Russian women ask West Men

[Rina_G]

Thanks Gator - as usually   
Realy you  understood me very well.
I know what I reply now

[Shadow]

Actually Dave, Shadow's post here has quite the condescending air to it for those who may have went and conquered without looking for years such as he did. Kind of a "My way is THE way, yours is poop" kind of statement. When you break it down there's really no truth to it but he attempts to speak it with such authority. I read it the same way as did apple. There are many success stories where men met their wife on the first trip. It doesn't really matter whether the man has looked for months or for years. Because a man looked years doesn't improve his woman one iota.

 

Reading it back that  way I must agree with you that is came out strong, and rather unintended.  As far as looking for years, I did not look in the FSU for longer than 10 months, not exactly a long time.

[remiel6]

as far as the question went

My mother was very supportive, that thing about wanting grandkids I think.
My father would be happy to see me married no matter where she is from
my brother looks at me quizzically and I think sighs and giggles because well I can never do anything the "Normal" way.
the rest of my friends by now no longer directly question my odd decisions. That being said there are a few who are afraid of greencard girls and things like that, but their opinion is based on the small amount of knowledge on the subject they possess and a fear of seeing me get hurt.
all in all 99% are very supportive and have offered to help the fiances transition in any way they can. The 1% who are skeptical, they want nothing more then to be wrong and have everything work out.

[Rina_G]

to remieil6
Thanks for post.
it seems to me you're very lucky with your family.
I asked this question cause I knew one man from UK.
when he was going to come to me his brothers was ready to remove his from general business.
I saw they used him as free pay worker (above 10 hours without weekend) /
he can't say them anything contra
It was his choice

[groovlstk]

to remieil6
Thanks for post.
it seems to me you're very lucky with your family.
I asked this question cause I knew one man from UK.
when he was going to come to me his brothers was ready to remove his from general business.
I saw they used him as free pay worker (above 10 hours without weekend) /
he can't say them anything contra
It was his choice

Rina, maybe your UK guy was telling the truth, but I'm skeptical. If a man writes to you and you start to develop a relationship online and then he suddenly tells you he can't visit because his family will take away his inheritance or job, I would call it straight bullsh*t. On antidate, I believe there's a long thread sarcastically devoted to men who have tragic accidents only days before they are supposed to fly to Russia for a first meeting, or they get cancer and die... Most of these men are simply keyboard romeos, they get what they can emotionally from women and then when they run out of excuses as to why they haven't visited, they break up and move on to other women. It's pretty repulsive and such men are no better than the same scammers they like to complain about, maybe even worse.

[Kvinna]

to remieil6
Thanks for post.
it seems to me you're very lucky with your family.
I asked this question cause I knew one man from UK.
when he was going to come to me his brothers was ready to remove his from general business.
I saw they used him as free pay worker (above 10 hours without weekend) /
he can't say them anything contra
It was his choice

Rina, I think now you are trying to excuse him, but better don't do it
I can suggest you to read one great book to make up your mind in some way He's Just Not That into You by Greg Behrendt and Liz Tuccillo. It's translated into russian and you can find it on the RuNet
also, try facebook.com to look for a man or whatever you look for... believe me there is more chances than in the agencies and dating sites

[Rina_G]

I don't think it was truth or not
I think if person want to lie - at first he lies to himself.
I think he wasn't ready to serious relations with so far woman.
he wanted to have pleasure time but when time became more and more real he was scared.
he was very simple man to build complex parties
and it was just example for this theme

[Rina_G]

to Kvinna
thanks I try to find this book
I don't beleive in social net as facebook - I've registered there but I prefer to look among men who therefore say I'm looking for woman.
I have no problems with friends in Russia/
I have no time for virtual blah-blah-blah
and now I take time out with searching

[Kvinna]

I don't beleive in social net as facebook - I've registered there but I prefer to look among men who therefore say I'm looking for woman.
I have no problems with friends in Russia/
I have no time for virtual blah-blah-blah
and now I take time out with searching

Nevermind, than use those site where men said they look for a woman but in fact hunt scammers and play their mind games

[Rina_G]

Yes I agree with you - there are so many bad people in dating sites. it's not bad or good  - it's life.
But I don't want to say - Hi I would like to be marry in social sites/
In Russia there are many social sites too - I don't make this there too.
It's my choice and I'mnot fanat of marry
Realy someone doesn't find anyone and life continues - lol

[Faux Pas]

Reading it back that  way I must agree with you that is came out strong, and rather unintended.  As far as looking for years, I did not look in the FSU for longer than 10 months, not exactly a long time.

I tip my hat to you for that admission. That post did seem to me very misleading and very unShadow like. 

[Rina_G]

Hi guy!
and again i have to ask question foe you
hope you'll be kidh to me as ussually
I would like to know
HOW MUCH "COSTS" FRSU WOMAN  FOR WEST MAN?
I mean - to bring her in your country, legalisation and a rest - maybe I don't know everything spending/
thanks Rina 

[Gator]

Why ask?  You know that RW are priceless.  Just ask my wife. 

[MatryoshkaMan]

On my first go-around it took me 8 months from first intro until I landed in Kiev and met N. I would have went sooner but that was 10 years ago and I was a penniless bum . On my second go around (this time armed with a decent job  ) it took me 3.5 months from first "prevet" to hugs at the airport. 3-4 months is perfect in my opinion, especially if its a wovo trip. You want to balance getting to know her well enough to have the comfort to spend the time and money to go see her with her ability to wait. Most women will realize you are serious only when they know you have dropped the G-bomb on a ticket.

[Jumper]

Rina-
"costs"
can include many things in this process?
how many trips to even meet someone special?
 how many trips to visit and know the person well enough to marry?
its different for each couple?


If you are talking about just the immigration fees,in the US, they are not too much.
overall to get my wife  here, relocation ,immigration fees ,and trips to poland embassy/kiev embassy
 (since we married in ukraine we filed fr visa thru the consulate in warsaw,,that has changed to kiev now)
it was probably about $5,000?
 
 That would certainly  not include the many trips to see her ,and date her over two years before we married and she moved here,
or any of the normal  costs to get her settled into a new life  here with just some basics.. (decent car, etc)
 these  are all normal things...and to be expected by a man traveling there in hopes of a long term relationship/marriage.
 

[2tallbill]

Hi guys!
Thanks for answers/
you help me to understood many others things.
I thought that it's normal to meet in two monthes.
but it\s very important telephone calls.
and so I can understand real purpose man cause romeo  don't like to call - they prefer just internet connect.
and contact is next:
1. meeting on datng site
2. pass on e-mail
3. pass on-line connect (messager or Skype)
4. pass on phone connect
5. planning real meeting
Am I correct?
Rina

I didn't meet my wife on a Dating site, but I did meet plenty of others
I would exchange contact information like email, messenger, skype, phone
immediately. Usually, I would dump them after a skype or two. They would
not look like their photos, they would show their CrAzineSs or something
else.

If they passed those tests, I would start figuring out how to meet them.
I didn't want to wait for them to meet some other 2tallbill before I jumped
on a plane.

Most didn't pass the tests.