dating sites

[evoboy]

Hi anyone,

Im on two sites rbrides which seems to be full os scammers. anyone else had this trouble? im also in email2femail.com has anyone had any experiences of these two sites?

dave

[Faux Pas]

dave,
Welcome. You should not pay anymore money or join anymore sites until you have invested some time and reading much of the valuable information on this forum. Pay especially close attention to the 10 commandments.

[TwoBitBandit]

Welcome. You should not pay anymore money or join anymore sites until you have invested some time and reading much of the valuable information on this forum. Pay especially close attention to the 10 commandments.

That's some good simple advice.  First get educated, then start your quest.

Dave, these two sites just scream out "scam" to me.

Generally speaking, any agency that doesn't list a street address in Russia is a scam.  (There's exceptions, but this rule is generally true.)

There's a few "legit" sites that aggregate profiles from small local agencies (such as Elena's Models and Blue Sapphires).  There's a few like Firstdream run by agency owners that have a reason to be in contact with girls all over the FSU.  That being said, most web sites that show profiles of girls from all over the FSU are usually scams.

Most "honest" agencies serve a small local area and all the profiles are girls who have come in the office and joined in person.  Some example are Lifetime Parters in Tver, Kharkov Girls, Cindy Agency in Dniper, Amazing Loves in Sochi, anastasya.com in Volgograd, etc.

[Mishenka]

rbride and brides.ru are typical of scam sites in general. I opened my email one day to find that they had opened an account for me with a password and profile, without me ever going to the site.  I clicked the link and found I already had 27 emails, greeetings from women who were interested in my profile (I dont have a profile there) I went to view this so called profile only to find it was blank. No photo of course and nothing written, so clearly the 27 women writing me were all fake. This has become typical of scam web sites. They create hundreds of fake profiles to get others to join and spend money. Stay away from dating sites. If you have an interest in FSU women, spend some time in their country, learn their language, get to know their culture, meet them in person and date them. Like any other relationship,  it takes time, patience and a lot of hard work not to mention unconditional love.

Mishenka

[Kuna]

Stay away from dating sites. If you have an interest in FSU women, spend some time in their country, learn their language, get to know their culture, meet them in person and date them. Like any other relationship,  it takes time, patience and a lot of hard work not to mention unconditional love.

Mishenka

.. but how will MOST men find a woman to develop a relationship with IF none of us were to use Dating sites.

I think the key to success is much more complex that the above statement - and the many appropriate paths have already been documented in RWD many times before.  I just can't accept "Stay away from dating sites" as being good advice.

[Patrocle70]

Hello,

I connect often to this forum without posting but I would like to do it this time.

My humble experience: I tried several websites and for the first time an agency last year. To be honest the agency was a disappointment even though I have nothing to reproach them ( they were quite professional in the overall). I stick to a website as a consequence ( I met several nice and interesting Ladies over the years). About this website, it was quoted previously.

About the magic meeting in a bar or a train, it might be simply not me. By the way would somebody recommend me a nice bar where it is possible to enjoy a good beer in Kiev ?

Cheers !

[Vinnvinny]

About the magic meeting in a bar or a train, it might be simply not me. By the way would somebody recommend me a nice bar where it is possible to enjoy a good beer in Kiev ?

Cheers !

'Chateau Brewery' on Khreschatyk directly accross the street from Double Coffee. Good choice of beer.

[Patrocle70]

Thanks ! I will try

[evoboy]

Thanks all))

Well I paid $28.00 on email2femail.com for two months membership, and and have already made plans to meet a girl in St Petersburg next month, seems ok and just to be on the safe side im in contact with a few girls, dont want to keep all my eggs in one basket:))
As for the site, its not to bad I have the full addresses and phone numbers of alot of girls,

Will keep you informed as how my trip goes next month:))

Dave

[GoodOlBoy]

I think the key to success is much more complex that the above statement - and the many appropriate paths have already been documented in RWD many times before.  I just can't accept "Stay away from dating sites" as being good advice.

I can't accept it either Kuna.

I would have never met my beautiful wife if I had stayed away from all the dating sites. 

My opinion: Just follow the 10 Commandments and use some common sense.

I really think "knowledge" is the key here.

BTW...I think there should be an 11th Commandment (10 years or less age difference and NO schoolgirls!)  :evil:


GOB

[Kuna]

BTW...I think there should be an 11th Commandment (10 years or less age difference and NO schoolgirls!)  :evil:

I think the 10yr gap is debatable based on the man's age, man's usual dating practices at home and his willingness to look and feel like a God-damn fool when things collapse around him.

What I find distasteful are the grandpas chasing "young girls" - you just KNOW something is wrong there... 

