Life Changes...Part Deux

[BC]

The truth is that Columbus was bitter and enraged the rest of his life if anyone even suggested that he hadn't landed in India.  He had failed and even though everyone now knew what he discovered, he could never admit it even to himself.

Q.E.D.

Well he did find 'Indians'... or? LOL

The difference is that everyone knows women are not flat, but are unpredictable?

Maybe Columbus started this whole MOB thing?

[mies]

Extend that to relationships and take for example disaster stories we've read on this board, where a push over guy is treated like a mule by a wife who is insulting and rude (or worse) to him. This same woman can cheat with a different guy who is not a push over and she will treat this lover with kindness.

I think you are confusing the reasons. The push-over guy is usually different from "another guy" in more than one way. For example, he can be less attractive, or less talented in sex. He would not be a push-over with an unattractive, old, fat woman because he does not want to keep such woman, he can relatively easy get a woman like that but he doesn't want her. He will act as a push-over with a woman whom he cannot keep otherwise, the type of woman for whom he cannot find substitute easily. Whereas "the other guy" can have a bunch of women of a "preferred type" because of his characteristics (age, attractiveness, skills, income etc).
 
Woman too, can be a b-tch with a guy who isn't interesting/attractive to her, but be a push-over with a guy whom she wants badly.

But to make an assumption that if the guy acts like b-tch, this automatically makes him very attractive for any woman and she completely submits to him - that's an overstatement.

[brian131]

I don't think that's what he's saying at all. What he is describing is very common.
 
Take for example a hot chick that goes to night clubs. If some dorky guy approaches her with a cheesy pick up line, likely she'll reject him and act like a 'stuck up bitch'. A charismatic guy approaches her and he gets a very different reaction.
 
Extend that to relationships and take for example disaster stories we've read on this board, where a push over guy is treated like a mule by a wife who is insulting and rude (or worse) to him. This same woman can cheat with a different guy who is not a push over and she will treat this lover with kindness.

You have a point, but I think this is not what Billy was saying.  Billy very specifically mentions the mafia guys.  What you are talking about is how different relationships evolve out of the two personalities involved which is a valid point.  Billy is specifically talking about strength...read the rest of what he wrote in the quoted passage...or anything else he has written for that matter.  He's talking about how a strong man can make his woman into anything he wants.

The funny thing is, that A should have a ton of potential suitors.  When he was 'selected the winner', 'easy to control' would have been a big factor if she/they are using him.  Of course A could just be a typical High School girl dreaming of life and sex with a middle aged man...

[BC]

  Billy is specifically talking about strength...read the rest of what he wrote in the quoted passage...or anything else he has written for that matter.  He's talking about how a strong man can make his woman into anything he wants.

It's not surprising then that he resorted to a young, gullible girl to marry in hopes for  malleability and a dependent lifestyle.

He compliments women here having more balls than the men .. so be it I say.  There are women here that would have peaked my interest had circumstances been otherwise.

Maybe afraid of women that can stand on their own?  After all there are hundreds of women that would marry him.. or?  None were worth it including another 'perfect' woman a few years back?

I dunno... 1 + 1 does  = 2 or is it all just doublespeak?

[Misha]

He's talking about how a strong man can make his woman into anything he wants.

This, IMHO, is false and delusional. A man doesn't make a woman any more than a woman can change a man. The only times it happens or when there is the illusion that it is happening is when somebody is playing a role, putting on a facade to get what they want (a mule to a better life for example) or when they are so desperate for love and attention that they will accept anything and do anything simply to please....

[MarkLeftTX]

I don't think that's what he's saying at all. What he is describing is very common.

Really? Because it looks to me that this is exactly what he is saying...

Early in this thread I mentioned a woman behaves according to the man she's with..
Do you think mafia types or strong men have problems with their women controlling them? No... They make all the right decisions. Their women are happy...

Interesting that he compares himself and his approach to that of a Russian Mafia guy, don't you think? I guess there are women who want to be with such a guy... I just wouldn't want to be with such a woman...

This same woman can cheat with a different guy who is not a push over and she will treat this lover with kindness.

I don't know, and I don't care. You are discussing a woman who is cheating on her husband with another man? What do I care how she treats her secret lover?  Such a woman I want nothing to do with... I don't understand your point...???


I don't want to get into discussions about what a woman of bad character might do. Who knows why she does what she does? But to blame her husband is overly simplistic.

