Sex - the other side of the coin.

[philb]

... Candidly, it is kind of like some of the silly statements I see here about WM being universally better lovers that RM - though the RW are all somehow radically superior to their American counterparts. Both claims are ludicrous.

Just my take on things.

- Dan

Really. If AM tend to be much more polite and kind than RM, why wouldn't we be better lovers? Maybe all my women lied, but I've been told that I'm pretty dang good by RW/UW. Of course, AW say the same thing...[/quote]
Oosik, I think that Dan is very gently telling you to get a clue.

[docetae]

Lars,

If you have some special fantaisy, I guess this is not by using a regular agency that you will find the kind of girl you are looking for ...

Google is your friend, I'm sure that bdsm kiev or moscow, will return tons of pages...

To go back to the origin the thread, sexuality is not something I will discuss trough a correspondance. You live it with your own sensibility but writing to a translator about your fantasm seems to me definitely weird....

Doc,
ps : Yes Docetae  belongs to the catholic culture too  ...

[Jet]

Maybe all my women lied, but I've been told that I'm pretty dang good by RW/UW.

Maybe they did, it's not really all that uncommon

 

[Rvrwind]

"All I wanted to say here-never write about ur sex preferences in the FIRST letter! Write about it,when ull be sure that ure compatible with ur woman mentally at least...If ull write about a sex in ur first letter-a normal woman can be scared. Discuss it later."

Thats basically what I am trying to say. In actuality as has been pointed out, sex is a personal thing & should be discussed in person, face to face, not in letters half way around the world. As Jack said, 8 out of ten women would dump you like a rock. Although they may be more open about sex here & more into pleasing their man it isn't a coffee table discussion project.

Oosik apropriatly challenges Brunos statistacal chart. No offence Bruno, although the chart may be correct for the entire country, due to economical conditions in certain areas & available employment these statistics are not reliable. I can assure you that here in Tver the ratio of women to men is much higher. Mostly as Jack mentioned because of the textile industries hereabouts & our proximity to Moscow.

We also have an airforce base here whose members are continually being sent to conflict areas in which they perish. That has left behind a lot of widows over the years also adding to the ratio of women to men. There are also several Universities here of which in my limited experience have a greater population of women than men.

Overall throughout the country these stats may well be accurate, but taken regionaly or by city, they are virtually useless.

STE(steve don't you every answer your e mails?) or are those Sunday night after your bath sessions wearing you down & zapping too much energy, LMFAO!!!:D

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner

[Bruno]

There are regions as oosik might be referring to where the number of women to men is certainly higher, such as the Golden Ring (Yaroslav, Vladmir, Ivanono) where you have a large textile industry, Ivano-Franco in Western Ukraine (the city of brides), the Kharkov region (because of so many universities and ladies staying after graduating). Zapporohye, Kherson, Nikolaev and Krivoy Rog seem to have a larger young female to male population which I think is due to so many young men leaving these regions for better jobs elsewhere.

Karkov : ratio 1.15

Zapporohye : ratio 1.17

Kherson : ratio 1.14

Nikolaev : ratio 1.15

Krivoy Rod : 1.17

More city at http://www.ukrcensus.gov.ua/eng/results/general/sex/ ... last census from Ukraine ( 2001 )

[/size][/size]" Foregoing data say about gradual decrease in gender disproportion in the population of Ukraine, if in 1989 there were 1163 women per 1000 men, than in 2001 - 1159. These changes are explained by changes in gender structure of rural population, where since 1989 gender ratio has changed from 1205 women per 1000 men to 1151 women per 1000 men. The reverse situation is in towns, where this index has increased from 1143 women per 1000 men in 1989 to 1163 women per 1000 men in 2001. Besides, according to the data of the last census, the proportion of women to men at the reproductive age become better, since the index, calculated like division of number of women in this age group by 1000 men in corresponding age, come to 1031. "

So, for women in reproductive age, the ratio in Ukraine is 1.03 ...

For russia, the last census was in 2002... at a global level the ratio is 1.147... only in 1959, the national ratio was near the 1.3 from Jack ( 1959 :  1.24 )...

http://www.perepis2002.ru/content.html?id=11&docid=10715289081466

If you take a look at http://www.perepis2002.ru/ct/html/TOM_02_01.htm , you will see that below 32 year old, you have more men that women... ratio below 1...

