Caution1 Your FSUW is most likely infected with the H. Pylori Bacteria

[Ade]

So, so much for making a polite request for your source. Get your head out of your ass.

A little antsy these days aren't you...

[Wienerin]

A little antsy these days aren't you...

and I can understand it! It became an established fashion on discussion boards to snort at the opponent for links to Wiki and even results from "google", i.e. search engine. It makes me mad - because what do the opponents mean? That one has to take - for hundreds and thousands of subjects - an opinion (based on G-d knows what) of an anonymous opponent with no verifyable credentials? Or references to "my uncle, a very learned man"?

Or one should laborously type long passages from academic research - only to give the opponent an opportunity to scoff at this source/s too?

Or just get into slinging matches of unsupported opinions like "Yes, they have!" vs "No, they have not and you're insulting to the whole Russian female population!"

It'd frustrationg and stulting to any discussion in the utmost.

[ecr844]

What a *snip*ing idiot. "I hate to be the bearer....." You probably couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heel. That's what we say when the first stage of subtle doesn't work and we start to realize we are dealing with an imbecile.

I clearly and politely stated, "You have a citation for that? I only see 50% mentioned as a number for worldwide infection."

Did you complete fith grade?


So, so much for making a polite request for your source. Get your head out of your ass.

"Ecocks,"

  Apparently you have the IQ equivalent of a down syndrome kid. You also suffer from and apparently produce ATP at a rate equivalent to that found in the CNS of a mouse. FYI, I did complete the fifth grade and I can even spell fifth unlike yourself. But that's alright. You still haven't figured out how to read apparently, and you also need serious work on your reading comprehension. The more you post the more you draw attention to the fact that you really are 'special'. You should stop wasting our time with your dolt like drivel, and none of us need to do your research for you.

   You asked for help and it has been provided as well as an accompanying explanation of where to find it, how and what to look for. But, since you're intellectually nonsensical. I'll spell some basic premises out for you. The book is the source. Just in case you haven't figured these out yet either; here are some definitions for you.

source
   /sɔrs, soʊrs/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sawrs, sohrs] Show IPA noun, verb, sourced, sourcing.
–noun
1.    any thing or place from which something comes, arises, or is obtained; origin: Which foods are sources of calcium?
2.    the beginning or place of origin of a stream or river.
3.    a book, statement, person, etc., supplying information.
4.    the person or business making interest or dividend payments.
5.    a manufacturer or supplier.
6.    Archaic. a natural spring or fountain.
–verb (used with object)
7.    to give or trace the source for: The research paper was not accurately sourced. The statement was sourced to the Secretary of State.
8.    to find or acquire a source, esp. a supplier, for: Some of the components are now sourced in Hong Kong.
–verb (used without object)
9.    to contract a manufacturer or supplier: Many large companies are now sourcing overseas.
10.    to seek information about or consider possible options, available personnel, or the like: a job recruiter who was merely sourcing.
Origin:
1300–50; ME sours (n.) < OF sors (masc.), sourse, source (fem.), n. use of ptp. of sourdre < L surgere to spring up or forth

Related forms:
sourceful, adjective
source⋅ful⋅ness, noun
sourceless, adjective

Synonyms:
1. supplier, originator. 3. authority, reference.
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Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2009.

ci⋅ta⋅tion
   /saɪˈteɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sahy-tey-shuhn] Show IPA
–noun
1.    Military. mention of a soldier or a unit in orders, usually for gallantry: Presidential citation.
2.    any award or commendation, as for outstanding service, hard work, or devotion to duty, esp. a formal letter or statement recounting a person's achievements.
3.    a summons, esp. to appear in court.
4.    a document containing such a summons.
5.    the act of citing or quoting a reference to an authority or a precedent.
6.    a passage cited; quotation.
7.    a quotation showing a particular word or phrase in context.
8.    mention or enumeration.
Origin:
1250–1300; ME citacio(u)n < LL citātiōn- (s. of citātiō), equiv. to L citāt(us) ptp. of citāre (see cite 1 ) + -iōn- -ion

Related forms:
ci⋅ta⋅tion⋅al, adjective

Synonyms:
7. excerpt, passage, extract, cite, quote.
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Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2009.

 :evil: Hmm.... Here are the results of a ten second Google search using appropriate key words turned up the following citing the text I pointed you towards.

