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Offline Blues Fairy

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #200 on: February 19, 2010, 11:31:11 AM »
Is she supposed to apply for a new Schengen visa in that case?
Or can she use her 'Spanish' Schengen visa and get slapped on the wrists for a visit to France?

Don't sweat it.  I've just got an Austrian Shengen visa and I'll be flying to/from Munich, Germany.  Done this before; no problem whatsoever. 

Once she's done with her Spain trip, I'm sure she'll be welcome in France as well.  :D  These countries are in crisis and aching for tourists. 

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #201 on: February 19, 2010, 12:08:23 PM »
No, Olga, I didn't say the plan should start with the country which issued visa. I said "the main destination" should be that country.

That means that when she brings her passport for the next visa, they will count stamps of entries and exits and the days of stay there.

My apology for confusion.

What I wanted to say that it is better when the plan will start with the main destination and entry stamp also will be by a country of main destination.  Though they say that it is not a problem if you enter the Schengen area through other country they give a notice that it is better if entry stamp will be also by a country which issued the visa.

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #202 on: February 19, 2010, 12:18:09 PM »
My apology for confusion.

What I wanted to say that it is better when the plan will start with the main destination and entry stamp also will be by a country of main destination.  Though they say that it is not a problem if you enter the Schengen area through other country they give a notice that it is better if entry stamp will be also by a country which issued the visa.

100% correct IMO
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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #203 on: February 19, 2010, 01:48:55 PM »
How can a person know in advance what their travel plans will be two, three, five months from now?
Let's say in four months, she wants to travel to France for two weeks?

You are asking logical questions for illogical rules  8)
This brings us a pain in the ass to plan trips with 1 year Finnish visas here. Fortunatelly Finns understand that their country is not that interesting like others and a bit more loyal.

Is she supposed to apply for a new Schengen visa in that case?
 

Some people do annul visas and get proper ones in a new consulate if they realise they can't follow the rules properly. Others entry "new" country through the "old" country, as Gylden said - no border controls.
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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #204 on: February 19, 2010, 09:20:27 PM »
What is really strange about all of this shengen visa talk, is that my wife and I have been traveling all around Europe (shengen countries) for the last 5 years and neither one of us has ever had to go through any passport control in any of the countries. No stamps in our passports, not any one word to any immigration agents, nothing.
If you are entering a shengen country from outside the shengen zone, then there is control. If you are traveling from one shengen country to another, there is no control. So there is no evidence of what shengen countries you have been in other than the first final destination.

you are right. In my case there always was a control because I was flying low-costs between countries - to save time/money. When traveling by car - most likely this won't be an issue. 

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #205 on: February 19, 2010, 09:33:55 PM »
Mies,
Really?  Have you had your passport stamped between shengen countries?
We allways fly and never have had ours stamped.
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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #206 on: February 20, 2010, 01:30:00 PM »
Now that this thread has been utterly and hopelessly hijacked...

More on visas.  :)

My GF is planning on applying for a visa to Canada after our trip to Spain.

Her travel agent said that a Schengen visa in her passport will help with the application.

The Schengen plus her recent trip to the Dominican Republic will show the Canadian visa officer that she has accumulated a good recent, expensive history of traveling abroad and returning to Russia.

BUT.... it will also show that her secure and essential job can't be that essential if she can manage to take off time regularly from it.

Yes, these trips would look better in the visa officer's eyes if they were spaced out more than they are, but we aren't going to put our lives on hold to please an officer.  :)

For the Canadian visa application, much more information will be required than for the previous trips. Namely, her current income and bank account records and other financial/real estate holding etc..

These records will not sync well with the financial costs of her recent trips.

With this in mind, do you have any recommendations as to how to approach the Canadian visa application? Our intention is to have her use an agent and go on a group tour to Canada.
But I feel the above facts could complicate things.


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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #207 on: February 20, 2010, 01:38:51 PM »
You're thinking a Canadian Tourist visa?
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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #208 on: February 20, 2010, 05:59:02 PM »
Now that this thread has been utterly and hopelessly hijacked...


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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #209 on: February 20, 2010, 06:05:05 PM »
"Captured by Pirates is good." -- The Princess Bride


That is my favorite movie.  And I am prepared to take the heat for saying that.   ;D
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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #210 on: February 20, 2010, 07:01:27 PM »
You're thinking a Canadian Tourist visa?

Yes, that seems to be the only one that she'd have any shot at.

