Vinny’s 2010 really bad Photoshop award goes to ……

[Vinnvinny]

I don’t think there was any malicious attempt here and I certainly wouldn’t call her a scammer and I’m sure TG is correct and she has used manipulation to increase her chances of finding a good man. If this is deemed acceptable then would it also be acceptable for me to knock a few years off my DOB as at 52 I find myself being excluded from 95% of the age group I seek? 

[TomT]

agreed tom, but the photoshopped irony of the HRB thing is a bit out there as well eh?

AJ, et al,

If HRB did full body transplants, then I would be critical of them as well.

I would like to think that this is nothing more than a joke because the alternatives are very grim.

[TomT]

I don’t think there was any malicious attempt here and I certainly wouldn’t call her a scammer and I’m sure TG is correct and she has used manipulation to increase her chances of finding a good man. If this is deemed acceptable then would it also be acceptable for me to knock a few years off my DOB as at 52 I find myself being excluded from 95% of the age group I seek?  

Are you planning to get in touch with the object of our amusement? Under the circumstances, dropping ten years off of your age seems fair.

[Klangfilm]

Klang,

What is your first language?

[Please disregard the above question; I found the answer.]

Just to be shure it's Flemish (Dutch)

Klangfilm

[wicheese]

I don’t think there was any malicious attempt here and I certainly wouldn’t call her a scammer and I’m sure TG is correct and she has used manipulation to increase her chances of finding a good man. If this is deemed acceptable then would it also be acceptable for me to knock a few years off my DOB as at 52 I find myself being excluded from 95% of the age group I seek? 

Vinny,

The bad part is that the 95% of the remaining 5% will probably be more concerned with the size of your wallet vs. other attributes.  But, the good news is that by using this process of elimination it will be easy to find the one as that's what you'll be left with. 

[Vinnvinny]

Are you planning to get in touch with the object of our amusement?

Call me fickle but I need to see more than a pair of eyes a nose and a mouth before I make a decision.

Under the circumstances, dropping ten years off of your age seems fair.

I have found knocking 7 years off does the trick. At 45 the world is your oyster. 

[Vinnvinny]

Vinny,

The bad part is that the 95% of the remaining 5% will probably be more concerned with the size of your wallet vs. other attributes.  But, the good news is that by using this process of elimination it will be easy to find the one as that's what you'll be left with. 

I've found that the ones who are interested in wallet sizes usually have no problem showing their own bodies on websites.

[Jumper]

AJ, et al,

If HRB did full body transplants, then I would be critical of them as well.

I would like to think that this is nothing more than a joke because the alternatives are very grim.

Tom-
 it no big deal to me either way, i find both circumstances amusing.
but  certainly full body and face  photoshopping is done quite often at HRB,
and i guess i just dont see the big distinguising difference between the two *deceptions*,
(transplant verses photo manipulation of a persons  actual complete image)

 I only see a rather humorous speculation on the horizon of whether the big bad corps encouages these practices,
the local agency encourages it,or  actually performs said photo manipulation regardless any womens wishes,
  or if a women herself has it done.

 In the big picture a TON of profiles contain various degres of  photoshopped images in most all the agencies .
HRB is certainly no angel there.. lol geez.


I'd say vinny can tell this woman he is 45... maybe they hit it off as having just "that" deception   in common..
?  

que : breakfast at tiffanys


 




hmm not related at all:
but regarding that film,, it seems *prodaters* have been around awhile in manhatten of all places?  

 ***At her brownstone apartment building, Holly successfully fends off her date from the night before who has been waiting in his car all night. Holly had accepted $50 from her "date" to tip the powder room attendant at the club they were attending and then left. *********


 
 

[wicheese]

I've found that the ones who are interested in wallet sizes usually have no problem showing their own bodies on websites.

You mean to say they are not serious, but why else would they have written me as I'm sure they have already been visited by all the local boys so it's time to move onto foreigners who are 20 years older.   :evil:   

[wicheese]

Now to those who think ladies on HRB are photoshopped, well take a look at this sample I was sent by a young 19 y.o. (I would have shared the one from the 35 y.o. hairstylist, but that one might have been a little too revealing  ) as I doubt it really matters, plenty of suckers will write her. 

[Vinnvinny]

It must be terrible for some of these ladies.   They obviously cant find a good husband using more 'normal' photos so they are forced to de-robe in the name of love. Poor, poor teenagers ... I must join, I'm sure I could rescue one (or maybe two though that will get complicated visa wise I guess) from their awful plight.

[acrzybear]

That poor girl can't even afford clothes, I think we should send her $$$ so she can buy some clothes before winter gets here.

[edtalmadge]

Disclaimer: This is my first post on russianwomendiscussion.com, and I am a web developer for Russian Pearls.

