Where to find the 'best' woman

[Mars]

The 'Entitlement' topic has got me wondering.
Particularly after reading Ludmila's post which indicates the FSUW entitlement attitude is a deeply ingrained cultural fact.
For those men whom this attitude grates on; what are the alternatives?

1. Chose from among fat AW.
2. Chose from among short Filipino women.
3. Chose from among big a$$ed SA women with hot tempers and possibly knives.
4. Chose from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.
5. Chose from among Muslim women who are going deep undercover until time comes.
6. Suck it up and stay with the FSUW.

Pretty depressing.

[Misha]

The question is not where. What you have to do is find a woman who will truly love you for who you are. Yes, she may be a few years (decades) older and perhaps not as attractive at the desired 20-year-old hottie, but if she truly loves you then the "entitlement" issues will be easily resolved as a couple.

[Gator]

There is another option - live alone.  Although it goes against how humans are hardwired, it has many benefits.

[tfcrew]

4. Chose [choose] from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.

Cuisine of the bow-wow?

[groovlstk]

For those men whom this attitude grates on; what are the alternatives?

1. Chose from among fat AW.
2. Chose from among short Filipino women.
3. Chose from among big a$$ed SA women with hot tempers and possibly knives.
4. Chose from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.
5. Chose from among Muslim women who are going deep undercover until time comes.
6. Suck it up and stay with the FSUW.

Pretty depressing.

I would say that "those men" probably spend too much time listing reasons why the plethora of single women, both local and international, are unfit for them when the real problem is a lot closer to home 

[OlgaH]

For those men whom this attitude grates on; what are the alternatives?

1. Chose from among fat AW.
2. Chose from among short Filipino women.
3. Chose from among big a$$ed SA women with hot tempers and possibly knives.
4. Chose from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.
5. Chose from among Muslim women who are going deep undercover until time comes.
6. Suck it up and stay with the FSUW.

Pretty depressing.

What sounds depressing is only a man who creates such a list. 

Some men need to generate some kind of myth in their minds to justify their failure instead of looking inside themselves.

In such case the Gator's  "There is another option - live alone" sounds as the best advice for such men.

... when the real problem is a lot closer to home 

Aha... question is "is anybody home?"

[Faux Pas]

I would say that "those men" probably spend too much time listing reasons why the plethora of single women, both local and international, are unfit for them when the real problem is a lot closer to home 

Sahweet! Someone willing to call a spade a spade.

The 'Entitlement' topic has got me wondering.
Particularly after reading Ludmila's post which indicates the FSUW entitlement attitude is a deeply ingrained cultural fact.
For those men whom this attitude grates on; what are the alternatives?

1. Chose from among fat AW.
2. Chose from among short Filipino women.
3. Chose from among big a$$ed SA women with hot tempers and possibly knives.
4. Chose from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.
5. Chose from among Muslim women who are going deep undercover until time comes.
6. Suck it up and stay with the FSUW.

Pretty depressing.

The entitlement factor is IMO a human trait. Who here among us does not feel entitled? To think that FSUW somehow wouldn't feel entitled as well is absurd on it's face.

It never ceases to amaze me why many in this pursuit constantly look to blame others for their failures and/or misgivings complete with listings of generalizations that have zero merit for most women on the planet. There is something wrong with all of them. Absolutely! There is also something wrong with you. Have you started a thread about that yet?

[brave girl]

The 'Entitlement' topic has got me wondering.
Particularly after reading Ludmila's post which indicates the FSUW entitlement attitude is a deeply ingrained cultural fact.
For those men whom this attitude grates on; what are the alternatives?

1. Chose from among fat AW.
2. Chose from among short Filipino women.
3. Chose from among big a$$ed SA women with hot tempers and possibly knives.
4. Chose from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.
5. Chose from among Muslim women who are going deep undercover until time comes.
6. Suck it up and stay with the FSUW.

Pretty depressing.

American african woman??     brave girl

[Daveman]

...There is something wrong with all of them. Absolutely! There is also something wrong with you.

uhh,Yahtzee! Great point.  There is something wrong with all of us.

I read a fantastic book recently which I'd recommend to anyone for better understanding relationships and the seemingly inevitable disappointment...

The Eden Project - In Search Of The Magical Other by James Hollis.  A very basic and rather primitive synopsis is that we unconsciously project aspects of ourselves onto the Other (aspects of fantasy application in lieu of what we really don't/can't know about our partner) and of course become disillusioned when reality doesn't match with our fantasy world.  These projections are ubiquitous and the key is to be aware that they do in fact exist, and then to eliminate as many of them as possibly so that real love for the individual person as a different and unique being can develop, grow, and thrive.  A very "different" perspective on Soul Mates than that which we westerners are accustomed.  

