Differences in Ukraine women?

[farmerboy]

Can anyone tell me what are the -- general-- differences in Ukrainian women from those from eastern ukraine to those who live in the western part? Or from those that live in the north to those that live in the southern part? Or are there virtually no differences at all?

[2tallbill]

I think you most likely touched off a big long angry debate
(I hope not)

I think the biggest differences is language. As a rule 
there is more Ukrainian spoken in the West and more
Russian spoken in the East.

Just my two kopecks,

Bill

[neo]

A lot of the girls i met in the east were actually from Russian families and a lot of girls i know of from Crimea/Sevastapol were also Russian.

In terms of difference. they are all mad. you'd struggle to notice the difference.

On a more historical note, if you dig a little deeper thanks to the soviet love of redistributing labor you will find a lot of families arent actually from the places where they live so its such a melting pot its hard to actually create a general view based purely on a area.

[BC]

I couldn't tell the difference, even today.

[Mila]

Frankly speaking, there is no difference at all, except language. Big cities, eastern part of Ukraine, which is located very close to Russia and south of Ukraine speak Russian, but all the other parts of Ukraine esp. villages speak Ukrainian. But in general, more people in Ukraine speak Russian than Ukrainian, unfortunately, but true But actually, every girl is different from the other one, as we are all very different and it depends on familly origin and upbrining and many other factors. 

[Pike]

The women in Eastern Ukraine tend to want to sleep on the left side of the bed, whereas those in Western Ukraine prefer the right side of the bed.  Don't know why this exists.

Also, those in Eastern Ukraine seem to mostly keep the fork in their left hand and the knife in their right hand.  In Western Ukraine, they change the utensils to different hands.  Seems to be some cultural thing.

In the Crimea area, they are mostly ambidextrous and try to hog the entire center of the bed.

[ChrisBfla]

Yeah, (and this may upset some people) My wife is from the Kiev area of the country and speaks mostly in Russian.  She speaks Ukrainian but says this is the language of the village, not the sophisticated city.

Chris

[Mir]

One difference I have noticed is that almost all the women listed on the internet web sites looking for a western man are from Easter,Central and Southern area of Ukraine (and so they come from the families that consider Russian as their first language). There are hardly any women listed from the Western part (those who consider Ukrainian as their first language).
Certainly in the days of the Russian empire Ukrainian was destroyed as a language and therefore it only survived among the peasants of rural areas. That is why the Russian speakers would consider is as a language of the uneducated villagers. Its revival and survival owes a lot to writers like Ivan Franco (from a village in western Ukraine) and Tars Shevchenko (himself a peasent serf)

When I am dead, then bury me
In my beloved Ukraine,
My tomb upon a grave mound high
Amid the spreading plain,
So that the fields, the boundless steppes,
The Dnieper's plunging shore
My eyes could see, my ears could hear
The mighty river roar.

When from Ukraine the Dnieper bears
Into the deep blue sea
The blood of foes... then will I leave
These hills and fertile fields —
I'll leave them all and fly away
To the abode of God,
And then I'll pray... But till that day
I nothing know of God.

Oh bury me, then rise ye up
And break your heavy chains
And water with the tyrants' blood
The freedom you have gained.
And in the great new family,
The family of the free,
With softly spoken, kindly word
Remember also me.
(by Taras Shevchenko)

[Shadow]

Certainly in the days of the Russian empire Ukrainian was destroyed as a language and therefore it only survived among the peasants of rural areas. That is why the Russian speakers would consider is as a language of the uneducated villagers.

Not exactly true. Ukrainian languare is quite close to the accent of Russian villages, and that is why the 'city folk' find it sounds like villagers. Just like in Holland the accent of the eastern part is almost automatically linked to farmers, and I am pretty sure some states of the US have a native accent that will remind people of farm/village folks.

[Misha]

Not exactly true. Ukrainian languare is quite close to the accent of Russian villages, and that is why the 'city folk' find it sounds like villagers. Just like in Holland the accent of the eastern part is almost automatically linked to farmers, and I am pretty sure some states of the US have a native accent that will remind people of farm/village folks.

How can a language be close to an accent? I disagree. The Ukrainian language would be nothing like the Russian language of any Russian village. Why the remark? Quite simple: ethnic Russians whether in Estonia, or Latvia or Ukraine or the ethnic republics/regions of Russia settled mainly in cities during Soviet times. Cities were thus overwhelmed with Russian-speakers and the pressure to assimilate was strongest in cities. It is in villages that the dominated languages did best and consequently somebody in the city speaking the dominated language in Soviet (and to a degree post-Soviet) times was put down and considered as coming from a village. Of  course, being called a "villager" was not meant as a compliment 

[Mir]

Shadow

Obviously you know nothing about Ukraine and its history.
However there is plenty available if you want to learn. In a nutsell during the time of Czars it was forbidden to write anything in Ukrainian and the purpose was to destroy the language.
The comment that Ukrainian is just an accent of Russian used in the villages is hilarious and shows your complete ignorance of the subject.
Ukrainian is a Slavonic language on its own, it like the Russian was derived from Old church Slavonic and has obvious similarities with Russian (it shares a lot with Polish as well).
To say that Ukrainian is an accent of Russian is like saying that Spanish is an accent of French.

[Shadow]

Mir, could you please read my words again. I never said that Ukrainian was not a language or that it is an accent of Russian.

I know very well that Ukrainian is a separate language, as there are about 160 languages in the FSU area.
However ask any Russian about why they think Ukrainian sounds 'funny' and they will tell you it sounds like people from Russian villages.
That is not trying to denigrate Ukrainian as a language or Ukrainians as people.

There are many languages that due to their relation an origins sounds like an accent of another language, and the line between an accent and recognition as a language is sometimes very thin. Not in the case of Ukrainian, which despite the efforts in the past has managed to keep its indiviuality.

You pointed out that Russians consider the language as that of uneducated villagers.
My point was that this is actually untrue, but that the Ukrainian language in speech has a similarity to this accent, hence the 'battle' between the Russian an Ukrainian.

Let me give an example based on my own language. The Afrikaans as spoken in South Africa sounds to Dutch people as a medieval farmer who got lost about 100 years ago. Reason is that Afrikaans originated from the Dutch merchants who stayed in that area.
Does that mean I consider the South-Africans speaking this language as medieval farmers ? No, I am just making a comparison to how the language sounds in my ears.

[Mir]

Shadow

I apologize that I misunderstood your post. I am sure that is one of the reasons Russian speakers look down on Ukrainian but don't you agree there is a bit of elitism involved as well?

Have a nice Christmas (unless you plan to celebrate Orthodox Christmas)