Writing verses Visiting

[CONCRETE RIVER]

Don't you have friends or know somebody who's married to an American women with both family values and good looks?       I find it hard to believe... 

oh absolutly!  but the chance of finding one thats single in my area are slim.  With so many casinos and NewOrleans next door- things are much different than if i lived...say in Atlanta or back in LA.

[UTRO]

^so wait, your saying this dosny mean anything that shes on both RWguide and Anestasia????

Relax CR. My wife was on a few Websites before she met me. Some were of her own doing and others that weren't of her own doing. Many Websites have affiliates and many of those have affiliates too. So her Profile can and will, get Posted on many different Websites without her asking.
Admittedly early in our Relationship it threw up a Red Flag for me. But we discussed it and she was 100% clear and honest with her reasoning. After all, I've had a Profile on more than one Dating Site at a time too I simply wanted more exposure.

[CONCRETE RIVER]

gotcha, thanks!

[Sculpto]

But aren't we still trying to learn if CR's correspondent is actually writing her letters or if he is being taken for a ride by a terp or cporrupt agency?

The AI connection is a bad sign IMHO.  But, we shouldn't jump to any conclusions until the lady returns to her town and either provides the phone number or refuses.  The refusal is a clear sign.

Keep us posted CR.  and if it turns out bad don't get bummer.. just words ona screen...

[UTRO]

But aren't we still trying to learn if CR's correspondent is actually writing her letters or if he is being taken for a ride by a terp or cporrupt agency?

The AI connection is a bad sign IMHO.  But, we shouldn't jump to any conclusions until the lady returns to her town and either provides the phone number or refuses.  The refusal is a clear sign.

Keep us posted CR.  and if it turns out bad don't get bummer.. just words ona screen...

My wife was on AI..... and her Profile still exists there I met her through Elena's and my Profile still exists there! The AI Admins are pretty slow at requests for dropping Profiles. I believe that AI is a waste of money. Many Letters are written without the Woman's consent.
I suppose I should have said to CR that Women having Profiles on more than one Website is quite normal. However, he should never discount anything that seems unusual. Only letters in which the Woman answers all of his questions and in turn asks him serious life questions back, should be taken seriously. When  a Woman is truly is interested in a Man she will want to know everything about him. I'm pretty sure that we have all gotten letters back from Women in which they haven't responded to a single question we asked  

[Sculpto]

Utro.. I agreee that a lady simply having a profile on AI or even some worse sites doesn't mean she isn't real or even serious.  She may be perfectly real and perfectly serious.  The problem is, until you get her off such sites and can communicate without third party interference, there is just no way to know what is what.

When I was corresponding with my train wreck girl from Kherson on HRB her letters were excellent, answered all my questions and asked plenty of her own.  Same in chat.  When I met her IRL she barely knew anything about me.  She knew I existed, she knew how I looked.. but the letters and chats were all "written in her name" by Svetlana, the hot blonde I posted the other day that "doesn't speak English".  Poor beautiful Yulia didn't even know exactly where I was from.  How was it even possible that after 3 months of daily correspondence?  SCAM!!  thats how.  BTW, I do want to mention that Valentin Belan and his merry band of scammer girls appear to be no longer listed on HRB site.  I don't know if that means he just has a new bunch of beetches, or, if HRB finally did something long overdue and positive...

I have also done extensive research, with the help of google translator, to search and find the russian interfaces for many of the big sites.  Honestly the propoganda used on the girls is no less hyperbolic and mythologic than what is used on us men.  A lonely girl would probably be very impressed with what she reads and could easily have her hopes manipulated.  Once she signs the TOS on any agency site she is basically giving up her rights to use her own image.  do you think the ladies take any more time to read TOS than we men do when we sign up for a site?  Hell no. 

Here is an example of how dating sites of all types take advantage, especially of the images of ladies.

On vkontakt I have a "never met in IRL" friend.  She is a nice girl.. just normal.. going about her life.  One day I was on some site somewhere that had a banner for fling.. you all know that one.. one of the casual sex sites.. anyway, I saw an image of a girl I knew I had in a friends list somewhere.. I wasn't sure if it was someone from an MOB site or social network or what.. but the picture was distinctive for the big brown eyes and low cut blouse  So, I started checking all my friends on FB and VK and other places... and there she was on vkontakt.. same picture.. on the fling banner it claimed she lived right here in SF.. but she is in reality in ekaterinaburg.. I sent her a note informing her that her image was being used that way.  She is VERY upset!  But, has absolutely no idea how, when or where they got her picture.  I suspect she signed up for some dating site somewhere and her pic got passed around... as far as I am concerned it is nothing more than a virtual gang bang. 