[A Woman] behaves different towards men based on how they act and how much or little she respects them.

[SARCASM] Well, that's a news flash, isn't it? You mean to tell me that women behave differently depending on how they are treated by the man she is with? [/SARCASM]

 
Of course they do! So do I. So does my dog. So does anyone! My point is not that women are always the same no matter who they are with, but rather that being an authoritarian does not mean you will end up with some meek and submissive wife.


The woman gets a vote in the relationship. It isn't simply a matter of how the man behaves. She has expectations and wants and needs and she will express these one way or the other. If you are so insecure as an individual that you must be the boss no matter what, good luck finding someone who wants to put up with you for the rest of you life.


But, maybe the OP is not interested in a long term marriage? I can't tell, to be honest... And, if you are looking for a young and inexperienced young hottie that you can exploit for as long as you can pull it off -- until she finally leaves you (after getting her green card, citizenship, college degree, and a good chunk of your belongings) and you are OK because of all of "the good times you had" well, that's fine, I guess. You won't be the first, I can assure you...


That's just not what I was looking for when I sought out a wife -- what, ten years ago now? -- And if I treated my wife like a Russian Mafia made man, I would have been single years ago...

[Jooky]

I don't understand your point...???

Point is, the gist of what he's saying is right. Even you agree when it's phrased slightly different...
 

[SARCASM] Well, that's a news flash, isn't it? You mean to tell me that women behave differently depending on how they are treated by the man she is with? [/SARCASM]

Interesting that he compares himself and his approach to that of a Russian Mafia guy, don't you think?

Not really. On the one hand it fits well with what he's saying. The 'mafia chick' is the type that would walk all over a meek guy but treat a tough guy with respect. That doesn't mean she has no personality or morphs to her man. It's about behaviour.
 
On the other hand, the 'mafia chick' is a bad example. I wouldn't want to be with such a woman either and I wouldn't be near a woman of bad character. That doesn't mean they don't exist. Mafia dudes in Russia don't exactly go lonely at night.
 

being an authoritarian does not mean you will end up with some meek and submissive wife.

I agree, and...
 

And if I treated my wife like a Russian Mafia made man, I would have been single years ago...

No doubt. You married a different type of woman than Billy's gal.
 
However, I'm sure you're not a push over either and behave in a confident and 'strong' manner, which is the gist of what he's saying.
 
About being 'the leader', I haven't read every post in this thread. It's way too long, but I did read bits where Billy talks about his discussions with his fiancee. Seems to me he wants to be a leader and she wants him to take that role. That's alright by me.
 
 

[Jooky]

I think you are confusing the reasons.

Nope. I completely agree with what you're saying. The push-over guy does usually have reasons for his lack of confidence.
 
You're right too, that same guy may be more confident with a less attractive woman (and thus have a more successful relationship with her).
 

He will act as a push-over with a woman whom he cannot keep otherwise, the type of woman for whom he cannot find substitute easily.

Absolutely. It's a mistake a lot of men make, and there are women that will take advantage of such men.
 

Whereas "the other guy" can have a bunch of women of a "preferred type" because of his characteristics (age, attractiveness, skills, income etc).

Well, that's what's interesting to me. Is it the characteristics, or is it the confidence that usually comes attached? I think it's both, but primarily the confidence. I've known young, handsome, intelligent and successful men with low confidence that often failed attracting women, while confident men with much less 'attractive qualities' did well. Just an observation. 

Woman too, can be a b-tch with a guy who isn't interesting/attractive to her, but be a push-over with a guy whom she wants badly.

Yes, and that's what Billy was saying.

But to make an assumption that if the guy acts like b-tch, this automatically makes him very attractive for any woman and she completely submits to him - that's an overstatement.

I didn't and wouldn't make that assumption. Some people do think that being a 'dickhead' attracts women. I disagree. 'Dickheads' tend to be cocky and confident and that does attract women, but a confident man who is pleasant will do just as well. Confidence is key.

[brian131]

The woman gets a vote in the relationship. It isn't simply a matter of how the man behaves. She has expectations and wants and needs and she will express these one way or the other. If you are so insecure as an individual that you must be the boss no matter what, good luck finding someone who wants to put up with you for the rest of you life.

I've seen as a general rule that if the man has much overt power, the woman compensates with covert power.  There are unhealthy relationships where there is no balance of power, but in general even the stereotype 'submissive Asian wife' gets her say.  In the cases where the man makes all of the decisions, the woman usually convinces him of what decisions to make.