I used Tatiana's services to meet my wife. My testimonial (Ed & Nadejda) is at the top of this page:
http://www.russian-girls.us.com/Testimonials.htm

Everything else I've seen from Russian Pearls is the real deal. Of course I've seen my wife's photos that appeared on their site and they are real. There are so many steps involved in finding & marrying a Russian woman and bringing her home. It makes your head spin. Russian Pearls gave me extremely thorough and professional assistance through all of it. As others have said in this thread, Tatiana's services are more than terrific. As I type this, my Russian mother in law is here visiting thanks to the help of Russian Pearls getting her visa. You can bet that the PhotoShop job is an extremely rare occurrence for Russian Pearls and they are grateful for your feedback.

[Daveman]

Disclaimer: This is my first post on russianwomendiscussion.com, and I am a web developer for Russian Pearls.

I used Tatiana's services to meet my wife. My testimonial (Ed & Nadejda) is at the top of this page:
http://www.russian-girls.us.com/Testimonials.htm

Everything else I've seen from Russian Pearls is the real deal. Of course I've seen my wife's photos that appeared on their site and they are real. There are so many steps involved in finding & marrying a Russian woman and bringing her home. It makes your head spin. Russian Pearls gave me extremely thorough and professional assistance through all of it. As others have said in this thread, Tatiana's services are more than terrific. As I type this, my Russian mother in law is here visiting thanks to the help of Russian Pearls getting her visa. You can bet that the PhotoShop job is an extremely rare occurrence for Russian Pearls and they are grateful for your feedback.

Yeah, but how do you explain the spy network which somehow informs RP any time there is the hint of the slightest possibility of a perception of a scent of what could be potentially be construed as a negative post on the forum?  Those guys, whomever they are, have some talent.   :evil:

I don't think the integrity of Russian Pearls is, or has been drawn into question here. The site and Tatiana have a good rep and are recommended by many.  Shi.. er, stuff happens on any agency site which will slip through the cracks. I think most of us merely find the photos funny.

Plus, I have no idea how Vinny found/figured that out... good lord, I may have noticed the photoshop fingerprint but to track down the celeb photos from which they came... W O W... man, when the feces smacks the rotary oscillator, I want Vinny on my team.. damn.,.

[edtalmadge]

Yeah, but how do you explain the spy network which somehow informs RP any time there is the hint of the slightest possibility of a perception of a scent of what could be potentially be construed as a negative post on the forum?

Well... this time it was just me obsessing over their web analytics. I noticed some traffic from russianwomendiscussion.com and traced it to this post.

Plus, I have no idea how Vinny found/figured that out... good lord, I may have noticed the photoshop fingerprint but to track down the celeb photos from which they came... W O W... man, when the feces smacks the rotary oscillator, I want Vinny on my team.. damn.,.

Yes! Vinny, please enlighten us. That was amazing. How did you find those matches?

[I/O]

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12764.0;attach=23020;image Lickable Likable sort of a young lass.  

[Vinnvinny]

Plus, I have no idea how Vinny found/figured that out... good lord, I may have noticed the photoshop fingerprint but to track down the celeb photos from which they came... W O W... man, when the feces smacks the rotary oscillator, I want Vinny on my team.. damn.,.

Yes! Vinny, please enlighten us. That was amazing. How did you find those matches?

I'm not nearly as clever as you might imagine.

I always run suspect photos through http://www.tineye.com. Additionally, you can download an app depending on which browser you use that allows you to do an instant search by right clicking on an image. It's not fool proof but as demonstrated it can often do a good job. 

[Chelseaboy]

Vinnvinny,i can assure you that will not lack for an amazing amount of interest from young beauties on HRB/RLM.Your age will not be of any importance to them at all,as that site,as with Anastasia,Dream-marriage,Natasha club/Single Baltic lady/1st International et al,has the amazing ability to attract beautiful nubile young ladies that are quite happy to marry foreign men over fifty,to escape all those drunk,cheating Ukrainian/Russian men.
You won't get much sleep though,chatting with all those young beauties that specialise in being online throughout the night in Ukraine .
It is odd though,how these all happen to be pay per letter/pay to chat sites,and i don't see the same attraction for older foreign men,from young marriage-minded FSU hotties, on non pay for letter/pay for chat sites.
Maybe Andrew,who now extols the virtues of HRB/RLM,can enlighten us to the reason for this apparent large discrepancy in age preferances.

[Vinnvinny]

You’re spot on the CB. You know when I look at those non pay per letter sites I get quite angry. Mamba is the worst as many ladies in their late 20’s to mid 30’s wont look at a guy over 40. I am tempted sometimes to drop them a line and give them a piece of my mind and ask them what they are playing at!!!!  

Thank the Lord for the young open minded hotties at HRB, Anastasia, Brides of Ukraine etc. Such sites help me keep the faith.

Andrew knows best, he is our ‘insider’ dating guru and we should be thankful for his insight and advice.

[Vinnvinny]

A case (or two) in point. Look at these pretty damsels that need rescuing from a life of grime and despair and note the maximum age range they look for! I’m not currently a member of EM so if anyone could drop them a line on my behalf and ask them what they think they are playing at I would be most grateful.

Thank you.

