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Offline Mark Davis

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Re: What is it about russian women
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2011, 07:05:07 AM »
What is it about Russian/Ukrainian women?


I wouldn't trade what I have with my wife Anna for anything.  After five years it is more exhilarating than ever.  We went to shoot pool last night at a local club and playfully sparred with each other - and she was the most attractive woman in the room (she usually is).  When people see us together the common comment is that we are such a natural fit with each other - we are comfortable together. 


She has more education than I do and certainly more culture and refinement.  She reminds me to stay connected with friends and family and we bring gifts when visiting a home for the first time.  She is disciplined and unafraid of work. 


I'm never bored because she sees daily life in ways I'd never considered.  There is always something creative and fresh to talk about.  Everyday we wake up with a sense of gratitude that we both found what we were looking for.


I would think that I just got lucky, but this description would also go to many other couples we know: Lawrence and Alyona, Steve and Natasha, Peter and Anya, Alex and Olga, Mike and Kira.


I never ask anyone to take my word for anything - there are plenty more voices.  I recently met a Ukrainian sailor at the Jim Beam Club bar in Odessa Ukraine and got his perspective on women from his own country compared to those he'd met in UK and other parts of Europe.  I'd be curious to get your thoughts on his comments in this YouTube video.
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Re: What is it about russian women
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2011, 08:40:30 AM »
I know it's widely used, but just dont wanna say 'everybody looks good after photoshop correction'. I had few photoshoots and have rather good pics, and photoshop so I must admit its possible to look good on pics without it ;)

I agree. I remember I opened one agency website (I think a link was posted here) and all the women looked like matryoshkas  :D with their pink cheeks and green-blue eye-shadow. The agency's "photoshopper" tried too hard to fix the photos.

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Re: What is it about russian women
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2011, 06:52:00 AM »
This thread will be almost identical to the one:  "Do I have the right idea about RW."

So I will put my same post here.

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You have a completely wrong idea about RW.  Although as others have written that you can find a variation  of women in every country, in general, RW will be MORE materialistic than western  women.  They will be MORE obsessed with designer clothes, etc.  And they certainly will use MORE make up and cosmetics.

And RW (much  more than your English gals) do think they are very special.  This is the other side of the agency hype coin.  i.e.  Beginning men read the agency hype and believe these women are special.  The RW are also reading this crap and come to believe that they are special.

And very importantly, romancing a RW will cost you much more than romancing an English gal.  Western gals are often willing to share expenses with the man on dates, trips, etc.  Not so with RW.  It is built into the culture that the man must pay for everything; even in situations where the RW might have just as much or more money than the man.

If you want to read some about the cost of trying to attain a young supposedly top notch RW then read Neo's story here: 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=13138.0

Now, what you want to try to do is find one of the minority of RW who is not materialistic, and not obsessed with designer clothes, cosmetics, etc.  You could also try to find such a woman in England.

The major difference in your search for such in FSU vs England is that you can generally trade up in the FSU.  Trade up in terms of general looks, slenderness, education, culture, etc.  This trade up possibility exists solely because of economic conditions.

Note:  This is not saying that RW are better looking, more educated or more cultured than English gals.  It just means you can trade up to higher levels in FSU.

The only true advantage the RW gals have is in the slender category.  But then you must consider how long this lasts when they move west.

But this trade up potential will cost you a lot in terms of money (for trips and no cost sharing), time and frustration.

And, even when you think you have found your ideal FSU woman, you will come face to face with some major cultural differences including their ideas about spending money; both yours and theirs. 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=13276.0

Is all the hassle and cost worth it.  Depends on how successful you are.
For me, the answer is yes because I have been able to spend quality time with several FSU women in their 40s who are 5 feet 6 to 5 feet 10 weighing 115 pounds or so (for the 5 feet 6 inch gals for example), who are physicians, dentists, professors, scientific researchers, middle management types, etc. and who are  not materialistic, obsessed with designer clothes, cosmetics, etc. 

But I have to do a ton of weeding to find these gems.  And still, most situations do not work out for the long run for the same reasons found in relationships in any country of the world.

I have to agree.  That was one of the most realistic posts I've read here.  Don't believe the hype.  It all boils down to simple economics.  We have more money than they do and thus more negotiating power.  The simplest explaination is usually the correct one.

There are good attractive women in America and Europe.  You just have to look for them and when you find them you won't have as much leverage.  And there is nothing wrong with that.  They know what they are worth.

People that travel always swear that the girls in such and such country are way better than the girls back home.  Russian girls might be skinner but you take a hit elsewhere.  It may be a trade off some are willing to make but its still a trade off.  I'm personally open to numerous possibilities.  You never know where you will find love.

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Re: What is it about russian women
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2011, 07:33:30 AM »
Well, let's check the First Ladies.



1st - The Spanish - from Mexico
2nd - The French - from Italy
3rd - The American - not imported

Grace Kelly from Monaco - a mail bride from the USA.


By the French first lady I assume you mean Carla Bruni.  Interesting choice.  Is this the same Carla Bruni with numerous nude pictures floating around the internet?  The same Carla Bruni that has been implicated in numerous affairs?  The same Carla Bruni who herself is the product of an affair and who's brother died of AIDS?  The same Carla Bruni who famously said she is, "bored with monogamy", and that "love lasts a long time, but burning desire – two to three weeks"?  Thanks but no thanks.  She probably makes a good choice for a third wife (if you use a condom) but not for a mother of my children.  I think Sarkozy is up to three by now.  By the way check google.  I think there are already rumors of affairs going on.