Take a look at http://www.perepis2002.ru/ct/html/TOM_02_02_0.htm for the ratio male female in several oblast... menu at the top left for select the oblast... each table give the general ration for the oblast and the ratio in function of age...

I am sure that some people will not believe these number since they don't confirm what they think but no one individual ( same own russian wife ) can have a better result that these from a census.[/font]

[KenC]

I am using my regular name, and I was using Bruno's numbers for the 1.3:1 ratio for the city in question at the time (Chernigov). I have no idea what you are talking about, I am just trying to get Bruno to stop posting national numbers to explain away the realities in various cities.

PS I'll take the opinion of my Ukraine fiance on the circumstances in her own city over anything that any of you have to say about it. Quite frankly for folks here to discount the personal experiences of several wives and fiance's of board members is bordering on arrogance. Maybe those of you that swear the women some of us know and love are wrong about their home towns would care to give me a lesson on Alaskan Native village life as well?

Oosik, there are loads of propaganda circulated in the FSU - some by agencies - some by the babushka network (old wive's tales) - and still others by people who are looking for excuses or rationale.

Olya cited some pretty outrageous 'statistics' when we first met - and I knew she was misinformed. It didn't mean much - other than the simple fact that the girls themselves find it easier, sometimes, to explain their decisions if they can externalize some of the factors to make their decisions seem more rational and understandable.

Candidly, it is kind of like some of the silly statements I see here about WM being universally better lovers that RM - though the RW are all somehow radically superior to their American counterparts. Both claims are ludicrous.

Just my take on things.

- Dan[/quote]
I don't know if those claims are ludicrous or not.  I have a theory on this that might explain the "myths?"

American men have gone through a brainwashing over the last 30 years or so in regard to sex.  It has been pounded into our brains that we need to be giving and considerate to our female partners during sex.  To be a selfish lover is almost a mortal sin for a man in America.  It has become rather standard practice for American men to be very attentive to their female partners and almost ignoring their own wants and desires.  After all, a man can get his orgasm at anytime during the process.  Sex in America has become a search for the female orgasm with little or no consideration for the man's pleasures.  The result of which is that we have created an almost reversal of roles.  The females now have become the selfish lovers and the men the pleasure givers.

Enter the Russians.  Their society is more traditional on this subject and more like the American society pre-liberation time.  The women are the pleasure givers and the men are the selfish lovers (or the pleasure seekers).  I see a great sense of pride in RW in their role of pleasure givers that I have never seen in AW.

When you match a RW with an AM, you have the best of both societies.  Two pleasure givers trying to please each other.

KenC

[Bruno]

For these who don't like read stats, they go to http://www.perepis2002.ru/index.html?id=31 and click the link "Kaptorpamma" in the middle of page... it open a map from russia... when your mouse is over a regio, it give info for the oblast....

For the Tver Oblast :

- download the file at http://www.perepis2002.ru/ct/doc/02-02_new.zip , a zipped XLS file

- open it and go to the line 1415

General ratio for Tver : 1.222

Ratio 15-19 yo : 0.982 ( more men )

Ratio 20-24 yo : 0.997

Ratio 25-29 yo :1.002 ( more woman : on 2002 people, you have 1000 men for 1002 women )

Ratio 30-34 yo : 1.046

Ratio 35-39 yo : 1.065

Ratio 40-44 yo : 1.077

No really a big difference between women and men in Tver but...

Ratio 60-64 yo : 1.549

Ratio 65-69 yo : 1.664

Ratio 70-74 yo : 2.122

Ratio 75-79 yo : 3.032

Ratio 80-84 yo : 4.431 

Ratio +85 yo : 6.583

So, Tver is not the "city of Bride" but more the "city of Babouska"... the excuse that it is not enough men in FSU is a myth... except for old Babouska

[andrewfi]

Bruno is correct. The same situation can be seen all around the world and is often a product of different lifestyles. For example, my hometown, Nottingham, in the UK, is often portrayed, comepletely inaccurately, as having a very high ratio of young women to men. Some commentators have suggested 7:1. it is as ridiculous as even the 1.3:1 posited in Russia by some who rely only upon what they see with their own eyes.

Take Nottingham. The gender balance is pretty much even, but if one walks around the streets during the day, one will see large numbers of young women. Are there more than men? Yes, there are, and if one is focussing upon young women, as a tourist, or girlwatcher, one hardly notices the men, or the older women! (Just the same as on a wife hunt!)