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=4328270

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=7628385


Another example:

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=1625739

Except for not being sociable, interesting, financially secure, loving kids and travelling .... then I am everything she could every dream about but I’m way too old.

[Kuna]

You guys are amazing...  

Don't fall in love with a photo???

How about don't create your own hard luck stories as excuses for someones dumb decisions???

Look...  the girl was probably not scheming to rip anyone off....  and if she's a few KG's heavier than those fake photos a man is not going to notice if he didn't detect the photoshopped pics...  but do you not even consider character and maturity when selecting women you would meet.

At the very least, this girl thinks she smart enough / sly enough / dishonest enough to treat men seeking wives as fools - which obviously there are a few of here.

If she's so immature she'd do this, what else would she do to get her way once she's met a man,  dating a man or God forbid, marries a man?

I know some men will primarily select women to date based on hair colour,  length of legs, cup size or nipple position - but how many men are actually seeking out women with the right character that REALLY makes them marriage material?

Maybe a naive man could marry a woman of poor character and maintain his marriage for a while... but only if he's satisfied being trampled and deceived throughout his marriage.  What a miserable existence!

I am not surprised so many men have so many problems finding quality women in FSU if this is the quality of thinking going on.  Gentlemen... grow the hell up!

Ohhhh, she can't afford pro photos??? Don't you prefer to see real life photos not staged abstract pseudo representations of what a woman would like to appear to do?

Ohhhh, she wouldn't be trying to rip anyone off?  Who cares?  She thinks she can deceive and get away with it...  that's enough reason to leave her alone until she matures enough to contribute to a relationship without deception.

As for the advocates of the agency...  well I don't know what to say...

I love the instant appearance of the recently joined defenders of RP honesty and integrity.  

How about judging RP on tardiness and an obvious disinterest in the quality of the data within their business?  If they couldn't even be bothered looking at the photos within their site what else are they missing?

Oh yes,  please make up more stories to defend these lazy people!!!  If they are so honest they should kick themselves in the pants and smarten up, not make excuses and offer the woman more opportunities to be honest!  Why not say "GO AWAY and grow up...  and come back when you are mature enough!"

I'll also say this...  and don't care if it offends anyone because it's true.  

vwrw previously created a false identity to come in here and deceive the members of RWD.  I feel very uncomfortable when I see brand spanking new members coming in almost "on queue" to defend this agency she respects so much.

Yes, I am becoming a cynical old b@stard...  but is Mila back in the building?


Gentlemen,  you will define your own success and the pain you will go through. If you have enough character to be introspective without lying to yourself, you will know you MUST find women with a good character first.  

Worry about the quality of her teeth later (yes,  we've had men in here pondering the cost of dental  care for women with bad teeth).

Most of all, focus on the women's characters, compatibility and goals, AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES!

[Vinnvinny]

Kuna: Do you think it's possible that I could find a lady of good character whose nipples are in a good position? PM me if you prefer to refrain from giving all and sundry the heads up. 

[Jumper]

Kuna-

 commenting on the possibilties of a given situation, isn't the same as condoning the behavioir ..


if vinny walked around with a sock in his pants, i'd find it equally amusing..
 Now whether it was outright deceptive, and thus  making a final decision on his character,,
 i wouldnt know for certain ,  so wouldnt make any such declaration!!
and frankly I wouldnt want ,or plan, to find out 

same as this deal..
 

[Vinnvinny]

if vinny walked around with a sock in his pants, i'd find it equally amusing..

Mmmmm, good plan ....

and frankly I wouldnt want ,or plan, to find out 

There would be no guarantees I would let you anyway!

[Turboguy]

As for the advocates of the agency...  well I don't know what to say...

I love the instant appearance of the recently joined defenders of RP honesty and integrity.  

How about judging RP on tardiness and an obvious disinterest in the quality of the data within their business?  If they couldn't even be bothered looking at the photos within their site what else are they missing?

Most of us are not as smart as Vinny.  I would bet that if 100 men looked at those photos 99 or more would not question them.  I don't see it as bad that the staff at RP's didn't catch it.   My wife is not the only one who feels RP's is a good agency.  She is not alone in recommending them.  Actually I have seen a lot of people quite happy with them and on the other hand I have seen one guy who was a little disappointed in their services.  Every service like that will have some who like them and some that don't.  Good agencies will have more that like them and a very few that don't and bad agencies will be the opposite.

According to Dr. House "Everyone lies"  I don't know that I belive it and I think in this venture anyone will do more harm than good by not being honest and open.  Still I have seen a lot of women use old photos, lie about their weight or other things so it is something that happens.  I see a woman I met years ago pop up on one of the Elena's ad's here.  The photo is the same one she used when I met her ages ago.  The photos are pretty stunning but she didn't look all that much like the photos way back when.  Is Elena's a bad agency because some women use old photos?  Is it any worse that they can't catch those things than someone bringing photos into RP's that look like the person?  There are lots of good and bad abut the world and this endevor but no one is perfect.