As for schoolgirls - they are OK for school boys - as long as they both have a friend there to pass the notes across the classroom for them.

[GoodOlBoy]

I think the 10yr gap is debatable based on the man's age, man's usual dating practices at home and his willingness to look and feel like a God-damn fool when things collapse around him.

Well Kuna I had to use 10 years.

You see, when I first met my wife I was 48 and she was 37 1/2 (10.5 yrs. diff.)

I know at 10.5 you are supposed to round up to 11, BUT...I use GoodOlBoy math and decided to rounded down to 10! 

Seriously though, if there was any more than 10.5 years age difference between us, it would have never worked out this long. There are days (and nights) that I really feel my a$$ dragging just trying to keep up with her. 


GOB

[GoodOlBoy]

What I find distasteful are the grandpas chasing "young girls" - you just KNOW something is wrong there... 

Funny, but true story I need to tell you Kuna.

My wife has a friend in Omsk (late 30's). She had been e-mailing a man from America for some time now. Well, long story short, the guy came to visit her.

She was standing out at the airport (Omsk International ) with another girlfriend of hers waiting for this guy.

Well the plane rolls up and the girls are standing outside by the fence (where they bring the baggage for "processing").

Everybody is getting out of the plane and no boyfriend. Then the bus comes and unloads everybody and still no boyfriend. 

Then they see the crew and a couple of workers bringing this guy down the steps of the plane in a wheelchair!

If it wasn't so sad, it would be hilarious to see the look on this poor girls face. Needless to say, her girlfriend was also in shock. 

Apparently the guy was on "deaths door". She said he was wheezing and making all kinds of strange noises.  :evil:

They got this old bastard to his hotel in Omsk and she left him.


GOB

PS......And there are guys on this forum that say "BIG RED FLAG" if the girl doesn't want to meet you for the first time in her hometown? 

[Kuna]

Funny, but true story I need to tell you Kuna.

My wife has a friend in Omsk (late 30's). She had been e-mailing a man from America for some time now. Well, long story short, the guy came to visit her.

She was standing out at the airport (Omsk International ) with another girlfriend of hers waiting for this guy.

Well the plane rolls up and the girls are standing outside by the fence (where they bring the baggage for "processing").

Everybody is getting out of the plane and no boyfriend. Then the bus comes and unloads everybody and still no boyfriend. 

Then they see the crew and a couple of workers bringing this guy down the steps of the plane in a wheelchair!

If it wasn't so sad, it would be hilarious to see the look on this poor girls face. Needless to say, her girlfriend was also in shock. 

Apparently the guy was on "deaths door". She said he was wheezing and making all kinds of strange noises.  :evil:

They got this old bastard to his hotel in Omsk and she left him.


GOB

PS......And there are guys on this forum that say "BIG RED FLAG" if the girl doesn't want to meet you for the first time in her hometown? 

HAHAHA... sad, but really not unexpected considering some of "those" I've sen in UKR.

I don't think it's a red flag particularly if the girl doesn't want to meet in her hometown the first time - but it's definitely a red flag when it's like Sculpto's girl who NEVER wanted him to visit her hometown.  Of course we would all make up HUGE excuses to rationalise this - but only time will tell.

What would be a red flag for me is a girl wanting a flash international holiday for the first meeting.  I really wouldn't trust that!

[Patrocle70]

Hello,

I am back from Kiev. Nice stay as usual, difficult to improve my beginner's Russian as everybody wanted to talk to me in English... It was a long time that I didn't meet a professional dater, by this I mean the Lady that brings you straight away to a posh restaurant (while I just wanted for a first meeting a coffee or tea so that both of us can have an escape way easily if nothing sounds positive). The cherry on the top of the cake is when she asked me to pay for her taxi to bring her home and the amount is six times the normal fare. I paid...

"Chateau Brewery" is a nice place for a good beer, thanks for the advice. Just a bit noisy when there is a football match.

I never tried to rent a flat, I know that it is a recurrent question to the experienced ones but do anybody have heard about kievapartment.com ? I think about it now for next time as the hotel where I stayed so far is becoming a bit dirty.

About photos, always important to make sure to get a recent portrait. A friend of mine told me the story of a man who sent her pictures of him, he looked like a fit man in his thirties. When he arrived, he was more in his late fifties and he asked her straight for escort service. Because of this kind of man, she left the dating site... We are always scared about scammers but worries on the other side exist too.

Cheers !

[GoodOlBoy]

I don't think it's a red flag particularly if the girl doesn't want to meet in her hometown the first time

I hear you Kuna and I agree.

After I met my wife in Greece, she couldn't wait for me to come to Omsk and meet her family and friends.

She flew all the way to Moscow on her own dime, just to make sure I found my way to Siberia! 


