An Anastasia Date in Odessa

[Jumper]

Alex ! Thanks for sharing..
a very interesting story..!!!!!!!!!!!








i guess i' m just too jaded ,
as i see a *set up* in different ways , in all of it..

the terp you hire, (not from the agency) knows your *intended*
 and steers you away fro her  and "her" interpreter., immediately ,,before you even meet them..  and to see other girls..  
that easily can be taken as good ,or not so good motivations..

Can you fill us in?
if the "plan" was to meet only olga.. and thru the agency terp.
why you hired an interpreter? and how you found her?
 
i think its a GOOD thing , so dont take my questions wrong..



and while i understand the knocks at anastasia date,

you guys do seem to be missing he went to his backup before even meeting the first girl (odd she dint want to meet him first day ? as to me if its wovo , and she dint want to
see me when i arrived , i wouldnt go visit her?)

and the other thing, which alex  admits is odd ,and seems overlooked ,
is the  backup was anatsasia web.( umm you all are booing anatsasia date right? ).
and some girl that just happened to be online there..
(sign up and youll get a dozen chat invitations per minute ,and a lot from odessa )



sorry to interupt the story ,can't wait to see how it plays out..!!


edit: sorry to repeat things,  jack ,as  we posted basically the same  thoughts at about the same time

[alex330]

Always trust your gut,    if a RW is interested in you, she will make sure you know it!

Yes, you will definitely know it 

[alex330]

the terp you hire, (not from the agency) knows your *intended*
 and steers you away fro her  and "her" interpreter., immediately ,,before you even meet them..  and to see other girls..  
that easily can be taken as good ,or not so good motivations..

Can you fill us in?
if the "plan" was to meet only olga.. and thru the agency terp.
why you hired an interpreter? and how you found her?

you guys do seem to be missing he went to his backup before even meeting the first girl (odd she dint want to meet him first day ? as to me if its wovo , and she dint want to
see me when i arrived , i wouldnt go visit her?)

and the other thing, which alex  admits is odd ,and seems overlooked ,
is the  backup was anatsasia web.( umm you all are booing anatsasia date right? ).
and some girl that just happened to be online there..
(sign up and youll get a dozen chat invitations per minute ,and a lot from odessa )

 

Thanks for the interest everyone.
Hey AJ, great questions. I think you are the one with personal  beef against Anastasia over a profile if I am corrrect?  

The trip was actually a WMVO to start.

I hired an independent interpreter as I had heard stories about Anastasia and had become leery. I found my interpreter online and she seemed very genuine and a good person.
She owns her own interpreter company and actually advises against even using agencies on her site.
I hired an interpreter to show me around as I failed miserably at learning some Russian and wanted to explore the culture if my dating was a failure. Do yourselves a favor guys and learn some Russian before you go if you have never been.

I went with my gut feeling to enact a backup immediately. I felt something was not right leading up to my arrival.
It was a VERY hard decision to decide to see other women, but one I felt was the correct one at the time.

My first date with Olga was not until Friday night as she works a professional job. I arrived Thursday afternoon. I too found it odd she would not want to see me sooner.
I had originally asked her to take off half a day at work to see me at lunch Friday which she failed to do.
A very eligible guy is flying halfway around the world and you do not want to see him right away or meet him at the airport?

My backup plan was a fools plan. I know. The alternate backup after that was go out with my hired interpreter and her friends which was offered as well.

[alex330]

On further conversation at dinner Olga tells me she cannot see me the next day now because she has a wedding to go to, but maybe she can see me quickly in the morning as she needs to come into town to get a new dress for the wedding. I smile and wonder who is expected to buy that new dress for her. After many months of correspondence I am a bit pissed as we had traded letters every couple days for weeks up until my trip and she never mentioned a wedding. We were supposed to spend a lot of time together, sight see, etc. I understand if she had obligations but if someone was coming half way around the world give them a bit of a heads up at least so they can make other plans. I smile and play along as these two young women try to run game on someone who is no idiot. Olga keeps looking at her watch which I am later told is because she needs to catch a  bus back to her city which is 20 km away but I feel she wants out of a situation she is not in control of. She asks how my broken leg has healed and I tell her she must be confused with another guy. I have never broken a leg.

We all get ready to leave after dinner and as Olga heads to the restroom the agency interpreter tells me I should offer to pay for Olgas cab home since it is late. I smile as my personal interpreter who was not allowed to come warned me of this but I offer anyways once we are outside. I am told it is 400 grivna and hand it over to her. She then tells me it is 400 grivna each way. I am confused but then realize she wants me to pay for her cab back to buy that new dress for her the next day. I tell her I am out of money and need to hit the ATM in the morning. The three of us walk up the street towards a stand of cabs and I kiss Olga on the cheek and she walks away. I never see her get into a cab. I sign some paperwork for the interpreter and walk back to my apartment disillusioned but accepting of the incident.

