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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1575 on: November 06, 2011, 12:50:24 PM »
Gator, I also have read only parts of what he writes. but see a middle aged, self styled psychologist/psychyistrist, narcissistic future Jerry Springer guest who takes a 100 to 200:1 shot with a little girl as if he has discovered something brand new.
 
And yes, what could his future M-in-law be thinking...."I want to be sure my little girl is sexually satisfied by you...but can't discuss this with her as she is a virgin and never experienced this"??? Please!!!
 
Think of the newbies who may follow in his footsteps thinking this is a  probable success story.  After all, I always thought the aim of the forum is to give good advice, or tell of good experiences to others...not fairy tales, as if this jerk was as Clint Eastwood would say, "A legend in his own mind."
 
I couldn't care if his squeeze is a little girl or not as long as it is legal, and it is, but everything around it stinks, as he pats himself on the back, while at the same time he has maybe a one in a hundred chance at best.
 
For the newbies who think this is the way to go..........Would you give power of attorney for your whole life to a teenager?
 
Just imagine this guy a year from now in front of a divorce judge with his pregnant 20 year old wife in tow!!!  Really, how many months would you give this "chance of success" if you were a betting man?     

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1576 on: November 06, 2011, 02:05:46 PM »
Gator, I also have read only parts of what he writes. but see a middle aged, self styled psychologist/psychyistrist, narcissistic future Jerry Springer guest who takes a 100 to 200:1 shot with a little girl as if he has discovered something brand new.
 
Just imagine this guy a year from now in front of a divorce judge with his pregnant 20 year old wife in tow!!!  Really, how many months would you give this "chance of success" if you were a betting man?     


I'd say your odds are about right

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1577 on: November 06, 2011, 05:13:46 PM »
Gator, I also have read only parts of what he writes. but see a middle aged, self styled psychologist/psychyistrist, narcissistic future Jerry Springer guest who takes a 100 to 200:1 shot with a little girl as if he has discovered something brand new.
 
And yes, what could his future M-in-law be thinking...."I want to be sure my little girl is sexually satisfied by you...but can't discuss this with her as she is a virgin and never experienced this"??? Please!!!
 
Think of the newbies who may follow in his footsteps thinking this is a  probable success story. After all, I always thought the aim of the forum is to give good advice, or tell of good experiences to others...not fairy tales, as if this jerk was as Clint Eastwood would say, "A legend in his own mind."
 
I couldn't care if his squeeze is a little girl or not as long as it is legal, and it is, but everything around it stinks, as he pats himself on the back, while at the same time he has maybe a one in a hundred chance at best.
 
For the newbies who think this is the way to go..........Would you give power of attorney for your whole life to a teenager?
 
Just imagine this guy a year from now in front of a divorce judge with his pregnant 20 year old wife in tow!!!  Really, how many months would you give this "chance of success" if you were a betting man?     


First off, from this point forward, let's keep it clean and direct commentary toward the content of the post rather than the poster.  That being stated...


I doubt any newbies are going to read this thread and suddenly have the urge to do the same thing because of having read it. 


The purpose of the forum, to be more clear, is the discussion of FSU women, culture, etc, with a focus on relationships leading to marriage and to a lesser degree on travel, etc.  This thread (so far) falls within those parameters.  We also have a policy of inclusiveness, meaning, that the forum itself does not pass judgement as long as the posts fall within the parameters above and the forum conduct reasonably remains within the confines of the Terms of Service.  So, basically, RWD remains neutral.  Members are free to post and come across in the perception of others as brilliant or as idiotic or somewhere in between as the individual perceptions of the readers defines them to be.


Obviously not everyone agrees with everything stated in this thread nor finds it to be an avenue likely to lead to success.  Everyone is free to comment and they have been doing so for well over 60 pages and counting.  Just keep it above the belt.





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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1578 on: November 06, 2011, 08:29:31 PM »
Dave, you are correct in that the forum does indeed do everything you say, followed by decisions made by guys on what they have learned....read, and tend to believe.  I can't think of anyone (including sex tourists) who have written such nonsense as Billy...ever, including, "If my marriage lasts for only one night, it will be worth it."  Wow, what a high bar he has set!!!
 
