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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2010, 02:38:33 PM »
newt

Kiev star is correct-(and scuplto)

agencies in general operate on the write /chat money.

a huge percentage of men do not do anymore than that ,
and that is where the money is.

you spent 80$,,  a few thousand guys do the same,.
(and most spend far more) and since most never travel ,
 it becomes truly irrelevent to the agency owner or many of the women, whether they are are
actually single, serious,  or not.it is a business, a pretty good one.
(mostly for the large american based website owners)

yes the local agencies  hire "terps as  writers" ,and yes they hire a staff of girls to *chat*, it isnt hard to find the ads for employment. Granted there are likely centers, with quite a few women working, but do you really think they hire ten thousand women?
(and of those would all be married? or would some still be seriously looking , regardless their *day job*? )

There are thousands of profiles ,many are legit
most of the profiles certainly have real women behind them.

Hand picking a few *knock outs*  is not representative of the thousands of profiles in a place like DM or anasatsia web,,

in any case i's guess that  the 34 yo with a child , is quite likeky a real person that you could meet if you were interesting
to her in your writing ..(note this just means simply meet her,nothing more )
additionally, once she agrees to a photo shoot , her displayed photos are not picked by her,but by the agency out of the enitre shoot..
 during the shoot she has latitude and decisions of course, but is certainly guided to dress as sexy and scantily as possible
,certainly to compete with all the 20yo photoshopped models..
(all the while the qagency gets more *hits* off a very sexy photo -win win right?)




i'm not saying you should use those agencies..
but most anyone with any FSU experience can look thru those sites and find legit women.
(and not by just avoiding  stunning 19-21 yo model types ,looking for up to a 70 yo guy)
  
Some websites or agencies have good or poor business mnodels, and you should avoid the ones that are poor.
as it increases your odds.

I think it is a case of *Curiousty killed the cat*?

you know it is a poor business model,and something is amiss, you know there are better methods (or at least are learning there are)


so- the real querstion is for you..!!

why the burning desire to know if any women there are legit?

if  you find out some are, will it change your path?
(if so, why?)

if you find out 5% are legit, is it enough to look there?
 
maybe 20%?   50%?
78%?
where is the magic number to rationalize looking there?


you want some legitimacy confirmed, , or non legitimacey --  concerete answers!!

but the first thing to realize is that  nothing in the FSU is that *black or white*
 
You could go there and likely meet any number of the 19 yo stunners.
(as often they are indeed quite "real")
so they are legit?
not really, it's a rather GREY area-
because how many would be serious about you,, or even interesrted in marriage is quite another story.
and of course some would be already "involved", others might have a real interest.

and thats the "bait and hook" ,that "possibilty" however remote it is?
and the agencies will continue to profit, because again, most guys never go anyway.


If i told you i have met  and dating a legit, sincere,and beautiful  woman that was signed up at DM, what good would it do you?
truthfully, probably more harm than good!!!

think about it?
as hope burns eternal..and in that business model ,it isn't a good thing for the man.. ;)
but to say all the profiles are all faked , isn't correct either, and many legitimate women are signed up there.

so you have your answers, and they are mostly grey..
but the prudent course of action shouldn't be any different, one way or the other?

« Last Edit: August 19, 2010, 02:51:32 PM by AJ »
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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2010, 03:22:14 PM »
Newt,  You have received some very accurate and honest advice and I hope you heed it well.  AJ's post and Sculpto, KS and Misha and others lay it out very clearly.  By and large the agencies make nearly all their money from guys who write and pay and never visit.  Some don't even want the guy to visit because possibly they could lose a pony in their stable.  Today it is tailored to be very user friendly and convenient for they guy so that he can keep paying and thousands and thousands of guys do just this.  Try to stay away from the write & pay sites, it is just an illusion to get you to pay money.

Try EM or free sites to get a better idea of what ladies are really interested in you because the agencies will just spam you with beauties in bikinis.  It is a fantasy.

This is not easy.  It would be much easier to marry a local girl.



"Never argue with a fool,  onlookers may not be able to tell the difference".  Mark Twain

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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2010, 03:56:26 PM »
But everyone loves me!  really they do!!!  I never start trouble!!!  ;)

Yes, I'm sure ... :D

You changed your avatar??  Is the girl someone you know??


