Its mostly about finding a wealthy westerner, isn't it? :)

[Andreas]

Yep, this verifies my original thoughts that this is yet another keyboard romeo bozo.

World class weightlifter, fluent in English, attorney, has the highest billable hours in his firm (yet still manages to play video games for hours on end), If you're oging to pretend to be something you're not-you should do the research first.

I never said I was world class, only national level. The weights I put up in strongman might have been world class (at least some events) 10-15 years ago, but not today.

As for my English being fluent, I never claimed that. Some other members described my English as "impeccable" though, but not me.

I don't play video games for "hours on end", except if I have a (rare) off-day from training and its raining with nothing else to do. I prefer to play video games instead of watching TV though, but I don't have much time for either anymore.

[Andreas]

there are too many inconsistancies and my B.S meter (honed by years of fine tuning in numerous situations) pegged big time. 

....or maybe you're just a moron? Ever considered that? I think that's also a very plausible theory.

[ECOCKS]

....or maybe you're just a moron? Ever considered that? I think that's also a very plausible theory.

Hmm, no, not very (plausible).

[Lily]

Dears, please watch your language  :rulez:

[acrzybear]

....or maybe you're just a moron? Ever considered that? I think that's also a very plausible theory.

 HHmmmm, let me think about that    Nope, that's not it-which leads us back to the original highly probable original theory.  Have a good life  in that alternative world of yours.

[Kuna]

Andreas,

You might like to search out a member here named ambach.  He too was totally incapable of finding or maintaining a relationship - not because he wasn't finding the right girls... he'd not found himself.

Like you he spent a lot of time boasting about what he had and what he expected of a wife... but like you he always appeared to be overly confident,  probably trying to mask his (and your) insecurities.

I think most experienced men here would agreed you're weak social skills and poor ability for introspective analysis means this is going to be a costly, difficult and painful process for you.  Good women will generally not be interested in someone like you, and therefore you'd always have to be paranoid their just tolerating you to get what they want.

Don't fear though, even though Ambach took a constant bashing in here sometimes, at some point he appears to have changed.  He visited recently and I believe has now found his lady... maybe even married her I think.  The way he posts and his attitudes seemed to have changed dramatically, though after his early posts I'd always be cautious for anyone married to him.

Anyway,  spend some time maturing your own social skills...  try to be honest and identify your weaknesses...  gain some perspective on your life and what you have learned from your previous conduct and motivations...  Once you're ready the right girl will appear and you won't have to be so paranoid about them just tolerating you... maybe you'll even find someone who wants to actually be with you.

I know it's hard to accept because of your altered emotional state, but you just need to trust us when we say you're just not ready for anything real unless you're prepared to risk everything for your fantasy... because that's all I think it is right now... a fantasy.

[Gator]

Andreas,

Do you take any supplements as part of your weight training?  I apologize if this question was asked earlier.



Kuna,

I inferred from some posts you made years ago that you were involved even more years ago in some sport that required weight training.   I probably am wrong.  If true, however, I have a question for you because I consider you an excellent observer of people.  Do you see some personality traits common among people so zealous about weight training?

[JR]

 I have a question for you because I consider you an excellent observer of people.  Do you see some personality traits common among people so zealous about weight training?

OK, I'm not Kuna but I spend a fair amount of time in the gym and my friend/trainer has an impressive body. But his social skills were/are near zero. The gym is just another substitute for social interaction and the skills necessary to have a successful life outside of the ob cession. It is the obsessive behavior that interferes with the rest of a well rounded life and the development of interactive social skills.

Until importance is placed upon development of other areas of life and in particulate oneself there can be no meaning changes.

[Rubicon]

Andreas,

I think the kind of woman who will be attracted to you does not care if you are wealthy or not, to answer your title question.  as long as you have decent job, that is fine.  suspect a petite woman who likes big strong guys will like you very much.  as long as you are willing to cut back a bit on hours working and put the gym in the home, I think you can find a good wife for you!!

