her own daughter who will be 18 next month.   

[Doll]

Don't think I am TOTALLY inattentive.
As for Wayne's wife- I am not sure, just said it is not a big deal for him to cry over or feel unsafe.
We don't know (none of us) what stands behind this story.
Though again- the law and me  think that the marital property belongs to both.
After all they are still married.

[felix8787]

the guys just wasted their anger making up thrilling stories.

Wait a minute here......now us guys are making up thrilling stories about Wayne and his wife? Geeze, you really need to go back to
Pg 1 and re-read what he posted.
Doll, your postion with Wayne is that he is at fault and that she did nothing wrong and that it is OK for her to do what she did all for the sake of a GC.

Now they are captured making "Brighton Beach" stories ( though they have no clue where she went!)

I don't know anything about "Brighton Beach" in NY and I also think that you don't know either.

[Doll]

Willy, honey, you got two or three warning regarding your personal attacks, will get one more.Behave.

[Doll]

Felix, we don't know whose fault it is.
Thrilling stories about jail and stuff.
I've read the thread.

[Doll]

Felix, it DOES look like the GCG behavior but it is not more than seeming.

[felix8787]

Felix, we don't know whose fault it is.

True, but it's a safe bet that she didn't enter the marriage in good faith and that was probably her intent.

[Doll]

True, but it's a safe bet that she didn't enter the marriage in good faith and that was probably her intent.

Yes, the chances are big.
Anyway so far there is no threat like jail or something.
Why Wayne   bought the car on his name only?  Probably he did it before they got married.
Just a question- in this case if he cancels the financing which is cancel the ownership, what happens to the car? The dealers need to chase O? How?

[felix8787]

Felix, it DOES look like the GCG behavior but it is not more than seeming.

Regardless if it does or doesn't, if it's seeming or not. Her behavior from the moment she said "I do" doesn't entitle her to act deceitful and unfaithful towards Wayne.

[felix8787]

Yes, the chances are big.
Anyway so far there is no threat like jail or something.
Why Wayne   bought the car on his name only?  Probably he did it before they got married.
Just a question- in this case if he cancels the financing which is cancel the ownership, what happens to the car? The dealers need to chase O? How?

Very big LOL. I think that Wayne got the car after she got here?
As far as the car is concerned, if he were to cancel the financing, depending on what financial instituation financed it, they of course would want the car back.
Wayne would have to tell them where he thinks the car is and they would contract a Repo man to get the car. But I don't think they would do that until the financial institute knew exactly where it is at.

[Doll]

If the car was bought after they got married then technically it is a marital property and they won't look for it till the divorce is final.

[Doll]

He also can't report the car stolen because she is his wife.
Has he filed for the divorce yet?

[ScottinCrimea]

Doll, I can't believe you have been in the US 7 years and don't understand the issues of auto financing and marital property.  Most likely he bought it before they married, which means that her only share in ownership is what portion of the car was paid off during the marriage less the decrease in value of the car, so basically nothing.  Even if they bought it after the marriage, it would have to be in his name only because she wouldn't have any credit history to qualify to buy it.  If she wants to just walk off with the car, she owes him his portion of what has been paid off so far and then she must assume all payments for the car.

He's in a hard place because if he discontinues payments on the car it will mess up his credit rating.  In essence she has stolen the car from him, taking something for which she did not pay and for which he is responsible.  If she were to have any accident in the car, he would be held responsible as owner of the car.

[OlgaH]

felix8787

You will never convince of ethic a person, who protect and justify by all means and holes in law a parasitic style of life. Usually such people don't know what ethic is and they will use other people for their own selfish ends having nothing on their conscience, they have own morality that serves them well to get what they want at the expense of other people. 

[Sculpto]

The point is, that common sense only applies to those that have a similar background and life experience. My common sense and my wife's can be vastly different at times 

bullseye.. all kidding aside that is the point I was trying to make with my little word play...

[felix8787]

felix8787

You will never convince of ethic a person, who protect and justify by all means and holes in law a parasitic style of life. Usually such people don't know what ethic is and they will use other people for their own selfish ends having nothing on their conscience, they have own morality that serves them well to get what they want at the expense of other people. 

OlgaH,
Believe me when I tell you that I know exactly what you are talking about.

[Sculpto]

Sculpto,

Since the Aristotle time the great minds try to formulate what common sense is 

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Common_sense

I hope you aren't accusing me of being a great mind!  I am in fact merely a little ant in a giant ant hill!  Though I do happen to agree with Mr. Emerson.