PHYSIOLOGY 03028 WEEK 10: DIGESTIVE SYSTEM;

Cormack: Ch. 8; Guyton and Hall, Chs. 62-72, 74; Michael and Rovick, Unit 9; van Wysberghe and Cooley, Cases 19-21. 3/27/00 W. Crone (303 FTZ, 629-7439, cronewil@hvcc.edu, http://www.hvcc.edu/academ/faculty/crone/index.html

possible web sites: http://www.flint.umich.edu/departments/PT/ptp522/gianat/index.htm

(Power Point slides of GI physiology highlights)

http://www.kumc.edu/AMA-MSS/study/phys4.htm (more detailed study guide of GI physiology)

We will try to aim for something in between for our GI lectures!

If you need help with the big words feel free to post again and I'm sure someone will explain them to you. So while your still trying to figure out what H pylori is I'll go about my business treating patients and dealing with issues that are of far more importance than your prepubescent, pripiasm stroking, peri-oral diarrhea.





You've been owned...Message ends..Out Here

[Ade]

Okay, who wants to take a bet that ECocks now comes along and points out the your/you're mistakes?

Anyone?

[ecr844]

It's guaranteed...

[Ade]

It's guaranteed...

Actually, seems like it's not and it's a pity.

[ScottinCrimea]

If you misspell "priapism" for more than four hours, please consult your doctor...

[ecr844]

If you misspell "priapism" for more than four hours, please consult your doctor...

It seems that even ER docs hiding in Crimea have been known to exhibit signs and symptoms of humor.. How's life in the fast lane treating you?

[ScottinCrimea]

It seems that even ER docs hiding in Crimea have been known to exhibit signs and symptoms of humor.. How's life in the fast lane treating you?

All the lanes are fast lanes in Crimea.  Haven't you taken a taxi there? God, I miss the place!

[HiTech]

This was something I was going to have Alyona tested for when she came but it slipped my mind. She has been have stomach problems and went to a specialist. Yep she has this bacteria, and has now started on antibiotics for it.

Dale

[Ronnie]

Dale,
I'm glad you were concerned enough to have the tests done and I hope the antibiotics do the job.
I have only one regret in my initial posting of this thread that is the inclusion of the word "Caution" in the title.  That seems to have been misconstrued to mean, "don't go there"  I didn't mean that at all but merely to have our wives checked and treated if necessary.

[kbluck]

FWIW, my wife Natasha suffered from gastric discomfort for years. She was originally diagnosed with acid reflux, and treated (unsuccessfully) with antacids and Prilosec. After months of no improvement, her physician finally decided to give her the test for H. Pylori and sure enough, positive.

She had a problem with the "standard" triple antibiotic regimen due to a drug allergy, but after treatment with an alternative antibiotic regimen her problem disappeared and has not returned.

It was a fairly expensive test at the time and the causality was still somewhat controversial so the HMO was somewhat reluctant to go there. Nowadays it seems to be generally accepted that H. Pylori is indeed a very common cause of stomach acid symptoms, so I expect physicians will be quicker on the draw to test for it today. I don't think its worth worrying about H. Pylori if there are no symptoms, but anybody who has frequent heartburn or persistent unpleasant sensations in their throat should definitely get tested and treated if necessary. Life's too short to suffer needlessly.

--- Kevin

[Ronnie]

Thanks for posting you're story Kevin.  It's not just stomach discomfort. One of the leading causes of stomach cancer is H Pylori.

http://www.medicinenet.com/stomach_cancer/page2.htm#risks

[kbluck]

One of the leading causes of stomach cancer is H Pylori.

It is true that H. Pylori has been shown to be a primary risk factor for certain types of stomach cancer (the non-cardia type), but only a small number of people who are infected with H. Pylori will develop stomach cancer, and nearly all of those will have suffered from H. Pylori-induced ulceration and inflammation symptoms. Stomach inflammation seems to be the real risk factor, and it seems likely that H. Pylori is a risk factor only in that it is a leading cause of stomach inflammation.

However, whenever the subject is cancer, things are rarely clear-cut, and this is no exception. There is also evidence (controversial but nevertheless significant) that H. Pylori actually has a protective effect against certain other types of gastric cancers (cardia or esophageal) and the antibiotics used to treat H. Pylori have certain risks of their own, as my wife's allergic reaction demonstrates.

So, my point remains; if you're suffering symptoms, get diagnosed and treated. If there are no symptoms, the costs and risks inherent in diagnosis and treatment probably outweigh the risks of the infection.

--- Kevin