I think that kind of mindset is what gets guys in trouble.  If you go to the FSU chasing pretty pictures of young girls from Odessa you too might end up with a Carla Bruni.

If you want an Ivy league educated woman that earns six figures and makes a good mother and by the way marries you when you are a broke nobody you're going to have to do a little more work.

I can't comment on the Spanish first lady who is from Mexico.  Never heard of her.  Help us out with a name.

If you are an over the hill out of shape American living on a farm good luck going to the FSU to find your Grace Kelly princess of Monaco. 
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Re: What is it about russian women
« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2011, 05:36:52 PM »
The Spanish princess' name is Letizia.

I wouldn't expect Sarkozy's marriage to last long. He's got what most Western men looking for a Ukrainian girl want. He's 5'5" and she's 5'10". Letizia's husband is 6'5'.

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If you are an over the hill out of shape American living on a farm good luck going to the FSU to find your Grace Kelly princess of Monaco. 
If you look at photos from success stories, apparently it happens.

I don't think these success stories have progressed beyond the first meetings. Too good to be true.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 09:03:31 PM by Vincenzo »

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Re: What is it about russian women
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2011, 03:56:01 AM »
Quite simple that will also be your last date with her, if she does not get her way!!  But I guess that should also be fine with the man, if she is making him feel uncomfortable.
So be it Rubicon. Why would you want to continue with someone who makes you feel uncomfortable?
 
Some guys just have a hard time saying No.
Well they shouldn't. If you lose a woman's respect all the money in the world will never get it back. And once you lose that respect, you're done.
 
I have found that if you tell them no they'll have no problem with it if it makes sense. Woman are always trying to test you for whatever reason to see your reaction to any situation. Handling these situations confidently is key. Women want to hear no at times. You just can't give them everything they want, you know this. If you have one that cries about things all the time, do yourself a favor and kick her to the curb. There are just too many who won't cry and are every bit as beautiful.
 
When I first moved to Moscow I started dating a RW I meet at a club. Quite a looker and because I knew very few people here at the time I was happy to meet someone so quickly after my arrival.
 
I invited her to a nice, modestly priced Italian restaurant in town and we had a good time. During our date, while she was ordering, she asked if it was OK to order anything and I said "sure, whatever you want". Afterward I noticed a 750ru charge for something that didn't make sense to me and sure enough the waitress told it was for .3L worth of fresh pineapple juice that she ordered :o :-X . That's about $25 for 10oz for those metrically challenged. Not acting so surprise I paid for dinner and we went on our way.
 
About 2-3 weeks later we went back to the same restaurant and again ordered our food, but this time told her frankly that she could have anything she wanted except pineapple juice because I wasn't about to pay $25 for something that wasn't even close to being worth it. She ordered fresh orange juice for about $5 and nothing more was said about it. We continued to date to the point where she wanted to move in with me. Now this was just for $25 worth of juice.
 
I doubt it mattered much what it was I was buying for her to think negatively about me if she so choose. As Misha said, you're the one paying, you're the one who decides what is and isn't acceptable and if a woman doesn't understand this it you just have to move on, as difficult as it sometimes seems.

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Re: What is it about russian women
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      Re: What is it about russian women
      « Reply #57 on: May 15, 2011, 02:46:08 PM »
      So be it Rubicon. Why would you want to continue with someone who makes you feel uncomfortable?
       Well they shouldn't. If you lose a woman's respect all the money in the world will never get it back. And once you lose that respect, you're done.
       
      I have found that if you tell them no they'll have no problem with it if it makes sense. Woman are always trying to test you for whatever reason to see your reaction to any situation. Handling these situations confidently is key. Women want to hear no at times. You just can't give them everything they want, you know this. If you have one that cries about things all the time, do yourself a favor and kick her to the curb. There are just too many who won't cry and are every bit as beautiful.
       
      When I first moved to Moscow I started dating a RW I meet at a club. Quite a looker and because I knew very few people here at the time I was happy to meet someone so quickly after my arrival.
       
      I invited her to a nice, modestly priced Italian restaurant in town and we had a good time. During our date, while she was ordering, she asked if it was OK to order anything and I said "sure, whatever you want". Afterward I noticed a 750ru charge for something that didn't make sense to me and sure enough the waitress told it was for .3L worth of fresh pineapple juice that she ordered :o :-X . That's about $25 for 10oz for those metrically challenged. Not acting so surprise I paid for dinner and we went on our way.
       
      About 2-3 weeks later we went back to the same restaurant and again ordered our food, but this time told her frankly that she could have anything she wanted except pineapple juice because I wasn't about to pay $25 for something that wasn't even close to being worth it. She ordered fresh orange juice for about $5 and nothing more was said about it. We continued to date to the point where she wanted to move in with me. Now this was just for $25 worth of juice.
       
      I doubt it mattered much what it was I was buying for her to think negatively about me if she so choose. As Misha said, you're the one paying, you're the one who decides what is and isn't acceptable and if a woman doesn't understand this it you just have to move on, as difficult as it sometimes seems.

      Really great post Chivo!!

       

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