Life Changes...Part Deux

[Mir]

Naw it is nothing like that.
The girls while walking in the street just fall down on the ground. Their legs are up in the air and are twitching uncontrollably while they moan is ecstasy.
I thought It was some sort of epilepsy but now I know better, it is not epilepsy, it is Billy B!

[Sculpto]

hahha

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[GQBlues]

LOL.

My putter was having an orgasm this morning...LOL!   (Maybe Dan have a better emoticon than this, but this is the closest one I can get for now)

This discussion reminded me of movie scene.

Ukraine's new

[Maniac999]

  Contrary to you, gentlemen, Billy is not a laughter, he is a doier.
 While you are sitting over here , he is busy with more important stuff ...
 Billy, please, come back with your very entertaining story !
Bill, sexy, brave Manly Man , we are waiting for you here!

[Gator]

What is each woman about to experience?

From a Mayo Clinic study.

I have no idea.  Giving birth and the baby's head is crowning?  That is an amazing moment.  I thought I would have to catch our son.

Mind you, I have not made a personal study of this, and I am usually busy doing something when women have an orgasm.   My experience is that a woman in orgasm seems less contorted than most of these photos, although some photos have that look of fulfilling yet startled serenity I have seen in the most sensual women during and just after orgasms.  Every woman is different, and in addition the specific woman can vary over time.

This is just another example of how difficult it is to read women.  The same with most everything else, men are easy!  When we get hungry, feed us.

OTOH, "Women might be able to fake orgasms. But men can fake a whole relationship." - Sharon Stone

[Daveman]

Well, agree, disagree, like it, hate it, indifferent..  I predict this thread will become legendary around these parts...

[erudite]

I think it got in the wrong hole. 

[BC]

Probably not a study at all..

http://beautifulagony.com/public/main.php

[Jack]

I have been in Kiev for a week but only read this thread today.
Since I have landed I have been seeing young girls in the 18-23 age group to be orgasming uncontrollably in public all over the city centre.

Where are these girls?   Damn, I'm in the center!

(ps Mir, first three rounds are on me)


 

Contrary to you, gentlemen, Billy is not a laughter, he is a doier.
 While you are sitting over here , he is busy with more important stuff ...
 

Noo, I'm a doier Maniac,  I'm looking, even listening, for these girls. 

Naw it is nothing like that.
The girls while walking in the street just fall down on the ground. Their legs are up in the air and are twitching uncontrollably while they moan is ecstasy.

Damn I miss out on all the fun.      First the lesbians and homeless people of St. Pete.       Now this.   Damn, Damn, Damn!

[kievstar]

I was just in Kiev and missed these girls as well.  They must be hanging out where they moved all the beer drinkers who used to hang out in city center until law was inforced. 

[Jack]

 
Well, I went to look for some of these girls Billy had left behind. For a minute I thought I found them, or at least a few of them.

But now I think these girls were just part of the disco performance today on Khershaytk.

[ML]

What are those first 3 girls doing with their hands?

[Admin]

What are those first 3 girls doing with their hands?

Seems to be a fad among female singers - Madonna, Rihanna, and even Miley Cyrus, so these gals are mimicking the celebs. I don't find it titillating, but apparently enough do that it motivates more celebs and wannabees to persist in the practice.

- Dan

[Daveman]

What are those first 3 girls doing with their hands?

Looks like an inopportune lice infestation.

Seems to be a fad among female singers - Madonna, Rihanna, and even Miley Cyrus, so these gals are mimicking the celebs. I don't find it titillating, but apparently enough do that it motivates more celebs and wannabees to persist in the practice.

- Dan

Yeah, amazing how that propagates... 

[Gator]

What are those first 3 girls doing with their hands?

If they were boys, I say they were doing the "peepee" dance.

[I hope that passes the censorship board.  My comment about anal sex was erased.]

[Jack]

 I was embarrassed.

