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Good thing we don't have to worry about propagandizing crazies with their crackpot theories anymore.

A New Russia Upon a Hill
12 January 2009                           By Igor Panarin
Dean of the International Relations Department
Russian Federation Foreign Ministry's Diplomatic Academy 

Email the Opinion Page Editor of The Moscow Times
 
The United States, which is at the epicenter of the global financial tsunami, will suffer the most damage in 2009. In a worst-case scenario that has a roughly 50 percent chance of coming true, the dollar and the entire U.S. economy will crash by November. As a result, the country's dire political and economic problems could lead to fierce competition between the states in which wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and threaten secession and civil war. This in turn could lead to disintegration of the country into six parts by the summer of 2010 as the leading foreign powers take their pieces of the fallen giant. Under this scenario, California and six western states would fall under Chinese influence; Alaska would go to Russia; Hawaii would go to Japan or China; 15 states in the Midwest and Great Plains would be under Canadian influence; Texas and eight other southern states would be under Mexican influence; and the eastern seaboard states might join the European Union.

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http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/1016/42/373478.htm
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Instead of dwelling on what could happen, evaluate why you are wherever you are.

As a long term expat (basically since I was 6 months old) I have enjoyed my life overseas and also visits back to the US.

I tried to settle in the US but for whatever reason it just didn't 'click'.

As far as this article goes, I guess everything is possible..

As it stands though, the states rely too much on federal funding anyway so don't know how such would be possible without a great deal of grief.  Would just create geographic areas of haves and have nots making the Berlin wall seem like a fly on the back of an elephant.

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WOW! A prediction with a 50% chance of coming true? Who'd have thunk? ::)

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It would truly suck if I had to go to California every time I wanted decent Chinese food.

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WOW! A prediction with a 50% chance of coming true? Who'd have thunk? ::)

Maybe Boise is too urban (and possibly too close to the Chinese Zone)?

I had enought trouble learning to get by in Russian, chinese would probably be too much.

Strategic thinking.....smaller house, more land, Hell's Canyon area, seed, livestock, shotgun shells, Campbell's soup, toilet tissue, 9mm and .40 for the handguns; .22, .270 and.30-06 for the long guns........
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Where do these fruit cake journalists come from. By that I mean everywhere, not just the FSU and US.

Quote from: Simoni on Today at 09:06:15 AM
But my understanding is that "Anything Goes" does not really mean "anything" if that "anything" violates the TOS.

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Alaska would go to Russia ... 15 states in the Midwest and Great Plains would be under Canadian influence

LOL! Is this what you call Russian wishful thinking? So, Canada shares a common border with Alaska, road networks, etc... and Alaska would go to Russia  :rolleyes2: Using the same "logic" of the author and applying it to Russia, I would say that the odds are much better that Russia will break up into a dozen or more independent states than Russia somehow getting Alaska  ;)

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LOL! Is this what you call Russian wishful thinking? So, Canada shares a common border with Alaska, road networks, etc... and Alaska would go to Russia  :rolleyes2: Using the same "logic" of the author and applying it to Russia, I would say that the odds are much better that Russia will break up into a dozen or more independent states than Russia somehow getting Alaska  ;)

Such a more realistic prediction may not be met with favor by the Kremlin. And you've heard about what they've been doing to journalist? :-X

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Such a more realistic prediction may not be met with favor by the Kremlin. And you've heard about what they've been doing to journalist? :-X

Well, given the recent political current in Russia, methinks I may have a problem getting a visa the next time I apply to go to Russia  ;)

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The fascinating thing is that the Russian Federation is having its very own "Boston Tea Party" in the Russian Far East. Rather than going away, the uproar created when Putin imposed tariffs on the import of used vehicles into Russia is getting better organized and increasing political. A new organization "Comradeship of Activist Citizens of Russia" was created that calls itself "Tiger" (based on an acronym that gives "TIGR" the Russian word for tiger).

Paul Goble discusses the issue in his blog. He writes:

"But nine demands – and all are listed at iskra-tigr.ru/ideologia/trebovaniya/ -- are political: the dismissal of the government, freedom speech, an end to limitations on protests, a reversal on limitations on jury trials and the definition of treason, a defense of the Constitution, a reduction in the size of the bureaucracy, the adoption of serious anti-corruption measures, the restoration of the “against all” provision on ballots, and the election of governors."

For Russia, these are pretty revolutionary ideas. They have a website (http://iskra-tigr.ru/) and a forum (http://the-right.org/forum/). Interestingly, the forum is on a ".org" web address. Presumably, they want to make it harder for the Russian authorities to shut it down or access the records of the site.


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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 12:35:31 PM »
I have read that article already two weeks ago, and it was presented as exactly what it is, a crackpot theory.

Regarding .org domains, they can be registered through the Russian domain organization, just like .com, .biz and .ru
Since the end of 2008 the .su domains have become affordable in price as well.
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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2009, 01:11:23 PM »
Where do these fruit cake journalists come from. By that I mean everywhere, not just the FSU and US.

Actually, he isn't a journalist, he's an academic training diplomats......

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« Last Edit: January 12, 2009, 01:14:39 PM by ECOCKS »
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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2009, 01:13:08 PM »
LOL! Is this what you call Russian wishful thinking? So, Canada shares a common border with Alaska, road networks, etc... and Alaska would go to Russia  :rolleyes2: Using the same "logic" of the author and applying it to Russia, I would say that the odds are much better that Russia will break up into a dozen or more independent states than Russia somehow getting Alaska  ;)

Nah, Abramovich is going to build that tunnel under the Bering Strait, remember?  I think the eastern side toll booth was going to be within sight of Palin's house........

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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2009, 01:30:46 PM »
Actually, he isn't a journalist, he's an academic training diplomats......

                               :cluebat:

Oh, Ok I feel better now. :whirling:
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But my understanding is that "Anything Goes" does not really mean "anything" if that "anything" violates the TOS.

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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2009, 01:39:00 PM »
I think Texas is already under Mexican influence. 

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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2009, 01:49:03 PM »
Where do these fruit cake journalists come from. By that I mean everywhere, not just the FSU and US.


Putin killed off all the real ones...

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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2009, 08:31:32 PM »
The press loves to blast the US.  It's a safe bet that there have been and will continue to be a myriad of predictions of massive US destruction and devastation.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2009, 08:34:00 PM by bobjonesxvii »

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Re: Hmmm, maybe going back to the states isn't such a great idea after all....
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2009, 09:43:49 PM »
Putin killed off all the real ones...

and you saw it with your own eyes. May be you as a professor of creative writing will write something about it  ;D

Suggest you to read  ;D

The Specter That Haunts the Death of Litvinenko
By EDWARD JAY EPSTEIN, Special to the Sun | March 19, 2008

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/specter-that-haunts-the-death-of-litvinenko/73212/

Who's Who At The Polonium Party

Boris Berezovsky held his 60th black-tie birthday party at Blenheim Palace, Winston Churchill's birthplace. In the center of the room was an ice sculpture representing St. Basil's Cathedral on Red Square, coated with black caviar. At one table was Alexander Litvinenko, Andrei Lugovoi, and Akhmed Zakayev. They all had been born in the former Soviet Union and they had all been in prison. Ten months later, they all had another connection: Polonium-210.

http://edjayepstein.blogspot.com/2007/07/polonium-party.html
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