But, the reality is this: Nottingham hosts a very large Inland Revenue office. There are thousands of women who commute into Nottingham city centre from the suburbs and feeder towns. There are many more women than men working in this office and also the insurance, banking and retail sectors. Result? One sees more women around than men, also, they tend to be youngish and good looking, becasue the work demands young and relatively intelligent women (It is the unintelligent who tend not to be attractive as I am sure that some guys have discovered! Bright women know how to maximise their potential) Add into the mix two universities of national repute with their cadre of young people who have time to be around socialising and what do you find? Casual observers drawing incorrect inferences from the incomplete data they acquire.

Richard, Jack, Oosik and many others are suffering from 'yellow car syndrome', that malaise which occurs when one buys a car in an attractive, but, thought by the buyer to be rare colour. The new and proud owner drives out in his 'rare' car and sees a large number of cars exactly like his own. He is sensitised to the colour and model and thus sees it more readily than  others, giving himself a false impression. It is why so many middle aged guys go to the FSU and see so many attractive women. Russia has no more attractive women than anywhere else, there are not even more of them than men (unless you think you can spot a difference of 2 in 1000!) It is just that you are targetted by these women and sensitised to them! (and from what I have seen, some guys have very low standards of beauty!) Add into the mix that these guys are targetting younger and, thus generally, more physically attractive women than they would get the time of day from in their own country and it is easy to understand why so many guys become delusional. It would be surprising if it were not so!

BTW, for those neive and needy lovers who need to bolster their self confidence by beleiveng what a woman tells a man about his prowess, know this: Just as I will tell a partner that she is the greatest, she will tell me the same thing. It is what people do! If you think those words have not been spoken by that woman many times before and after you then 'nieve dolt' is not a strong enough appellation to use! Frankly, if a guy needs to tell us this kind of stuff, I would be inclined to believe that the woman was being especially kind to the guy!

[docetae]

Albert, the reason for me is that , you will agree, sex is the topic where people will the less sincere .... so do it and do not talk about it

I guess nobody here is to marry someone without spending some intimacy together ...

[Bruno]

For these who feel the need to be educated over the sexuality from Russian women, take a look at :

http://wwwomen.ru/p.php/9/ or http://wwwomen.ru/list.php/9/

They are article from Russian women periodical magazine over the thema "love and sex"... knowing what they read can help you to know what they wish...

[Admin]

I don't know if those claims areludicrous or not. I have a theory on this that might explain the "myths?"

American men have gone through a brainwashing over the last 30 years or so in regard to sex. It has been pounded into our brains that we need to be giving and considerate to our female partners during sex. To be a selfish lover is almost a mortal sin for a man in America. It has become rather standard practice for American men to be very attentive to their female partners and almost ignoring their own wants and desires. After all, a man can get his orgasm at anytime during the process. Sex in America has become a search for the female orgasm with little or no consideration for the man's pleasures. The result of which is that we have created an almost reversal of roles. The females now have become the selfish lovers and the men the pleasure givers.[/b]

Enter the Russians. Their society is more traditional on this subject and more like the American society pre-liberation time. The women are the pleasure givers and the men are the selfish lovers (or the pleasure seekers).

I see a great sense of pride in RW in their role of pleasure givers that Ihave neverseen in AW.

When you match a RW with an AM, you have the best of both societies. Two pleasure givers trying to please each other.

KenC

Ken, you may, of course, be correct. No-one really knows. My point was there is not the wide disparity of prowess some may have you believe.

I really don't want to go into too many details - but speaking from personal experience, I honestly do not believe that RW are all that much different from American women or Asian women or European women - when speaking in generalities. I think (actually, I *know*) there are RW who are fully capable of the 'dead horse sex' we read about in RWL many years ago - just as there are AW equally capable. I also know there are Asian women who are absolutely wonderful in the hay - but that doesn't mean they all are.

My take on it is that sexual intimacy can be highly-satisfying and it depends on the people involved and their attitudes towards sex and towards one another - probably the latter being the more important factor.

Just as the reported discrepancies about men vs women ratios in the FSU are often distorted (understandably), so are the 'impressions' some report about sexual prowess.

Just my opinion - and I am not going to describe how 'informed' (or not) they may be :cool:

- Dan

[KenC]

Dan,

Of course there are no absolutes and no one wants to get too personal on this issue, but I am addressing cultural attitudes toward sex.  Not that I have a large sampling of RW to hang my opinion on, for that I would have to inlist the aide of the Albert's and the Andrew's of the board.  But I would have to add that the many AM that I have talked with that are married to RW, sex never seems to be an issue.  They all seemed to be very happy campers in that area.