Granted, my disagreements are vocal, for reasons already stated. 
 
 
So many things stated by Billy (ejaculate is carsonogenic) become comical.
 
Look, I'm glad he participates.  I don't dislike him as I don't know him, but think the posts presented by him are so crazy, that they certainly turn me off, as well as others.
 
You decide, I'll go away, no problem.  However, I promise not to answer or comment on this goofiness again. 

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1579 on: November 07, 2011, 04:46:47 AM »
Dave, you are correct in that the forum does indeed do everything you say, followed by decisions made by guys on what they have learned....read, and tend to believe.  I can't think of anyone (including sex tourists) who have written such nonsense as Billy...ever, including, "If my marriage lasts for only one night, it will be worth it."  Wow, what a high bar he has set!!!
 
Granted, my disagreements are vocal, for reasons already stated. 
 
 
So many things stated by Billy (ejaculate is carsonogenic) become comical.
 
Look, I'm glad he participates.  I don't dislike him as I don't know him, but think the posts presented by him are so crazy, that they certainly turn me off, as well as others.
 
You decide, I'll go away, no problem.  However, I promise not to answer or comment on this goofiness again.


GT, I do understand the points you are making. 


Let me try this from a slightly different angle.  I'm neither for nor against BillyB the member of RWD.  I'm neither on the side of BB nor on the side of his detractors.  I'm neither defending him nor attacking his detractors.


I am defending RWD and her tenets as well as her integrity as a discussion platform. 


This aspect seems to fly completely over the heads of most everyone.  It is RWD's 'responsibility', for lack of a better term, to provide the platform and it is the responsibility of the members to provide the discussion, debate, and/or challengesToGoofballInformation.  That 'process' has been repeated throughout the thread. Unfortunately the personal aspect crossed the line on several occasions, on both sides of the discussion.


As I mentioned, anyone is free to challenge anything posted in this thread.  The difference now is that thread will not be allowed to devolve into personal mudslinging again.  RWD has a policy of 'self moderation', meaning that her members tend to moderate themselves and each other throughout the natural course of the discussions.  Generally that policy works quite well in keeping a fair balance of expression.  That policy failed miserably in this thread. 


So, in summary, the purpose of a more proactive intervention by the RWD staff in this and other related threads is not to quell the discussion, nor to dissuade the challenges, nor to take a side in the debate but rather to maintain the integrity of RWD as the platform for open discussion.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1580 on: November 07, 2011, 08:01:52 AM »
Dave, in all these sixtysomething pages all I can say is that IMHO sounds like a fairytale.
 
Or a delusional person trying to convince the world of his world.
 
Either way, I find it hillarious.
 
I always try to inject a little humor to these kind of postings. I don't think it would be considered mudslinging. However, I'm always open to suggestions.
 
IMNSHO, the author is the one who is mudslinging himself.
 
Case in point. His fiance's mother is hard at work for him to perform with her daughter. (pun intended) Tell me where is the decor in these kinds of statements? Not that they are true.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1581 on: November 07, 2011, 08:26:30 AM »
....I remember reading one of those Dear Abby/Ann Landers help columns and a woman wrote and mentioned one reason her marriage is so successful. She received a wedding present from her grandmother and on the card, it said “For a happy marriage, wear this everyday.” She opened the box and there was nothing in it. Mom is just like that grandma and then some. I'll explain more later.

 
 :popcorn:   >:D
 
 
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So many things stated by Billy (ejaculate is carsonogenic) become comical.

 
Well, to be fair what BillyB said was that 'sperm is carcinogenic'. That may well be one of Mumski's shared secret information. But yeah, it was pretty funny yet at the same time an 'enlightening' segment of this thread thus far. The ensuing revelation after that information provoked confessions from a few of us. LOL.

 
Funny as that was, my favorite is still the soup line bit...
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1582 on: November 07, 2011, 08:29:59 AM »
Maybe you relish controversy?

