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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1475 on: October 17, 2011, 02:10:45 PM »
I have read in many forums where a K1 visa for Ukraine is being done, that the interviewers allow the the male fiance to be present as well.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1476 on: October 19, 2011, 01:42:49 AM »
 
the product name is "agent provocateur cendrillon playsuit." Unfortunately, it only comes in black color. In red they have this: http://www.agentprovocateur.com/autumn-winter-2011/alina.html.


Thanks for the site. You are suprising me. What else do you know?  ;)  A and I will be shopping there. I'm sure I can find something for me her.
 
I want to remind some of the newbies that although I've bought my fiancee a lot of gifts, I did not do this early when I met her. If she remained in Libya where her mom made good money, I would not send her $500 a month. Lots of men use money and gifts to catch women. Money can help a lot but a guy should challenge himself to win a woman based off his qualities. As I mentioned early in this thread, my average dinner date was $30 and most of the time entertainment at my recommendation was a walk in a park. I got plenty of repeat dates with that program.
 
Slavica Ecclestone had moved out of the family home and filed for divorce.[37] The divorce was granted on 11 March 2009."

I looked at a few Bernie Ecclestone's photos on the internet. Almost always he looks grumpy. Married to a few billion dollars may ease the pain but few women can put up with grumpy forever.
 
We just had out interview last week in Kyiv.



Congrats to you and your lady and wish you both happiness and success.
 
My wife and daughter just recently received their visas in Kyiv.

Congrats to you and your family. Lots of interviews going on lately.
 
One woman almost passed out.


I was in the American embassy in Tashkent and I seen more families than women going for interviews. Total silence but the looks on their faces pretty much said everything. Their path in life will be determined by a person they've never met.
 
The steel toed boots pinching toes off is a myth.

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I like mythbusters. The tests they did with steel toe boots doesn't reflect what can happen in my line of work. When they run 30 metric tons over those boots I'm sure they'll agree there's a greater chance toes will be cut off.
 
Billy refers to those metal track vehicles.. I can see under certain circumstances that toes could be squished, but with or without, at that point toes are toast....


Yep, toes are toast. It would be better if toes were cut off so a guy could remove his foot out of the boot. If the steel toe is squished and pinching the toes, the doctor would have to spend time cutting the steel toe boot off. Cutting steel generates heat and probably would cook a little meat.
 
 
Below are a few photos of A at another wedding. I don't see many women wear short necklaces but I really like the one A is wearing.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1477 on: October 19, 2011, 10:15:45 AM »
 
Thanks for the site. You are suprising me. What else do you know?  ;)   

You are welcomed. :)
Thank you for posting new photos. A looks gorgeous, as always.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1478 on: October 20, 2011, 05:14:18 PM »
Thank you for posting new photos. A looks gorgeous, as always.

 
 Thank you for the compliment Mies. Dozens of pages ago I posted some photos of myself. I was so sure I'd get showered with compliments I bought an umbrella. I have yet to open the umbrella. I'm not jealous of A though. I'm happy for her and I prefer men looking at her butt rather than mine as we walk down the street. Some guys lock up their woman just because of things like this but it's normal for men to look at female anatomy. Many neck injuries are the result.
 
 
 
 
Ghadafi finally died. I don't wish anyone to die but I do find myself receiving pleasure while reading certain people's obituaries. A ask me why they killed him and didn't just throw him in jail. I told her Ghadafi is the one who determined if he was going to live or die. He had the choice to leave Libya and live but decided that a lot of people had to die so he could hold onto power for a few more months. He and his family will pay a price.
 
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-dictator-moammar-gadhafi-dead-libyas-prime-minister-122438217.html
 
 
 The last few weeks have been good for me. I have been called troll, ignorant and an idiot. This is a big improvement over the names I been called earlier in this thread. I feel I've made some progress and finally earning the respect of crowds Grumpy, Negative, and Pessimistic. One thing I've learned is those unpleasant character traits can be had by both liberals or conservatives.
 
 
 A few women in another thread said they were happy to have their husbands over a guy like me. I don't expect to attract those kind of women and certainly I wouldn't marry them. I don't care to please all women but there is one kind of woman I do want to please. Women that are similar to my fiancee. With my mind and beliefs that is the kind of woman I attract and that is the kind of women I will get. I'm not talking about her looks or age but her character and personality.
 