KenC

[Oosik]

KenC has it right, both AM and RW try very hard to please their partners for cultural reasons. That doesn't mean there aren't duds on both sides though.

Andrewfin, Yes, we all know you don't think there is anything special about RW. So why do you post in this forum? What possible interest do you have here other than trying to throw water on everyones fun? Maybe you could do something useful and tell us all about British women, I assume you know something about that? Perhaps you can tell us if "Sex Inspectors" on cable tv shows accurately how wonderful the British are in bed.

Regarding fine women walking around during the day, everyplace I have been, the fine women outnumber the men during the day, and then from 5-7pm when they get off work, the % of women skyrocket. Your Nottingham scenario does not explain it.

Bruno, thanks for your demonstration of prowess with google.

Dan, how kind of you to point out that Ken may be correct, point out that no one really knows, and then go on to once again refute the point. Have you dated R/UW from small towns? I doubt that you, despite running this board, know more about it than the women that I have spoken to.

Regarding prowess, maybe a blind poll is in order. Something that the wifes of the married guys can respond to, like "Does your husband do things for you that men from your home country rarely do" or some such.

From what I understand, based on 3 women, RM/UM are not big into giving oral sex. Emotionally healthy AM almost universally do it. Ask your wives/girlfriends about that one.

[Dude]

To me family is most importanrt also.  My peene no longer rules my life.  Our sex drive is strong by design to assure reproduction.  We must deal with it.

[Admin]

KenC has it right, both AM and RW try very hard to please their partners for cultural reasons. That doesn't mean there aren't duds on both sides though.

Andrewfin, Yes, we all know you don't think there is anything special about RW. So why do you post in this forum? What possible interest do you have here other than trying to throw water on everyones fun? Maybe you could do something useful and tell us all about British women, I assume you know something about that? Perhaps you can tell us if "Sex Inspectors" on cable tv shows accurately how wonderful the British are in bed.

Regarding fine women walking around during the day, everyplace I have been, the fine women outnumber the men during the day, and then from 5-7pm when they get off work, the % of women skyrocket. Your Nottingham scenario does not explain it.

Bruno, thanks for your demonstration of prowess with google.

Dan, how kind of you to point out that Ken may be correct, point out that no one really knows, and then go on to once again refute the point. Have you dated R/UW from small towns? I doubt that you, despite running this board, know more about it than the women that I have spoken to.

Regarding prowess, maybe a blind poll is in order. Something that the wifes of the married guys can respond to, like "Does your husband do things for you that men from your home country rarely do" or some such.

From what I understand, based on 3 women, RM/UM are not big into giving oral sex. Emotionally healthy AM almost universally do it. Ask your wives/girlfriends about that one.

Oosik,

We are NOT going to delve into a debate over whether RW are "big into giving oral sex" vice their American counterparts. As I have explained in the past, RWD to this point has not felt the need to subscribe to the COPPA, and I'd like to keep it that way. Please be responsible about what you post on the board.

- Dan [doing my BEST to restrain myself - those of you who know me, know EXACTLY what I mean :X]

[Oosik]

Dan, You misread my post. I was talking about RW receiving, not giving. I'm saying they tell me RM are not sexually giving. They tell me the men are selfish in bed. When 100% of 3 three that I have discussed this with tell me the same thing, I believe it.

Don't worry, I don't want to turn this into anything that encourages sex tourism, or turn this into a porn board. When people make general statements that I dissagree with, and my general statements fail to persuade, it is natural to use specific evidence to prove my point. Granted, 3 women is not a statisticly relevent sampling, but there are enough people here with experience that the sample size would be more relevent, and I suspect the results would prove my point.

Edit:
Maybe a less offensive item for a poll is the good old foot massage. My fiance said maybe 1/1000 UM would give a woman a foot massage. I imagine every man here does it regularly. If the women mostly said only the rare R/UM does it, would that not be an indicator that we tend to be better lovers than what they can get back home?

[Jack]

Dan, relax.  It's ok. Have some coffee, it's early.
 
Oosik, our experiences (mine and yours) differ with regards to habit's of your three RW/UW.  I don't think one can make such a broad statement based on a somewhat limited experience.

