Specific Ukrainian Woman

[Sculpto]

JR, get stuffed . You're a bloody broken record .

Sandro chill out.. when I get done feminizing JR he will have inverted parts. 

[JR]

JR, get stuffed

Sandro, Sandro, Sandro...can't you see thats what were all trying to do?

[Sculpto]

Sandro, Sandro, Sandro...can't you see thats what were all trying to do?

See its working already Sandro,  JR wants to get stuffed... if he wanted to do the stuffing it would be a different story.  Maybe you should go to West Hollywood instead of Moscow JR.. hehehehe

[JR]

See its working already Sandro,  JR wants to get stuffed... if he wanted to do the stuffing it would be a different story.  Maybe you should go to West Hollywood instead of Moscow JR.. hehehehe

My understanding is that "getting stuffed" is the same as "getting laid," hence it is gender nuetral.

Oh, BTW...I want Yana!!!!

[Sculpto]

My understanding is that "getting stuffed" is the same as "getting laid," hence it is gender nuetral.

Oh, BTW...I want Yana!!!!

it is if you are a girl, or gay. 

man, u is a skware.. hahaha

[JR]

I just remember that big guy in the bar in Crocodile Dundee telling Mic to "Get Stuffed."

[Sculpto]

I just remember that big guy in the bar in Crocodile Dundee telling Mic to "Get Stuffed."

HAHAHA.. gosh you really are that innocent..

remember that Zappa song I posted last week.. ram it, ram it, ram it up your ......

[JR]

HAHAHA.. gosh you really are that innocent..

remember that Zappa song I posted last week.. ram it, ram it, ram it up your ......

Innocent? Maybe, I don't really care. If my understand of "get stuffed" is wrong, it means little to me. If it refers to gay sex then I retract my statment about all of us trying to do that and amend it to only Sandro's desire to do so

[Sculpto]

aww JR I was just teasin ya

[mies]

IMO russians have way less prejudice against ukrainians than them about us, thanks to ukrainian government's efforts to ban and forsake everything russian. And what do you expect russians to think when they hear that ukraine wants to ban or has already banned the use of russian language in universities/schools/movies/tv/press?

what do you expect me, as a Ukrainian, to think and feel knowing that Ukrainian language is not used in the universities/schools/movies/tv/press in Russia?
There are many ukrainians living in Russia, - both in big cities and at far north-east - Siberia etc. Many of them speak ukrainian, do not want to speak russian, and would rather prefer having ukrainian as a second official language in Russia. Plus, Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities.  I think Russia should be more open to the idea of making Ukrainian its second official language. 

[OlgaH]

Plus, Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities.  I think Russia should be more open to the idea of making Ukrainian its second official language. 

At that time there was Kievan Rus  Later hetmans Bohdan Khmelnytsky and Ivan Sirko also did not hesitate to use the name Little Russia (Мала Русь) instead of Ukraine in their letters 

[JR]

aww JR I was just teasin ya

I know. I took it that way

Very little sent my way here is taken seriously by me. No one here knows me so they are disqualified from judging me. I take most everything I read with a light-hearted humor. Even Sandro telling me to "Get Stuffed" rolls off my back and gets a laugh. Nothing more than an Internet Tiger trying to roar across the distance. You have to laugh man, it's funny!

[Ranetka]

Can someone explain to me how exactly Ukrainian language was supressed in the USSR? As far as I am aware in sovien times all oficial documants were in two languages, there was Ukrainian schools, in Russian schools kids were tought Ukrainian as a foreigh language, you could get higher education in Ukrainian etc...
The same as it is now for example in Tatar republic or in Yacutiya (Sakha) etc...
How on earth could anyone not to learn Russian in school in times of common economy when you could make buses in Latvia, tyres for them in Ukraine, bend metal parts in Russia etc? And then send these bused to all 15 republics? Plus I do not remeber to how many autonomous regions of different ethnicities...Keep an army of translators? Or if the kid from Mari El decided to enter Moscow University he should pay for private lessons in Russian? If anything, Soviet Union supported languages of minorities...I even heard of GIPSY school!

[OlgaH]

Ranetka,

Honestly, I never heard about Gypsy schools during the Soviet time, but as I have noticed they don't have any problem with their language, they speak and sing as usual as they did before the Soviet time, during it and after. During the Soviet time some of my Russian relatives lived in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. Their children studied Uzbek and Kazakh language along with Russian, it was obligatory. Among our neighbors was an Ukranian family. I was 12 at that time. They had a pretty good library that they brought from Ukraine, and I remember the books in Ukraine. When we studied Taras Shevchenko and Lesya Ukrainka in school the neighbors thought me to recite some poems in Ukrainian.

Not long time ago Yury Gnatkevich, Rada deputy, said: "We must compel Ukrainians to respect the native language and speak Ukrainian". 

I don't think you need to compel Gypsies to respect and speak their language       

[SANDRO43]

JR, you seem nonplussed by the meaning of this mostly British expression, so I'll try to clarify for your benefit.

If my understand of "get stuffed" is wrong, it means little to me. If it refers to gay sex then I retract my statment about all of us trying to do that and amend it to only Sandro's desire to do so

Not that I'm aware of. Neither does it refer to taxidermy or cuisine, except possibly in a metaphorical sense.

Even Sandro telling me to "Get Stuffed" rolls off my back and gets a laugh.

Your choice, good for you.

I just remember that big guy in the bar in Crocodile Dundee telling Mic to "Get Stuffed."

This is where you came closer.