Men tend to have much simpler wants and needs than women, and women are not dumb.  The result is that women are much better at controlling men than men are at controlling women.  As far as happiness goes, I'd much rather have a smart, independant women who  tells me when I'm f@#$ing up than a submissive woman constantly manipulating me.  Plus, I've got no use for a woman that doesn't respect herself enough to be a bi-atch when necessary.

Also...Insecure 'macho' men are very easy for any woman to manipulate.

[GQBlues]

There are men who talk about it and men who are simply natural at it. "When you take away the worry, it's easy to enjoy the ride..."
 

[BillyB]

Now I've had a chance to catch up on reading the last few pages, I'll address a few concerns.
 
For those of you who worry I contact young girls, I'm willing to bet I'm less perverted than you are. It's one of the reasons I can attract those and all women and you can't.
 
Some here think A is going to be a victim. Strange to hear that considering some of you thought I was going to be a victim of a scam. Most all of you have been divorced? Are you victims? Life goes on and if someday A and I divorce, I'm sure she has the ability to find a great guy and I have the ability to find a woman that will blow your mind away. It ain't that hard for me to get back up after falling.
 
I've dated a lot of RW after they divorce their American or Russian husbands. I like to think I'm the go 2 guy when a woman wants to move up. I hope you guys think you're a winner too. If not, make some adjustments.
 
Some of you talk about her exceptional beauty but if she has a serious flaw, I can replace her easily with another beautiful woman.  As of now I don't want to lose A  because I know she is a wonderful woman and I will take good care of her while she's with me. I believe her when she tells me she will welcome me home everyday with a kiss and hug. She values the man who works to take care of her.
 

I have found that people who are honest with themselves and others are the most often the happiest.
 

Right on. I have no problem telling my story because I have nothing to be ashamed of and I'm very happy.
 
Right here in America I can get a date everyday and I did. I can date two women in the same day and I did. I can have sex everyday if I wanted to but I didn't because that is not my goal.
 
Some people don't approve of my message. I don't think they understand my message. I'm not promoting men to look for young and/or beautiful women but family oriented women who have great personalities and character. One way to catch those women is to improve oneself. Anybody disagree? Any man who is not getting the results I'm getting need to re-evaluate the way you communicate and behave around women.
 
Some think I got to be married to talk results. I could've been married many times. Every woman that was in a relationship with me, long term or marriage wanted me back and was crying when asking me to take them back. Marriage is not success. Being happy in marriage is. I am happier as a single man more than most men who are married. I will be even happier when I'm married. Being happier married over being single can only be accomplished with a good woman.
 

In any way I think Billy is the most clever man in this thread. At least he is getting the girl.

Thank you Ranetka. I don't expect everyone to understand how I do it but I get the girl and I can continue to keep getting the girl. I don't feel the same pain as other men during breakups because I know I will never be alone.
 
Some of you may not understand how difficult it is to start a thread like this. Any man or woman is free to start talking about their dating life and end up with a man or woman that will blow people away. Not only do I have confidence, I know I can do it.
 
I don't think A is out of my league. I know what I have to offer women and it is appealing to them. Good manners/behavior, intelligence, tolerance, kindness, strength, gentleness, and good temperment. That is one of the secrets to my success. It doesn't matter if some of the ladies here don't like me, my way of thinking or the way I think a man and woman should behave in marriage. I only need to win over 10% of the ladies and I'm a very busy man.
 
Results is all that matters. Throw whatever you want at me but if you're not happily talking about your own results because the truth hurts, then you got bigger issues than I. If a guy or gal wants to beat me, don't put me down, they can start talking about their life putting it next to mine and let others judge. I said earlier more and more men are going to want what I'm having as I talk about A's behavior and character. Considering the amount of men who are unsure of the woman their in a relationship with or dating, they are probably happy to read and compare what I'm getting to what they're experiencing. This endeavor doesn't have to be a miserable experience for men or women.
 
A got the flu lately and she told me her mom is giving her injections. I didn't like it and told her injections in America are usually done for something more serious than the flu. A told me she understands things are done here differently and told me "I've learned a lot from mom and you will see how I take care of you when you're ill". I'm okay if she tucks me in bed, kisses me on the head, makes me soup but if she comes at me with a needle, I'm going to object!
 
