My Trip to Secret City in FSU

[Ade]

As I suspected and wrote about months earlier; a WMVM trip report simply will not be permitted here.

OK, as you wish.

Very melodramatic.

But I see no one stopping you so I guess you just can't handle the inevitable criticisms. No surprise there then.

[Gator]

  Anyone remember " Sex Tourist" and his highly entertaining thread? Funny as hell.  Does anyone remember SmoothOperator from the old and now dead RWG forum? 

Unfair.  So far, this is nothing more than a WMVM trip.  However, maybe it should be WMMVMM with the MM = "many, many." 

Regarding sex, my definition of sex includes more than holding hands and kissing a cheek (face cheek, that is   ).  Mars claims that he has felt only one little glow in his loins - no raging fire yet.

Also, Smooth Operator made this a game to amuse himself, deceiving women to believe he was interested in marriage and then laughing at them for being so stupid.  Heartless wanker.


 

[Shadow]

  Anyone remember " Sex Tourist" and his highly entertaining thread? Funny as hell.  Does anyone remember SmoothOperator from the old and now dead RWG forum? 

I do and Mars is not anything like him.  

Smoothoperator played a part on forums but seemed to be sensible in real life and almost never disclosed real information.

Mars is more straightforward and honest in what he posts, and I do not see a lot of difference between his former posts and the trip report. He knows what he wants and is trying to find it his way.

Mars: there will always be people who disagree with a report, regardless of what is written. Continue regardless of the criticism.

[Gator]

But I see no one stopping you so I guess you just can't handle the inevitable criticisms. No surprise there then.

SJ, if you had ever written a trip report, you would understand how philosophical criticisms derail the flow.

If someone believes they have a better philosophical approach, then he should do his own trip report to prove that it works.  However, all that it would prove is that it worked for him and his values.  They should restrain from petty, trite sniping of other people's reports.

Maybe trip reports should be in two categories - VO and VM.   The VO crowd is not allowed to view  VM reports because they can not restrain themselves and want to control others.  Reminds me of democrats.

[Faux Pas]

  The VO crowd is not allowed to view  VM reports because they can not restrain themselves and want to control others.  Reminds me of democrats.

WHOA!! You cam call me many things and they all be true up to and including SOB but, don't ever call me a democrat 

[Ade]

SJ, if you had ever written a trip report, you would understand how philosophical criticisms derail the flow.

If someone believes they have a better philosophical approach, then he should do his own trip report to prove that it works.  However, all that it would prove is that it worked for him and his values.  They should restrain from petty, trite sniping of other people's reports.

Maybe trip reports should be in two categories - VO and VM.   The VO crowd is not allowed to view  VM reports because they can not restrain themselves and want to control others.  Reminds me of democrats.

I don't do TRs for very good reasons as stated elsewhere.

You can't choose the feedback you get so if Mars didn't want the negative he should have posted it in the "sans response" sub section. It was his choice and he knew what was coming; so either he didn't and is dumber than people think or he's just playing the victim and trying to get sympathy.

[GregfromGa]

Again, I enjoy the trip reports. It brings back mammories of back in the day before I found the one. I found mine early and before this board was started. I only had a few trips prior but I tried to make the most of it. Knowing what I know now, I wish this board would've been around back in 2001. The trip reports re going to offend some but do carry on. There's a lot to learn for newbies reading them. For example "visit" and "meet" being interpreted differently. Maybe I missed it but in what city were most of these meetings taken place? Your memory is vivid and I appreciate your candidness and writing style. For those that cant, well that's what the ignore poster function is here for. But they wont do it. It reminds me of the "Seinfeld" episode about the painting of Kramer. "He's a loathsome offense brute, yet I cannot look away". Continue on my friend and remember more cowbell.

[SMS60]

There are many respectable, classy men involved in international dating and its on display for the world to see.

[tim 360]

As I suspected and wrote about months earlier; a WMVM trip report simply will not be permitted here.

OK, as you wish.

Nice marathon trip report Mars.  Don't be so timid --feel free to post your report on RWD.  Some may have some issues with it, but some don't.  You can easily see how some hold their own opinions to be superior to anothers opinion.  They would like trip reports to conform to their view.  Thats why so few trip reports are posted on RWD.

[Ade]

Nice marathon trip report Mars.  Don't be so timid --feel free to post your report on RWD.  Some may have some issues with it, but some don't.  You can easily see how some hold their own opinions to be superior to anothers opinion.  They would like trip reports to conform to their view.  Thats why so few trip reports are posted on RWD.

Actually, I think a lot of men that want to post TRs and don't, only want to have praise and complements and know that's just not going to happen here. If it were just about posting a TR to "help" others then they could post it unhindered in the "Sans responses" section.