GOB

[topofthekey]

About photos, always important to make sure to get a recent portrait. A friend of mine told me the story of a man who sent her pictures of him, he looked like a fit man in his thirties. When he arrived, he was more in his late fifties and he asked her straight for escort service. Because of this kind of man, she left the dating site... We are always scared about scammers but worries on the other side exist too.

When I read this the big issue that probably turned this woman away from agencies and dating sites was probably the escort service request more than one guy posting a very old picture. But sure you should have up to date pictures. There are going to be aholes that screw things up for the rest of us. When they show up and post their nonsense here all you can do is give em the Red Foreman kick in the ass.

[TwoBitBandit]

I am back from Kiev. Nice stay as usual, difficult to improve my beginner's Russian as everybody wanted to talk to me in English...

On my last trip to Russia, I was in a restaurant and the waitress brought me an English menu.  She apparently figured out that I was American, perhaps because I'd been speaking English in the same restaurant a few days ago.  We had a conversation that went something like this:

"девушка, на каком языке написано это меню?"
"на английском"
"не могу читать, не могли бы принести мне меню на русском?"

She stared at me for a second, confused by the situation.  But she brought me a Russian menu, and let me order in Russian.

The girl I was with thought it was pretty funny.

If you want to improve your language skills, you gotta be persistent.

[evoboy]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  very strange??  i was writting about a site i was trying and im getting all these messages and letters about having a beer in kiev??  meeting at a pub???  what has that to do with my topic????

I asked if anyone had tried email2femail.com ??  but its ok now, i found out for myself, they are a great site and im meeting a bird from there, so looks like i will be recomending it to myself:)))

thanks for all of your useless replies everyone:))

[groovlstk]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  very strange??  i was writting about a site i was trying and im getting all these messages and letters about having a beer in kiev??  meeting at a pub???  what has that to do with my topic????

I asked if anyone had tried email2femail.com ??  but its ok now, i found out for myself, they are a great site and im meeting a bird from there, so looks like i will be recomending it to myself:)))

thanks for all of your useless replies everyone:))

So you've never actually met any women from this agency, but already you're crowing about how great they are?

Good luck, but you'd be smart to remain skeptical about anyone or any party that looks to profit from introducing you to women.

[GoodOlBoy]

So you've never actually met any women from this agency, but already you're crowing about how great they are?

Good luck, but you'd be smart to remain skeptical about anyone or any party that looks to profit from introducing you to women.

Groovlstk, instead of "crowing", I think he may be "trolling" for this company (email2femail.com). 

His postings seem to run on a common "theme" (see below).  :evil:


GOB 


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Maybe you should try email2femail.com an english guy runs the site, and i have had great success with it and will travel to St petersburg next month to meet a girl, seems everone hereis moaning about the same old agencies day in day out!!!   try some new ones i did!!  worked for me!!
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No I havnt heard of them, but im trying to recommend email2femail.com  give them a try?  seems everyone is moaning about the same sites, but wont try any thing new:))) worked for me:))  will keep you informed

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 Re: dating sites
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Well I paid $28.00 on email2femail.com for two months membership, and and have already made plans to meet a girl in St Petersburg next month, seems ok and just to be on the safe side im in contact with a few girls, dont want to keep all my eggs in one basket:))
As for the site, its not to bad I have the full addresses and phone numbers of alot of girls,

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[Shadow]

For a site that does not even work (HTTP/1.1 New Session Failed) he sure is happy about it....
I wonder if it will exist after April 13 (the end date of the domain).

[topofthekey]

Reads like some shmuck self promoting. Put together an affliate website or at the very least use another existing database of women for a fee and put run by western men on it and try to sell it that way. You do list a contact number and email but no actual physical address. Plus instead of asking to be a commercial member and suggesting we try your site you try this BS. I see no reason for anyone to rush to use this website.

[Patrocle70]

@evoboy

I see that you are a "commercial member", I don't know what it means. I am not against dating sites as you see; even if after many years nothing very real came out from this. But I don't blame the sites I used rather to complain about myself. I don't know the site you mentioned but a little research on this well documented forum would show that it does not seem really real.

At the end, we should agree that a good site would bring us to share a cup of tea or beer with a Lady.... Just pouring money to a badly referenced site is unlikely to bring anything good.

Some people may have a different thought about it, it is important to respect them.

Cheers !

ps: recently I get spammed by silver-rain-cafe.com...

[Sculpto]

I don't think it's a red flag particularly if the girl doesn't want to meet in her hometown the first time - but it's definitely a red flag when it's like Sculpto's girl who NEVER wanted him to visit her hometown. 

Dont misquote me Kuna.  I never said she said "never".  The issue was during her Fathers illness.  Now that he has passed I am not only welcome but invited.