Anyway, excellent book... even for those not so into Jungian psychology.  

[HiTech]

The entitlement factor is IMO a human trait. Who here among us does not feel entitled? To think that FSUW somehow wouldn't feel entitled as well is absurd on it's face.

I do not feel entitled that anyone must give me anything.

It never ceases to amaze me why many in this pursuit constantly look to blame others for their failures

You do not see this  statement  as a result of people feeling entitled?

HiTech

[Ade]

The 'Entitlement' topic has got me wondering.
Particularly after reading Ludmila's post which indicates the FSUW entitlement attitude is a deeply ingrained cultural fact.
For those men whom this attitude grates on; what are the alternatives?

1. Chose from among fat AW.
2. Chose from among short Filipino women.
3. Chose from among big a$$ed SA women with hot tempers and possibly knives.
4. Chose from among Asian women who likely have even stranger cultural traits.
5. Chose from among Muslim women who are going deep undercover until time comes.
6. Suck it up and stay with the FSUW.

Pretty depressing.

The best woman is at my house but she's taken.

I'd agree with the others here though; stay single, women everywhere will thank you.

[kievstar]

You need to work on your confidence issues. You also have some bitterness in your words.  Very strange list.

[Mars]

WWhhooooopppss.  My bad.

In my depressed state I had not noticed that my words would leave me wide open to the pile on gang.

Sorry

[apple47]

............................................................Larry

[Misha]

1. Chose from among fat AW.

I always find these comments about "fat" AW interesting as all the stats demonstrate that AM are fatter and more obese than AW notably if you look solely at the stats for White Americans

[XMan]

Two-thirds of American adults are either obese or overweight.

Amongst obese [as opposed to overweight] adults, thirty-three per cent are women and twenty-eight per cent are men.  Here are the percentages…

Women
      White women (non-Hispanic) – 31 %
      Mexican American women – 38 %
      Black women (non-Hispanic) – 49 %

According to statistics, it isn't good for male or female.  But there is indeed a higher percentage of female obesity. 
These are American Medical Association stats, so I assume accurate.

[GQBlues]

These are American Medical Association stats, so I assume accurate.

Fairly consistent with WHO's report for 2008.

31.1% for Males, 33.2% for Females.

A little over 2% difference. 

Which technically, still leaves quite a bit of females that's relatively sized to fit.

But we all know this is just a silly excuse why men search elsewhere for a mate.

[vwrw]

Mars, why would you choose “the best” woman from among fat AW when you can choose from among slim and good - looking AW? Yes, there are not many of them available on the market for dating, but you do not need many, you need only one, right? 

[Jumper]

Mars, why would you choose “the best” woman from among fat AW when you can choose from among slim and good - looking AW? Yes, there are not many of them available on the market for dating, but you do not need many, you need only one, right?  

ahh but VWRW,,
that few AW like that are availble is it exactly??
 and the perception that there are  *more that are availible in the FSU* is what  that drives this website afterall ?  



ohh! off topic! but I think your screen name  should have changed long ago to VMRW..
or turbonetchka or something..  



but that's just me

[Jumper]

i'd like to add,
that i've always felt, if you a make a true soul searching earnest attempt to be the *best man you can be*
(spritually,menatlly,physically)

a good woman will find you.


If you are reasonably financially stable, are a personable, interesting man, (which if not already ,you can learn, explore,study,become?)
 and reasonably attractive, or make an attempt to be, by staying in good shape..
and have reasonable expectations, nothing would keep you single long?


Hey nothing wrong with swimming to your ship , instead of waiting for it to come in..
(i'm a proponent of this)
but prepare and be a good swimmer!

 

Ive course i'm doling out silly advice and am currently single,,
hmm, so on second thought dont listen to me,,

listen to gator, groov, vaughn etc.!!

[Ludmila]

Mars,

I was very disappointed when I read your post and realized you were so frustrated. Please, don't be! There aren't any reasons for that. Please, cheer up!

What you have to do is definitely reconsider your criteria for the search, change the search strategy and tactics, and bring your requirements to a realistic basis. Let us analyze together.


Who said that to find your better half is an easy matter? Of course, it's hard. Let me remind you that the rich , who are able to buy the restaurant and all its personnel, not only take his date there, find it yet harder than a common guy .

Their biggest and inevitable problem and  ever lasting doubt is that the lady will love their money, status, etc, but not them per se.  Think about it !