We are all focused on the MOB thing.. but I think most of the big dating sites are just as guilty.  If you are paying for introductions you are probably being scammed one way or another no matter what the venue.

so, anyway.. CR once again to be excessively redundant, just needs to see if his love interest will cough up the digits. 

more than .02 pesitos

[2tallbill]

More and more I have been reading a similar comment from FSU women and I wanted to see if anyone else has been hearing "reading" the same.

Here is a quote I recieved last night from someone in Belarus:
"Maybe you wil be surprised to read it but I will tell you that there are a lot of men in Internet who want only to write letters or just talk and they don't look for long relations.
So I think if a man is serious about his woman, he will come to her country to see how she lives. What do you think of it?"

I have to admit that I agree with her. Just wanted to kick it around awhile.

Most men ARE keyboard Romeos, you only need to convince them that you are not.
They want you to meet you in real life, just like you want to do the same.

[olgac]

Most men ARE keyboard Romeos, you only need to convince them that you are not.
They want you to meet you in real life, just like you want to do the same.

Back in 2002 an AM got in touch with me through a yahoo group I was part of.
He was asking if it's OK to just write RW who are in their 50s and send them some money if he is never planning to visit or marry anyone.
A little later his american wife (!) got in touch with me and she told me that he is unemployed and she is supporting him financially
and she found out he was writing to all these RW and sending them <her> money.

[ML]

Back in 2002 an AM got in touch with me through a yahoo group I was part of.
He was asking if it's OK to just write RW who are in their 50s and send them some money if he is never planning to visit or marry anyone.
A little later his american wife (!) got in touch with me and she told me that he is unemployed and she is supporting him financially
and she found out he was writing to all these RW and sending them <her> money.

He was just trying to create a circle of friends, and spread the wealth around.

Sounds like good intentions.

[2tallbill]

he was writing to all these RW and sending them <her> money.

There are plenty of nutjobs and wingnuts that think pursuing a woman from the FSU will
resolve their problems/failures and/or deficiencies.

I've have met quite a number of men at the plane/airports/watering holes that have numerous
problems and ideas that are destined to fail. I think about half the men I meet pursuing FSUW
are normal and half are not even close.

That's my two kopecks

[2tallbill]

Spread the wealth around.

I 100% believe that Krimster's idea of volunteering to help out babuska's in Ukraine
is genius.

I have always said, if you want to donate money or help out people/women is fine as
long as you keep romance out of it. Desperate women after all tend to act desperately.
As soon as they are not desperate, they return to norm.

Helping out Babushkas however is great because you aren't romancing them, but garners
love (at least in the short term) devushka admiration for those who help them out the baba's.
I doubt that this is a long term solution for success, but for short termers like the man Krim
suggested it to have little chances long term anyway.

[krimster2]

when yur in Ukraine
you don't wanna look like the typical geezer who's meeting his pay-per-letter correspondant for the first time
they all  dress and look the same, with the same befuddled expression on their face
they look like a fish "out of water"

instead of looking like a middle-aged geek, which everyone in Ukraine laughs at
you wanna look like a heroic man of action with noble purpose...
nobody in Ukraine, has ever seen one of those
it'll be a refreshing change
an ambassador of good will who will be welcomed and appreciated by all
this will make Ukrainian Women ovaries vibrate in harmonious resonnance
like two tuning forks

Ukrainian village girls are the creme de la creme
OMG!!
and here you are, a poor suffering volunteer, lonely and sad cuz of the war
and pulling down $20,000 per month from youtube royalties and on-line merchandise
whereever you maintain yur "base of operations"
you can expand yur "social circle"
get invited to meals and partys, etc
most of the women will be single, and they WILL ALL be giving you "the eye"
it would be IMPOSSIBLE for you NOT to have sex with these women

when yur not thinking about getting laid all the time
you can put that brain power into raising your U-TUBE revenue (or post more on RWD!)

if yur not good at sex, particularly oral sex, watch some porn (like ya haven't already! LOL!!))