Real and unreal man. Maybe I'm wrong?

[apple47]

    Don't know the fix for your problem Rina.    Maybe it is as Mars said and they no longer allow FSU .    Though I never had a problem with scammers from that site.   It was in March 2003 that we found each other there. Maybe things have changed since then.   Sorry.


                                                   ...Larry

[Sculpto]

Just classify me in with morally bankrupt and criminally insane men. I'm real dangerous

Beware of the men who lies on his profile so he can get into your pants. Exactly how many profiles you got in various cities 2012isfiction? Any luck?

Dude you are the one who has been bragging about all the Seattle RWs you are dating and getting kisses and more from.. so.. how about you illuminate us as to how your values are in some way superior than anyone else?     Last I noticed you are dating 4 different women.  Are you open with all of them about who you are and are not sleeping with?  What did you promise them to get some nooky?  Actually, don't answer, I am sure no one thinks you would answer honestly.

[BillyB]

Are you open with all of them about who you are and are not sleeping with? 

I never said I was sleeping with anyone. All the women I go out with know I'm dating them as a friend first and that I am open to a serious relationship. If they want to jump my bones, that is their choice. When they want to go exclusive with me, then we will talk. None has asked to go exclusive yet. The lady I spent time with yesterday who've I've seen for the 4th time said she's not looking for marriage but companionship. Unfortunately when driving to see her, I drove through the city where 4 cops were murdered about 30 minutes after it happened.

  What did you promise them to get some nooky? 

2012isFiction, you need to learn when you do a fantastic job providing nooky, she will come back for more without having to tempt her with something. You don't have to promise them anything and it doesn't have to cost you big $.  Sometimes she comes back for a second round within minutes of the 1st if you're really good. It's good advice for all men to perform their best to make their lady happy. Get in shape and build up some endurance if you have to.

All these years on forums I've told people my goal is searching for a woman I can marry and spend my life with. That's still my goal but now I'm forced to live a life of a single man and you seem to be upset or jealous about it to the point of giving warnings to women on this forum that they should be angry with a guy like me.  :noidea:

[Rina_G]

Hi Guys!
I say always - we can't write ALL in post
so we can't understand ALL opinion of another person.
so we have more to ask and to be polite
thanks

[BillyB]

Hi Guys!
I say always - we can't write ALL in post
so we can't understand ALL opinion of another person.
so we have more to ask and to be polite
thanks

Rina, I can tell you are a polite and sweet lady. That's the way all women should be. I have been polite with Mr. Fiction by giving him some valuable Golden advice. It's not advice to catch a woman but one way to keep her and keep her coming back.

Him and I have some differences on issues and some differences where hashed out months ago. He thinks I'm a bad guy for dating multiple ladies and I must be deceiving them. I think he's a bad guy for being a drug user and I'll bet he didn't specify that in his profile in his effort to catch a woman. Deep down he knows it's a turn off for most RW. Who's really being deceptive?

Now wanting to be a hero, he figures you ladies don't know how to choose your man and decides to warn you against men like me and he figures you're not smart enough to comprehend so he tells you when you should be insulted after I write something. Me thinks he wants you all for himself! I won't compete. He can have RussianWind because I suspect she has given her bikini photos to other men in this forum. She is a two timer! Brave Girl is too cheap for my tastes. I want to a woman who knows how to spend money faster. I want a woman who's got style and taste and won't drive anything cheaper than a Ferrari. I'm not writing any RW or Men where he lives in San Fransico either. He has plenty to choose from there and he shouldn't feel threaten by me dating in his turf!

[NJ]

He thinks I'm a bad guy for dating multiple ladies and I must be deceiving them. I think he's a bad guy for being a drug user and I'll bet he didn't specify that in his profile in his effort to catch a woman.

Guys don't argue. You BOTH are BAD! 

[BillyB]

You BOTH are BAD! 

That's not so bad because you ladies like bad boys!