[BillyB]

How about education, possible career, the prospect of reach and interesting life, dating young goodlooking men........and all the others pleasures that people enjoy when they are young and free?!

Velena, if orgasms weren't on your mind so much, you might remember earlier I said that I won't visit a RW overseas unless we talk about life goals which can include education, career and babies. How about letting a guy enjoy being in the presence of a beautiful lady for the first 3 days without having to talk about education, career, babies and a k-1 visa?

Why would such a young bright thing from a good family of educated parents would want to marry  a much older american man.

Ask the ladies who communicate with and date me why they like me. If you were attracted to and went on a first date with me, you might just want to come back for more. I seen your profile on the internet. There are millions of women and men on the internet too but why can't women quickly find a good man? It's not easy so you're basically competing for the same few quality men left out there. I do not need to outrun a bear to survive, I just need to outrun the other guy. I know I can outperform the other guys and my competition is weak. I know my worth. I see the reactions of the ladies I date and I know I have a 2nd date with them before even asking.

If you were on a date with me, you'd realize I would care about you and be attentive. I'd make sure you have enough to eat and drink. I will open doors for you and offer my hand when you are leaving a vehicle. I will offer my arm when walking down the street with you. You will feel comfortable and protected when you are with me. I have good manners, don't stress under most conditions, and treat people around me with respect. You'd get the impression that I can be a devoted husband and father if I'd enter into a relationship with you. You would not be pressured for sex and think I'm a desperate pervert but you will know that I'm physically attracted to you. You will find I'm easy to talk to as many women do. Some women talk to me openly on a first date as if I've been a friend of theirs for a long time. I don't talk about myself. Talking about myself will only get people to hate me as evident in this thread. I don't make a lot of jokes but I know how to laugh. I don't talk much but when I do talk, something good comes out of my mouth. Something intelligent and wise comes out. IMO wisdom is much more important than intelligence and is crucial to decision making. I know a rocket scientist who got his name in the newpaper a number of times but he's a complete idiot in life and around women. He makes a lot of bad decisions around women that usually gets him in the doghouse or dumped. One may be intelligent enough to know fire is hot but will touch the fire anyway because he lacks wisdom. I'm sure there are a lot of smart guys that know their business when it comes to their job but when dealing with women, they are clumsy.

Velena, if you would have me as a lover, you will find I'm not like the average man who lasts a few minutes and you'd be disappointed. I have stamina and you will achieve your daily orgasm if not multiple. Maybe we are not compatible and you wouldn't want me for a husband but you may retain me as a friend or a lover for a short term relationship until you find the man that you could live all life with. I get along with a lot of ladies with opposite views on life and politics but I couldn't live in the same house with them long term.

I'm a very likeable guy even to people that went separate ways with me. After my separation from my ex wife and based off her bad experiences with the eligible single men on the market, she tried hard to get back with me and made a bold move to do so. She came to my mother's house when I was there and my mother let her in. The ex wanted to talk private so we went to a room. She was telling me how she realizes I'm a better guy than the others and she will change for me. My mom opened the door and said “Oh! Sorry!” and closed the door about the time my ex was on her knees and unzipping my pants. I was embarrassed but the ex looked up and gave me the kind of smile that said she was not afraid to perform a wife's duty for her husband in front of anybody. I was not going to get back with her or use her for sex so for those who are curious, she did not get past my zipper. Although sex is important to me, I won't use a woman for sex if I can't promise her what she wants. A few months ago I had to break off my friendship with a nympho since she became jealous/possessive and wanted a serious relationship with me although I didn't have any feelings for her above the belt. Cooking was another thing she did well.

Velena, you seem to be a strong woman that would be perfect for me. With only one hand you could push my wheelchair and with the other hand wipe the sweat off my face and rub your fingers through my hair and bald spot. My wheelchair is a Tiger Woods signature edition and with it's sleek sporty design, it makes me look younger than I actually am.

