Interview was yesterday

[Brianinaz]

The interview was yesterday. I got a call at 3am AZ time "we have a visa". Yeefrigginha. Will be buying tickets today. Thanks to all who helped along the way.

[groovlstk]

Congratulations, Brian!

Are you planning to fly out and return with your fiancee? Do you have an ETA?

In retrospect my wife and I were probably too aggressive - she gave notice at her job a month before her interview at the embassy, I bought tickets a week prior to her interview, and we flew home together a few days after she had her visa.

[Simoni]

Congrats, Brian. This is wonderful news!  When will she come?

Are you planning to fly out and return with your fiancee? Do you have an ETA?

In retrospect my wife and I were probably too aggressive - she gave notice at her job a month before her interview at the embassy, I bought tickets a week prior to her interview, and we flew home together a few days after she had her visa.

In our case, I flew to Kiev to meet her and we then took the next flight the next morning back to JFK.   I just wanted to be with her the first time she touched down in the USA.

[Brianinaz]

Congratulations, Brian!

Are you planning to fly out and return with your fiancee? Do you have an ETA?

In retrospect my wife and I were probably too aggressive - she gave notice at her job a month before her interview at the embassy, I bought tickets a week prior to her interview, and we flew home together a few days after she had her visa.

The first week in March I'm going to head over for a week and bring her back with me.

I resisted the temptation to buy tickets earlier. I wanted to but held off. She has a really good job so we were'nt going to give notice until we had visa in hand. Origionally I was going to fly over for the interview but I couldn't stay for the 2 weeks after she needs to give notice at work and I didn't want to wait another 2 months until I could get away from work again. So, she went by herself and everything went fine.

[Brianinaz]

In our case, I flew to Kiev to meet her and we then took the next flight the next morning back to JFK.   I just wanted to be with her the first time she touched down in the USA.

Oh yea, I agree completely. That would be an intimidating trip for someone who hasn't traveled a lot. I remember my first trip to Eastern Europe. I was a little intimidated and I had a lot of miles under my belt. I definetely want to be there when she goes through customs and passport control.

I would have done the turn right around thing but if you dont do the over Sat night thing the fares go way up so I'll camp out for the week and help get everything packed and shipped

[GoodOlBoy]

The first week in March I'm going to head over for a week and bring her back with me.

I resisted the temptation to buy tickets earlier. I wanted to but held off. She has a really good job so we were'nt going to give notice until we had visa in hand. Origionally I was going to fly over for the interview but I couldn't stay for the 2 weeks after she needs to give notice at work and I didn't want to wait another 2 months until I could get away from work again. So, she went by herself and everything went fine.

Congratulations Brianinaz to you and your wife!!

I know you are very excited.

I met my wife in Atlanta (Hartsfield-Jackson Airport) and we both flew into Miami together. I also wanted to be there when she "stepped foot" on USA soil.

I have a question. I am NOT trying to start anything so everybody just CALM down.

Is there any particular reason your wife gave 2 weeks notice?

After my wife got her fiancee visa from Moscow (DHL), she happily walked into work and quit the same day.  

She demanded and received all of the salary due to her. Of course being the "chief accountant" she knew where all the "bodies" were buried.  :evil:

Best wishes for you in the future.


GOB

[SMS60]

Congratulations Brianinaz to you and your wife!!

I know you are very excited.

I met my wife in Atlanta (Hartsfield-Jackson Airport) and we both flew into Miami together. I also wanted to be there when she "stepped foot" on USA soil.

I have a question. I am NOT trying to start anything so everybody just CALM down.

Is there any particular reason your wife gave 2 weeks notice?

After my wife got her fiancee visa from Moscow (DHL), she happily walked into work and quit the same day.  

She demanded and received all of the salary due to her. Of course being the "chief accountant" she knew where all the "bodies" were buried.  :evil:

Best wishes for you in the future.


GOB

Hey GOB

I brought this subject up a couple of months ago, actually started a thread about it.

I really didn't get a clear answer about the work ethics in Russia. I'm still curious about it. I think different women take different approaches to it.

[Brianinaz]

Is there any particular reason your wife gave 2 weeks notice?

I asked her how much notice she needed to give and she said 2 weeks. I left it at that.

She's a lawyer and runs the legal department in a pretty good size company. I don't know that they will replace her in 2 weeks but that seems like a reasonable amount of time get pending cases/business to a point where they can be finalized or handed off to someone else in the department.

I think it's probably a good idea not to burn bridges unless there is a reason to.

Thanks for the well wishes. It's good to end one chapter and start another.

[Blues Fairy]

Is there any particular reason your wife gave 2 weeks notice?

It's required by law.  Why break it just because she's leaving the country?

[GoodOlBoy]

It's required by law.  Why break it just because she's leaving the country?

BF, really?

Interesting.....I'll have to ask my wife tonight when she gets home.

It will be one of our "dinner table" discussions !

Is this a "new" law?


GOB

[SANDRO43]

Is this a "new" law?

GOB, I don't know about the FSU, but it's standard practice in Europe for both employers and employees to give each other advance notice of dismissals/resignations, time periods varying with local labour legislation and aimed at allowing the 'damaged' party to look for alternatives.

