Life Changes...Part Deux

[GQBlues]

....So see, I want to know all about his adventures, I would be very disappointed if he does not share any more of his wisdom and life story (never mind mind blowing sexual techniques) with me.
 
As for A, I expressed my feelings about this marriage before however since they are together now I'd like to know how they get on. Preferably in the same level of details as I was informed about plans and house rules. 

Billy has kindly shared some of the detail. We already know that he is force-feeding A:
"I don't care if you're not hungry but at least take a bite"

Now, let's wait and see how deep Billy's magnetism can penetrate into A's foie gras

LOL!!! This is too funny! Now to complete this scene, we'll just need a few bags of sunflower seeds, colorful babushkas, a concreted stair props, and half-rolled, knee-high stockings....   

[Ranetka]

Now, let's wait and see how deep Billy's magnetism can penetrate into A's foie gras

Now that's what I call elegantly put. I shall note this expression in my pink and gold notebook.
 
 

[pitbull]

So far so good.
 
She is happy, BillyB is happy so Ranetka wants more details to be happy too
I understand she is young and pretty and you feel fatherly towards her   but...
 
BillyB was happy to share with us his sexual fantasies, preferences and plans, I see no harm in sharing with us how the plans are implemented.  Like was her mother instructions good enough?
 
Billy could have said he was too explicit at some point and that he regrets it now but he has not.
 
So yeah, RWs expect to know...He already said A will not see this thread anyway so whats the harm? I already know that she was a virgin and that BillyB informed her mother that he likes his testicules fondled and that her mother promised to educate her daughter (I never asked for this information, mind you) so I just want to know did MIL iformed A or not? Surely, given all the prior info this is an expected and reasonable question?

Couldn't have said it better... +100 from Pitbull

[mies]

 

thank you, Ranetka
 

[Gator]

We already know that he is force-feeding A.....Now, let's wait and see how deep Billy's magnetism can penetrate into A's foie gras

Clever, very clever.

[Globetrotter]

Well, if Billy Boy is now actually shucking and jiving, I think he should be calling/Skyping his Mother-in-law for more advice to see if he's doing it correctly!

[BillyB]

 
The past couple of days A has thoroughly cleaned the kitchen. I cleaned it before she arrived and thought it was satisfactory but she cleaned in places I didn't know existed. She took all the dishes and food out of the cupboards and cabinets and cleaned every square inch of the place. The sponges and wash rags were turning brown. I was embarrassed. I did have a good excuse though. I told her "This is how a single man lives. What do you expect?"
 

Aha, the manly man has chickened out! After all the great built-up for this of the story! I can only imagine things are far from great in the sex department.  
 

Maybe the manly man has to honor his word to maintain his manly status.
 

Dan only asked not to include "graphic details of sex play". I'm asking for a general update, no details 

I will give some updates on how we're progressing. Some of my relatives have expressed the same concerns some here have mentioned. Because of A's age and potential to change her ways of thinking and beauty which will attract a lot of attention, they have wondered if our relationship will last long. I told them what I've told you guys. A has exceptional character and good people tend to grow into better people and she has strong personal and religious beliefs about marriage.
 
Maybe A will discover I'm not perfect and she will leave me? If a man is a fantastic lover, a woman can forgive some faults of his. 
 

What is As real first name?

Dale

Not that I don't trust you Dale but I want to keep A's name a secret for now. Some people are malicious and Harb who earlier in this thread claimed to know A and mom still needs to name them to prove he's not a troll.
 

on these new photos, A looks to me:
1) tense, shy, subdued
2) sad or tired
3) reserved, possibly sad or tired
4) reserved, possibly tired
5) sad

Compare these photos to any of the photos of A you posted here earlier, and if you do not see the difference I'd say you are ignoring your partner's emotional state.
Unlike in her older photos from Lybia and Ukraine, in the newer photos from USA A never looks happy and self-confident/playful.

I thought the photos looked good to me. A was happier than I was. You mention playful. A plays with my ear and puts her hand on my face and head on my head many times. When I'm driving I put one hand on the wheel and one hand on her thigh and she doesn't resist. A is very friendly with my relatives and it's important to her that she is accepted by them. If she didn't care about me, I don't think she would care about them.
 

Oh.. and Thanksgiving with paper plates?

Maybe did not go across so well?

A mentioned about the paper plates and plastic eating utensils. It was not as she dreamed after watching American movies of a nice beautiful Thanksgiving. Gator understood. I explained to A my relatives have about 4-5 family gatherings a year. Sometimes it's hosted at my parents house or other relatives houses. Nobody has enough silverware and dishes for 50 people so it's easier to use plastic and paper and of course the ladies have much less dishes to wash. I told A that when we have our family Thanksgiving dinner alone, we can do it just liked she dreamed about.
 

this thread is the first one I check when log in, sometimes I only check this thread.
If not for Billy and his sharings I probably would not read RWD at all   
 

Thank you Ranetka. I'm flattered but I consider plenty of other discussions here valuable and worth reading for those men and women who intend to pursue an international relationship. I've talked about sex earlier in this thread and I know the ladies were reading with interest but were mostly silent. Now I've gone silent and the ladies are upset! I like to please women and I will try to continue to please you so you come(no pun intended) back for more.
 