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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2010, 04:33:07 PM »
newt

Kiev star is correct-(and scuplto)

agencies in general operate on the write /chat money.

a huge percentage of men do not do anymore than that ,
and that is where the money is.

you spent 80$,,  a few thousand guys do the same,.
(and most spend far more) and since most never travel ,
 it becomes truly irrelevent to the agency owner or many of the women, whether they are are
actually single, serious,  or not.it is a business, a pretty good one.
(mostly for the large american based website owners)

yes the local agencies  hire "terps as  writers" ,and yes they hire a staff of girls to *chat*, it isnt hard to find the ads for employment. Granted there are likely centers, with quite a few women working, but do you really think they hire ten thousand women?
(and of those would all be married? or would some still be seriously looking , regardless their *day job*? )

There are thousands of profiles ,many are legit
most of the profiles certainly have real women behind them.

Hand picking a few *knock outs*  is not representative of the thousands of profiles in a place like DM or anasatsia web,,

in any case i's guess that  the 34 yo with a child , is quite likeky a real person that you could meet if you were interesting
to her in your writing ..(note this just means simply meet her,nothing more )
additionally, once she agrees to a photo shoot , her displayed photos are not picked by her,but by the agency out of the enitre shoot..
 during the shoot she has latitude and decisions of course, but is certainly guided to dress as sexy and scantily as possible
,certainly to compete with all the 20yo photoshopped models..
(all the while the qagency gets more *hits* off a very sexy photo -win win right?)




i'm not saying you should use those agencies..
but most anyone with any FSU experience can look thru those sites and find legit women.
(and not by just avoiding  stunning 19-21 yo model types ,looking for up to a 70 yo guy)
 
Some websites or agencies have good or poor business mnodels, and you should avoid the ones that are poor.
as it increases your odds.

I think it is a case of *Curiousty killed the cat*?

you know it is a poor business model,and something is amiss, you know there are better methods (or at least are learning there are)


so- the real querstion is for you..!!

why the burning desire to know if any women there are legit?

if  you find out some are, will it change your path?
(if so, why?)

if you find out 5% are legit, is it enough to look there?
 
maybe 20%?   50%?
78%?
where is the magic number to rationalize looking there?


you want some legitimacy confirmed, , or non legitimacey --  concerete answers!!

but the first thing to realize is that  nothing in the FSU is that *black or white*
 
You could go there and likely meet any number of the 19 yo stunners.
(as often they are indeed quite "real")
so they are legit?
not really, it's a rather GREY area-
because how many would be serious about you,, or even interesrted in marriage is quite another story.
and of course some would be already "involved", others might have a real interest.

and thats the "bait and hook" ,that "possibilty" however remote it is?
and the agencies will continue to profit, because again, most guys never go anyway.


If i told you i have met  and dating a legit, sincere,and beautiful  woman that was signed up at DM, what good would it do you?
truthfully, probably more harm than good!!!

think about it?
as hope burns eternal..and in that business model ,it isn't a good thing for the man.. ;)
but to say all the profiles are all faked , isn't correct either, and many legitimate women are signed up there.

so you have your answers, and they are mostly grey..
but the prudent course of action shouldn't be any different, one way or the other?

(I wouldn't normally "quote" an entire long post like AJ's above, but I can't find it elsewhere???)

Thanks, AJ, for a VERY comprehensive "answer" to my question! :)  It is indeed very "grey" ...

I've moved on now -- to EM -- and I no longer "have to know" about D-M, fortunately ...

Try EM or free sites to get a better idea of what ladies are really interested in you because the agencies will just spam you with beauties in bikinis.

Boy oh boy, Tim, you just described the situation PERFECTLY -- "spamming with beauties in bikinis"!!!

Thanks, both of you ... :)

Kevin

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« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2010, 04:52:46 PM »
Is DM a legit agency. Depends on what you mean by legit. They serve a purpose. Most men just like to chat and fantasize in front of their computer while whacking off to the web cam.

HA!!! :D  Good one, facetrock!!! :D  I guess it's a good thing that *I* don't have a webcam ...  :P

 

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