 
 If I made any error about judging my fiancee, its an error of not praising her enough. I don't get excited and jump of for joy when a beautiful woman wants to be with me and I am cautious in my assessment of her. I have been holding back full praise of A to everyone here. When A lives with me, I will continue to talk about her life with me and how she adjusts.  I wouldn't be surprised if she is much better than the woman I've told.
 
 
 A few hot topics have been talked about in other threads and I'll mention a few of my thoughts here. Some people believe spanking is a tool to discipline kids and some don't. I believe it's a parent's right to spank their child if they think necessary. Spanking is not physical abuse.  Some people believe parents should compromise on how to discipline a child. I don't believe people should compromise after they get married. They should have been smart enough to compromise before marriage or married a person with similar beliefs thus avoiding conflicts in the future. I quit dating a beautiful RW with a child after I got the impression that I will have little role raising her son pertaining to discipline if I got into a serious relationship with her.
 
 
 I told A that she can tell my kids what to do and punish them if they are bad. There will be no compromise. I TRUST her enough to discipline the children without my intervention except for added support she will get from me. Our kids will clearly understand their parents are always unified. Regardless of which parent is doing the discipline, there should be not any discussion of compromise and that parent should be allowed to do things his/her way.
 
 
 Another topic talked about is limiting the food your significant other eats. Some think it's controlling behavior and some don't. A will be in charge of food purchases and meals in our home. I know she will feed me much better food than I would make for myself but I don't see her controlling me. Her attitude is more about love and care than control. I'm not that picky of an eater. I'm just happy if I got food in my belly but I'm sure A will cook me a gamburger once in a while.
 
 
 There's been some talk about guns in another thread. I have guns in the house. A is excited to be going to the range with me at the local gun club when she gets here.
 
 
 Time is approaching fast and the topic that dominate our phone conversations is about making our life together. A's tone of voice is with excitement and joy while mine is happy and calm. One of my policies is that no matter how angry one of us gets from inside or outside sources, nobody goes to bed angry. This only works if both husband and wife are mature emotionally stable people. I don't like to be around grumpy people. A tells me she never stays angry for more than a few hours and she's back to her happy optimistic self. In almost 2 years of knowing A, we've never been in an argument. We have disagreements and although A disagrees, she always respect my views and goes one step further than most and research it. Almost always she comes back and says I'm right. It'll be a much better world if women find men they feel are always right.
 
 
Here's a few old photos of A in Libya.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1479 on: October 22, 2011, 10:58:46 AM »
Will someone explain what is going on here?
 
My posts are getting erased on other threads by Boethius and my latest one here just got deleted. Who deleted it the one in this thread? Boethius locked the thread below so I couldn't respond yet Faux Paws was allowed. to post I guess I was the only one locked out of the topic?
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1480 on: October 22, 2011, 11:10:34 AM »
Will someone explain what is going on here?
 
My posts are getting erased on other threads by Boethius and my latest one here just got deleted. Who deleted it the one in this thread? Boethius locked the thread below so I couldn't respond yet Faux Paws was allowed. to post I guess I was the only one locked out of the topic?
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14038.msg280114;topicseen#msg280114
 
Kids, control issues and anger managment. Think about it.




Your current complaint is under review... please take a time-out and let things rest a bit. 


BTW, I am the one who locked the thread in question.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1481 on: October 22, 2011, 12:44:44 PM »

BTW, I am the one who locked the thread in question.


I understand that Daveman and I appreciate you letting everybody know your actions without hiding them BUT the topic was locked before you locked it. I made a post before you locked it and it said topic was locked. There has been a lot of games played with my posts and some of the posts were deleted within seconds of me posting them. I got me a cyber stalker following my every move. :rolleyes2:
 
If posters including moderators aren't happy with what I post, they shouldn't read and get themselves worked up. This has gotten to the point of people posting immature responses and deleting my posts. There are people that are happy to read what I type. Everyone needs to understand this isn't just their world.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1482 on: October 22, 2011, 04:29:46 PM »

I understand that Daveman and I appreciate you letting everybody know your actions without hiding them BUT the topic was locked before you locked it. I made a post before you locked it and it said topic was locked. There has been a lot of games played with my posts and some of the posts were deleted within seconds of me posting them. I got me a cyber stalker following my every move. :rolleyes2:


The topic was inadvertently locked for a few minutes prior to Dave locking the thread. It caused me a problem as well. It had nothing to do with you Billy. I know you find that difficult to believe  but you can take my word for it  :D
 
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If posters including moderators aren't happy with what I post, they shouldn't read and get themselves worked up. This has gotten to the point of people posting immature responses and deleting my posts. There are people that are happy to read what I type. Everyone needs to understand this isn't just their world.