[Andreas]

Being called a liar irritates me. As I said, I was never "world class", but 600lbs+ in the deadlift at 240lbs body weight (with a 6"2 frame) is not half bad, especially not with a very loose suit:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBDk22epzP0[/youtube]

Some bench pressing (old video, I've been stronger). 170kg = (about) 380lbs:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc0E471sp4A[/youtube]

Log lifting 300lbs (when I was big and fat ):
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oak-mHMhf2E[/youtube]

Another video from my "fat, but strong" period:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuMA0AgGJiY[/youtube]

[Gator]

Andreas,

Thanks for sharing.  To be honest, my body felt pain just in watching your clips. 

You probably can't see the pleasure of chasing a little white ball for over 6000m around tress, water and sand.

We are all different.

[Rubicon]

these videos seem to show an overweight man, not very attractive in the face.  this, plus the overdedication to work and sport, might be why Andreas is not finding his ideal wife.

[SANDRO43]

Andreas, you seem to harbour the misconception that ALL should admire your physical accomplishments. Some may, apparently most DO NOT, and that probably includes a lot of FSUW who are not awed by weight-lifters, body-builders, and the like.

As others have already pointed out, your dedication seems to border on maniacal obsession, and you'd better devote more time to honing your social skills with women of whatever country. Hearing how many Kgs you last managed to lift may bore most to tears . 

[dbneeley]

Here's a thought--aren't there some female power lifters in the FSU? That might be the place to look for comparable interests and values.

Of course, true power lifters tend to run on the larger side, as you well know--but at least you could compare your muscles.

David

[ECOCKS]

Ironic Comedy.....

[acrzybear]

Ironic Comedy.....

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Ko3fODp3c[/youtube]

[Andreas]

these videos seem to show an overweight man, not very attractive in the face.  this, plus the overdedication to work and sport, might be why Andreas is not finding his ideal wife.

Most of these clips are old, I've lost about 30kgs (66 lbs) of body weight after injuries to both legs and my chest muscle. I have visible stomach muscles now (not quite a full six pack though). Thus the physical part should not be a problem (any more) as I've had sex with six different girls in the last three months (without much effort, actually), and I have some more "dates" lined up in January.  I'll admit that this is a quantum leap compared to how often I got laid when weighing 130kgs, but I still prefer strength over six pack abs.

[Andreas]

Andreas,

Thanks for sharing.  To be honest, my body felt pain just in watching your clips. 

You probably can't see the pleasure of chasing a little white ball for over 6000m around tress, water and sand.

We are all different.

Different strokes for different folks, isn't that what you Americans say?

One of the other partners in our firm is obsessed with golfing. As you predicted I've never really "gotten" golf.

[Gator]

Andreas,

I think you looked fine then. 

Do I read correctly that you would gladly trade sexual attraction for a stronger body?  Are you nuts?    Yes, we are all different.

Perhaps the increased sexual mating when thinner had nothing to do with a thinner body as it did with your persona when training.  Do you have a different sex drive when training?  Be what you want to be, yet try to be healthy.  Tearing chest muscles is not healthy.

Over the years I have dated several RW, enough to have conversations about their preferences.  In general most RW prefer husky men, and their definition of skinny included me.  I was 6' (183cm) and under 190 lbs (85 kg).  My bare chested photo is somewhere in the RWD archives.

The same RW told me I was not as bad as many RM who seem to be the male equivalent of the glorified female stick model  A couple of RW described such men by pointing their index finger in the air and slowly lowering it in a vertical line.

A request.  You wrote:

I have some more "dates" lined up in January.

This seemed really odd, especially placing quotation marks around dates.   Will you please elaborate?  I know I can count on you to provide all the interesting information.
 

[Lily]

Andreas,

As this thread progresses, I feel a little confusion about what would you like to know when posting this thread.

First, you alleged that women who market themselves to the foreign man, may mostly want to find wealth. Then, telling about your work, it appears that you may satisfy their wish, if any, to have a good provider. Then, you show us your body which seems to also be up to the high standards for a number of women. You don't complain about lack of women's attention.

What would be your point of making a thread, if you don't mind me asking?

[ECOCKS]

And it just gets better and better...zazazazooom...right up in the clouds as it went by.....whew...

Really, seriously Andreas, I don't know if the level of superficiality, material focus and shallowness of FSU Women will prove a match for a man like yourself.