As one can see from past photos, A likes to wear dresses and change her hair style a little. I asked her to promise me she'll keep her hair long, continue to wear dresses instead of tight jeans all the time and continue to wear fishnet stockings. She will grant me my wish.

[pitbull]

This will ruin my reputation, but I have to say this:
 
OMG, Billy!! A. is so beautiful I would do her. 

[Hammer2722]

This will ruin my reputation, but I have to say this:
 
OMG, Billy!! A. is so beautiful I would do her. 

ROTFL!!!!!!

[Jumper]

For those of you who worry I contact young girls, I'm willing to bet I'm less perverted than you are. It's one of the reasons I can attract those and all women and you can't.

ahh billy ..lol
  I never thought you were perverted,and have never had any problem attracting women. I simply thought a man of your age and success in business and with  so many women, would not want the type of  student /teacher relationship with a teenager that you decribe,at least  to base the start of a marriage on.
 I understand people are all different, they have different wants or needs in a relationship....(its your choice and A's) and i am glad you both found happiness and wish you the best.
 

 I have no problem telling my story because I have nothing to be ashamed of and I'm very happy.

Good!
 
 So recongnize  that others are equally happy ,and may share thier views and opinions.
 

Some people don't approve of my message. I don't think they understand my message. I'm not promoting men to look for young and/or beautiful women but family oriented women who have great personalities and character. One way to catch those women is to improve oneself. Anybody disagree? Any man who is not getting the results I'm getting need to re-evaluate the way you communicate and behave around women.

here is where the rubber meets the road..
your message is a good one ..
 
Concentrate on being the right person, instead of looking for the right person.. 
everything will work out naturally then.
 
IMHO, if they don't understand your message,it's  because it's often lost in all the other stuff....
 

Some think I got to be married to talk results. I could've been married many times. Every woman that was in a relationship with me, long term or marriage wanted me back and was crying when asking me to take them back. Marriage is not success. Being happy in marriage is. I am happier as a single man more than most men who are married. I will be even happier when I'm married. Being happier married over being single can only be accomplished with a good woman.

Sure,,,
 
 
 However ,I do think how you deliver the message leaves people scratching their heads though?
You've had the same ups, downs ,and failures as everyone else,
including a failed RW marriage and previous  K1.
 So in the context of RW , and the forum, in the big picture so far, its mostly hot air , and comes across that way despite the message itself being good.
 
Like RW tend to be , the forum looks at actions not words.
Where you stand today is some past long term failed relationships (like many have had)
Some local dating success..(like most have had)
one trip to see your fiancee, when you've had time to make more but simply  feel you do not  need to.
and a pending K1 with a teenager.. (and yes age in the context of life experience and maturity are generally going to play a factor in persceptions, in the forum ,or in life)
 

Thank you Ranetka. I don't expect everyone to understand how I do it but I get the girl and I can continue to keep getting the girl.

and other men here are all lonely? jealous , or are not in a relationship with a good woman  currently?
 
its jusrt funny and a weird implication billy,
and it colors your otherwise generally good message and advice.
 

 

Some of you may not understand how difficult it is to start a thread like this. Any man or woman is free to start talking about their dating life and end up with a man or woman that will blow people away.not only do I have confidence, I know I can do it.
 

Others have,can,  did, and have the T shirt.
and what? what exactly should they do?
 
post long detailed tales of their own lives to prove something?
 
never disagree with your advice?
some of it seems sane and normal to many here..
other bits of it seem quite odd!!!!
 
Many have outlined things they felt helped them in their search..
and like yourself some will agree with those thoughts, or disagree..
 

I don't think A is out of my league. I know what I have to offer women and it is appealing to them. Good manners/behavior, intelligence, tolerance, kindness, strength, gentleness, and good temperment. That is one of the secrets to my success. It doesn't matter if some of the ladies here don't like me, my way of thinking or the way I think a man and woman should behave in marriage. I only need to win over 10% of the ladies and I'm a very busy man.
 Results is all that matters. Throw whatever you want at me but if you're not happily talking about your own results because the truth hurts, then you got bigger issues than I. If a guy or gal wants to beat me, don't put me down, they can start talking about their life putting it next to mine and let others judge. I said earlier more and more men are going to want what I'm having as I talk about A's behavior and character. Considering the amount of men who are unsure of the woman their in a relationship with or dating, they are probably happy to read and compare what I'm getting to what they're experiencing. This endeavor doesn't have to be a miserable experience for men or women.
 

