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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2010, 11:34:04 PM »
I was just reading what one single RW wrote one her personal ad: "на каждых 10 девушек приходится 9 мужиков, да и те тупят." which translates: 'There are 9 men for every 10 girls and even those are idiots".

I would strongly advise against getting into a relationship with a woman like that, online or otherwise.. If she has THAT written in her public profile, God only knows how she REALLY feels about men. :D That said, I have encountered profiles with far more disparaging comments about men, indicating a woman with issues.. Like, I don't have time to fix what their ex's have broken. :wallbash:
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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 03:45:08 AM »
I have encountered profiles with far more disparaging comments about men, indicating a woman with issues.. Like, I don't have time to fix what their ex's have broken. :wallbash:
have you thought that MEN might be her "issues"? I've talked to several women here in Irkutsk. I am a social person and easily strike up a conversation with almost any one. Generally women feel trapped here. One girl told me: "I feel like I'm living on a submarine, where am I going to go? Can't get off it" Most women get approached by men who ARE mostly idiots looking for a quick roll in the hay. My client's now girlfriend was telling me how men act here. If a guy finds out that a woman has a good job, her own apartment, a car he might consider sort of an LTR. He will tell her right at date 1: "Hey, I'm moving in with you tomorrow" and he says it like he is doing her a favor. her girlfriend actually just broke up with such a dude. They lived together for 2 years and she was basically supporting him...up to the point where she found out that he had a personals ad and was looking for the next woman. If a woman meets a decent guy here, she'll try to hold on to him like her life depends on it. The general mood among women is "veeeeeeery frustrated with men". What my client found very different here is that there are many couples that wouldn't make sense in the USA, i.e. a real nerdy, dorky looking guy with a stunning looking girl. It's kinda like on that reality show "Beauty and the beast or the nerd" I beilive it's called. Only here the beauty is in a genuine relationship with the beast (the nurdy looking guy). Things are way different here from the US! Funny thing is that women don't believe it when I tell them that the situation is 180 degrees different in the US and men are the ones who have a hard time to find a woman who wants family and kids. They only know their reality and it's very hard to convince them.

I see many girls remove their profile after just a few days on the site just because they get bombarded by indecent proposals and idiotic messages from all these men. So yes, they do have an issue with men....the local men though - the ones who in some cases may make women to finally start considering a western man.
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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2010, 05:36:59 AM »
You will receive letters that waffle on for many paragraphs about nothing and photos with titles such as ‘A beautiful day at the beach’, ‘My lovely Granny’ and ‘My smile for you!!!’. Delete them without replying. Descriptive titled photos = scam … guaranteed.

If you are unsure then google a ladies email address (gmail is a red flag) and google parts of her letter in quotation marks. If you still have doubts thent PM me a link to a profile … I can tell instantly.

Absurd advice.

No one can tell a scam based on the title to a photo that has not even been opened.

gmail does not indicate a red flag.  Jeeeeez.  Millions of good people from all around the world have gmail accounts.

No intelligent, honest, and realistic man can be scammed. 

Read the profiles, look at the pictures, ignore what email carrier they use, read their first few letters.  Then you can tell the scammers; not by looking at titles of unopened pictures and email carriers.

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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2010, 08:09:49 AM »
yes miss H! I can look but I can not touch...the women! and I've been away from home for a month!
and...maybe we shouldn't hijack Joe's thread talking about this, and let him ask questions and get info from other members as well? What do you think?

