Grenade attack on main railways station in Kiev...

[docetae]

The day  my mother in law has to take the train...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090311/wl_afp/ukraineblastcrime

[Muddy]

wow
its getting worse
its not safe to travel there

[groovlstk]

wow
its getting worse
its not safe to travel there

I hope you don't honestly believe that.

[Muddy]

I am cancelling my tickets and will stay home in california sir

[Sculpto]

come on dude.. they just killed four cops in Oakland and three in Pittsburg you are worried about a grenade? 

[TwoBitBandit]

wow
its getting worse
its not safe to travel there

I am cancelling my tickets and will stay home in california sir

You gotta be kidding???

 

Don't worry, I'll chase your quota of Russian skirts for you!!!!

[Muddy]

come on dude.. they just killed four cops in Oakland and three in Pittsburg you are worried about a grenade? 

I heard A serial killer in Dnepropetrovsk has killed 15+ people

[Muddy]

Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (Viktor Sayenko, Alexander Hanzha and Igor Suprunyuck) - three 19-year-olds who murdered 21 people during a one-month period in 2007

[ECOCKS]

I wouldn't cancel the trip Muddy, just be forewarned. This attack was actually on a railway adminsitrators office NEAR the train station, not the train station itself.

[Ade]

Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (Viktor Sayenko, Alexander Hanzha and Igor Suprunyuck) - three 19-year-olds who murdered 21 people during a one-month period in 2007

And how many people have gone postal killing dozens in the US over the past 6 months? Get some perspective.

[docetae]

And how many people have gone postal killing dozens in the US over the past 6 months? Get some perspective.

I posted about this initially for one simple reason...My mother in law was in railways station when this happened...

[Ade]

I posted about this initially for one simple reason...My mother in law was in railways station when this happened...

Yes, I realize and I don't have a problem with that, however, this Muddy dude should try to put things in perspective. It's a bit of a standing joke in Europe that fearful American's cancel holidays abroad when they here of "trouble" over here in the barbaric lands of the heathens.

[johnichka]

Muddy,
If I am not mistaken, you had a lady going through the K1 Interview process back about the same time I did - last August/September, so I assume she came to you in America and this trip you are talking about is to return with her to her home for a holiday??

If she is with you, you certainly should feel much more comfortable........

[GoodOlBoy]

wow
its getting worse
its not safe to travel there

I am cancelling my tickets and will stay home in california sir

I heard A serial killer in Dnepropetrovsk has killed 15+ people

Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (Viktor Sayenko, Alexander Hanzha and Igor Suprunyuck) - three 19-year-olds who murdered 21 people during a one-month period in 2007

Fear mongering.  :evil:


GOB

[Muddy]

Guys I am just joking

Muddy,
If I am not mistaken, you had a lady going through the K1 Interview process back about the same time I did - last August/September, so I assume she came to you in America and this trip you are talking about is to return with her to her home for a holiday??

If she is with you, you certainly should feel much more comfortable........

No sir
Thank god we were not married
Bought her tickets and sent her back

[ECOCKS]

Ukraine is as safe as the states for the most part. Situational awareness and common sense go a LOOOONG way to keeping you out of trouble anywhere. Worry more about scammers and shakedowns.


Stay where there are people and avoid places where common sense tells you there is a question.  If somethign is too good to be true, it probably is.

[diverboy70]

Muddy:

If you are so scared of a single incident, you are doing the right desicion, you would never have been able to handle a UW anyway! If you get your tail between your ass for a single incident in Kiev, you have no idea about what you would have been given yourself into.

My advice is to stay with the safe concerns of the US, because you do not seem to know that other parts of the world might be different.

Sorry, I just get so fed of these people that buy the hype, and get scared when anybody say "poohh" my advice is to stay out!

[Mir]

NEW YORK - A gunman went on a rampage in a civic centre providing help to immigrants in Binghamton, New York, Friday, killing up to 13 people, in the second random mass shooting in the U.S. in less than a week.

There follows a list of some the worst mass shootings in the United States since the Columbine school massacre in 1999:

— Littleton, Colorado, April 1999. Two teenage boys shoot and kill 12 students and a teacher at Columbine High School before killing themselves.

— Atlanta, Georgia, July 1999. A stockmarket day trader goes on a day-long shooting rampage, killing 12 people including his wife and two children before taking his own life.

— Fort Worth, Texas, September 1999. A gunman opens fire at a prayer service, killing six people before committing suicide.

— Washington, October 2002. A series of sniper-style shootings, some carried out from the boot of a car, claims 10 lives, mostly in the Washington area. Many of the attacks were carried out with a semi-automatic assault rifle.

— Chicago, August 2003. A worker who was laid off shoots and kills six of his former co-workers with a semi-automatic pistol. The shooter had a lengthy arrest record, including for weapons offenses.

— Birchwood, Wisconsin, November 2004. A hunter opens fire with an SKS assault rifle, killing six other hunters and wounding two after an argument.

— Brookfield, Wisconsin, March 2005. A man fires 22 rounds during a church service, killing seven people.

— Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania, October 2006. A truck driver armed with two rifles, a semi-automatic handgun and 600 rounds of ammunition kills five schoolgirls execution-style in an Amish schoolhouse, and seriously wounds six others before shooting himself.

— Blacksburg, Virginia, April 2007. A student shoots 47 people at Virginia Tech, killing 32 before he commits suicide, in the deadliest mass shooting in the United States.

— Omaha, Nebraska, December 2007. Nine people are killed and five others injured after a 20-year-old shooter armed with a military-style assault rifle attacks shoppers in a mall.

— Carnation, Washington. December 2007. A woman and her boyfriend shoot dead six members of her family, including two children, ages three and six, on Christmas Eve, using large-caliber pistols.

— Chicago. February 2008. Six women are tied-up and shot at a suburban clothing store. Five of the women die. The gunman has not been found.

— DeKalb, Illinois. February 2008. A man opens fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing five students and wounding 16 before turning his weapon on himself.

— Alger, Washington. September 2008. A mentally ill man who had been released from jail a month earlier shoots eight people, killing six.

— Covina, California. December 2008. A man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opens fire at a family Christmas party at his ex-wife's home and then sets fire to the house. Nine people are killed in the home. The gunman later kills himself.

— Geneva County and Coffee County, Alabama. March 12 2009. In a shooting spree that tears through several towns, a 28-year-old out-of-work man kills 10 people, including his mother and a toddler.

— North Carolina. March 29, 2009. A heavily-armed gunman shoots dead eight people, many elderly and sick patients, in a North Carolina nursing home.

— Santa Clara, California, March 30, 2009. Six people are shot dead in an apparent murder-suicide at a home in an upscale Silicon Valley neighborhood.

— Binghamton, New York. April 3, 2009. Up to 13 people are killed as a gunman goes on a rampage at a civic center in the town of Binghamton.

© Copyright (c) AFP
 
 

My advice is to stay with the safe concerns of the US, because you do not seem to know that other parts of the world might be different.

 

[ECOCKS]

True, I feel far safer and considerably more secure in the US. Nice to be in control of my environment.    

Over here it's kind of a joke how people in Europe think they are secure and all.  :whirling:

[Sculpto]

want some fear mongering?  ok, here ya go...

100,000,000 people own guns in the USA.

So, lets have the crisis get a lot worse and see what happens.. lol

[groovlstk]

Guys I am just joking

For Pete's sake, guys. He was just kidding.

No sir
Thank god we were not married
Bought her tickets and sent her back

Muddy, if you'd care to share this experience I'm sure it would do new guys a world of good. (I would certainly understand if you prefer to keep it to yourself, BTW)