You ask for comparision, and state that you want input and people to be honest.
 Ok then,  I wouldn't want  the situation you are in.Certainly prefer my own, and yes its a more balanced relationship by  most any measure.I've also had a lot more face time and trips with her, more communication and shes currently here in my home.All starting at a later time than yourself, so while its certainly no race , lets not measure success by the fact you sent in some paperwork after meeting A with her mother for a week or two, or found a good prospect for you.
 
Does it ever occur to you that a reasonable percent  of the men and women here  feel their spouses  are absolutely the best?
 and are currently living in  the relationship  you aspire to?
 
In your statements  if they reply on a message board,  somehow they  can't be living fullfilling lives or be involved in happy quality relationships?
 
Me? I'm simply bored at work for several reasons,including injury limiting me to desk time currently , but really should anyone have to give some qualifier,
 or else be deemed by you *lonely, miserble, or desparate*?
That's just weird billy.
 
Again i feel your message gets distorted by your implications.
I do understand its intended for another audience, those who arn't currently succesful.
  Yet those men and women who are already successful have naturally commented in your thread as well, both agreeing and disagreeing with various aspects of your actions or beliefs on relationships,
it's the very nature of the forum and its real  value.
 
As BC posted earlier , this just goes around and around..
and the various opinions restated. 
 
You've chosen a self improvement attitude and general method of trying to be a quality individual  that has a lot of merit,,
yet a specific path that would be advised against in general.
 
so on to  50 more pages!!!     

[BC]

Jumper,

You hit the nail square on the head on all counts.

Not bad at all... Keep wearing that helmet!

[Jumper]

Jumper,

You hit the nail square on the head on all counts.

Not bad at all... Keep wearing that helmet!

 
Thanks, BC,
I have only a few lucid moments left I suppose..
 
 

[Lily]

 
As one can see from past photos, A likes to wear dresses and change her hair style a little. I asked her to promise me she'll keep her hair long, continue to wear dresses instead of tight jeans all the time and continue to wear fishnet stockings. She will grant me my wish.

Smart girl Fishnet stockings are great as they should be good even with a business suit and open toe shoes in summer. Make sure Billy that you get her a Wolford fishnet stay ups

[BillyB]

This will ruin my reputation, but I have to say this:
 
OMG, Billy!! A. is so beautiful I would do her. 

No surprise there. I always knew you were into homo play.     Actually your reputation will be fine and you may even turn on a few guys here. Society accepts sex between females much more than sex between males. The only thing that disappoints me is you would prefer A over me.   Maybe you would prefer both of us? Just send me your answer in a PM and I will be discreet about it. 
 
I posted the photo below just for your eyes only. Nobody else look. My next post and photos will be mind blowing. Stay tuned.
 

 However ,I do think how you deliver the message leaves people scratching their heads though?


 

How I deliver the message gets people scratching their heads?  Some people love this thead and the way I deliver it, Some people hate this thread....some hate it so much that they love to read it. My delivery has had an affect on you and some others but this isn't your world. Look around and see that some men and a high percent of the ladies aren't emotionally affected by what I say. I purposely delived some of my message strong to show you something about RW yet you failed to see....failed to see it's okay to be strong and still be respected and loved. 
 
I've always been polite to those polite with me even if they disagree. If someone tries to hurt my feelings, I will consider returning the favor and I've ignored some. If someone wants to take a cheap shot at me, I will grab them by the hair, drag them to the mirror so they can have a look at themself and remind them of something he or she said years ago so they understand they aren't so morally and ethically perfect. I'm not an instigator so if my message purposely comes across stong to certain people I directed it to, don't take it personally.
 

You've had the same ups, downs ,and failures as everyone else,


 

Let's see... BC, Kuna and one or two others in this thread pointed out I have been divorced to give everyone the impression I'm a failure. Why didn't you give that speach earlier to them?
 
I have not had the same ups, downs, and failures as everyone else though. I learn, grow and rarely make the same mistakes. My ex was beautiful but the ladies I find now are much better in character and personality. That is why I'm happy and post happy.
 
Jumper, you are trying too hard to say my life isn't much different than others. Some men keep running into scammers. Some men only date trailer trash. Some men find a lot of average women. Some men find no women. I find a lot of quality women. I'm not talking in youth and beauty but personality, heart, soul, and character. I do not picture A as a screaming maniac when upset. I do not picture her on a bad day starving her family by refusing to cook. I do not picture her spending money foolishly. I do not picture her taking more from life and people than she gives.
 