I've always been a "one woman at a time" kind of guy. Since the breakup with my fiancee, I'm going to date more than one at a time. I'm not jealous if the RW are currently dating another man. I'm not going to waste my time commiting myself to one woman who very well may be dating other men. I post my experiences on the forum not to brag how many ladies I'm dating but to post my experiences and give guys some tips and clues on how to be more successful and what you should be hearing from real ladies instead of scammers. Some people have insinuated that once a RW gets to America, guys in this forum will have no chance to date them. I have not experienced any difficulties getting dates with RW in America. A lot of them still enjoy the company of a male. If I tell my story and some guys get angry or jealous, that is not my problem. That is their problem. I'm enjoying life. Here's a couple of new developments in my life.

I communicate with a college age RW on a student visa. Early on I tell her I'm looking for a good woman in my life. She tells me don't look on the Internet and that she uses the Internet for communication with family back home. I tell her I know but there are a few good people out there and I will find them. A few days and numerous messages later after I'm confident she knows enough about me to make some sort of decision so I tell her I don't want to waste her time or mine. I'm looking for a good woman, good lover and hopefully a woman I can spend my life with. I don't come to the Internet to chat forever. She continues to communicate with me without addressing what I wrote but I know she's interested. A few messages later I ask for her phone number and without hesitation, I get it. On the phone she tells me she's going on Winter break soon and asked if I've ever been to Florida. She plants a seed in my head. She wants to see me but I'll ask her a few more serious questions before making a trip to Florida. Although she's not looking for guy on the Internet, she's looking for a guy. I may have impressed her in our communications.

Another woman from Moldova writes me this in Russian and I will post a translation:

 значит так
как ты думаешь, в семье муж и жена должны быть на равных или муж должен быть главным?
Ты религиозный человек? В церковь ходишь?
Ты хочешь, чтобы жена работала или нет?
Какие обязанности должны быть у жены?
Любишь ли ты делать подарки любимой женщине?
Ты всегда говоришь правду, не будешь ли ты обманывать жену?
Ты верный, или считаешь, что у мужчины могут быть несколько женщин кроме жены?
Ты со многими девушками на сайте общаешься?

Means so:)
How you think, in a family the husband and the wife should be as equals or the husband should be the main thing?
You the religious person? To church you go?
You want, that the wife worked or not?
What duties should be at the wife?
Whether you like to make gifts to the beloved?
You always tell the truth, whether you will deceive the wife?
You true, or consider, what the man can have some women except the wife?
You on a site communicate with many girls?

She has aready spoken to me on the phone and really likes me. She has asked me about my life and how I live. We've already discussed about intimacy in a relationship. We both like the same frequency of at least once a day and sometimes more than once. Intimacy is a very delicate subject and if a guy talks about it at the wrong time, he will have made a big mistake. There are already enough sex maniacs on the internet that talk more sex than these girls can handle. The truth is even the good girls want to have a great physical relationship with her man and they will be open to discuss it at the right time with a mature man.

This lady early in our communications thought our age difference was a little more than she was looking for and she's taller than me. I told her don't worry, I like women with long legs. Basically I told her I have no problem with it. After communicating with me, growing fond of me and that last message I got today, I know she's mine. All I have to say is "I'm coming to visit you. Stop communicating with other men and I will stop communicating with other women and we will begin to focus only on each other". She, like many of the ladies I communicate with, are good women after you learn more about them. They don't talk nasty and rude, they're college educated, polite and know how to apologize if they think they wrote or said something wrong or insulting. Almost all have both parents still married and come from strong loving families.

At this time I will not propose a visit or go exclusive with her. I will remind her we're friends but I like her very much, tell her the reasons why I like her and that we should continue to learn more about each other before making any serious decisions.

I wish all men would get the same kind of communication I'm getting that includes discussing hard core questions and getting hard core answers about life and marriage instead of trying too hard to get communication from a woman not interested or talking to a scammer for months. A guy with great social skills can attract a lot of ladies even though initially the ladies may not be interested due to age, height, or whatever restrictions they may have when searching for a partner. And some ladies won't take down their barriers no matter how good you can talk.