[Blues Fairy]

BF, really?
Is this a "new" law?

It's in the Work Code that has been in place for years.  However, an employee may leave on a shorter notice upon mutual agreement with her employer.  I guess that was the case with your wife.

[GoodOlBoy]

GOB, I don't know about the FSU, but it's standard practice in Europe for both employers and employees to give each other advance notice of dismissals/resignations, time periods varying with local labour legislation and aimed at allowing the 'damaged' party to look for alternatives.

Wow Sandro43.

I do learn something new everyday.

Advance notice of dismissal?

Geeez....here in the GoodOl' USA they terminate you on the spot, no notice.

I think your way is a little more "civilized".


GOB

[Daveman]

Congratulations Brian in AZ. Best wishes for a safe journey and a lifetime of happiness! Let the prework celebration begin! 


Sandro: Does that advance notice of dismissal policy include those who have committed an action against the company, for example theft/distribution of intellectual property, theft of service or items, etc. Is it all encompassing? or are there stipulations to get a dishonest employee out the door quickly?

[OlgaH]

Congratulations Brianinaz.

It's in the Work Code that has been in place for years.  However, an employee may leave on a shorter notice upon mutual agreement with her employer.  I guess that was the case with your wife.

It is absolutely correct about two weeks' notice.

According to the article 80 of the RF Labor Code an employee has a right to terminate an employment contract on his own initiative, but he must give his employer a two weeks' notice in written form (an application for voluntary termination of his employment contract)

According to the article 78  of the RF Labor Code an employment contract can be terminated at any time under agreement between the sides of the employment contract.    

[SANDRO43]

Sandro: Does that advance notice of dismissal policy include those who have committed an action against the company, for example theft/distribution of intellectual property, theft of service or items, etc. Is it all encompassing? or are there stipulations to get a dishonest employee out the door quickly?

Dave, I'd have to look that up in our legislation, I was never caught red-handed .

I believe if criminal charges have been preferred, they can be grounds for instant dismissal. I'm hazier about civil actions, and I know that an employee who was fired -  in his opinion - unjustly can bring his case before a special judicial court (Tribunale del Lavoro), have his dismissal adjudged and possiblly quashed by court order, this implying a mandatory reinstatement to his former position. Often such cases are settled out of court later, the employer offering some substantial bonus to the employee he wants to get rid of .

I think your way is a little more "civilized".

I agree .

[GoodOlBoy]

I know that an employee who was fired -  in his opinion - unjustly can bring his case before a special judicial court (Tribunale del Lavoro), have his dismissal adjudged and possiblly quashed by court order, this implying a mandatory reinstatement to his former position. Often such cases are settled out of court later, the employer offering some substantial bonus to the employee he wants to get rid of .
I agree .

Man this "Socialism" stuff doesn't sound so bad to a GoodOlBoy like me. 

Since our government has decided to buy up all of the major US Banks and Car Companies and tell CEO's how much money they can make, maybe we should get rid of those "pesky" right to work states also?  :evil:


GOB

[SANDRO43]

Man this "Socialism" stuff doesn't sound so bad to a GoodOlBoy like me. 

Rick, new philosophical/social systems do not arise out of the blue for no reason at all, Socialism was a reaction to the blatant injustices that the Industrial Revolution was increasingly producing on its work force.

One day, if you feel bold enough and your blood pressure is at reassuring levels , you should read the Manifesto of the Communist Party written in 1848 by Engels and Marx. Although their analysis of class struggle is mostly outdated and their prognosis of the eventual victory of the oppressed did not really happen, I found their views on historical development rather convincing, i.e. a lean/hungry people often overthrowing their fat/lazy neighbours, only to become fat/lazy themselves after adjusting to their newly found riches. Food for thought, anyway .

[dispozo]

Congratulations Brianinaz!!!!

Have a safe trip and best wishes for the two of you!!!!!

[ScottinCrimea]

I offer my congratulations and my sympathies for the joys you are about to experience and the frustrations you are destined to endure.  Rest assured that if it is anything like my own experience, the joys far outweigh the frustrations.

It's great that you can accompany her back to the US.  For various reasons I wasn't able to do that, but she navigated JFK just fine and was able to find a taxi to take her to our new home where I was waiting for her. (Just kidding, I was anxiously waiting at out local airport for her and damned if she wasn't the last person off the plane!)

[Brianinaz]

Dispozo

You asked in a previous thread about a timeline issue. Mine mirrors yours except I started about 2 1/2 weeks before you. I haven't had time to speak with her in detail yet but when I do I'll let you know of any interesting particulars. I do know they asked how we met.

Thanks again to all for the well wishes.

[kievstar]

GOB,

In Western Europe 3 months notice is needed in many countries for finance / accounting.  Legal requirement. But when I fire someone for poor performance we sometimes have to pay more than a year severance for a low level employee.  So we make their life miserbale so they will quit (in a legal way).

[Diplomacy]

Best of luck to the both of you.  Keep us posted, as the story is really just beginning.