The women I run with are better than the other guys and whether or not dating or relationships with them last forever, my average day with women is a lot better than most guys. If any man isn't having what I'm having, they shouldn't get pissed off at me for writing this thread. They should make some changes and get to a happy place.
 

Does it ever occur to you that a reasonable percent  of the men and women here  feel their spouses  are absolutely the best?
 

No...... and as some read earlier in this thread, I hurt some feelings when I told scertain posters that I don't want their lives. Their lives is not what I would call successful. Middle age married men spending lots of time on the internet with wife and kids in other room.
 
I would like to hear from those guys what is so special about their wives and how much they love them. Nothing.  I hear lots of praise from men who write trip reports how wonderful their RW they just met is. Within marriage the praise should continue after the honeymoon is over. If it doesn't, there are problems that need to be addressed. I just read a trip report where a guy said he married a RW and it was disasterous. He hadn't had sex in 5 years. He should have addressed the problem the first night his wife refused to sleep in the same bed. If the wife refused to fix the problem in their marriage, she should be discarded quickly. Anybody who values their marriage should address any problem eagerly.
 
When I'm married, my posts will be shorter and I won't be on the forum as much. Priorities will shift and if I spent the same amount of time on the internet when married as I do know, I would be neglecting my wife. I don't work here. I'm not a moderator or owner. I'm not retired so I don't have a lot of free time on my hands. Family and work comes first. I will be spending lots of time with A. She talks more to me than I to her so we will not have many silent days to where I can sit on the computer alone. She likes to go to parks and go on scenic drives. She likes family oriented activities. One reason a lot of ladies, sincere ladies, I've dated like me and would marry me is because they see in me a good strong family man.
 

You've chosen a self improvement attitude and general method of trying to be a quality individual  that has a lot of merit,,

Besides being the "right" guy, it's equally important to finding and identifying the "right" woman. Choose wisely or your married life will be boring, empty, and possibly hell.
 

Smart girl Fishnet stockings are great as they should be good even with a business suit and open toe shoes in summer. Make sure Billy that you get her a Wolford fishnet stay ups

I just checked out Wolford fishnet stay ups and they look like a finer net than the fishnet A was wearing in an earlier photo but they look good too. A will wear whatever I want. She wants to make me happy and in turn, it makes me want to make her happy too.
 
A says Libyian men make their wives dress looking like prostitutes at home. I won't ask A to look like that but I'd like her to keep her sex appeal. If she starts to look like some western women wearing sloppy clothes, I'm going to say something about it. Chances are she won't. When I asked her what she thought about feminists, she laughed and said "They aren't women".
 
Sometimes on the forum we hear guys talk about how strong RW wanting to wear the pants in the family, they are stubborn and out of control. Almost all sincere RW I've met want to make their man happy and they will be submissive to make him happy. They will not be submissive to a weak man. Weak men get run over.
 
I dated a RW who said with disgust her ex RM didn't know how to do anything around the house. he couldn't put up a curtain rod and she had to do it herself. There are a lot of men out there that know very little on how to maintain a home when it comes to plumbing, electric, roofing, floors, etc.. Some men don't know how to even check fluid levels in their cars. They call and pay another man to take care of their car and home. Not knowing basics and you will have women looking down at you. I hear about the dumb men that many of my dates have experienced and they don't like it. I still maintain friendships with some of past RW I've dated. Sometimes they ask me to help them move or fix something in their house or car and I would help. They say "it's nice to have a man in the home".
 
I sometimes invited my ex Ukrianian wife's sister and husband to restaurants and cinema but the husband would always refuse going to the cinema although his wife's expression would be happy to go. I told my ex that her sister doesn't get to do many fun things and her husband always makes the decisions. My ex said that he Fukcs her good every night and she's happy with the marriage.
 
I know some of what I've experienced doesn't match what other men have experienced with RW. Just because one man has his RW running over him doesn't mean you or I are going to pay the price too. They've seen some or a lot of bad in RW. I've seen a lot of good. Your behavior as a man will influence the behavior of the ladies..
 
 A told me the other day her and a friend was planning to go to the cinema everyday since it was half price. I said something about the cinema but she didn't hear correctly and told me if I don't want her to go to the cinema, she will will stop. I told her I want her to have fun this summer and spend as much time with her friends and family before she has to say goodbye. She was happy to hear that and told me she's writing a list of all her expenses and will show me when I see her next time so I understand that she's spending the money I'm sending wisely. I like the fact she's trying to earn my trust instead of taking the money I send for granted.
 