 

oh and by day three, without a kiss from daughter

Sure blows the 'if she's in to you' concept

Did my last post go over your guys heads? Does anyone else think A is not into me? I did not expect anybody to not understand how powerful that talk was. Let me put in simple terms. Mom basically said she wasn't thrilled with me meeting her daughter at first but now think I'm a wonderful man and welcomes me to the family. She tells me how the family is to operate in the bedroom and my and her daughters tasks to make each other happy. Isn't that better than a kiss? Just because there hasn't been any kissing in front of mom doesn't mean there hasn't been any kissing. During our talk mom actually questioned my ability to kiss her daughter.

As I mentioned earlier, walk, don't run when chasing women. If things are headed to the bedroom, it'll happen. Many of you guys with the "get all you can as fast as you can" attitude may end up getting nothing when you scare the lady away. Don't go grabbing for her breasts too quick. A is slow and inexperience and I treat her like I treat most women, with respect and go at their pace as long as they are going in the direction I'm going.

When mom and A isn't around me, it's obvious they talk about me and mom knows her daughter's feelings for me very well to have that talk with me. Mom knows where this is headed if I want A. A has already made her decision.

giving him advice to cheat on her daughter,regularly, 3 times a week minimum

Cheat? How do you know she wanted me to do that? Don't be naive and to think you guys were so hard on me with my secret profile to double check a woman if she makes a commitment to me. It certainly crossed my mind that was said so mom could see my reaction and if I looked thrilled and accepted the offer, it could have meant my doom. There is no question that doctor mom thinks sex is healthy and critical to a successful relationship but she is also looking out for A's welfare and what she told me could have been a test on fidelity.

I would wager that momma is a year or two younger than Billy: daughter is 18, if momma had her when she was 20 or 21, that would make momma 38 or 39, while Billy is 40

Misha, you are on my crap list so I'm putting you on a need to know basis and at this time, you do not need to know. But I will tell everyone else mom is 7 years older than I and I get along fine with older ladies.

Why is age so important to some of you? Even if mom was younger, who of any importance here cares if those who matter are happy? I'm happy, A's happy and mom's happy. We don't feel uncomfortable when we walk down the street hand in hand so why should you? When people are happy all the stereotypes and other people's opinions go out the window. As I sat on the benches along the sidewalks of Khreschatyk street, every few minutes I'd see a couple hand in hand walk by that would be socially mismatched by most people's standards. Tall girl with short guy. Beautiful woman with ugly guy. Poorly dressed man with sharp dressed woman. Old guy with young woman. I found myself the only one looking but unlike most of you, I wondered what great qualities that man possessed when the younger, better dressed, and handsome men are alone without a woman. Those guys are probably spending their last dime getting drunk everyday with other idiots, having no real commitments, no responsibilities, no job, no goals and you guys here think those guys are better suited for family oriented women than I? I can outperform most young men when it comes to catching women and I can attract women in their age bracket, my age bracket and my father's age bracket.

Billy,  Do you get to spend much time with this girl alone--without Mom?

Not as much alone time as I would like but being the gentleman, my offer to invite mom anywhere anytime is open. Most guys going to the FSU may have limited or no time seeing their lady interact with family and friends but I get to see a lot of interaction and that is more important for me to see than how a woman acts with me. As evident of the current discussions about in laws and their behavior, it's an important thing to figure out. A's mom likes me a lot and thinks I'm a fine catch for her daughter. After the talk a few days later she says "I now have two babies" to her friend and when greeting mom and saying goodbye, the kisses from her are now on the lips. There is nothing sexual about kisses on the lips between close friends and family when meeting and saying goodbye.

What happened to the 18 year old you met in the restaurant who looked like the girl in the video commercial?  I thought that was the one you were going to meet.