 

[Jumper]

If a man is a fantastic lover, a woman can forgive some faults of his.

Hey  your macho confidence is good..
 
 but really you've made it clear that  she has no point of reference to actually know..one way or the other.
 
 
 
So I'm sure it will work out for you..
 

[OlgaH]

Hey  your macho confidence is good..
 
 but really you've made it clear that  she has no point of reference to actually know..one way or the other.
 
 
 
So I'm sure it will work out for you..

Is not it true that bad lovers with big egos  prefer sexually inexperienced partners? 

[Jumper]

Was just joking with billy,
 
 I think most couples work things out in that department,
it's not rocket science, or truly complicated.
 
I can understand the RW wanting to know if the mothers advice was adequete..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[OlgaH]

Jumper, there's some truth behind every joke 

[BC]

This is love story
Vladivostok - Trip Report
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1976.0

Yes, Muckracker wrote with class.

He also wrote in past and present tenses, more in line with the meaning of 'report' rather than projecting with use of the future tense.

[Spoon]

Yes!
 
I want to know if the relationship has been consummated and also if the famous eye-opening technique of ball grabbing had been succesfully applied

Of course, the extent of eye opening is intrinsically linked to the force applied during the said 'ball grab' technique. One mistake and you'll be looking like Marty Feldman for a while 

[BC]

Jumper, there's some truth behind every joke 

Indeed.

[ecr844]

What a cluster Fu*&

[kmin]

What a cluster Fu*&

I think the proper term is "soup sandwich" 

[mies]

I thought the photos looked good to me. A was happier than I was. You mention playful. A plays with my ear and puts her hand on my face and head on my head many times. When I'm driving I put one hand on the wheel and one hand on her thigh and she doesn't resist. A is very friendly with my relatives and it's important to her that she is accepted by them. If she didn't care about me, I don't think she would care about them.

Billy, by "playful" I meant her facial expression. In her old photos from Ukraine/Lybia she looks self-confident and playful. In her new photos from USA she no longer looks this way. She looks somewhat subdued, reserved, or sad, or maybe tired.

 If you didn't notice it, it means that either you cannot read women and don't know/understand women that well as you are trying to convince everyone on this board, or that you choose to ignore obvious signs.

I think you should not try to impress anyone with your success, and should not deny A the possibility of being homesick, or the need to adapt to new life/new country, or the understandable discomfort from changing her life and lifestyle and moving from her home to someone else's home, and the need to share the home with a man. You should also stop dominating her, and stop forcing her to do things. There is nothing masculine or "alpha-" in dominance over weak and dependent. If you are a real man, you would not need to do that. I hope you are.
Otherwise, this will not do any good neither to her, nor to you in a long-term. 

Probably my advice will fall upon deaf ears.. but maybe.. just maybe. you'll take a moment to read and try to understand what I wrote.

[Hammer2722]

Billy, by "playful" I meant her facial expression. In her old photos from Ukraine/Lybia she looks self-confident and playful. In her new photos from USA she no longer looks this way. She looks somewhat subdued, reserved, or sad, or maybe tired.

 If you didn't notice it, it means that either you cannot read women and don't know/understand women that well as you are trying to convince everyone on this board, or that you choose to ignore obvious signs.

I think you should not try to impress anyone with your success, and should not deny A the possibility of being homesick, or the need to adopt to new life/new country, or the understandable discomfort from changing her life and lifestyle and moving from her home to someone else's home, and the need to share the home with a man. You should also stop dominating her, and stop forcing her to do things. There is nothing masculine or "alpha-" in dominance over weak and dependent. If you are a real man, you would not need to do that. I hope you are.
Otherwise, this will not do any good neither to her, nor to you in a long-term. 

Probably my advice will fall upon deaf ears.. but maybe.. just maybe. you'll take a moment to read and try to understand what I wrote.

Are you kidding me Mies?????? The lady just moved half way around the world to a new country and left her family. How do you expect her to feel and look????? Of course she will be a little depressed. Who wouldn't?????? It's what most people would call culture shock!  Sheesh! 

[Ravens9273]

Are you kidding me Mies?????? The lady just moved half way around the world to a new country and left her family. How do you expect her to feel and look????? Of course she will be a little depressed. Who wouldn't?????? It's what most people would call culture shock!  Sheesh! 

First to start my reply to you.
 
 
 
Guess what hammer? I can use that too.
 