[Faux Pas]

these videos seem to show an overweight man, not very attractive in the face.  this, plus the overdedication to work and sport, might be why Andreas is not finding his ideal wife.

Rubicon, that remark is about as juvenile and uncalled for as it could get. IMHO. Seriously, what was your point?

[Andreas]

Andreas,

I think you looked fine then. 

Why, thank you.

Do I read correctly that you would gladly trade sexual attraction for a stronger body? 

Yes

Are you nuts?   

That's debatable.

Perhaps the increased sexual mating when thinner had nothing to do with a thinner body as it did with your persona when training.

I doubt it. You see I don't have much time to hit the bars and clubs, so what I usually do is hook up with single women on the net and sleep with them. Very little conversation is taking place. This is why I wrote "dates" like that (I wouldn't really call it a "date" when you hook up with someone just to sleep with them, then leave. I guess you can call it a sex date, but not a "real" date).

Over the years I have dated several RW, enough to have conversations about their preferences.  In general most RW prefer husky men, and their definition of skinny included me.  I was 6' (183cm) and under 190 lbs (85 kg).  My bare chested photo is somewhere in the RWD archives.

Yeah, I got that impression too. When I was 130kgs no Norwegian women showed interest, but some Middle Eastern and Asian women really liked it. Must be a cultural thing.

[Andreas]

Andreas,

As this thread progresses, I feel a little confusion about what would you like to know when posting this thread.

First, you alleged that women who market themselves to the foreign man, may mostly want to find wealth. Then, telling about your work, it appears that you may satisfy their wish, if any, to have a good provider. Then, you show us your body which seems to also be up to the high standards for a number of women. You don't complain about lack of women's attention.

What would be your point of making a thread, if you don't mind me asking?

Well, it started with me wanting to discuss the fact that AFA closed down their offices in Latvia and Estonia after those countries got an economic boost, and also why so many RWs seem to change their attitude towards marriage and men after moving to the west.
My theory is that its mostly money that attracts RW to WM.

Most members of this board seem much more interested in discussing what a big ass I am; which is no surprise since is a forum for men searching RWs. I think Henrik Ibsen wrote something about this in his novel "The Wild Duck":
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henrik_Ibsen#The_Wild_Duck_.281884.29
(bottom quote)

[neo]

Andreas,

The fact that the vast majority of RW are motivated by economic circumstances is not really
a secret, I have often commented on the fact that there are other countries where the indiginous
male population has a similar attitude to RM yet the women don't feel compelled to leave en-masse.

The economic outlook for a young RW/UW is quite bleak - very few jobs, very poor pay and housing options
and still lots of discrimination in the workplace, men for the most part merely add to this problem
as there is a high incidence of failed marriages where husband departs and leaves wife and children
to fend for themselves with no economic support, the amount of single young women then maginifies the problems
are RM are then more unwilling to take on financial responsibility for another mans offspring when they
could easily find a younger mate with no baggage. This situation compounds the already economically difficult
position women find themselves in. a lot of current under 25 women I know are from families where there mother
has been left in such a situation and their mothers are often instrumental in telling their daughters not to
repeat their mistake, they are well aware that going to the west improves their own ability to have economic
independance and also be more protected legally by divorce and mainteance laws and social welfare.

Being pragmatic these women are often prepared to trade some of their "ideal man" wishlist for a better overall
position in life therefore you see some pretty strange pairings.

The question you should really be asking, is not are the women econimically motivated but (understanding that they are)
is what I have to offer sufficient that if she does come she will want to stay with me? am i a good enough match
partner for her once her economic situation is to her liking that she would still consdier me a desirable partner
all things being equal?

A lot of men make this mistake, batting well out of your average is a short term play, if you are the sort of partner a woman
would find desirable, and you improve her economic circumstances then she will be inclined to stay with you, if however
you are merely a means to a ends for her to solve a set of problems so she can then go "onwards and upwards" then you have a problem.

How you fare with this issue is entirely down to how realistic you are in choosing potential matches, how honest she is in choosing you as a match and your respective characters being sufficient to maintain a good LTR.

Catching is easy, keeping is hard.