For those of you who think I'm only targeting young ladies on the internet, I will say I don't hold a lady's age against her and I'm currently dating one local lady older than I.

[boaterguy]

BillyB.. All I can say from what you write is go on and toot your horn Dude!  :evil:

[Sculpto]

Blah blah blah.  Who are you trying to convince?

That's not so bad because you ladies like bad boys!

I've always been a "one woman at a time" kind of guy. Since the breakup with my fiancee, I'm going to date more than one at a time. I'm not jealous if the RW are currently dating another man. I'm not going to waste my time commiting myself to one woman who very well may be dating other men. I post my experiences on the forum not to brag how many ladies I'm dating but to post my experiences and give guys some tips and clues on how to be more successful and what you should be hearing from real ladies instead of scammers. Some people have insinuated that once a RW gets to America, guys in this forum will have no chance to date them. I have not experienced any difficulties getting dates with RW in America. A lot of them still enjoy the company of a male. If I tell my story and some guys get angry or jealous, that is not my problem. That is their problem. I'm enjoying life. Here's a couple of new developments in my life.

I communicate with a college age RW on a student visa. Early on I tell her I'm looking for a good woman in my life. She tells me don't look on the Internet and that she uses the Internet for communication with family back home. I tell her I know but there are a few good people out there and I will find them. A few days and numerous messages later after I'm confident she knows enough about me to make some sort of decision so I tell her I don't want to waste her time or mine. I'm looking for a good woman, good lover and hopefully a woman I can spend my life with. I don't come to the Internet to chat forever. She continues to communicate with me without addressing what I wrote but I know she's interested. A few messages later I ask for her phone number and without hesitation, I get it. On the phone she tells me she's going on Winter break soon and asked if I've ever been to Florida. She plants a seed in my head. She wants to see me but I'll ask her a few more serious questions before making a trip to Florida. Although she's not looking for guy on the Internet, she's looking for a guy. I may have impressed her in our communications.

Another woman from Moldova writes me this in Russian and I will post a translation:

 значит так
как ты думаешь, в семье муж и жена должны быть на равных или муж должен быть главным?
Ты религиозный человек? В церковь ходишь?
Ты хочешь, чтобы жена работала или нет?
Какие обязанности должны быть у жены?
Любишь ли ты делать подарки любимой женщине?
Ты всегда говоришь правду, не будешь ли ты обманывать жену?
Ты верный, или считаешь, что у мужчины могут быть несколько женщин кроме жены?
Ты со многими девушками на сайте общаешься?

Means so:)
How you think, in a family the husband and the wife should be as equals or the husband should be the main thing?
You the religious person? To church you go?
You want, that the wife worked or not?
What duties should be at the wife?
Whether you like to make gifts to the beloved?
You always tell the truth, whether you will deceive the wife?
You true, or consider, what the man can have some women except the wife?
You on a site communicate with many girls?

She has aready spoken to me on the phone and really likes me. She has asked me about my life and how I live. We've already discussed about intimacy in a relationship. We both like the same frequency of at least once a day and sometimes more than once. Intimacy is a very delicate subject and if a guy talks about it at the wrong time, he will have made a big mistake. There are already enough sex maniacs on the internet that talk more sex than these girls can handle. The truth is even the good girls want to have a great physical relationship with her man and they will be open to discuss it at the right time with a mature man.

This lady early in our communications thought our age difference was a little more than she was looking for and she's taller than me. I told her don't worry, I like women with long legs. Basically I told her I have no problem with it. After communicating with me, growing fond of me and that last message I got today, I know she's mine. All I have to say is "I'm coming to visit you. Stop communicating with other men and I will stop communicating with other women and we will begin to focus only on each other". She, like many of the ladies I communicate with, are good women after you learn more about them. They don't talk nasty and rude, they're college educated, polite and know how to apologize if they think they wrote or said something wrong or insulting. Almost all have both parents still married and come from strong loving families.