Bingo!~

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1583 on: November 07, 2011, 09:02:52 AM »
Bingo!~


Heh.. and I agree.. however, the thread would not be 60 some odd pages if the OP were the only one shackled by this condition...  :P


Muzh, personally, I don't disagree that this saga could very well be a fairy tale.. regardless of how I look at it, the thread has moments of sheer hilarity.  It also displays some of the worst aspects of human nature.


There is also some excellent point/counterpoint though that is often lost in the spirited digital fisticuffs.  So, moving forward, let's focus on the former as opposed to the latter. 


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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1584 on: November 07, 2011, 09:24:08 AM »

Heh.. and I agree.. however, the thread would not be 60 some odd pages if the OP were the only one shackled by this condition...  :P


Most of the tumultuous rigmarole that come about, and BillyB's story is but one of many, are due to two types of posters.

The 'I am an exception.' and 'Because I can' of which Billy exudes both.  Add lust of controversy and WYSIWYG.

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There is also some excellent point/counterpoint though that is often lost in the spirited digital fisticuffs.  So, moving forward, let's focus on the former as opposed to the latter.


Yeah might be interesting, but that implies responding to the counterpoints.. which has yet to happen in substantive terms.

As such the thread remains active, primarily for entertainment purposes.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1585 on: November 07, 2011, 09:32:09 AM »
Think of the newbies who may follow in his footsteps
I'd be surprised if any newbie would wade through 60 odd pages of this bullsch!t - I suspect they're safe enough.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1586 on: November 07, 2011, 10:23:10 AM »
I'd be surprised if any newbie would wade through 60 odd pages of this bullsch!t - I suspect they're safe enough.


There's one or two that have and even quote chapter and verse.




I think just for clarity, I should state whether you agree with Billy or not, it is open season on his methods and/or advice. However, leave the personal attacks/name calling out of positions and opinions. (Not related to your post I/O again, just for clarity)

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1587 on: November 07, 2011, 10:36:59 AM »

 
Well, to be fair what BillyB said was that 'sperm is carcinogenic'. That may well be one of Mumski's shared secret information. But yeah, it was pretty funny yet at the same time an 'enlightening' segment of this thread thus far. The ensuing revelation after that information provoked confessions from a few of us. LOL.


FYI
 
Sperm is NOT carcinogenic. I'm surprised that Mr. Billy's soon to be MIL, being a doctor and all that, did/has not corrected him from this really stupid statement. The reason I mention this is because more often than not glamour magazines and tabloids in the former Soyuz are always raving about the anti-aging properties of sperm when ingested. I swear I'm not making this up. Also, if you llook at the composition for sperm, they may have something there after all.
 
Wonder if MIL will advice her daughter about the anti-aging properties of alleged carcinogens. Now, before I'm accused of being OTT, consider alleged statements made to the author by MIL, as reported BY THE AUTHOR.
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1588 on: November 07, 2011, 11:55:42 AM »

FYI
 
Sperm is NOT carcinogenic. I'm surprised that Mr. Billy's soon to be MIL, being a doctor and all that, did/has not corrected him from this really stupid statement. The reason I mention this is because more often than not glamour magazines and tabloids in the former Soyuz are always raving about the anti-aging properties of sperm when ingested. I swear I'm not making this up. Also, if you llook at the composition for sperm, they may have something there after all....

Aherm, yes, well...that's certainly food for thought, Muzh. I always knew it was a win-win proposition for all.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1589 on: November 07, 2011, 12:40:05 PM »
IMNSHO, the author is the one who is mudslinging himself.


He certainly is more than happy to insinuate that everybody else is a lesser man if we refuse to accept the unfiltered detritus  :popcorn:

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1590 on: November 07, 2011, 12:46:37 PM »

Aherm, yes, well...that's certainly food for thought, Muzh. I always knew it was a win-win proposition for all.

If more of them took those tabloids seriously, there'd be no need for botox. As you say, a win-win.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1591 on: November 07, 2011, 02:03:13 PM »

If more of them took those tabloids seriously, there'd be no need for botox. As you say, a win-win.


Sounds like a good place for a Charlie Sheen quote "when-ningk"

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1592 on: November 07, 2011, 11:08:07 PM »
 


Billy, how was the omlette she cooked?