I know of no one who gets worked up over your posts. When you break the TOS you will be warned/deleted/moderated. You should understand this isn't just your world. Lots of people, myself included are very happy to read what you write. The entertainment factor is through the roof. It's very rare to to find a poster so willing to make a fool of himself as you do.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1483 on: October 22, 2011, 05:36:25 PM »

I know of no one who gets worked up over your posts. When you break the TOS you will be warned/deleted/moderated. You should understand this isn't just your world. Lots of people, myself included are very happy to read what you write. The entertainment factor is through the roof. It's very rare to to find a poster so willing to make a fool of himself as you do.

What ToS did I break? One post got moved and I simply put a link in Aloe's thread so she can read it if she wished. The past few weeks there has been a lot of name calling from the crowd on your side of the fence. Why didn't you tell them and yourself to stop breaking ToS. It looks read bad for the few moderators who try to control and manipulate peoples posts by moving or deleting them without valid reason. Now I'm in moderated status for added control and you're telling people nobody gets worked up?
 

It's very rare to to find a poster so willing to make a fool of himself as you do.

Read post #1356 in the link below. Some people "get it".
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11638.1350
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1484 on: October 23, 2011, 01:46:54 PM »
 Okie Dokie,
 
I understand it's in management's or politician's best interest to discuss certain issues behind closed doors. Putting out things in public can make the situation turn into an ugly circus. Sometimes talking about some issues in the open is a good thing. Some people's actions are good because they are good people. Some people's actions are good ONLY because they know others are watching. One reason I believe politicians are better in free countries is because people are watching and there is accountability.
 
I like this forum and the owner Dan and I don't want to turn this into a mud slinging contest to trash the place but I'll say my piece and then I'll leave it alone. I hope those involved will make the experience at the forum more pleasurable and fairness is a good way to start.
 
Some people now reading probably don't know what happened recently but they may suspect I said something bad in Aloe's thread. Most people who participated in that thread insulted  Aloe's husband including calling him a mother F'er. I criticized Aloe's husband too. I don't want to go around this forum worrying about a moderator who calls me names and then follows me around looking for an “Aha! I got you!!!” moment to slap me with a moderated/warning status to control what I write, where I write it, when I write it, and if I'm to write anything at all.
 
Moderators don't have to like me but apply the same moderating standards for all. I get the feeling some people try too hard to save the world from reading what I post. I'm still wondering who deleted one post in this thread that didn't violate ToS? This thread is out of Boethius's jurisdiction and I hope I wasn't tag teamed.
 
That is all I'll say on that issue and I hope everyone can sort it out on their end.

 

 
I understand some people's source of frustration with me because they still view me as a criminal child molester. Their occasional mention of my teen bride around the forum pretty much says it all.
 
Another source of frustration is that some feel I brag. I warned people before I started this thread I'm going to lose a few friends. I've opened up and told you a lot about myself and how I think and operate so you can better understand the results I'm getting. I didn't start this thread to rub it in your nose but to help those who wish to learn something. Before this thread I've got over 5000 posts here and elsewhere. At those times I posted differently just like most normal people. I may tell you about something wonderful in my life such as a girl I just met but I won't tell you how I got to that point. Here you can read how I get there and my methods. If anybody feels I or someone else is bragging, look at it this way, it means they have something good in their life to brag about so figure out how to get it for yourself.
 
Some people follow me around the forum. Everybody but them understand what they are doing. They do not debate my posts based of it's merits or demerits but post insults and remind everybody I'm marrying an underage teen. Why remind everyone? This thread is open and competent people can read for themselves and understand that I'm not breaking the law.
 
