hello everyone :)

[mialia]

 hello, to everyone, who is reading this .

first of all, I'm asking you to bare with my English hope it is understandable

Second, let me introduce myself: My name is Yuliya and I'm here to learn about you, guys, your fears and hopes, reasons and motivations, with the hope that it will help me in my own search of happiness . I want to know how does it look from your side. What do you see, when you open the profile of the woman, what do you want to see? What can push you away? what is attracting you? etc etc etc. From my side - i also will give you the answers on any question about Ukrainian women )

 

[Seeker]

hello, to everyone, who is reading this .

first of all, I'm asking you to bare with my English hope it is understandable

Second, let me introduce myself: My name is Yuliya and I'm here to learn about you, guys, your fears and hopes, reasons and motivations, with the hope that it will help me in my own search of happiness . I want to know how does it look from your side. What do you see, when you open the profile of the woman, what do you want to see? What can push you away? what is attracting you? etc etc etc. From my side - i also will give you the answers on any question about Ukrainian women )

 

Hello Yuliya, welcome to RWD.  And don't worry, you will get lots of opinions.  Some of them might even be worth reading (just kidding guys).

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask, but remember this is a very mixed group.  You will get every answer you can imagine.  And if I can think of any I will ask them too.

[knighta]

hello, to everyone, who is reading this .

first of all, I'm asking you to bare with my English hope it is understandable

What do you see, when you open the profile of the woman, what do you want to see? What can push you away? what is attracting you? etc etc etc. From my side - i also will give you the answers on any question about Ukrainian women )

 

Hello and welcome to the forum.  I didn't have any problems at all with your English.  As for myself when I open the profile of a woman I want someone who I am physically attracted to.  I also look at their interests, their character and what type of man they are looking for.  I also look at age.  When I was in an agency some women would write to me 18 to 22 years old which I felt was too young.  Other things which were part of my criteria is no children as I don't see myself a father to someone else child and a nonsmoker.  If I felt we were compatible then I would continue to write them. 

[BillyB]

As for myself when I open the profile of a woman I want someone who I am physically attracted to. 

Same for me. If I'm only looking for friends, I wouldn't care how a person looked but I'm looking for a woman I can live with. After I feel good about her appearance, I try to see if she has other good qualities I'm attracted to. If I was just looking for a bed buddy, I wouldn't care about her heart and soul but I'm looking for a woman I can live with.

How about you Yulia? What qualities do you admire in men? Since we have an age gap thread going on, how old are you and what ages of men would you consider for a life partner?

[SFandEE]

In general most of the discussion seems to support staying away from wide age differences--for example (18 to 50).  If you are open to an age difference, maybe leave it blank or focus more closely to what you prefer.  Wide ranges signal you'll take any age.

Another generality is the clothing (or lack of) that is being worn.  Men are looking for someone to whom they are attracted for a relationship.  If marriage is your desire, maybe think along the lines of clothing that shows your shape, but not too much.

I have been to Ukraine and Russia a few times.  You might want to make it clear you don't want just letter writing/phone/flower relationship.  This would indicate that you are not in this for business, but for a relationship.  The sooner agencies are out of the picture the better for a serious relationship.

For me--apart from someone who is attractive.  I am looking for education, culture, balance (no fantasy life language), good family, and has thought through actually leaving FSU and moving to America.  Most women don't do this and have little knowledge about America or the visa process.  I want a family with my wife, so if children are part of your hopes let men know that as well.  I find that good English speaking is important for me, so I would emphasize your English skills.  Maybe tell us how you learned your English and why. Some women say they have good English when they are barely comfortable with the smallest of talk.  As far as personality and character, share those as well in writing, but obviously it would be most important for those to qualities to be demonstrated by both the man and the woman.  If you are kind--make sure the man sees your kindness.  If you are playful, talented, loving the same.  You should expect the same from him.

There are ongoing discussions on other threads that men who seek relationships with women from Russia or Ukraine are risking an unhappy woman when she leaves her family, friends, and country for America.  The more you are confident in your decision and can communicate that you are sincere the better.

Hope things go your way!

[I/O]

What do you see, when you open the profile of the woman, what do you want to see?

Legs. 

[CanadaMan]

Hi Mialia,

Welcome to RWD!

I didn't understand what your Poll Question:      how does it look from the other side?
meant when I looked at it, especially with a
1. Like
2. Dislike
as the two possible answers.