It was ok. A has some learning to do when it comes to cooking but she tries. I think Jumper can cook better manly man food and it's too bad he's spoken for.



When is the interview? Are you bringing Mama to the interview?





Interview is done late last month. Read below. I asked mom to come but she said she'll wait at the apartment.






In late October A and I went to the American Consulate for her interview. We stood outside before going in and there were long lines for people going in. Fortunately it wasn't raining or extremely cold. I don't know what 100 other Ukrainians were waiting for but we got to go in before them.



A and I was one of the last to go into a room of others waiting for an interview. I don't think everyone was there for a k-1 or k-3 visa. One black guy has papers saying “Selective Service” on it. If I was sitting closer, I would've given him a few tips on what to expect in basic training. Pain, lots of pain. I don't know if his visa was approved but he didn't seem disappointed when he left after being interviewed. Foreign men serving in the US military isn't uncommon. In the Army airborne unit I was in, there was a guy from Spain and England.



Going to the interview A was confident. I asked her before if she needed to practice on some Q & A but she said she knows all about me. Since A and I were one of the last to go into the waiting room, we were also one of the last to be called. We waited for hours and A began to think something was wrong and got tense so I tried to loosen her up. I leaned over and put my lips on her cheek and gave her kisses in pecking fashion. A told me this is not good in Ukrainian culture to do this in public. I replied “You are on America soil now and see than camera up there? I want them to get a good look at what I'm doing so don't resist.” I also told her “Uncross your arms because it's making you look nervous and uncomfortable and if you had your arms crossed when we first met, I wouldn't be here today”. A smiled and relaxed after that.



When A was called, I went up to the interview's window with her. He was the first American we encountered at the consulate. He asked us both to raise our hands and swear we will tell the truth etc... He asked me a few simple questions and then ask me to return to my seat. A was asked general questions such as how many sisters I had and about me. I could here A's voice was cheerful and I understood her nervousness went away.



The toughest questions were about A's mom and they asked why she was working at Ghadafi's main hospital and if she or mom practiced politics. A person can be denied a visa if they like a person hostile to America or they themselves express unpleasant views of America. If a guy is marrying a woman that doesn't like America, he shouldn't bring her here to begin with. I was impressed the consulate knew so much about mom but this is the same consulate who ask me what the Tunisia consulate's phone number was otherwise they would have to get their answer from Google.



Later when I asked mom about her work and she said she did in fact work at the hosptial where Libyian politicians, high level military and their families go to for their medical care. She said Ghadafi has 7 Ukrainian nurses taking care of him around the clock and he needed lots of injections because he was very ill. I told mom I suspect he needed lots of injections because he has drug addictions. Mom also told me Libyian police was given large doses of narcotics to keep them tough and under Ghadafi's control.



After A passed the interview we went back to the apartment. Mom opened the door and walked away and sat on the couch and had tears coming out of her eyes. I didn't say anything but after she got over it an hour later, I went up to her and gave her a hug and asked her “Why were you crying? Just last night you were laughing at me saying your problem will soon become my problem.” Mom asked me to promise her that I'll let A come back to Ukraine to visit occasionally.



I'm not surprised that A passed her interview easily. My governement passed the I-129F and they had all my correspondence with A since day 1. Same with the consulate. I never wrote or said anything to A that I'm ashamed of. Out of all the ladies I wrote, I'm not going to sweat if my words tare shared with their mothers. For those that still think I'm a pervert or breaking the law, I hope this settles it.  :rolleyes2: 







To clarify, this is how Dictionary.com defines submitting:


sub·mit   [suhb-mit] verb,-mit·ted,-mit·ting.verb (used with object)
1. to give over or yield to the power or authority of another(often used reflexively).
2. to subject to some kind of treatment or influence.
3. to present for the approval, consideration, or decision of another or others: tosubmitaplan;tosubmitanapplication.
4. to state or urge with deference; suggest or propose (usuallyfollowed by a clause): Isubmitthatfullproofshouldberequired.