That girl was actually 19. Lets get the facts straight since age is important to some people around here. We met in a cafe 3 visits to Kiev ago. I met her 2 visits ago and was going to meet her for a 3rd but her parents didn't want to meet me and tore into her hard. Maybe they didn't like my age or the fact I'm not 100% Caucasian or that I live half way across the world and their daughter and future grandchildren would be out of site. Regardless of the reasons I'm not going to get involved with potentially hostile in laws. I'm sure she liked me because she fed me a lot with her own fork. I like being pampered. Too bad the parents didn't want to meet me.

I went to look for some of these girls Billy had left behind. For a minute I thought I found them, or at least a few of them.

I left a few girls behind in Kiev. I can't win them all because I was there for only 5 days and then headed West. I'll continue the Manly Man adventure in my next post.

Some of you may think there is too much information posted. I won't tell you everything that happened at home and in Ukraine but I will tell you that it's more eye popping and orgasmic than my last post.

When I started this thread months ago, I didn't know where I was going to finish but I did know that wherever I'm going, I'm going to be successful and have fun whether I made friends, entered into a short or long term relationship or marriage. It was safe for me to create this thread because I knew I would never announce failure or train wreck. Some guys have a bad experience with a RW or scammer, get demoralized and give up forever.

Months ago I didn't know what I'd be posting today. Months ago I'd bet you today I'd be with a J-1 work visa girl who was coming to stay with me. Maybe I would have reported it worked out and we're getting married or it didn't work out since she filed domestic violence charges against me and I'd tell you about my new heart shaped tattoo that said "I love Bubba" after I got out of jail. But as chance and circumstances have it, I went to Ukraine.

Some of you may never understand why I'm being so open but newbies understand and they are certainly absorbing the info here. Many of those newbies just got out of a marriage or after a few years of practicing abstinence they want change. They forgot how to date, attract and interact with women. They can't distinguish the bad agencies from the good and can't get past a simple scam letter. They fall in love with a photo. They want that photo to be their wife yet they are too shy or lazy to pick up the phone and call her so they basically visit a stranger and think everything is going to turn out alright until she takes him on a shopping trip. They can't tell the insincere women from the sincere and don't know how to say “no” to a beautiful woman that is taking them shopping on a first date. If they can grow some balls and gain a little confidence and knowledge after reading this, they will benefit and the sincere women that are waiting for them will benefit. I didn't choose to visit the hottest looking woman that invited me but I chose the one that seemed most family oriented, into me and gave me everything I asked for in correspondence including some things I didn't ask for such as bikini pics.

Newbies need to understand it's not normal for RW to ask for $400 shoes and $700 coat on a first meeting. Most of my dates consist of a $30 dinner and a nice walk somewhere for entertainment. If a sincere woman respects the man, she will respect his money and enjoy his presence is enough for her. I have met 3 local RW that was willing to trade a physical relationship for money and gifts but they let me know that upfront instead of sneaking me into a store to buy them something. If I were a guy that couldn't catch a woman, then maybe I'd rent or buy one but that shouldn't be necessary for any man if he'd fix himself up a little. Millions of single women out there and not enough quality men to go around. Quality women are in short supply too so don't settle for less to marry because you'll probably get less. The most important thing a guy needs to realize is that the reaction they get from women will depend on the man they are.

If I continue this thread forever without getting married, I'm sure every year I'd find about 5 new women who'd marry me if I'd ask and plenty of friends. I'd have more interesting experiences to share. Since I started this thread, I've made many new contacts at home that includes women that are not from the FSU that I haven't spoken about. I'm not going to marry just any woman but I'm open to marriage. I need to find a special high quality women like my ex fiancee for me to commit. I think I found one special and high quality woman. and she happens to be 18 yo. Some of the older ladies question what that young lady has over them so I understand much of their reactions here. In correspondence she is very polite and she values my every letter and phone calls. Most of her talk is about family oriented things, not about music, going to the disco or getting drunk and partying. She has other good qualities too which I will speak of later. I knew she was not going to run my wallet dry in Ukraine and she would do her best to take care of me but since she's so into me it's making her stress out since she trying so hard to make me happy and everything right. I will have a talk with her.