[alex330]

Once back at my apartment I spend 10 minutes rehashing the night. Did she even write those letters? Is she a pro dater? A young girl who is too shy and has suffered at the hands of a bad interpreter? Olga is absolutely stunning physically, but I feel I need to drop this girl like a rabies infected pit bull. The level of disrespect shown and the red flags were too much for me even after so many months of perfect communication. She is too shy and delicate for my lifestyle even if she is legit anyways. She would not last on a trip down the Amazon or camping on a secluded beach. I decide to move on right away.

I get a text an hour later from the agency interpreter telling me that Olga cannot see me tomorrow but would like to see me on Sunday. I tell her that is the wrong answer for a guy who has just traveled halfway around the world to see someone. She quickly replies that she will talk to Olga if she is not sleeping and try to patch things. I tell her to not worry about it and cut them both loose.

I immediately call Tanya as it is still early and try to salvage what remains of a Friday night. She sounds tired and uninterested but I ask her if she would like to get together tomorrow. “We will see” she says.

[Handycam72]

Love your TR alex, keep up the good work.  Its getting like drip fed a good book, just can't wait fot the next installments

It seems quite a few live 20km away and quite like the 400UAH for taxi. I met a couple more like that when I was in Odessa last November (I spent all of 30 minutes with them) . Did not meet any on my last visit though, I'm glad to say

[camachinist]

OP, thanks for the trip report. The picture of the opera house brings back a lot of good memories for me.

Your story so far confirms my instinct about hiring an independent interpreter and driver, which I did many years ago when traveling there. They kept me out of a lot of trouble and steered me towards people who turned out over time to be sincere and honorable. The terp was so good that the ladies and I could converse directly and fluidly and I'd hardly notice she was in the room. If you're comfortable with your independent terp, forget about the agencies and just go out with her and explore. You'll meet plenty of women out and about and trust me you stand out, even though there are many more westerners now than when I was in Odessa last. You'll have no problem meeting 'real' women. My terp called the professional daters 'models' with a bit of a snarl

Looking forward to reading the rest of the story. I hope it turns out well for you

[alex330]

Your story so far confirms my instinct about hiring an independent interpreter and driver, which I did many years ago when traveling there. They kept me out of a lot of trouble and steered me towards people who turned out over time to be sincere and honorable. The terp was so good that the ladies and I could converse directly and fluidly and I'd hardly notice she was in the room. If you're comfortable with your independent terp, forget about the agencies and just go out with her and explore. You'll meet plenty of women out and about and trust me you stand out, even though there are many more westerners now than when I was in Odessa last. You'll have no problem meeting 'real' women.

Exactly. I use a cab driver when traveling in latin America to explore at times. I know the language there and they turn out to be great adventures sometimes.
The interpreter I used in Odessa also does work as a personal assistant and tour guide. Guys, if you have not been to Odessa and need someone with great knowledge and who will make the trip a success I strongly recommend her. Local cuisine, knowledge, help, etc.

Yea, even though I was not wearing my flourescent yellow pants I stood out walking down the street and women turned heads as soon as English was heard. There are tons of "real" women out there to meet.

[BillyB]

I get a text an hour later from the agency interpreter telling me that Olga cannot see me tomorrow but would like to see me on Sunday. I tell her that is the wrong answer for a guy who has just traveled halfway around the world to see someone. She quickly replies that she will talk to Olga if she is not sleeping and try to patch things. I tell her to not worry about it and cut them both loose.

Good job. A lot of guys who do a VO will try to continue dating a woman like Olga hoping a relationship would eventually blossom after she opens up but most likely they never open up. The men invested time and money and won't easily give up.

It's safe to say you've been shafted in the a$$ by Anastasia. The woman you went to visit was nothing like the enthusiastic woman in the emails to you. If you don't mind saying, How much did it cost you in correspondence with just Olga? Did Anastasia force you to use their apartment or tour package too?

[alex330]

Good job. A lot of guys who do a VO will try to continue dating a woman like Olga hoping a relationship would eventually blossom after she opens up but most likely they never open up. The men invested time and money and won't easily give up.

It's safe to say you've been shafted in the a$$ by Anastasia. The woman you went to visit was nothing like the enthusiastic woman in the emails to you. If you don't mind saying, How much did it cost you in correspondence with just Olga? Did Anastasia force you to use their apartment or tour package too?

Thanks. I know when to cut my losses and this was one of those times.