[Photo Guy]

[size="3"][color="red"]Sex?[/color][/size][/b]  [size="3"][color="darkred"]I think the subject should come up early in the relationship, if it's a subject of importance for you. If you talk about it too soon, she may get the right or wrong impression that you are a sex maniac. If you are into 'kinky' sex, whatever that means, I'd advise you to ease into it gradually as you get to know her better. If she's an adventurous personality, then the time will come when you can tell her you'd like her to... jump out of a plane with you, or do something deliciously creative involving bed posts. Personally I think it's a mistake to place too much emphasis on sex, or money, or career, or whatever. We have to create a holistic balance in our lives. If you regard women as trophy sex-toys and you go over there with that narrow vision, you'll be doing all of us a disservice.[/color][/size]

[Admin]

Dan, You misread my post. I was talking about RW receiving, not giving. I'm saying they tell me RM are not sexually giving. They tell me the men are selfish in bed. When 100% of 3 three that I have discussed this with tell me the same thing, I believe it.

Don't worry, I don't want to turn this into anything that encourages sex tourism, or turn this into a porn board. When people make general statements that I dissagree with, and my general statements fail to persuade, it is natural to use specific evidence to prove my point. Granted, 3 women is not a statisticly relevent sampling, but there are enough people here with experience that the sample size would be more relevent, and I suspect the results would prove my point.

Fair enough - I *did* misread your comment about RM.

Let me ask you a question. Who is it, do you suppose, that is teaching those sexy RW all those wonderful techniques to make them terrific lovers?? Is it, in your opinion, an inate quality just born into RW??

As for your earlier question as to whom I have dated - without providing particulars, I will merely say that I suspect there are few here who have the experiences I've enjoyed in Ukraine (and elsewhere). Which is not to say that I am the final word or the lone authority. I am merely one of many - but when I feel certain of my opinion and perspective, I feel some duty to report it.

[Oosik]

I don't think it is inate, other than culturally. The women there have to really work it to get and keep a man. Their moms tell them how to get and keep a man. The women who are prone to have feminist moments all the time are alone, the rest see them as the example to not follow.


In the US, we have a slight imbalance of extra men. We also have a culture that tells women they don't need a man, they should be independent, they can do whatever they want to do, they can talk like a man, act like a man and still claim the rights of a lady. And if we don't like it, divorce is a profitable option for women. US guys have to do some serious butt kissing to get and keep a decent woman.

I say it's cultural.

[KenC]

I think we are getting a little off track here.  At least to what I meant to imply.  I was speaking of "attitudes" toward sex and not "techniques."  Anyone can learn and improve their techniques, but to have the desire to please your partner is more of a cultural phenononem.  AM have been told in no certain terms that it is their responsibility to please their women in bed.  Whereas it has been ingrained into RW that it is their responsibility to please their men.  When you end up with a couple who's goal is to please their respective partner, then you have a great situation that would typically lead to great sex.

KenC

[Albert]

Quoting statistics after experience with 3 women is quite laughable.  And the idea that UM/RM don't give their women oral is even more laughable.  I have been intimate with over 40 FSU women, and virtually all of them experienced oral from and to FSU men.  If anything, they are even bigger on oral in FSU than in USA.  It is just standard practice.  They mostly all comment on how funny they thought is was when the Monica story was big here.

As I and others have said, women are women the world over.  Some are good at sex, some are not.   A few have high sex drives, most have low sex drives (compared to men).

I have found FSU women to be no better at sexual techniques than AW.  In fact I would say FSU women are somewhat inferior in technique to AW.

However, Ken and others are correct.  FSU women are somewhat more concerned than AW about making their men happy in bed (or on a chair, on the floor, in a tub, or wherever).  So that means, that although they start out being inferior to AW in technique, they are willing to learn, and in fact they are very interested in learning.  They (mostly) will listen quite intently to any description and then say: "I want to try it now!"

[OhioGuyRob]

I can only speak to my personaly experience.  I am 47.  When I was in my 20's I was in a rock band in southern california that played the bars in that area.... So, as one can imagine, Ive had a few expereinces.... lol

I can honestly say that I have never been in a relationship where a woman would tell me point blank... I want to have sex and on a fairly fequent basis.

IMO there are no where near the social taboo's in european cultures that exist here in the US  That filter goes into every level of a womans being since sexuality goes to how society judges the worth of a woman on a gut level.

all I can say is Im very, very happy.