One thing Hammer noticed in Manlooking's thread is that people like to find and beat up their least favorite poster. Some posters were accusing ML of being a control freak based off one act of denying his gf some bread although she can eat everything else. You can't define a person based off one act but if you don't like him/her, I guess it's possible of accusing them anything.
 
I mentioned earlier Lily is my favorite RW on the forums. She has a calm demeanor and never makes an ugly emotional outburst against someone she disagrees with. She's a true lady. I don't expect men to be a ladies but some men here have nowhere near the composure as the ladies yet they tell newbies to grow thicker skin or some balls. Go figure.
 
If one doesn't like what I post, post your opinions and advice next to mine and let people choose what they need. There are some people that enjoy what I'm writing. Much to some people's dismay there are women out there that are thrilled to find a man like me.
 
On the marital problems Aloe is going though I notice some people have recommended divorce or a move towards independence. I was the only one that recommended to Aloe to be more submissive and loving even if the love comes in physical form to help her marriage.
 
Moving towards independence within marriage seems counterproductive and an act towards divorce. A friend of mine told me, as he interpreted the Bible, there are three valid reasons for divorce. Adultery, abuse, and abandonment. Abandonment can come in other forms other than physical, and some of those forms are mental and possibly in Aloe's case, financial.
 
If my woman decides to live financially separate, in separate bedrooms, or living in separate ways in any way, I will help her be on her way to true independence. I don't want her to feel she has to stay married to me only on the parts that are convenient to her. I don't want her to suffer and feel trapped and she doesn't need to feel sorry for me. I can find another woman easy enough.
 
Aloe's husband works. He feeds her, clothes her and puts her through school. He may not do it perfectly but he's doing more for Aloe than anybody here. Aloe married the man and she's trying to live within the marriage that is beneficial only to herself and at the same time live like an independent woman on the parts that are beneficial to herself. If Aloe chooses to accept her husbands income that puts her in school only to use his support as a stepping stone to financial independence and tool to dump her husband, I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed she put her husband up on the forum to get him beat up . It's possible she wanted validation for her existing feelings. She got it.
 
If a person has something to say about their marriage and need help, they need to lay out all the good with the bad so people can better assess the situation. I believe the husband is the head of the family. When nobody agrees, he should have the final say. Not Aloe and certainly not the posters here. I don't feel sorry for a woman who marries a man she doesn't respect. Relationships like that can be full of regret, resentment, arguments and a jaded view of marriage and it's purpose.
 
Aloe has come to the forum with marital problems before only to confess she loves her husband and happy with him 99% of the time. I remember her saying her husband complained about her only vacuuming their place once every 3 weeks. My advice to her was to stop having fun talking to us, get off the computer and go make her husband happy. I know she doesn't agree with most my advice but I'm right and it would've been a step in the right direction for her marriage.
 
I notice a lot of people hating my advice to Aloe to be submissive and I think I know why. Most people have a different definition of it and think being submissive is bad, humiliating, giving up pride and dignity and playing the role of servant to a master. Being submissive to bad person is bad but not to the one you love.
 
My definition of being submissive is giving total and unconditional love to your spouse. Giving your all. If those who don't understand the true meaning of being submissive within relationships as the way I understand it, then those people probably won't be able to identify and find the kind of women I'm finding. If A wants something, chances are I'll always agree. She's very much like me when it comes to finances and how to live. She's very conservative so I know she will live within our means and not recommend 5 star restaurants every night. She'll probably pull me to church more than I'm accustomed to going but I can be there for her and I know that is one way of bonding our relationship. She wants to go for a walk with me everyday. I don't do that but I will for her and it'll be another way for us to bond and make our marriage stronger.
 
Many of the guys and girls that just now started searching for someone in their lives have a long way to go. Behind every pretty photo there could be a lot of ugly or a wonderful person. Some people will put their best foot forward and be afraid to talk about their ideas and opinions. Don't be afraid to tell everybody you communicate with who you are and how you think. Some will like you, some won't but the goal is to find someone who adores you as yourself.
 