And, as is known, there's always somebody round the corner, in whose pocket there are more coins, and they ring brighter, the rich guy is never relaxed, there's always danger that the girl will leave him for a richer guy ( because he is never sure she loved him for his soul). Hence, dispair, drugs, perversion, indiscriminate sex( to compensate for the doubt, etc etc).



 In my opinion, a common guy  with brains,  at least some education, who is trying hard, who is honest, responsible and hard working has an excellent chance of finding a good lady. Because he is offering all this to a lady without the money aspect overpowering the situation, and  a spiritual lady will never fail to notice, assess and value it.

 In fact, there are many ladies out there ( in the part of the world, where you are looking. And I do understand "why").
 ONLY , PLEASE, SPY NOT ONLY WITH YOUR LITTLE EYE, BUT WITH YOUR HEART , TOO !

Look, even at the stage of correspondence there's always a chance to figure out some spiritual qualities of the lady/ladies or, lack thereof ( the subjects you are discussing-- whether they are interesting or you are talking ab nothing; what your  dreams and aspirations are; whether she is lonely and is highly motivated to find her other half to be able to give her warmth to him, NOT ONLY TO BE ENTITLED for things, or whether she will " endure" your love-- then she is definitely entitled for things from you.

A spiritual fair lady, whom you have taken to the restaurant ( and please, in your case, don't take her to a resort, it is premature, it should be in the right time !!!!! she isn't entitled to that yet: she is supposed to demonstrate her dedication to you first), has clear realization that after all the dating-- LIFE begins and it means setting goals together, overcoming problems together, having common interests and aspirations, knowing you can lean on each other's shoulder , find an understanding ear , overcome problems together.Then you won't have issues with entitlement.

I am afraid you have burnt yourself with the "wrong"  ladies. I'd advise you to pay attention to the CRITERIA of choosing ladies. Possibly,bring wishful thinking to the realistic basis, and look for a lady to gladden your soul, not only the body ( oh, I do know, how hard it is to find a harmonious partner !). For that ,she isn't supposed to be a model, JUST physically appealing and, MOSTLY,gladden your spirit and heart !
  

Let the heart LEAD and have its final say,  after your eyes said " yes".

[Misha]

According to statistics, it isn't good for male or female.  But there is indeed a higher percentage of female obesity. 
These are American Medical Association stats, so I assume accurate.

The stats that I found tell a slightly different story according to the Journal of the American Medical Association website: http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content-nw/full/295/13/1549/JOC60036T5

For Non-Hispanic White adult males in 2003-2004:    70.6% were overweight or obese, 31.1% were obese, and 2.8% were extremely obese;
For Non-Hispanic White adult females in 2003-2004: 58.0% were overweight or obese, 30.2% were obese, and 5.8% were extremely obese.

As you can see, there are more Non-Hispanic White adult females that are neither overweight nor obese (42%) than Non-Hispanic adult males (29.4%). So, if anything, it should be Non-Hispanic White AW going overseas to find thin men 

[Sculpto]

whoa!

given your list and later admission of depression I fail to see what you offer ANY of the poor women on your list.

Get your own house in order before you subject any other humans to your misery.

[Gator]

In my depressed state I had not noticed that my words would leave me wide open to the pile on gang.

I hope you are not depressed but simply frustrated (Ludmila's assessment)  by your lack of finding a woman who really interests you.

AJ and Ludmila are not piling on and are giving you some encouragement.  New people who did not know AJ because his posts were made mostly years ago should now realize he is a good guy.

When Turbo finds your thread, he can tell you how long he persevered before finding VWRW.  In comparison with Turbo, you have just begun.  

OK, no piling on.  But we need some information to offer some constructive help.  Something about Russia and RW has compelled you to look among the Slavs rather than in Asia, SA and elsewhere.  What is it that compelled you other than their beauty?  Please tell us what you have found lacking about the women you have met in your many trips.

You are intelligent and could make this a productive exercise.  However, your opening post in this thread did not suggest profound thinking.

[vwrw]

ahh but VWRW,,
that few AW like that are availble is it exactly??
 and the perception that there are  *more that are availible in the FSU that derives this website afterall ?  

ohh! off topic! but I think your screen name  should have changed long ago to VMRW..
or turbonetchka or something..  

I agree with you, AJ it is easy to perceive that there are more thin and good-looking women there among FSU women. Statistics also supports this perception. However, while I think that overall FSUW and AW are similar, they are not exactly the same. I admire mentality of few Russia women (who are like Mies or BF), but with exclusion of the few FSU women, I favor AW, and I find them very likeable. 

What does the abbreviation VMRW stay for? Is it very mean RW?