At this time I will not propose a visit or go exclusive with her. I will remind her we're friends but I like her very much, tell her the reasons why I like her and that we should continue to learn more about each other before making any serious decisions.

I wish all men would get the same kind of communication I'm getting that includes discussing hard core questions and getting hard core answers about life and marriage instead of trying too hard to get communication from a woman not interested or talking to a scammer for months. A guy with great social skills can attract a lot of ladies even though initially the ladies may not be interested due to age, height, or whatever restrictions they may have when searching for a partner. And some ladies won't take down their barriers no matter how good you can talk.

For those of you who think I'm only targeting young ladies on the internet, I will say I don't hold a lady's age against her and I'm currently dating one local lady older than I.

[BillyB]

BillyB.. All I can say from what you write is go on and toot your horn Dude!  :evil:

Marrying a fine woman like my ex fiancee is the only horn I want to toot. There's no reason to celebrate anything less.  This should be normal correspondence for all of you seeking a life partner. Serious questions should be asked and serious answers should be given. If any of you feel lucky to get the same type of correspondence I'm getting, then you are hurting. Sorry if any of you see my previous post as boastful. I get this type of correspondence from a number of ladies and I will never see a kiss from most of them.

I call up the gal from Moldova today. Her tone of voice was happy right from the beginning. After a minute of talking about standard stuff the conversation goes like this:

Me: Did your read my answers to your questions and what do you think about them?
Her: Yes I read and I will write you my reply.
Me: Okay and write me your own answers to your questions too. How many men do you have writing you? 100?
Her: NO!
Me: 50? (few seconds of silence) Yeah, 50 sounds about right. Out of all those men writing you, how do you know me from them? Do you even know the man talking to you now? What is my name?
Her: Billy
Me: Who?!?! What name did you say?!?!
Her: Umm...maybe I don't say your name correctly but it's “Billy”.
Me: Yes, that's my name. Who is your favorite man?
Her: I don't know(giggling).
Me. You must have some favorites. Where do I stand with you?
Her: Maybe you're my favorite.
Me: Maybe? Not 100% sure? I can accept that. I'm not jealous that you have so many men writing you. You should choose the best man for your life. That's a good thing. Maybe it's me, maybe not. We shall see. I'll talk to you later, I've got to get back to work.

Because of her last question to me asking if I write other women, I brought up on the phone about the men she's writing. Also based off my tone of voice and what I said, she learns I'm not a jealous control freak and I'm not going to visit her just because she likes me and I like her. She knows I communicate with other women because I already answered her question with a “yes”. She also knows I could choose another woman and I'm not desperate. I'm sure now she will try harder for me knowing she's got some competition) I've got competition too but I'm confident I'm the better man. I need more time to decide and I realize another man may make a commitment to see her and she will stop communicating with me. That's life. You win some, you lose some.

When she asked me those questions I posted previously, I didn't care if I answered in a way she wanted to hear. I don't expect to answer a woman's questions and score an A on the test. What a woman will like is that although she thinks my answer is wrong, she will like and respect my reasoning behind each answer. I will probably change her mind if my answer is different from hers and women love a man who they can learn from. I suspect this lady thinks a husband and wife should be equal and that is ideal situation for her but I wrote her that the husband should be the main decision maker in the family. Most women marry older men because they admire, respect and trust them to make the correct decisions in the family. They want a man with life experience, they do not want to marry a child. A wise man also recognizes his wife's talents and if she is wiser and financially more responsible, then he should let her control the family's finances to help make their marriage a successful one. A husband and wife has different roles and responsibilties to make a happy family. They could never be truly equal. A husband assumes the most responsibility and should accept the the responsibility of failure if it happens. If you can't trust me as your husband to make good decisions, then you should look for another man.

2012is Fiction, Sorry if nothing I said is benefitial to you. If you or anybody else have some tips or ways to communicate with ladies to grab their attention and win them over, post it. It's more about helping others and less about boasting. What works for you? This is the REAL or UNREAL MAN thread and REAL MEN should speak up. Your turn.