Sounds awful. It's awful to listen to the boss at work but it's ok when he hands you a paycheck? I'm not suggesting women submit to stupid men with little or no reward/benefit. If a woman finds a wise man to marry and submits to his decision making, family life and life in general will be good. A good wise man also lets his wife make many decisions because he factored in her happiness as part of creating a happy family.




Sorry, doing what you would do anyways even when single is not being "submissive."




If RW they told me that, I would not visit them. If I told a woman that if she marries me, cooking, doing laundry, and cleaning house won't matter because she's doing that already, she'll stop writing me due to my lack of brains. Of course their job doubles within marriage and a man's expendable finances for himself gets halved. A man who marries and takes care of kids has less money to buy toys for himself than a single man with the same job.






The absurdity of this statement alone makes me think that you are pulling our leg.



I was serious about the statement. Mom want's her daughter to have a wonderful life in all departments and one department is sex. One reason I like to have mom around is for the few moments I get to see her teach A and watch A's reaction. A is not a rebellous teenager who dismisses parents advice or is embarrassed to talk about sex with parents. A soaks everything up like a sponge. Everybody needs to remember A's mom is a doctor and she's probably had many intimate conversations with patients pertaining to their problems in life. She is a very open woman who shares her experiences and doesn't want her family to have bad experiences. I've had many conversations about sex with women in the past. Based on how many posters here are uneasy about it, I believe they don't have the same experience and that is a sad thing especially if they're married. Husband and wife, boyfriend and girlfriend should be able to talk about sex openly. I don't care if moms want to join in. Parents should teach our kids how to have a happy marriage.






Maybe you relish controversy?



I've had thousands of posts before this thread. Those posts are much different than what is written here. Most people knew me as a guy who always had a wonderful pretty RW but now I'm single, I want to share how I get into a relationship with a wonderful woman before actually getting there. There's only a few grumpy men that are making the most noise. Most people can handle what I'm saying. Even a couple of RW showed me where to buy some panyhose and lingerie to make A sexier. After all that I wrote some posters want to help me improve relations with A. Most of the controversy are coming from people who are making up stuff and misinterpreting the law. They can't accept if I can catch quality women, I might be better than them so there must be something terrible wrong with me. There was a point in this thread where A's estimated age was 15 and my estimated age was late 40's. Over a 30 year age gap when our age gap is 22. It doesn't get bigger or smaller yet people kept making it bigger. Some have gotten themselves worked up over the things they imagine and then go off on me. Take a look a Globetrotter.



"If my marriage lasts for only one night, it will be worth it." Wow, what a high bar he has set!!!





Where did I say that? Quote me. A few months ago you told everybody I bragged how good I am at oral sex and no woman can resist me. I asked you to quote me and you didn't.

In your posts you insult me yet you wish me well. You call be a jerk and then you tell people you don't dislike me. You admit to reading only parts of this thread yet you feel qualified to make a prediction on my relationship. You haven't been right in this thread yet so I'm thankful you didn't predict my marriage a success. It's amusing to see some of you make stuff up about me, actually believe what you imagine, work yourselves into a frenzy, go on attack and then say you don't hate me and wish me the best.



Bingo!~




Bingo that I relish controversy with all or just with you and a few others? I'm certainly not afraid of controvery. I think different and I get different results.



I can say is that IMHO sounds like a fairytale.





A fairytale is a good thing. Better than a nightmare but what if all this is true? During my robust dating days a few people didn't believe. After I found A, you're now the second person that announces that you have a hard time believing. For a little cash, I will submit some evidence and use the proceeds to feed hungry RW or you can wait and see some photos of A and I standing nears some landmarks in America.



The 'I am an exception.' and 'Because I can' of which Billy exudes both.





Where did I say "I'm the exception"? More stuff made up that you believe in and you guys claim I'm pissing you off? You're working your own selves up. I'm not the exception and I said anybody can get the results I'm getting if you fix yourself up. Guys who have success with women can agree with that 100% and don't feel insecure when someone makes those kind of statements.




As such the thread remains active, primarily for entertainment purposes.




For some of you I write drivel, crap, bullsh!t, rant, make hilarious statements, a criminal, an idiot, a jerk and so on. You've become embarrassed to the point you have to provide everyone with an excuse as to why you are addicted and keep coming back to read. Go figure?