[Velena]

Actually I like the whole concept! I think I should go to US, arrange several dates  with AM prior my trip and have a lot of fun.
I always wanted to visit US and this is the way to do it! YES!!!!! 

[jb]

Actually I like the whole concept! I think I should go to US, arrange several dates  with AM prior my trip and have a lot of fun.
I always wanted to visit US and this is the way to do it! YES!!!!! 

I'm available any day but Friday, that's when I go fishing with my buds. 

Good plan IMHO.

[Velena]

jb, you are married! xxxx

[Faux Pas]

As I suspected and wrote about months earlier; a WMVM trip report simply will not be permitted here.

OK, as you wish.

If you don't have the solid brass kahonnas it takes to defend your choices and positions and get your feelings hurt by the comments of others, you really should post your TR in the Sans responses section. Short of that, post it here or don't post it at all. It is interesting and we would like to read it. However, if you choose not to, the sun will rise tomorrow and it will be business as usual at RWD

[Velena]

Mars, when is the next one? I am beginning to crave you!

[Miri22]

What is a "kahonnas"? Or did you mean "cojones"?

[jb]

jb, you are married! xxxx

That's true, but I'm still a fun date.

[Faux Pas]

What is a "kahonnas"? Or did you mean "cojones"?

Exactly. spell check didn't offer your spelling which is better

[Seeker]

As I suspected and wrote about months earlier; a WMVM trip report simply will not be permitted here.

OK, as you wish.

It isn't my style, but then you are not me.  I have no problem with your report.  Others may find things that bother them, and you should know by now that they will point it out.  It is the nature of the beast.  I don't think anyone is trying to stop you, just commenting between the chapters while waiting for the next one.

[JohnDearGreen]

Cautious Sensitive Guy (CSG):

>I sent out probably 900 or more first contact messages...
>This grouping was based on how closely a woman fit within my many criteria...
>Most all of the women were between the ages of 40 and 47.

You have many criteria but still found 900 ladies from age 40 to 47 to email?
Difficult to believe.

>It could very well be that she had zero interest in me or zero attraction toward me,
>but knew she had to play along the game to get what she wanted . . . whatever that might be.

Some of the ladies seemed to have a game plan, but you don't seem to have one. 
I get the impression that you are in constant "reaction mode":
a) send many canned letters, become attracted to the ones that write the best responses...
b) you seem to always wait to feel out the ladies attraction and interest in you...
c) waiting to see if the lady decides if she wants to come back to your apartment...

Have you considered a more proactive approach where you come on strong to the lady
(if you like her) and then see how she reacts to that?   

[Gator]

I don't do TRs for very good reasons as stated elsewhere.

You did not write a TR because you knew there would be sanctimonious people like you?

It is not easy to write these TR's.  And sniping and heckling along the way is disruptive.

Somehow I feel the amount of heckling is greater than the OP's posts.


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It was his choice and he knew what was coming; so either he didn't and is dumber than people think...[/quote]

Do you really believe that?

...or he's just playing the victim and trying to get sympathy.

Or that?  You are too smart to believe either.

SJ, for some reason you read his TR.  Do you think what Mars has written qualifies him as a sex tourist as some readers assert?   In older threads he has tried to talk about G Spot orgasms and the like.  However, I see nothing of that sort here.  JohnDear is suggesting that he should come on stronger. 

Some men when they shop for a suit stop looking when they find one that they like.  These are intuitive shoppers.   Analytical shoppers, OTOH, must examine every suit.  They are hardwired this way. They will not change.  This basic fact one learns in sales.   

Somehow Mars has to get from 900 to 1.  Let's see how he does that and what he experiences along the way (assuming he will continue).

[Doll]

VO and VM.

What is it?

[SomeGuy]

What is it?

VO = Visit One
VM = Visit Many
WM = Write Many
WO = Write One
Write 900 = ??? Write Many Many?

[facetrock]

  Gator. I dont think Mars is a sex tourist at all. I do think that Sex Tourist and SmoothOperator are the same person.
 Mars writing style is a little similar, just reminds me of ST or SO.
I actually was enjoying the trip report and hope he does continue it.
Its true trip reports are not easy to write. You try to tell your story and defend yourself at the same time.

[Doll]

Very melodramatic.

But I see no one stopping you so I guess you just can't handle the inevitable criticisms. No surprise there then.

SJ, drama!  
You know, I work in SPED. Kids with special needs have problems with gaining attention, this gaining is always their goal. One boy has a habit- right after he comes in    he yells, " So what- am I in trouble?"   Meaning he does want to be in trouble because it is easy and juicy.

It is same case.
See? I asked quite simple questions , he totally ignored them, yet commented my comments