Below in the link is an interesting article from 1955. Some men and women will get angry and/or laugh at it. Others will see it as pure wisdom. The women I attract see wisdom there and I wouldn't get involved with a woman that thinks otherwise.
 
http://j-walk.com/other/goodwife/index.htm

 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1485 on: October 23, 2011, 02:15:58 PM »
Billy,


You may have your definition of submissive, but it is not the standard definition by far. The Oxford online dictionary defines it thus: "ready to conform to the authority or will of others; meekly obedient or passive". Where do you see unconditional love? You can easily be submissive and hate the other person.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1486 on: October 24, 2011, 12:28:09 AM »

Some people now reading probably don't know what happened recently but they may suspect I said something bad in Aloe's thread. Most people who participated in that thread insulted  Aloe's husband including calling him a mother F'er. I criticized Aloe's husband too. I don't want to go around this forum worrying about a moderator who calls me names and then follows me around looking for an “Aha! I got you!!!” moment to slap me with a moderated/warning status to control what I write, where I write it, when I write it, and if I'm to write anything at all.
Your moderated status was, as was explained to you, the result of you trying to re-post removed posts.
If you repeat the offense, expect the same punishment.

Stop blaming the world for you being yourself.

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« Reply #1487 on: October 24, 2011, 01:52:00 AM »
Stop blaming the world for you being yourself.
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« Reply #1488 on: October 24, 2011, 03:16:30 AM »
 
Below in the link is an interesting article from 1955. Some men and women will get angry and/or laugh at it. Others will see it as pure wisdom. The women I attract see wisdom there and I wouldn't get involved with a woman that thinks otherwise.
 
http://j-walk.com/other/goodwife/index.htm

Oh, that is a funny article.  Everyone should print that out and take it with them when they go for a first meeting with someone they hope will be special.  No sense waiting to let them know what proper behavoir is. 
 
I know if I gave that article to my wife I would make sure she was not behind me when I bent down or I know what she would do with it. 
 
Billy, I am assuming you have reviewed all those points with "A:  :rules:

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1489 on: October 24, 2011, 04:03:06 AM »
 
Your moderated status was, as was explained to you, the result of you trying to re-post removed posts.
If you repeat the offense, expect the same punishment.


The first post that was deleted by Boethius was NOT a ToS violation so I posted it again. It was deleted because Boethius didn't want Aloe to read link to the original post of mine she removed from the thread. People should be free to read a link that leads to a thread in this forum. Boethius was playing a game with me removing my posts within seconds. If she deleted one post, she should notify people and list the reason why to the forum and at a minimum to me but she didn't. She does lots of things without notifying people.
 
Sometimes people post and the post doesn't submit so they post the same stuff again. Is that a ToS violation? Technically I could have thought exactly that and that it may have been a glitch in the software here. Removing posts that doesn't violate ToS sounds personal. If you want mod 3, show the forum the FIRST post Boethius deleted and let people decide if it was a ToS violation. Show the post in this thread that was deleted and let people decide if it ws a ToS violation.
 
Stop blaming the world for you being yourself.


So I guess I had it coming to me?  Deserved every bit of what you did to me. Boethius, post from your own account name and stop the BS. You are the only moderator that has real personal problems with me. You are the moderator that calls me names. Don't go and tie my hands behing my back. It makes you look silly and tarnishes the integrity of the rest of the moderators. Your actions of late has created a lot of work for management to sort out. This is the second time you ambushed me.
 
Billy,


You may have your definition of submissive, but it is not the standard definition by far. The Oxford online dictionary defines it thus: "ready to conform to the authority or will of others; meekly obedient or passive". Where do you see unconditional love? You can easily be submissive and hate the other person.

Obedient and passive can be behaviors associated with love. Love has many definitions. Don't have time to find that poem of definitions now because I got to go.
Billy, I am assuming you have reviewed all those points with "A:  :rules:

Don't have to, she's already told me how she is and she's basically adapted those rules without reading them. She takes care of me, I take care of her, life is good.
 
I'm off to Ukraine. See ya when I get back.
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1490 on: October 24, 2011, 04:47:21 AM »
   
Obedient and passive can be behaviors associated with love. Love has many definitions. Don't have time to find that poem of definitions now because I got to go.
Don't have to, she's already told me how she is and she's basically adapted those rules without reading them. She takes care of me, I take care of her, life is good.
 
I'm off to Ukraine. See ya when I get back.

I will agree that when you really love someone you want to do all you can to make them happy.  I don't think there are very many women who would follow those rules today.  If you have one, more power to you. 
 