 

[pitbull]

 The only thing that disappoints me is you would prefer A over me.   Maybe you would prefer both of us? Just send me your answer in a PM and I will be discreet about it.   
 

No need to be discreet  - I strongly porefer A. alone 

[Daveman]

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Your behavior as a man will influence the behavior of the ladies..
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Git R Dun! I don't care who you are, that's funny true right there now...

[JR]

Git R Dun! I don't care who you are, that's funny true right there now...

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[BC]

I would like to hear from those guys what is so special about their wives and how much they love them. Nothing. I hear lots of praise from men who write trip reports how wonderful their RW they just met is. Within marriage the praise should continue after the honeymoon is over. If it doesn't, there are problems that need to be addressed.

Then you'll just have to accept that other married guys around here are doing quite ok and have loving relationships.  There is no mandate for anyone to go to the TMI levels you seem to need or require of others.  I personally think it is neither necessary or constructive.  I've shared some online photo albums and send a few xmas pictures or such during the holiday season to a select few that I keep in touch with off board.  If someone pm's and would like to put a face behind a moniker, I'll usually honor it if the person requesting agrees to keep it to themselves.  I have a private life and like to keep it that way.  Just not the facebook exhibitionist type. I also have no need to try and impress.

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[Faux Pas]

  I like the fact she's trying to earn my trust instead of taking the money I send for granted.

 I like the fact she's trying to earn my trust money instead of taking the money trust I send for granted.

[Jumper]

I purposely delived some of my message strong to show you something about RW yet you failed to see....failed to see it's okay to be strong and still be respected and loved. 

70 pages?
sure! why not , it makes billy feel better!
 
 
So your strong presentation here was loved generally by the RW?
Delude yourself if you want,really.
 
 
Ok..
and so somehow as an adult male, I don't know that it's ok to be strong , and still be respected and loved?
 
You know that i've failed to see  this ?
Hmm, well then , please elaborate where you feel I don't live up to womens expectations in those regards  billy?
(or any others, you feel need addressed)
 
As I am just dying for some self improvement tips,
delivered from a middle aged man pursuing a teenage girl that has almost zero(if not entirely zero?)  dating experience,who quite understandibly lacked adult experience and self confidence to meet her big romantic interests without her  mother as a chaperone.(no knock on her at all, she's simply not old enough and lacks adult experiences like dating)
 Of course ,to offset that, you dated locally and had your pick of women, so you got that going for you, which is nice.
 
 
 As I acknowledged prior, I think you've given some decent general advice, peppered with a lot of oddity and contradictory actions.
 
as small example:
Truly confident men don't make fake profiles billy. 
 
Calculating or insecure ones might.
 
Lets see....
 
The confident, strong,and  self assured man ,carefully crafted a secret profile, to check on his romantic interests reponces to other men..
 
funny it just doesn't seem to fit ?
 
I never made a secret profile billy. I was simply confident in my abilty to read people , and self assured enough, to take the chances that building a relationship, based on actual trust ,takes.
 
 
Oh wait!
 I can't be confident,  or in a great relationship with an amazing woman, because I have time to reply on the intronetz!!
 or i don't agree with all your ramblings..
 
I forgot all about that internet forum billy rule #3261   
 

[Jumper]

I sometimes invited my ex Ukrianian wife's sister and husband to restaurants and cinema but the husband would always refuse going to the cinema although his wife's expression would be happy to go. I told my ex that her sister doesn't get to do many fun things and her husband always makes the decisions. My ex said that he Fukcs her good every night and she's happy with the marriage.

 
You've brought that example up before.
 
Has it occured to you that a strong man,
with any level of self assurance,
simply doesnt feel the need to make every little decision..
in life.
Down to what to order for dinner or what movie to see or not?
 
That he would likely be just fine with letting his wife, who is hopefully an adult and capable of making such decisions,
  go to the movies with her sister and BIL, or even going along as well occassionally.
 
Someone wanting to exert that level of control that you describe isnt truly strong, its far more likely macho posturing ,covering insecurities, or simply selfisness.
 
You may hit on something cultural though..as i've seen similar scenarios.
 
If she's happy in the marriage odds are its not because he dictates decisions down to the level they never go to the movies.
 
While i'm sure she appreciates a confident man,
and he may be one, those actions as described dont really show that.