Forget about A's age. For those who took time to read, a lot of people understand how wonderful she is. Big heart, great character , wonderful personality and she's motivated to making her marriage work. Guys pursuing RW hope to find a woman like her and that is why this thread is interesting for them. They don't read for entertainment. If one considers this entertainment, why all the emotional outbursts? Do you do that at the cinema too? One of the reasons I wish some of you would talk more about your wives is to show me there is a better woman out there. I'm all ears to learn if I'm wrong in my interpretation on what wife material is. Prove to me I'm wrong and living fantasy.




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Sperm is NOT carcinogenic. I'm surprised that Mr. Billy's soon to be MIL, being a doctor and all that, did/has not corrected him from this really stupid statement. The reason I mention this is because more often than not glamour magazines and tabloids in the former Soyuz are always raving about the anti-aging properties of sperm when ingested.



Learn to Google and you will learn sperm/semen is Carcinogenic. Semen has high doses of minerals in it so ingested or using it on your teeth is healthy. Sometimes the mineral content in semen is 600 times the level of the rest of your body. Ingesting semen is temporary but if it stays in one spot, like in your nutsack, 24/7 for months, it will be carcinogenic. Look at it in the same way as alcohol. A glass of wine per day isn't bad for you but high doses of alcohol in your body for long lengths of time will be harmful.



http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3942-masturbating-may-protect-against-prostate-cancer.html
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1593 on: November 08, 2011, 03:41:51 AM »

Learn to Google and you will learn sperm/semen is Carcinogenic. Semen has high doses of minerals in it so ingested or using it on your teeth is healthy. Sometimes the mineral content in semen is 600 times the level of the rest of your body. Ingesting semen is temporary but if it stays in one spot, like in your nutsack, 24/7 for months, it will be carcinogenic. Look at it in the same way as alcohol. A glass of wine per day isn't bad for you but high doses of alcohol in your body for long lengths of time will be harmful.



http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3942-masturbating-may-protect-against-prostate-cancer.html

From your laughable interpretation you are, in fact, incapable of actually understanding what is written in that article. No real surprises there I guess.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1594 on: November 08, 2011, 07:39:47 AM »

When A was called, I went up to the interview's window with her. He was the first American we encountered at the consulate. He asked us both to raise our hands and swear we will tell the truth etc... He asked me a few simple questions and then ask me to return to my seat. A was asked general questions such as how many sisters I had and about me. I could here A's voice was cheerful and I understood her nervousness went away.


Is this new? Given that my experience was when I was applying along with Moses to leave for the promised land, I remember the interviewer told me to take a seat because this had nothing to do with me. And she insisted that I sit down before she would interview my wife. Also, there was no "raising hand and swearing to god" routine.





A fairytale is a good thing. Better than a nightmare but what if all this is true?



Absolutely. What if it is true?



For some of you I write drivel, crap, bullsh!t, rant, make hilarious statements, a criminal, an idiot, a jerk and so on. You've become embarrassed to the point you have to provide everyone with an excuse as to why you are addicted and keep coming back to read. Go figure?


I would not say I'm embarassed. I certainly don't feel that way. BUT, please, don't pat yourself so hard in the back. I'm not addicted to this drivel. It is more like comedy relief.



Forget about A's age. For those who took time to read, a lot of people understand how wonderful she is. Big heart, great character , wonderful personality and she's motivated to making her marriage work. Guys pursuing RW hope to find a woman like her and that is why this thread is interesting for them. They don't read for entertainment. If one considers this entertainment, why all the emotional outbursts? Do you do that at the cinema too? One of the reasons I wish some of you would talk more about your wives is to show me there is a better woman out there. I'm all ears to learn if I'm wrong in my interpretation on what wife material is. Prove to me I'm wrong and living fantasy.


Now Billy. I really, really hope and pray that you and her have a good marriage. You feel confident that she will work hard at making the marriage work. A bit of unsolicited advice, it takes two to tango. IF she does all the work, eventually she will get tired of working on the marriage alone and that is the main problem for most of the divorces. You'll have to pull your weight too.



