FSU Women in the US

[solomon]

Hey Solomon,

Do a search on ICQ and you will find many Russian women living in the US. I don't see the fun in looking for a Russian woman if you don't get to go to Russia though.

15000 for two short trips sounds quite high to me. Aside from airfare and apartment costs (both of which can be very reasonable), the rest has just been regular dating expenses for me (going out to dinner etc.).

How much are your additional costs? What are you spending so much on?

Also, do all men's profiles have "Criminal Record" as one the profile topics? 

:hairraising:

Jooky, the 15 grand is an estimate of my total cost not including lost business since I started this process (i.e. not just the trips). If you remember from a previous post I was engaged and I paid for English lessons, translations, etc. Other costs have included purchasing profiles, a couple memberships, and so forth. Talking about lost business is almost too painful and that is additional. Eh.

 

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[TwoBitBandit]

...I have one on my site that is 29 & living in California & no kids.

Hi Rvrwind,

In which city in California does Irina live?

[dmajik]

I met my wife at a bar in the U.S.  Where we live there is a pretty large Russian community as there seems to be in just about every major U.S. city.  Depending on where you live it shouldn't be too hard to meet women from FSU.  My wife had been in the U.S. for about a year so she was already somewhat acclimated to the U.S. and spoke English well.

[Rvrwind]

Twobit wrote:

Hi Rvrwind,

In which city in California does Irina live?

She lives in LA. Her two major requirements are the guy has to be over 6' & must live in Southern California. She isn't interested in long distance relationships.

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[RacerX]

solomon ~ after reading this post for the first time: some really great thoughts here, but if you care, I'll add my own.

1. You realize of course, that at least one very sincere AM will tell you that the RW/A you might be considering here is NO GOOD.

2.  If she's been here more than 2-4 years, and met up with the wrong kind of men, she's not apt to be much of a "sister" to the wonderful ladies you can meet in the FSU.

3.  You are going to have limit yourself to either former or present "village" girls... sorry, but that's just a fact of life if you remain in Billings.

I agree the money you have expended that Journeyman quoted  are more realistic than the cheapskates who claim they did all of this on $5-10K.  I remember a discussion on the other board that it would take $50k+ to execute one of these international relationships, and I remember how many guys protested -well too damn bad - this life ain't for the weak of heart or pocketbook!

I often thought a nice match would be the grown-up daughters of RW who come here - sure they may act like AW, but odds are momma instilled some nice values in them.  Unfortunately, this is only for the youngest members of the board.

[solomon]

solomon ~ after reading this post for the first time: some really great thoughts here, but if you care, I'll add my own.

1. You realize of course, that at least one very sincere AM will tell you that the RW/A you might be considering here is NO GOOD.

3. You are going to have limit yourself to either former or present "village" girls... sorry, but that's just a fact of life if you remain in Billings.

Racer,

Thanks for the feedback. I am not sure what the significance is of your statement in #1 above. Are you simply making an observation about what AM's may say or are you saying that I might want to consider that very sincere AM? My mother can testify that I wouldnt care if an AM didnt like the RW/A.

When I was in Moscow this last trip, I made a point of avoiding women that were from Moscow. Even though I think Montana is god's country, the cultural shock is steep enough coming to the US let alone coming from a city of 12 million people to one of 100k.

[TwoBitBandit]

She lives in LA. Her two major requirements are the guy has to be over 6' & must live in Southern California. She isn't interested in long distance relationships.

Drat, I live in Northern California, and I'm three inches shy of six feet.  I speak pretty good Russian, too, but that doesn't make me any taller!

Oh well, I guess I will have to keep looking in the Rodinya of Russian girls!  

[jb]

1. You realize of course, that at least one very sincere AM will tell you that the RW/A you might be considering here is NO GOOD.

I think the point Racer was making is, and it's a very good one, if she's already here, and on the loose, there's an AM around that was her mule for the trip to the USA.  He will likely tell you she's NO DAMN GOOD, and he will have the scars and empty wallet to prove it.

Unless the circumstances were extraordinary, I'd say you should rule out young RW/UWs which are already here.  They are here as the result of a busted K-1 or some such similar train wreck.

[BC]

For the sake of discourse there are other ways FSU women can be in the US. Student, work, sponsored by other family member, visa overstays, undocumented etc. Not all are K1.

I would also wager that if the primary mode of entry was via a K1 which did not work out there may be a fair percentage where there may have been a 'good faith' effort with fault on either side of the WM/RW household or even both. I still believe truly riding the 'mule' may be relatively rare.

Knowing what I know now, I would try to find out a bit of background before seriously considering a relationship with a FSU woman already in the US or anywhere else outside the FSU.

Fact of the matter is, even if she is not a true GCG the new set of local values she has accrued during her stay in the US would likely knock most men hanging around here out of competition anyway. We're probably barking up an empty tree.

[jb]

For the sake of discourse there are other ways FSU women can be in the US. Student, work, sponsored by other family member, visa overstays, undocumented etc. Not all are K1.

Somewhat true...

There are lots of FSU girls here on student visas, however to find them is a tough trick.  For the most part they are ensconced in tight little cliques within the university  student body and it would be very hard to break into that scene, ie., to pry them free of the Russian male students who view them as private stock.  My eldest stepson played that game right up until he graduated last May.

Work visas are harder still, other than the entertainment industry on the low end, domestic help, nannies and such, the pickin' would be slim.  The other end of the spectum is the high end science and education aspect, this may also hard to crack, IMHO, unless you happen to work in very special places your not likely to meet such women and they aren't advertising themselves.  Edit:  I have some experience with the high end science researchers and post grad university teachers, none would be considered hotties, most are well into their 40's by the time they achieve international recognition and I doubt any man here would give them the time of day if they stumbled up on one in a bar.

Sponsored by family might be a possibility if you are willing to hang out in the Russian Orthodox churches to meet them.  Otherwise they prolly aren't so accessable.

Visa overstays, undocumented aliens, etc. would be poor choices to my way of thinking, probably too close to a possible criminal element, and in any case the hassle of getting them square with the BCIS might be more trouble that doing things the approved way, the "smiled upon way" in the first place.

As already noted, the busted K-1'er and divorcees would be my last resort as these gals would likely range from GCGs to outright damaged goods.  Finding a good one would be like hunting for diamonds in a bucket of crap.

Just my opinion, I've been wrong before.