It simply means GET LOST, an expression used when one is exasperated, for instance in this specific case by the inane, monotonous repetition of catch phrases like I want X - or You must suffer - that are considered to be a form of wit .

Humour is obviously a personal taste, but in Italian we have a theatrical term for this poor trick - a tormentone, I think you'll get the drift - that is a stigma applied to low-class actors, comedians in particular.

I'll toss you another equivalent, though dated (1970s), expression from the same linguistic area: "Dress warmly and take a walk in the fog", that I'll be happy to explain if you don't understand .

[Daveman]

JR, you seem nonplussed by the meaning of this mostly British expression, so I'll try to clarify for your benefit.
Not that I'm aware of. Neither does it refer to taxidermy or cuisine, except possibly in a metaphorical sense.Your choice, good for you.This is where you came closer.

It simply means GET LOST, an expression used when one is exasperated, for instance in this specific case by the inane, monotonous repetition of catch phrases like I want X - or You must suffer - that are considered to be a form of wit .

Humour is obviously a personal taste, but in Italian we have a theatrical term for this poor trick - a tormentone, I think you'll get the drift - that is a stigma applied to low-class actors, comedians in particular.

I'll toss you another equivalent, though dated (1970s), expression from the same linguistic area: "Dress warmly and take a walk in the fog", that I'll be happy to explain if you don't understand .

I love the irony!

But Sandro, the Suffer thing was at least tormentuously topical!  :evil:  It did originally come from a Russian Woman! 

[SANDRO43]

But Sandro, the Suffer thing was at least tormentuously topical!  :evil:  It did originally come from a Russian Woman! 

OK, but repeating it ad nauseam is, IMO, simply childish .

[JR]

OK, but repeating it ad nauseam is, IMO, simply childish .

God forbid I ever lose my ability to be childish in certain forums...this being one of them. If no one else sees the "lower-class" humor in a bunch of old men chasing nubile, young foreign women all over the world, well then I have taken it upon myself to point it out. And yes, I will do so repetitively.

And Sandro, if you don't like it, "Take a long walk off a short pier."

[SANDRO43]

And Sandro, if you don't like it, "Take a long walk off a short pier."

OK JR, I'll take the hitherto unprecedented step of using the Ignore button. Ciao.

[Gator]

If no one else sees the "lower-class" humor in a bunch of old men chasing nubile, young foreign women all over the world, well then I have taken it upon myself to point it out. And yes, I will do so repetitively.

I assume you include yourself.

BTW, although Sandro is Italian, I feel that I would lose every debate with him about etymology or any other branch of the study of language and words.

Definitions of get stuffed on the Web:

Used to tell somebody to go away or leave one alone; an only slightly politer version of "fu_k you"
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/get_stuffed

Get stuffed is slang for go away.
vets.com/questionmanager/encyclopaedia/ency1/PA.HTM

[JR]

I assume you include yourself.

BTW, although Sandro is Italian, I feel that I would lose every debate with him about etymology or any other branch of the study of language and words.

I especially include myself. It is one of my checks and balances.

As far a losing a war of words with Sandro you are right. But actions speak louder than words and words are all Sandro has spewed forth thus fars. Four Thousand plus posts and not one trip....I leave in less than two weeks. I'll take my approach to his any day.

[JR]

OK JR, I'll take the hitherto unprecedented step of using the Ignore button. Ciao.

It's about time

[Gator]

Four Thousand plus posts and not one trip....I leave in less than two weeks. I'll take my approach to his any day.

Maybe he is waiting until he becomes fluent in Russian.  Maybe he is fastidious about his women.  Maybe he compares what he would have to give up and so far says none of the RW are worth it.  Maybe he is waiting for his favorite double dealers to retire.  Maybe he is waiting to win the Italian lotto.  Maybe none of the RW he writes enjoy espresso.  Maybe... 

If you ever pass through Milan, I suggest that you look him up.  My one evening with him helped me forget about a decision made earlier that day to call off an engagement with the one who I thought was perrrrrfect for me.

[JR]

Maybe he is waiting until he becomes fluent in Russian.  Maybe he is fastidious about his women.  Maybe he compares what he would have to give up and so far says none of the RW are worth it.  Maybe he is waiting for his favorite double dealers to retire.  Maybe he is waiting to win the Italian lotto.  Maybe none of the RW he writes enjoy espresso.  Maybe... 

If you ever pass through Milan, I suggest that you look him up.  My one evening with him helped me forget about a decision made earlier that day to call off an engagement with the one who I thought was perrrrrfect for me.

How does that song go? "It seems to me that maybe...pretty much always means no."

Here's just about everything I know about waiting, "When you wait, you wait alone." Life waits for no one, it passes you by as you stand and....well, wait.

So, I'm a little confused. Please elaborate upon you evening and did Sandro save you from the decision or the sadness of it?

[Gator]

Please elaborate upon you evening and did Sandro save you from the decision or the sadness of it?

He took me for a ride in his yellow sports car to an outdoor restaurant  deep in the countryside.  There he helped me order, and then proceeded to talk my ear off.  IIRC, the few hours covered only about three chapters of his life.  I had just spent two weeks with a RW who spoke little English (the underlying reason for our parting), so conversation in English was perfect. 

The decision to part was not sad as much as disappointing.  It was time to move on after I gave it my best shot for over a year and failed.  Some things are not meant to be.  I never went back to her although she was an incredible woman, a dream in so many ways - tall Cossack, Olympic sports, circus performer as a youth, successful former model in Europe for 15 years, singer, animated personality, and absolutely wild.