Learn to Google and you will learn sperm/semen is Carcinogenic. Semen has high doses of minerals in it so ingested or using it on your teeth is healthy. Sometimes the mineral content in semen is 600 times the level of the rest of your body. Ingesting semen is temporary but if it stays in one spot, like in your nutsack, 24/7 for months, it will be carcinogenic. Look at it in the same way as alcohol. A glass of wine per day isn't bad for you but high doses of alcohol in your body for long lengths of time will be harmful.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3942-masturbating-may-protect-against-prostate-cancer.html

Thanks Billy. But I have spent a lifetime assessing toxic effects of compounds to know a little bit better. For your peace of mind, I'd stick to the advice I gave you.
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1595 on: November 08, 2011, 07:45:11 AM »
 
 
BillyB,
 
Congratulations!  I hope your forthcoming marriage brings happiness to you and A.
 
Your description of the interview was good.  Also, so was the reaction of A's mama.  Other than that, you wrote a lot - IMO more than what was necessary.  Rather than constantly trying to defend your philosophies, why not ignore your detractors?  You will not change and neither will they. It becomes a wall of words.
 
I have one piece of advice:
 
 

 It's awful to listen to the boss at work but it's ok when he hands you a paycheck? I'm not suggesting women submit to stupid men with little or no reward/benefit. If a woman finds a wise man to marry and submits to his decision making, family life and life in general will be good. A good wise man also lets his wife make many decisions because he factored in her happiness as part of creating a happy family.
 

A 22-year age gap is not small, but less than some other marriages to include mine.  A probable source of conflict is the fact that A is still blossoming.  Her future expectations for a marriage may differ from what she feels today.
 
I know you are a very wise man (T-I-C smiley), yet I learned a long time ago that no matter how smart one person is, two heads are smarter than one.  I always felt emotionally close to a woman when we were able to deal with an issue as synergistic partners.  Women too find it fulfilling.  And the solution is better than what I would have done on my own.  Please don't respond here - just file that away for the future.  My wedding gift to you.

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1596 on: November 08, 2011, 08:03:58 AM »
I certainly agree with Gator here Billy. You are just wasting your time having to respond to all the useless post that some here choose to write because they have a problem with your relationship with A or what you post. Just ignore them and carry on with the story. I'm very happy that A was approved for the visa. I have one question though. How long did it take between the time of the interview and A getting her visa? I'm just curious because I plan on going through this process next year and want to be there when my Lena has her interview.I want to be able to time it all just right. Again, Congrats!!!!!! :clapping:
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1597 on: November 08, 2011, 08:14:51 AM »
If a woman finds a wise man to marry and submits to his decision making, family life and life in general will be good.


So what are you going to do Billy to make sure that life will be good?  :ROFL:

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Learn to Google and you will learn sperm/semen is Carcinogenic.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3942-masturbating-may-protect-against-prostate-cancer.html


If you read the article, you would know that it is not the sperm that is carcinogenic but the accumulation of carcinogens found in the blood, carcinogens that entered the blood stream from smoking for example, that then end up in much greater concentrations in the fluid found in the prostate. Or as the article you yourself cite: "Studies in dogs show that carcinogens such as 3-methylcholanthrene, found in cigarette smoke, are also concentrated in prostate fluid."

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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1598 on: November 08, 2011, 10:06:58 AM »
 
Billy-
 
Congrats to you and A on the interview!
 
Thanks for taking the time to share your story. . .
 
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Re: Life Changes...Part Deux
« Reply #1599 on: November 08, 2011, 10:18:49 AM »
the accumulation of carcinogens found in the blood, carcinogens that entered the blood stream from smoking for example, that then end up in much greater concentrations in the fluid found in the prostate. Or as the article you yourself cite: "Studies in dogs show that carcinogens such as 3-methylcholanthrene, found in cigarette smoke, are also concentrated in prostate fluid."
Did they use a breed of smoking dogs as test subjects :o?

Could closeness to a smokinghotkova be similarly hazardous :D? We urgently need to know of any inherent health dangers ;).
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