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Offline TheOldMan

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Driving in Russia
« on: February 18, 2009, 10:42:19 AM »
Yesterday we bought some tickets to go to Russia this summer.  We are seriously thinking of buying a Ural with a sidecar to drive back and forth from Tver to the village.  Usually, my brother in law drives us around but he has a new job in Moscow and won't be able to do that this time.  Why a Ural instead of a car?  There's a shed at my in-laws where we could store it.

Anyway, I've heard of other people driving in Russia.  Do you just get an international translation of your US license or are there more steps involved?  What about insurance?  I was thinking maybe I can get it insured through my USAA policy but I don't know.

Also, my wife has just a car license in Russia but has a car and motorcycle license in the US.  She wouldn't be able to drive with a translation, right?

Any help appreciated....

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Re: Driving in Russia
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 11:00:23 AM »
Yesterday we bought some tickets to go to Russia this summer.  We are seriously thinking of buying a Ural with a sidecar to drive back and forth from Tver to the village.  Usually, my brother in law drives us around but he has a new job in Moscow and won't be able to do that this time.  Why a Ural instead of a car?  There's a shed at my in-laws where we could store it.

Anyway, I've heard of other people driving in Russia.  Do you just get an international translation of your US license or are there more steps involved?  What about insurance?  I was thinking maybe I can get it insured through my USAA policy but I don't know.

Also, my wife has just a car license in Russia but has a car and motorcycle license in the US.  She wouldn't be able to drive with a translation, right?

Any help appreciated....

Hello TheOldMan.

I started driving overseas about 7 years ago. When I went to Russia I had my International Driving Permit (IDP).

To get your IDP, you need to contact your local AAA office. They will tell you what to bring.

Here is a link:

http://www.aaa-calif.com/travel/idp.aspx

Just off of the top of my head you will need a valid US driving license and a couple of passport photo's.

On the 3rd or 4th page there is a whole list of countries that it is valid in (there must be 150 at least).

I drove around OMSK in my Father-in-laws car. No problems.

The IDP is only good for one year (yearly renewal).

I am also a USAA Insurance member.

Sadly, back in 2004-2005 USAA would not cover me in Russia. I don't know about today though.

Good Luck.


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« Last Edit: February 18, 2009, 11:26:00 AM by GoodOlBoy »
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Re: Driving in Russia
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 02:52:06 PM »
Cool!  Thanks for the info.  I was hoping it wouldn't be too much of a headache.

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Re: Driving in Russia
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 12:44:18 AM »
FWIW, your American license is good for up to 6 months after entering Russia. This is from the American Embassy. Then you need an international license.

I'd be more concern driving the Ural than worrying about the license. Stay away from Moscow if your value your life  :P. Good luck

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Re: Driving in Russia
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 05:46:44 AM »
Hello Theoldman

Mount a camera on the front of the side car or on the passengers helmet.

With the traffic and wild driving it should make for some good Youtube footage.
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Re: Driving in Russia
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 07:22:18 PM »
Well, my hat is off to anyone for bravery to any Westerner driving in Russia or Ukraine.  :clapping: The only sane person who I know can get away with it is a good friend who lives in the UK and part time in the Baltic's. His business is cars and so he drives enough to get away with it.

Those who know me well would point out that I drive, but that is only at the insistence of my wife. Given her number of fenderbenders, she just wants to arrive somewhere without incident and the best way to accomplish that is with her husband at the wheel. Personally I feel much safer on public transportation in Russia because of issues surrounding how being "at fault" and fiscal responsibility are so commonly reached.

Please don't misunderstand the tone of this post, I don't want to be a killjoy. But I would be less than forthright if I withheld information so that you can make your own decision--and understand all sides of the issues better.  It's good to be informed and hopefully I can help do that for you. I'll try:


The quickest way to be at fault in a Russian accident is to be a Westerner, especially an American or Brit. Might as well get out the checkbook immediately after being t-boned by the guy who ran the red light because by the time the милиция are finished, the Westerner is going to pay for damages and perhaps even go to jail depending on how badly the other guy hit you.

There's even a Russian joke about it! 4 drivers are at an intersection. They crash and cause an international incident. The 4 drivers were as follows: a Russian, a Ukrainian, a Georgian and an Uzbek. Who was at fault: The American.

Thats funny sitting here on a forum.  But it's not so funny when the crash has happened, the blue lights are flashing and the officer has a big smile on his face cause he's about nail you to the wall because you didn't move quickly enough to avoid the drunk Russian driver who swerved into your lane and took away the right half of your rental car.  Being at fault, the rental car company isn't going to be happy either. The insurance laws are so one sided too that it's a big reason why so few Western car rental companies are in Russia. Likely, you just purchased a car. With one side missing.

It became law in January 2004 to have insurance on Russian roads but millions of drivers don't bother and the easiest way for the police to sort it out is find out which driver has insurance, then write him up as at fault. That saves them hours of work and lots of hassle.

And if the police don't show up, likely outside the big cities, you get on a cell phone and call for what the Russians call "support." Whoever shows up with the most friends as "support" beats the crap out of the driver who didn't have as many friends. Loser pays damages.

Bribes usually don't work well because of "influence." You could pay a bribe only to have an influential friend of the other driver call the district commander and soon there is a knock on your door as it turns out you were at fault after all. Oh, about that bribe, "what money? You didn't give me any money."


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