[acctBill]

I was embarrassed.

Jack I doubt that something this tame could embarrass you.    As Dan mentioned their performances are no worse than a Madonna or Lady Gaga video.  In fact they are probably copying some routine from a recent music video.   

[BC]

Seems to be a fad among female singers - Madonna, Rihanna, and even Miley Cyrus, so these gals are mimicking the celebs. I don't find it titillating, but apparently enough do that it motivates more celebs and wannabees to persist in the practice.

- Dan

All started with MJ.. Or was it Elvis?

[Jumper]

Cheat? How do you know she wanted me to do that?

I did NOT say that I knew she wanted you to cheat?
you quoted me,out of context ,and even then  failed to read it?
Here is what i said:

giving him advice to cheat on her daughter,regularly, 3 times a week minimum

She gave you advice,  to cheat often and regularly..
and yes advising you ,is not necessarily wanting you to do so..

I might have hit my head a few times billyb, but  I certainly can still grasp and understand
such complex concepts as *mom*  could have been *testing* you,
 or she could have been serious,
or she could have been *hitting on* you.. you are manly man after all?

In no way did you indicate either direction..
and it makes no difference either way to what i was actually commenting on.

My amazement was the odds of you,in particular , picking out a girl whose mother would be so open about the  topic of sex in 3 days,about her own sex life, and daughters possible sex life with you,
and as a I stated already , it is not unheard of..  but it is unusual.
Granted your whole situation in this case was unusual, so this maybe fits in.
It certainly is not most mens (quality or not) romantic  experience in the FSU.

[Velena]

Hey Billy! You sound great as always. There is one think we seem to have in common, with such a huge choice of potential partners we both are still single. or......are you still? Did the young beauty steal your heart?

[oldernotwiser]

Billy

I don't agree with most of what you write, however I will concede that on occasion you make a few valid points.  Mostly just read here, don't post that much, however, was compelled to write this time, don't know why.  I just have a problem with what you posted about your ex.  Many of the guys on this board have been through a divorce, so probably many stories could be told.  You state that you consider yourself a gentlemen, and a step above the rest of us.  I don't see how sharing info like this equates with being a classy guy and a gentlemen.  I just can't imagine sharing this type of information on a public forum.

I'm a very likeable guy even to people that went separate ways with me. After my separation from my ex wife and based off her bad experiences with the eligible single men on the market, she tried hard to get back with me and made a bold move to do so. She came to my mother's house when I was there and my mother let her in. The ex wanted to talk private so we went to a room. She was telling me how she realizes I'm a better guy than the others and she will change for me. My mom opened the door and said “Oh! Sorry!” and closed the door about the time my ex was on her knees and unzipping my pants. I was embarrassed but the ex looked up and gave me the kind of smile that said she was not afraid to perform a wife's duty for her husband in front of anybody. I was not going to get back with her or use her for sex so for those who are curious, she did not get past my zipper.

I believe you mentioned you were being open because you want to teach newbies how to behave.  Still don't see how mentioning that would help a newbie.  And just who are you tryig to impress with this?

Velena, if you would have me as a lover, you will find I'm not like the average man who lasts a few minutes and you'd be disappointed. I have stamina and you will achieve your daily orgasm if not multiple. Maybe we are not compatible and you wouldn't want me for a husband but you may retain me as a friend or a lover for a short term relationship until you find the man that you could live all life with.

OK, admittedly trash talk is common on the internet, but I cannot remember reading anything like that on the forum before, who says that??

[Jumper]

All started with MJ.. Or was it Elvis?

Elvis?
this thread  was thinking more Gary Puckett   :evil:

[groovlstk]

Someone in Hollywood is going to pick this up as a script and make an updated version of Dolomite.

[GQBlues]

Someone in Hollywood is going to pick this up as a script and make an updated version of Dolomite.

Did you mean , groov?