Keep in mind that I met both women on the same site as the story continues  
But yes, Anastasia did end up costing me. I guess I spent about $600-700 with Olga alone on Anastasia? Flowers, chat, couple phone calls, letters?
Not a great return on my investment. I can really argue strong pros and cons to the site to be honest. Maybe I will start another thread on it one day.


I got my own apartment and handled everything independantly besides the one date with Olga. I have never been on a tour and would never do so.
I like to do things my way and alone. I need a little more excitement and am not into anything organized.

[alex330]

I get a text at 6 am the next morning from Tanya. She is in a great mood and wants to meet. She apologizes for waking me so early but I am excited and don't care. She comes over to my apartment a couple hours later and looks wonderful. I run out the apartment when she arrives and try to pay for her cab and she laughs and says I am weird as the cab drives off before I can reach him. We head to go get breakfast at a snug little cafe. We walk around holding hands and talking. It is a bit chilly but the sun is out and it is nice. There are many weddings taking place as it is Saturday and Tanya shows me around. We go to the store together and pick up a bottle of champagne and some local cheese and head down to Arcadia Beach. We spend the rest of the day on the beach sipping mimosas and laughing and talking. It is very enjoyable and I feel like I am a kid again.  Her English is getting better by the day. She tells me she studied it in the University and just does not use it as often as she'd like. The day is coming to a close and we decide to leave. We take separate cabs as our accommodations are in opposite directions. I ask her if she wants cab money and she tell me no, but  something does not feel right with her response. I tell her I would like to pay for her cab ride and she smiles and accepts. It is the way you phrase things that seems to matter.

She deftly haggles over the price for a couple pirate cabs and I ask her if she would like to meet later that night. She nods her head back and forth. I am confused by this, but have found certain expressions are not the same. I go back to my apartment and take a nap and wake up that evening. I call and text her and get no answer. I do not want to waste my last full day in town so get online and begin to chat with other women and line up several tentative dates for the next day, but they all want me to use their own interpreters and my heart is not really in it. I like Tanya.

[alex330]

The next morning I wake up and I get a text again from Tanya. The champagne on the beach made her drowsy and she fell asleep early. She wants to get together. I tell her I am going to lunch with my interpreter and she can meet us out.
She needs a bit to get ready anyways. We run off to a restaurant run by a restaurateur from Moscow called Dacha. It is an old house that was a retreat for some high level Soviet official years ago. It resembles a southern plantation home in some ways. The tables are outside in the gardens and we sit out there with blankets as it is a bit chilly.  I have braised rabbit in cream sauce, smoked herring pate and a napoleon for dessert. We are there for bit and just finished eating when I feel a cold hand cover my eyes. I immediately recognize it is the same cold hand I have been holding the last couple days and turn to look at Tanya. She looks incredible and had managed squeeze in the salon right before she met me to do her hair. Her blonde mane looks incredible with highlights and pink streaks. She has red patent leather boots, white and black leopard print pants and a black jacket with more straps and zippers than
Michael Jacksons closet. The outfit may not fly over here but she looks amazing. I smile and realize I have my Ukrainian girl. She sits down and my interpreter leaves us alone. We spend the afternoon sitting under the blankets talking and enjoying each others company.

She is into extreme camping and sports and loves the outdoors. I find out she studied English in college and even had planned on being an interpreter. We have so much in common and I wonder why I was such an idiot to fall for the other girl and not devote more attention to Tanya from the start. We walk down the street after she eats and she shows me a park by the Black Sea where she took her profile pictures. There are tulips coming out of the ground everywhere, birds are singing and spring is here.  

She hails a ride and haggles over a price to get us over to a pool hall and we play a few games of pool. We are both in a good mood and go downstairs to a hole in the wall where a family is celebrating a birthday. There is a live Ukrainian singer who is quite good and singing Russian love ballads. We dance slowly to love songs in the dim light. We close the place and walk back to my apartment to become better acquainted with each other.

[SomeGuy]

This is a very interesting beginning of the story about an innocent WOVO male transforming into sex tourist with the kindest help of local people, surrounding him
And a biggest mistake of that "ONE''woman , who didn't meet , accompany and organize all the stuff for him..

[SomeGuy]

Alex,

A great Trip Report, I'm looking forward to the rest of it.

[alex330]

Tanya ends up missing the next day at work as it is my last day in town and we go grab some breakfast again together. We walk around in the park and both have become quite close in a short amount of time. She takes me to the public park and shows me a statue dedicated to Odessa, the city of love. I wonder how many hearts have been broken and how much disillusionment there has really been here though. Throngs of foreign men looking for something they will probably not find here in reality. We walk back to my apartment and check out. I do end up getting my hundred dollar deposit  back and am asked to return with a warm smile. I leave Tanya a small gift and she thanks me.