I am sure both you and A are excited that you are heading back to Ukraine.  I am looking forward to hearing about it and wish you a wonderful trip.
 
FWIW, I am a mod and I don't even know who Mod3 is but I do think your guess is wrong.  Billy, we all have people we like and those we don't care for quite as much.  I am sure it comes out in forum actions but I do think everyone has the intention to be fair and even handed in their actions.  In the real world things are never perfect but I do think everyone tries to do their best.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1491 on: October 24, 2011, 06:48:39 AM »
I understand some people's source of frustration with me because they still view me as a criminal child molester. Their occasional mention of my teen bride around the forum pretty much says it all.

So does the State of Washington.
 
By the State of Washington you have broken the law. Age of consent is 16 however age of consent is 18 when the predator is 60 months or older then the victim. This also applies to just talking about sex and not actually engaging in a sexual act. By Washington State law you have already committed a crime punishable by up to one year in prison and being registered as a sex offender for even discussing sexual matters with a 17 year old. If at any time you were in Washington and discussed over the phone or internet sexual manners with this girl while she was 17 you can be prosecuted.
 
As much as this thread has also turned my stomach to read the one thing I take joy in is knowing this girl is not a victim. She is playing the game and at the moment winning.
She has maintained her cover by keeping you thinking with your little head instead of the big one.
 
"Due to my religious beliefs I will not have sex until I am married"

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"The very thought of laying with you makes me want to vomit. However I have an agenda here with a green card as a reward at the end. In order to not blow my cover I will be little virgin A. The submissive princess until I get that green card. Until then my mother will teach you how to sexually pleasure me to keep you thinking with your little head and not figure out you are being played."
 
 
Such religious morals are past down from the family. For her to make a decision like that she did so at a young age. Only something she would get from her parents.
Parents agreeing to let their daughter marry such an older man and even go so far to tell him how to pleasure their young daughter sort of throws out all the religious and family morals to believe they raised such a fine daughter.
 
I feel you and Maxx are about to become very good friends in the near future.
 
But hey Billy. You may just make US history with this journey of yours. Somehow I see your name on the next bill the Senator from Washington wants to pass in order to completely remove international marriages all together.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1492 on: October 24, 2011, 07:34:02 AM »

So does the State of Washington.
 
By the State of Washington you have broken the law. Age of consent is 16 however age of consent is 18 when the predator is 60 months or older then the victim.

 
This is nothing more than rank speculation, but from what I understand Delaware (and several other states) also has this same type of "predatory law" on the books.
 
Maybe one of RWD's in house legal scholars...William3rd or Boethius can check on this?  8)
 
Disgraced Congressman Anthony Weiner (A.K.A. "scum bag") from N.Y. had "inappropriate" contact with an under age girl in Delaware (across state lines).
 
For several days after this incident was revealed Mr. Weiner stated: "I am not quitting my job".
 
Then the FBI got involved (spoke to the under age girls mother) and the next thing you know..... Mr. Weiner had left his office (quit).

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/06/11/weiner-admits-contact-with-underage-girl/

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1493 on: October 24, 2011, 07:48:52 AM »
Ravens9273, perhaps you should try reading this thread from the begining and better inform yourself. Its pretty obvious you don't have a clue about this thread. Its already been established and posted by Moderators on this thread that Billy hasn't broken any laws. In Washington State where I live or any other place. Sheesh!!!! get a clue please!!!!!  :cluebat: :deadhorse:
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1494 on: October 24, 2011, 08:37:21 AM »
Yes, you are correct Turbo, I am not Mod3, nor did I place Billy in moderated status. 


Hammer, no mod made a pronouncement on the legality of Billy's contact.  Daveman said she is now of legal age.


Billy did, in this very thread, state he contacted this girl when she was underage.  He was ashamed enough about it that he claimed he contacted her solely "for friendship". :rolleyes2:    I suspect it is that contact Ravens is referring to.  I don't know whether or not that contact was illegal.  Without reviewing the legislation, I assume it would depend on the content of emails.  Nevertheless, given how this has unfolded, the chance of being prosecuted (even if it were illegal, and I am not stating it was, though I agree with those here who have found that contact morally reprehensible) is practically non existent.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1495 on: October 24, 2011, 08:51:53 AM »
Obedient and passive can be behaviors associated with love. Love has many definitions. Don't have time to find that poem of definitions now because I got to go.