So my answer shouldn't be taken too seriously. 

[mialia]

Hello Yuliya, welcome to RWD.  And don't worry, you will get lots of opinions.  Some of them might even be worth reading (just kidding guys).

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask, but remember this is a very mixed group.  You will get every answer you can imagine.  And if I can think of any I will ask them too.

 hello
thanks a lot for the offer and for the warning . I know ther is a mixed group, that's why i'm here - want to see the whole picture and for that i need all kinds of opinions

[Seeker]

 hello
thanks a lot for the offer and for the warning . I know ther is a mixed group, that's why i'm here - want to see the whole picture and for that i need all kinds of opinions

I am glad you are here.  We need more from the feminine side of this puzzle...

...questions, opinions, and answers... isn't that the reason we all are here (us single men)?


The 'whole picture' may not be possible to understand.  There are too many variables.  Differences in people, experience, expectations, goals, and agendas.  So at best all you can hope for is a sampling of a limited group of people, equally as sane or disturbed as anyone else you might meet.   

And then we add our own interpretation of it to the mix.  That is the best any of us can do. 

Thus the purpose of forums like this.  At least that is how I see it.

[seraphimangel]

I couldn't answer to poll, it was a little too vague. 

But if you're sincere in your question, here's my opinion.

I don't wear a mustache, I'm clean shaven, short hair, in good shape, have a good job and relatively young. 

I want a pretty girl with a vibrant personality.  I can't describe her personality because although I like sweetness, everything in life comes in moderation and suits different moments differently.

The simple best thing to put in an ad that warrants my attention beyond looks and life perspectives are the idea that you are serious in your search and wish to meet your potential within a year.  THEN, make it easy to communicate offline.

This has seemed to be the easiest way for me to tell that a girl is real about her intent.

I guess then my answer, what attracts me beyond looks/perspective is genuine effort and intent.

[mialia]

Hello and welcome to the forum.  I didn't have any problems at all with your English.  As for myself when I open the profile of a woman I want someone who I am physically attracted to.  I also look at their interests, their character and what type of man they are looking for.  I also look at age.  When I was in an agency some women would write to me 18 to 22 years old which I felt was too young.  Other things which were part of my criteria is no children as I don't see myself a father to someone else child and a nonsmoker.  If I felt we were compatible then I would continue to write them. 

hello and thank you for your answer all your requests are more than understandable, besides age topic, as for me . As we all know - there are few types of age - biological, psychological  and passport age, and there is a huge difference between all three of them often. if to take myself, as example, I'm 29 by passport, i  look like 25, i was told, and deep inside i feel myself like I'm around 40, i mean my attitude to the life, my values and so on. So how old am i for real? how to judge? only by passport?   for me question of age doesn't exist in the field of numbers, I'm trying to look wider maybe you will try once too?

[mialia]

Same for me. If I'm only looking for friends, I wouldn't care how a person looked but I'm looking for a woman I can live with. After I feel good about her appearance, I try to see if she has other good qualities I'm attracted to. If I was just looking for a bed buddy, I wouldn't care about her heart and soul but I'm looking for a woman I can live with.

How about you Yuliya ? What qualities do you admire in men? Since we have an age gap thread going on, how old are you and what ages of men would you consider for a life partner?

well... I'll sign above the appearance too, as you did, but... i think we put different meanings into this word. What is appearance for the men? it is: legs, breasts, lips and so on. fix me if I'm wrong    for me appearance has nothing in common with outlook. it is all about charisma, these special energy that makes even ugliest man irresistible for any woman. ) best example ever is Adriano Celentano, italian actor and singer, hope you heard about him and saw his movies, so you have kind of rough idea of what am i talking about even in his "around 70" years old i find him more attractive than Di Caprio believe me or not .

[Turboguy]

First off Mialia, welcome to RWD.  You have made some very interesting first posts and asked some great questions.

Having been a member of RWD for over 5 years and having read the thoughts of a lot of men I do think there are an awful lot of men who pay far more attention to the outside of a woman than the inside.  If they find a georgeous woman with great legs and nice brests they are gone even if she is a devil inside.