And why would a man who is happily  married to a young (20 years younger than him) and beautiful woman, even think about touching other women and more over feel like "a kid in a candy store with his hands handcuffed behind his back;D

No, Eduard, it is not hijacking Joe's thread, it is reading between the lines. While you mention the myths by agencies, you actually repeat the same myths. Though, "a handcuffed kid in a candy store" maybe not a myth  ;D but a manifestation a Russian man's nature that tells.  ;D

Eduard, you story "is quite different from all members on the forum" only because you are Russian immigrant in US, but your experience most likely is not so unique and different from the members who are also married to women with 20 and more age gap  :)

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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2010, 08:40:24 AM »
And why would a man who is happily  married to a young (20 years younger than him) and beautiful woman, even think about touching other women and more over feel like "a kid in a candy store with his hands handcuffed behind his back;D

No, Eduard, it is not hijacking Joe's thread, it is reading between the lines. While you mention the myths by agencies, you actually repeat the same myths. Though, "a handcuffed kid in a candy store" maybe not a myth  ;D but a manifestation a Russian man's nature that tells.  ;D

Eduard, you story "is quite different from all members on the forum" only because you are Russian immigrant in US, but your experience most likely is not so unique and different from the members who are also married to women with 20 and more age gap  :)
in a word - nature. Any healthy man will look and admire  a beautiful woman. What you seem to fail to see is that there is a difference between just looking and actually going after women. I personally enjoy looking at women just as I enjoy looking at beautiful art work...."ooops, there goes a beautiful painting by Vrubel', oh my, look at that gorgeous piece by Monet! Funny thing is that women look at good looking and make comments to each other about, pumped up men too, but they would never admit it in public  :D!
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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2010, 08:56:13 AM »
What you seem to fail to see is that there is a difference between just looking and actually going after women.

There is a difference between just looking at women and feeling being "handcuffed" to touch them   ;D

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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2010, 04:00:46 AM »
Absurd advice.

No one can tell a scam based on the title to a photo that has not even been opened.

gmail does not indicate a red flag.  Jeeeeez.  Millions of good people from all around the world have gmail accounts.

No intelligent, honest, and realistic man can be scammed. 


I have been out of that phase for a couple of years but when I was in the letter writing stage I never saw a sincere women using gmail, or even Yahoo unless they had reloacated to the USA.   I mostly saw Yandex, mail.ru and a few others.   

I would have been very suspicious of a gmail, unless the letter content told me she was in the USA as a result of a failed k-1 etc. 

As far as the "No intelligent, honest, and realistic man can be scammed. ",   Having been scammed more than one, like some others here, thanks for the kind words.

I do have to agree with you that reading the profiles can be the best indicator.

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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2010, 05:10:27 AM »
Absurd advice.

No one can tell a scam based on the title to a photo that has not even been opened.

gmail does not indicate a red flag.  Jeeeeez.  Millions of good people from all around the world have gmail accounts.

No intelligent, honest, and realistic man can be scammed. 

Read the profiles, look at the pictures, ignore what email carrier they use, read their first few letters.  Then you can tell the scammers; not by looking at titles of unopened pictures and email carriers.




I think this is the tricky part (REALISTIC).

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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2010, 04:20:59 PM »
  Why would gmail be a red flag anyway? I never heard that one before.

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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2010, 04:27:32 PM »
  Why would gmail be a red flag anyway? I never heard that one before.

I agree that this one s a bit hard to understand. Certainly, Gala, Bigmir, Yandex and a couple of others are larger but its not a flag for me other than as an indication that the gal is more familiar with western standard mails systems such as Yahoo, Hotmail even Aol. Possible indicator of some more knowledge and familiarity with the west than usual but not a cautionary flag in my book.
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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2010, 09:12:45 PM »
I agree that this one s a bit hard to understand. Certainly, Gala, Bigmir, Yandex and a couple of others are larger but its not a flag for me other than as an indication that the gal is more familiar with western standard mails systems such as Yahoo, Hotmail even Aol. Possible indicator of some more knowledge and familiarity with the west than usual but not a cautionary flag in my book.

  Absolutely agree   :)
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Re: Just starting out, a few questions...
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2010, 04:14:28 PM »
  Why would gmail be a red flag anyway? I never heard that one before.

google some gmailers and you'll probably see the address pop up on scam sites. I always google a gmail account and more often than not it has been reported on multiple blacklists. A gmail account is just an indicator, not an end all.
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