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #211 on: February 27, 2010, 05:29:26 PM »
Xman,
I just returned from a 33 day trip to Ukraine which also included a 6 day 7 night all inclusive stay in Egypt.  I gotta say it was the most wonderful experience in my life. We went through a travel agent and because I was traveling from Ukraine the travel agent was able to pull some strings and the whole trip was only 1300USD RT for her and I.  snorkeling in the red sea was amazing , sunning on the beach was superb. The chance to get away from sub zero temps to a warm and sunny place was a no brain-er.

You got nothing to fear but fear itself.  Don't be SKEERED!!!!!!!
In life my friend,  it is not what you have,  but what you believe.

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #212 on: February 27, 2010, 05:58:47 PM »
Xman,
I just returned from a 33 day trip to Ukraine which also included a 6 day 7 night all inclusive stay in Egypt.  I gotta say it was the most wonderful experience in my life. We went through a travel agent and because I was traveling from Ukraine the travel agent was able to pull some strings and the whole trip was only 1300USD RT for her and I.  snorkeling in the red sea was amazing , sunning on the beach was superb. The chance to get away from sub zero temps to a warm and sunny place was a no brain-er.

You got nothing to fear but fear itself.  Don't be SKEERED!!!!!!!

Do you think this 1300 USD was something below what others were getting?
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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #213 on: February 27, 2010, 06:30:35 PM »
well I know for a fact that You can't do it for that price from the USA.  How do I know this?  You may ask.  Because as soon as the people at the resort found out I was american they wanted tripple that price.  Sorry I said,  talk to my travel agent :ROFL:.  I heard nothing more about it. And we proceeded to have the time of our lives. 
In life my friend,  it is not what you have,  but what you believe.

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Re: When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #214 on: February 28, 2010, 09:58:14 AM »
well I know for a fact that You can't do it for that price from the USA.  How do I know this?  You may ask.  Because as soon as the people at the resort found out I was american they wanted triple that price.  Sorry I said,  talk to my travel agent :ROFL:.  I heard nothing more about it. And we proceeded to have the time of our lives. 

Yes, I know we can't get these prices from USA.  However, when traveling from Ukraine or Russia, the prices are much lower.  I just didn't understand why you referred to 'pulling strings' to get this price.  It is just standard pricing from there.

And, although it is hard to compare prices for different months, different resorts, etc., two of us went to Egypt for 10 days for $800 (all inclusive) total last year.

Further, everyone knew I was from USA and there was never a hint at wanting a boost in price.  Same for my travels from Russia/Ukraine to Turkey on all inclusive packages.
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When she just doesn't get it
« Reply #215 on: September 30, 2025, 08:58:06 AM »
Don't get me wrong. 
Things are going quite well. 

That having been said, we've been discussing the next meeting (daily) -- in particular, where to meet.

She wants to meet "on a romantic beach."  OK. 
I do not see Egypt or Turkey as a romantic place to meet anywhere at anytime for anyone. 
To each his own.  But definitely not for me. 
I do see both countries as terrific places for an American to wear a big read target on his back. 

She doesn't understand, and for a very intelligent woman, I cannot grasp why. 
"Ukrainians and Russians go there all the time, it is perfectly safe."
Sure. 
For them. 

Has anyone seen the movie "Spinal Tap?" 
This one goes to 11. 

So I talked to her about attempting a USA visa and visiting a beach somewhere here (most likely Florida, considering time of year, i.e. March/April).  I think it could be interesting in many ways.  So, she did check into it, got the "it's impossible" routine, and they wisely suggested Israel as an alternative. 

I don't know how to get across the whole "I shun the Middle East in order to increase my odds of living to celebrate my next birthday" scenario.  She sees my concerns as strange, of course, because she has not seen things like suicide bombers, rockets blowing up market places, beheadings, Jihad, and what I consider to be typical Middle Eastern occurrences.  This is not something I'm going to be talked into. 

I was in chat and ran this question by some folks there:  where is a good alternative place to meet? 
I appreciated everyone's feedback, did a little research, but was not too enamored with the options. 

Does anyone know what's it like to try to get a visa to get into the Bahamas? 
Never been there, looks incredible, flights are possible, I like the idea. 

Not interested in going to Costa Rica, Mexico, Dominican Republic.  Cannot really think of an alternative. 
Thanks.


I think it's you who just don't get it.

Turkey has tons of all inclusive resorts, Russians flock to them. You can take her to Cabo.
She is shorter than you are and can fly happy as a clam in tiny airline seats.

Saltwater and sand between the toes of an FSUW is a powerful aphrodisiac (for them) and
an FSUW prancing around the beach in a bikini is pretty nice for men too. Make sure they
put on sunscreen, because they don't actually get that part. she can ruin her trip with a
severe sunburn on their first day. Tell her you will enforce sunscreen rules before she
gets on the plane and that she needs to model all her bikini's before she packs them
for the trip.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

 

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