I have finished my search and found the most wonderful woman in the world but when I was searching it didn't matter to me if she was pretty or if she had nice breasts or great legs.  I needed something I found attractive about her,  but there were women I was interested in that were not attractive and some that were flat as a pancake.  What I looked for was a woman who I really enjoyed being with, who I respected and liked.  Someone pleasant and upbeat.  Someone I enjoyed talking to and spending time with.  Someone who made me happy and who I could make happy.  I ended up with a woman who is pretty but I really fell in love with her mind and her personality far more than her beauty.  I never cared about what her age was, how tall she was or how thin she was.  I always felt once you have spent a few thousand hours with someone the inner person is what you really have to live with.

[BillyB]

 for me appearance has nothing in common with outlook. it is all about charisma, these special energy that makes even ugliest man irresistible for any woman. ) best example ever is Adriano Celentano, italian actor and singer, hope you heard about him and saw his movies, so you have kind of rough idea of what am i talking about even in his "around 70" years old i find him more attractive than Di Caprio believe me or not .

I just took a look at Adriano Celentano's photos on the internet. He looks like a tough guy or a MAN. Funny you should mention Di Caprio. Many of the RW I've talked to don't find him attractive since he looks soft like a boy.

[seraphimangel]

Booo!

I'm not really considered masculine, just in decent shape.  Most people tell me I'm a very pretty looking guy... just more things that don't fare well for me on the russian market!

Gah!

[FredC]

Welcome Yuliya. I will try to add somethings that I look for, everyone looks for something different as far as attraction goes. I try to look for profiles and especially letters that really tell something about the person the wrote them. When I got a letter from a new lady, I wanted to know what she was like and what she was looking for. I have a good idea of who I am and what I was looking for. I think that is the best way to determine if you area good match. Now sometimes you can judge a person's personality by what they show you in what they write as much as what they say.

[SANDRO43]

I just took a look at Adriano Celentano's photos on the internet. He looks like a tough guy or a MAN.

Adriano was born in 1938, is now 72 and hasn't made any film since 1986 or thereabouts, his last album dates from 2008. He started out in the mid 1950s as our local version of Elvis Presley, and was dubbed il molleggiato (the springy fellow) for his gyrations during performances - as here in his 1962 version of Tower of Strength:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1A4l-eTFU[/youtube]

He's made a couple of TV serial programs in the past few years, famous for his long silences - he subsequently admitted they were mostly due to his forgetting his lines . He has his own ideas, particularly ragarding environment conservation and, while certainly a man, he never posed as a macho/tough guy figure. A more recent look of his:

Goes to show how one can draw strange conclusions from pictures .

[mialia]

Adriano was born in 1938, is now 72 and hasn't made any film since 1986 or thereabouts, his last album dates from 2008. He started out in the mid 1950s as our local version of Elvis Presley, and was dubbed il molleggiato (the springy fellow) for his gyrations during performances - as here in his 1962 version of Tower of Strength:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1A4l-eTFU[/youtube]

He's made a couple of TV serial programs in the past few years, famous for his long silences - he subsequently admitted they were mostly due to his forgetting his lines . He has his own ideas, particularly ragarding environment conservation and, while certainly a man, he never posed as a macho/tough guy figure. A more recent look of his:

Goes to show how one can draw strange conclusions from pictures .

thank you a lot will sign under your every word about this person  

[mialia]

I am glad you are here.  We need more from the feminine side of this puzzle...

...questions, opinions, and answers... isn't that the reason we all are here (us single men)?


The 'whole picture' may not be possible to understand.  There are too many variables.  Differences in people, experience, expectations, goals, and agendas.  So at best all you can hope for is a sampling of a limited group of people, equally as sane or disturbed as anyone else you might meet.   

And then we add our own interpretation of it to the mix.  That is the best any of us can do


here is my favourite story about humans ability to see things

three blind wisemen were asked to describe the elephant... first wiseman touched his leg and said that elephant look like the huge rough column; second wiseman touched the ear of the elephant and assumed that he looks like wide flat leaf, third man touched the tail and said that elephant looks like a snake.... so ... all of them said the truth, but none of them was right, 'cause didn't see the whole thing. ))) so, as for me, forums like this, is the only ability "to see the whole elephant" )))  from all possible sides







































































Thus the purpose of forums like this.  At least that is how I see it.

[mialia]

In general most of the discussion seems to support staying away from wide age difference's example (18 to 50).  If you are open to an age difference, maybe leave it blank or focus more closely to what you prefer.  Wide ranges signal you'll take any age.