You seem to want to be Billys Knight in shinning armour.
You pretty much attack those who do not approve or who find this relationship to be sick. (just for your information Hammer. 99.9% of the world finds this relationship to be sick) One thing I have learned in life is people who are the same will always defend each other.
Since you go so far out of your way to defend Billy and his honor it tells alot about you as well. This also says you are into teenagers and underaged girls (say all you want. She was 17 when this started).
I did not comment to your previous posts trying to insult me because I already see what type of person you are. For that reason your opinion about mean is worthless in my eyes.
 
Your above comment to Mies also says you are another "I know it all" just like Billy.
You previously tried to play know it all with me before concerning laws in Washington state to communicating this underaged persons. Well you were wrong their as well. Before you try to play high and mightly you may want to actually spend a minute or two using google.
 
As to your comments to Mies.
A just arrived. Just arrived to what is suppose to be the love of her life. If she is already depressed (I am not saying she is because I do not know her just commenting on the above) then something else is wrong. Being here for a week I would not use the term culture shock. If that was true then this girl could never go on vacation. Her first week here would be normal excitement for seeing any new place she has never been before. After that original excitement leaves then the other can set in. If she is unhappy already this is involved with the situation here. Not what is going on in Ukraine and who she misses etc.... Sheesh!
Hey I can do that too.
Lets throw a few more of these in there too 
 

[Hammer2722]

Just shows that you know absolutely nothing about how I feel about this Ranetka!!! Personally, I too do not approve of Billy's relationship with so young a lady but guess what? it's his thread and his life. I think you guys have already stated your feelings about how you all feel yet you keep on posting the same old drivel. It's gotten so old already. Get over it!!!!

[Ravens9273]

Just shows that you know absolutely nothing about how I feel about this Ranetka!!! Personally, I too do not approve of Billy's relationship with so young a lady but guess what? it's his thread and his life. I think you guys have already stated your feelings about how you all feel yet you keep on posting the same old drivel. It's gotten so old already. Get over it!!!!

If you truly felt that way then you would not go to the extent you have been defending him. You are taking others attacks against Billy personally. This shows in your responses.
If you are tired of hearing it over and over again then why keep coming back?? You treat this thread like it is your bible.
 
You defended a person who made the comment that if this only lasted for ONE night it was worth it.
You know what that comment says?
That says this is not love. That is lusting about having sex with a supose to be teenage virgin. To make that comment says that is all Billy is thinking about.
 
Hammer you have constantly defended this age gap. You even go all out everytime someone says 17 to point out she is 19. You hide the fact that everyone else points out it started when she was 17. But beside the point. He is a middle aged man hitting on a teenager. At that point does 17, 18 or 19 really matter?
People who defend this behavior dream of doing the same. You have been worshipping Billy since you started reading this thread. I would not be surprised to find out you have some shrine of Billy set up in your home.
Say what you want now but you are no different then he is. This is reason why some fathers need to buy shotguns to keep certain men away from their teenage daughters.

[Misha]

Are you kidding me Mies?????? The lady just moved half way around the world to a new country and left her family. How do you expect her to feel and look????? Of course she will be a little depressed. Who wouldn't?????? It's what most people would call culture shock!  Sheesh! 

Actually, the first few weeks of culture shock are the "euphoric phase" when everything is wonderful and exciting. The gruelling part of culture shock, the deep homesickness, frustration, depression, etc... comes much later. A should not be at this stage the first week or two after arriving.

[Misha]

I think you should not try to impress anyone with your success, and should not deny A the possibility of being homesick, or the need to adopt to new life/new country, or the understandable discomfort from changing her life and lifestyle and moving from her home to someone else's home, and the need to share the home with a man. You should also stop dominating her, and stop forcing her to do things. There is nothing masculine or "alpha-" in dominance over weak and dependent. If you are a real man, you would not need to do that. I hope you are.
Otherwise, this will not do any good neither to her, nor to you in a long-term. 

Very well said 

[acrzybear]

Just shows that you know absolutely nothing about how I feelut this Ranetka!!! Personally, I too do not approve of Billy's relationship with so young a lady but guess what? it's his thread and his life. I think you guys have already stated your feelings about how you all feel yet you keep on posting the same old drivel. It's gotten so old already. Get over it!!!!

As Billy's most vocal supporter and head cheerleader you have only attack the people that don't share your views.   

Billy is a big boy and can defend himself

[mies]

Are you kidding me Mies?????? The lady just moved half way around the world to a new country and left her family. How do you expect her to feel and look????? Of course she will be a little depressed. Who wouldn't?????? It's what most people would call culture shock!  Sheesh! 

1) Actually, Billy denied that A might be having a culture shock. I just pointed to him that A might be developing one, and that maybe Billy can be a bit more attentive to her emotional state and needs and forget his mantra "Russian women can stop a galloping elephant are strong, A adapted immediately and doesn't have any cultural shock nor does she feel sad."

2) i agree with Ravens and Misha on that culture shock usually kicks in after few weeks or even months in a new country. The first few weeks is like a honeymoon, then the real life begins. Been there, have a first-hand experience. You haven't.