I say farewell to my interpreter and Tanya escorts me back to the airport.  She comes inside with me and stays right up until the plane leaves. She is genuine and the type of woman you can only hope for. Our time together was much too short.
We trade personal info and plan to talk via skype.  I tell her I would love to see her again and we could plan on a mutual place to meet in between at some point. “We will see” she says with a smile. She has a cousin living in the US so it may be easier for her to get a VISA. She asked me if I could wait for her and we had several deep discussions about relationships. Her knowing English really makes a difference here I am sure. I wonder how many men and women put all their effort, time and money into something like this only to have it fail down the line? We both realize many things can happen in a short period of time and decide to take it slow and find out where the path leads. We will see. We will see  

[Gator]

We will see. We will see 

The same words have been spoken to me, and each time the woman was hoping it would happen, yet did not want to make a promise because so much has to fall in place beforehand.  It reflects a pessimistic mentality commonplace among FSUW that 1) something is too good to be true and 2) if they have a premature celebration, it for sure will not happen.

[Gator]

I wonder why I was such an idiot to fall for the other girl and not devote more attention to Tanya from the start.

A mistake frequently made, so don't worry about it.  You quickly recognized the mistake, and that is the important fact. 

Although Tanya is a pretty woman, could it be that Olga looked absolutely gorgeous in her profile photos?  Or had bigger breasts? 

Olga could have lavished you with attention and touches as part of milking you in a prodater game; however, she did not.  She simply made an "appearance" after being the magnet that took $600-700 of your money, never thinking you would actually make a trip.  I have heard of other Anastasia victims never meeting the woman of their dreams because "babushka is sick" or some other lame excuse.  Maybe the new Anastasia agency requires their storefront girls to make an appearance.

[alex330]

The same words have been spoken to me, and each time the woman was hoping it would happen, yet did not want to make a promise because so much has to fall in place beforehand.  It reflects a pessimistic mentality commonplace among FSUW that something is too good to be true.

I can only wonder how many of the women's lives have been ruined, how many have been led on by dishonest men and how many hopes and dreams may have been shattered on both sides.
The look in her eyes when we were together I will never forget. You are so right, she does not want to set herself up for disappointment.

[alex330]

Although Tanya is a pretty woman, could it be that Olga looked absolutely gorgeous in her profile photos?  Or had bigger breasts? 

Olga could have lavished you with attention and touches as part of milking you in a prodater game; however, she did not.  She simply made an "appearance" after being the magnet that took $600-700 of your money, never thinking you would actually make a trip.  I have heard of other Anastasia victims never meeting the woman of their dreams because "babushka is sick" or some other lame excuse.  Maybe the new Anastasia agency requires their storefront girls to make an appearance.

Ah, both women are very good looking. Tanya is much more beautiful now though.

Yes, I think there may be new rules that force them to appear for some reason. Heck, for all I know she could have been real and was just shy and forgetful. So many different possibilities it boggles the mind.
Too much to sift through to find out though.

[Maniac999]

  What did you tell Tanya about your other date?What was her reaction?
 Great TR so far

[alex330]

  What did you tell Tanya about your other date?What was her reaction?
 Great TR so far

Another great question. Tanya asked me how it went the next day. I was honest and told her it did not go well. I am always VERY honest and sometimes the truth hurts. She kept prodding me for specifics which was odd. She laughed and told me she writes all her own letters.

My interpreter also asked me at lunch on Sunday if Tanya had wanted to know about the date. I told her yes, and she smiled and said that it probably made her very happy it turned out like that.

[Maniac999]

What is the age of participants of the story?
and also of the stuff ( approx) -terpr, etc ???( just trying to avoid the questions about the boobs size)

[alex330]

What is the age of participants of the story?
and also of the stuff ( approx) -terpr, etc ???( just trying to avoid the questions about the boobs size)

I am 37 years old and the girls were 23 and 24. This age difference is very normal here in South Florida. My interpreter was 30 and the agency interpreter early twenties.
Tanya has dated men that have come to see her to almost 50 she said. With that age difference it is hard to click though.
I would be very interested in a thorough breakdown of stats on marriages to FSU women to be honest. I think many that do not work out may be guys dating out of their league in some way or another.

Lookwise I date similar women here in the US.

Boob size in the Ukraine did not seem very large, but I live in the land of Silicon here in Florida.
For me it is all about a great face. A nice ass helps as well.

Apartment was $100 a night. Great location. Food was very reasonable and good. Entire trip was affordable. Not a lot to spend money on unless you are shopping for jewelry and fur coats I think.

[Maniac999]

and dresses for weddings too:-)))
what was the cost of the trip (approx) , how long have u been in there?

[Makkin]

   Enjoyed your trip report and wish you all the best.


Makkin