Another generality is the clothing (or lack of) that is being worn.  Men are looking for someone to whom they are attracted for a relationship.  If marriage is your desire, maybe think along the lines of clothing that shows your shape, but not too much.

I have been to Ukraine and Russia a few times.  You might want to make it clear you don't want just letter writing/phone/flower relationship.  This would indicate that you are not in this for business, but for a relationship.  The sooner agencies are out of the picture the better for a serious relationship.

For me--apart from someone who is attractive.  I am looking for education, culture, balance (no fantasy life language), good family, and has thought through actually leaving FSU and moving to America.  Most women don't do this and have little knowledge about America or the visa process.  I want a family with my wife, so if children are part of your hopes let men know that as well.  I find that good English speaking is important for me, so I would emphasize your English skills.  Maybe tell us how you learned your English and why. Some women say they have good English when they are barely comfortable with the smallest of talk.  As far as personality and character, share those as well in writing, but obviously it would be most important for those to qualities to be demonstrated by both the man and the woman.  If you are kind--make sure the man sees your kindness.  If you are playful, talented, loving the same.  You should expect the same from him.

There are ongoing discussions on other threads that men who seek relationships with women from Russia or Ukraine are risking an unhappy woman when she leaves her family, friends, and country for America.  The more you are confident in your decision and can communicate that you are sincere the better.

Hope things go your way!

hello, thank you for your extensive response ) it was helpful agree with what you have said here totally, especially about language question. let me explain a little bit... when  woman say she speaks English well..  in my country English is very popular to study at school as a foreign language, we have choice between English, German, Spanish and French, but English is the most wanted. so there are a lot of women in my country that able to speak English. but.. it is only the school programme. ) so when they say i speak English good - they don't lie, they probably had a high mark at school, so they estimate themself according to that mark, they simply don't know that school programme has nothing to do with a real talk i thought i speak English good too till i went to work to the English speaking country so.. my English skills are from school programme, one year of living in South Africa and my curiosity when i hear or see the word i don't know - i won't sleep till i know what does it mean ))))

[JR]

Welcome Yulia,

What do I want to see in your profile? You...it is as simple as that. Good photos and an honest expression of who you are and what you are looking for.

Always be a first rate-version of yourself instead of a second-rate version of someone else. )))

[SFandEE]

Glad to meet you Yuliya and I am also glad that my comments were helpful.  I appreciate your thoughts on language skills, this makes sense.  I understand your passion for learning a new language, since Spanish is my strongest non-English language.  My challenge for Russian is that my brain first wants to go to Spanish and then Russian.  When I am in Ukraine for a while it begins to stop doing this, but sometimes it makes for funny situations.

You mention that you are curious about profiles.  Since you are sincere in searching for love abroad.  What would be your expectation of a good response to your profile?  (Five a week, ten a week, one a week?) I imagine the response could vary a great deal for a lot of reasons.  

[Seeker]

here is my favourite story about humans ability to see things 

three blind wisemen were asked to describe the elephant... first wiseman touched his leg and said that elephant look like the huge rough column; second wiseman touched the ear of the elephant and assumed that he looks like wide flat leaf, third man touched the tail and said that elephant looks like a snake.... so ... all of them said the truth, but none of them was right, 'cause didn't see the whole thing.  ))) so, as for me, forums like this, is the only ability "to see the whole elephant"  )))  from all possible sides 

That is one of my favorite teaching stories. 

And a great way to look at things. 

[Jalapeno]

Welcome to RWD Yuliya.
You asked quite a few questions in your posts, so I will try to answer from my experiences. I have been to Russia twice and recently had a Kazak girl visit me in the US. Even though I had spent some time with these girls, not everything about them clicked, so I'm still looking. The thing that attracts me first is the legs and how they dress. Then I talk with them and see how they perceive life and their goals. I love the accents as well and a smiling face is always a must.
They ranged from limited English to fluent, but if you talk to anyone, English is the hardest language to learn. They also ranged from never traveled outside of their country to world traveler.
High maintenance and stubborn personalities are a turn-off. Down-to-Earth women mark high on my list also someone who is curious about exploring the world together.
Where in Ukraine do you reside?
What other sites (if any) are you searching for Mr. Right.

[kievstar]

Jalapeno, English is not the hardest language to learn.  Try learning Russian.  English may have a lot of slang but not hard to learn.