[size="4"]I recently posted about a very, very, very, highly sexual woman. Such women are very, very, very rare. As such, it is unlikely that any one man has ever encountered such a woman. And, with a couple of possible exceptions, that has proven to be the case with the male posters on these discussion boards.

Some guys have had experiences with women who were willing and wishing to have sex whenever the man wanted. But that doesn't even begin to describe a very, very, very, highly sexed woman such as the woman I met and described. By their own words, most posters (including the one I quote below) reveal (even when they didn't intend to) that they completely misunderstood the situation or couldn't even comprehend it.



On a related note, many male posters have the idea that the typical FSU woman is possibly better at sex, or at least more interested in sex than the typical AW. I don't think that is the case. Women are women the world over. Most have normal (for a woman) sex drives (which are lower than the normal man's), quite a few have low sex drives, and a very few have high sex drives.

In response to my earlier post, a AM responded with the 'other side of the coin.' Through private e-mails, he gave me permission to post his story.

- - - - - -

Sex. Ah, one of my favorite subjects. This has been a sore point in my marriage to my UW. We have been married 6+ years and except for occasional minor miscellaneous problems, sex is the only thing about the marriage that has disappointed me.

We have a 12+ year age difference. My wife is 38 and a very attractive woman with a beautifulfigure. When I met her she was cute but she has blossomed into a magnificent creature. Very sexy, at least to me, which I guess is the most important thing. I don't know if I ever have met a couple with equal sex drives. People who try to determine what is "normal sexual activity" are stupid and wasting their time because it is a very complicated subject, especially when you consider the complex emotional makeup of women compared to the primaeval sex urge of most males.

My preference is twice a day, morning wake-up sex and whenever else in the day you can do it. Three or four times/day is nice occasionally and sometimes I can go one or two days without a strong desire to make love to my beautiful and sexy wife.

My wife is a once or twice a week gal. When I first went to Ukraine to meet her, I had a long discussion with her about my sexual needs. I told her right then if she was not a person who enjoyed this level of intimacy, or something close thereto, that we should not pursue the relationship any further. She had a very good knowledge of English when we met. She understood perfectly what I was talking about and she said that she too had the same type of needs. Of course our initial time together confirmed this as our relations were frequent and incredibly intense.

After we married things began slowing down. We have had many discussions about this. She has said that when we first met the emotions were very intense but that it is natural for these types of feelings to diminish with time. I told her that my desire for her has increased over time as she has blossomed into a mature woman and as my love for her has grown stronger.

It's not just about sex. I love this woman so much and sex is one of the primary ways that help me feel closer to my woman. I feel more distant when there is less intimacy. It's also not just about intercourse either. I love to kiss and cuddle and hold hands and sit close to each other. My wife appears bored by this most of the time. When we do make love it's incredible. I have no desire for any other woman ever again in my life. Honestly!

The point I am trying to make is your woman seems to be my side of the story. Obviously you will make every effort to please her and keep up with her in the courting stage but will you be able to keep it up so to speak? It sounds as though you have discussed this issue in detail and that she says she understands and can accept what you have to offer. You need to be honest with yourself and whether you can continue to make her happy.

Even after all of that, there are no guarantees that things will stay the same and that both of you will continue to be happy with this aspect of your relationship. I will never leave my wife because of this issue and I will never cheat on her because my love for her is stronger than my sexual needs but it is a source of disappointment that I deal with on an ongoing basis just like I always wanted a boy but that never happened. Oh hell, having a perfect wife would probably be boring.

Good luck to you.
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[Ste]

I'm just reminded now of 'Wallace and Gromit', Nadia and I are totally into them at the moment.

BTW 'gromit' is similar to Russian for 'to destroy' - wow! As is 'pogrom' etc....

Anyway, in the movies you might know Wallace's catchphrase, 'Cracking Cheese, Gromit' etc, the word 'cracking' being UK for 'really good' or 'really nice'

After the end of a recent bout of sexual gymnastics I just about stopped myself from saying....

"Cracking orgasm, Nadia'.........

I have this voice in my head the says 'go on, Steve, go too far.....' all the time but I held back......

Ste

[Rvrwind]

All I can say is statistics be damned.

I live here & I ain't seen so many gorgous women in one place at one time in a coons age!!! Sure wasn't where Iam from & thats a fact>

I'm in heaven & you all can be jealous!!! ROTFLMFAO:shock::D

RVR-Canadian Cowboy/Agency Owner