I have yet to see any definition of love that would include obedient and passive behaviors  :-\

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1496 on: October 24, 2011, 10:52:30 AM »
Nevertheless, given how this has unfolded, the chance of being prosecuted (even if it were illegal, and I am not stating it was, though I agree with those here who have found that contact morally reprehensible) is practically non existent.

Probably true.
 
But GOB has a funny feeling that the American Embassy in Kiev might find a K-1 applicant who contacts under age minor girl(s) interesting.
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1497 on: October 24, 2011, 10:59:53 AM »
...That is all I'll say on that issue and I hope everyone can sort it out on their end....

That has happened to me (deleted post). There wasn't anything in my post that even remotely violated ToS. Although I can't say the same about the response, but nonetheless I was sent a message saying *I* was out of line. It happens...deal with it, this is only a message board, BillyB. You know...yah can't stand the heat and all that good stuff...
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1498 on: October 24, 2011, 11:04:54 AM »
A spam post for Viagra in commercial services may not be against the ToS either.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1499 on: October 24, 2011, 11:06:50 AM »
Okie Dokie,
 
I understand it's in management's or politician's best interest to discuss certain issues behind closed doors. Putting out things in public can make the situation turn into an ugly circus. Sometimes talking about some issues in the open is a good thing. Some people's actions are good because they are good people. Some people's actions are good ONLY because they know others are watching. One reason I believe politicians are better in free countries is because people are watching and there is accountability.


First off, this is not a democracy (or democratic republic). This is a privately owned and operated website/forum with its own policies.  If you understand that putting things out in public can turn a situation into an ugly circus, then why publicly announce this here? 


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I like this forum and the owner Dan and I don't want to turn this into a mud slinging contest to trash the place but I'll say my piece and then I'll leave it alone. I hope those involved will make the experience at the forum more pleasurable and fairness is a good way to start.
 
Some people now reading probably don't know what happened recently but they may suspect I said something bad in Aloe's thread. Most people who participated in that thread insulted  Aloe's husband including calling him a mother F'er. I criticized Aloe's husband too. I don't want to go around this forum worrying about a moderator who calls me names and then follows me around looking for an “Aha! I got you!!!” moment to slap me with a moderated/warning status to control what I write, where I write it, when I write it, and if I'm to write anything at all.
 
Moderators don't have to like me but apply the same moderating standards for all. I get the feeling some people try too hard to save the world from reading what I post. I'm still wondering who deleted one post in this thread that didn't violate ToS? This thread is out of Boethius's jurisdiction and I hope I wasn't tag teamed.
 
That is all I'll say on that issue and I hope everyone can sort it out on their end.


Cool, you were given opportunity to say what was on your mind. Now, I'll trust your word that "That is all I'll say on the matter" of moderation and the moderators.  Moderator actions are not debatable. Period.


A problem some have with your posting, and I have to concur with the sentiment here, is that you often pull spouses into the commentary... "go spend time with your wife", "you must not have a happy marriage", etc etc...  which is absolutely meaningless and nothing more than fluff in a discussion.  Granted, you caught a LOT of flak early on, and were soaking it up and responding to the posts rather than the posters even in the face of such 'criticism' and I give credit where credit is due.  However, BillyB, it is YOU who discuss details of your relationship with A, and therefore bring your relationship into scrutiny... but, the fact that you bring your own relationship into the discussion does not open the door for you to bring others' relationships or marriages into the discussion.  People are free to divulge or not as much information as they wish. 

 
Now, to the rest of your post, bragging et al...  for myself, I just can't take you seriously yet as an "adviser" to teach men a new approach because, as happy as you might be at the current moment, your method still hasn't proved successful.  You have visited a woman for a week or two, and you filed a K-1..  you've had an online communication and she sends you photos.  The longer term outcome (which will prove/disprove your theories) remains to be seen, and I do hope you'll continue posting to share how that is going over time.  You simply have not achieved any measurable level of success yet with what most consider to be an extremely high risk endeavor.  Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, none of us, including you, actually know yet. That's my personal opinion... you still have a long row to hoe before ya know...


I do wish you and A the best of luck at her interview.
 

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