Hazy-
you seem to have a geniune willingness to really read the various responces, be appreciative of them ..
and you seem to have plenty of wits about you, and a good natured even temperment,
post very rational , and well thought out replies to menmbers her eeven when they tend to be rough on you.
.
it seems your heads screwed on pretty straight ,and you run your own business .
You then completely contradict what any rational person would do,
by even contemplating seeing a woman again ,
that you had a horrible time with -
the ONLY two other times in two years that you have seen her??
she is a stranger to you,
you wrote for a couple years now it seems? visited twice,
and there was :
no kissing, no hand holding, no petting, or any affection at all. She's private and doesn't really like to talk. When she does, its only about our trip, not about her feelings to me, her day, her life at work, nothing.
yet at some point in time you filed for a visa.. but eventually let it expire..??
if i came to you and gave you this scenerio about an austrlian or canadian woman i met twice , this was happening,
and what should i do?
what would you advise me?
(you seem sharp, and my guess is youd ask me *what the heck i'm possibly thinking?*
and to drop her)
RW are not from another universe.
as a generality they are very warm and affectionate to anyone they actually have interest in.typically fun loving ,
although often very single task oriented and focused to the task at hand ,
which can come across as stern or serious.
but just as imnportant-
RW come in all shapes, sizes, and personalities.
Some RW are weird or strange , or distant and cold,
(just like people of all countries can be)
forget the part that you traveled to see her..
(its not her fault you live half way around the world)
just answer to yourself the simple question -
would you continue to date an AW , after seeing her for two weeks, that acted like this woman ?
yes or no.
it really is that simple.
it has nothing to do with her motivations, good or bad.
it has nothing to do with wether she actually likes you or not
(she certainly does NOT love you)
all the speculation is pointless, if you simply would not date her if she was a local
woman behaving as she does. or a woman with this personality.
she doesnt really like to talk..
( that could be your cup of tea,but would get her dumped by most people on the very first date?)
she isnt even slightly affectionate in person.
youve had two completely mundane trips to see her.
to contemplate a third is crazy..lol
you may eventually break the cold around this ice princeses' heart,
but you may never do so.
and even with a herculian effort and you manage the task..
WHY would you want to?
what so special about her,
that you would focus any energy at all towards that??
When there are certianly woman that would:
be interested in speaking with you..
be openly affectionate and not require you to drag it out of them?
to me it seems you pressed a bit for 'i love you's' out of her.
you both, regardless of emails or phone time,
did NOT know each other ,
and still barely do.
regardless of her ice queen status, that can make any normal woman retreat.
wether its her not into you at all
(for any number of reasons, personality, looks , materialistic expectations etc)
i do not think you can go back in time and salvage anything with her..
you have nothing to salvage in the first place?
you have a long drawn out phone/pen pal relationship ..
with two lousy meetings spread over two years time..
(listen, i'm married, but was thinking that i see my tax lady more often and dont love her in the least,and shes just as affectionate as your *romantic interest*,but far more talkative)
its not about her, or you.
its just you two obviously dont click.
while realtionships can take some time to get started ,youve given this one its fair chances.
its not meant to be, noones fault,
if it had ANY hope, some spark would have happened long before now.
so move on.
sorry for the long post,i should have just said-
I think if you spent half the energy on someone new,
you'd likely be more than twice as happy with the results.
does that make any sense?
as far as number 2.
you ARE kidding right?
scam or not,
forget her completely unless she shows up at your door.
if she does , call the cops!
as normal attractive women ,do not-
fly around the world thru moscow , dying friends , and all this adversity to chase
some random stranger from the internet down to meet them.