messed up name

[Oosik]

My fiance applied for her Passport today. They spelled her name
"liudmiyla" instead of "Lyudmila". Her 325 is hand-filled out with the latter version. So now she has to redo. Can she fax me the forms and save origionals for the consulate?

What does it cost to DHL from Ukraine to US?

Thanks

[ConnerVT]

First you need to ask the proper question.

My fiance applied for her Passport today.

If she applied for her passport, it must of been with the Ukraine government (unless she is already a US citizen).  The US consulate won't do anything without her passport having the correct information.

Unless his isn't what's going on.  It was impossible to determine exactly what happened, or what you are asking.  You are dealing with the government.  The devil is in the details.  Perhaps you need to explain again exactly what you are asking.

[Oosik]

Sorry, her Ukraine passport.

I guess what I am asking is do they accept faxed I-325A forms, because her docs that I had her fill out are using a different spelling of her first name.

Unless the slightly different spelling of the name is OK, but man, I'd hate to see her get sent back at customs!!

[RacerX]

We had a transliteration problem with my [then] fiancee's name.  The best way to fix these problems is for her to go to an i-net cafe and have them scanned and sent to you as attachments.  But if you are doing everything by hand, then a good FAX should be OK.

[Shadow]

I don't know about if they will accept fax copies (but guess they will be ok) but make sure the spelling of the name is equal on her passport and all documents.

If you need to translate papers in to English (like birth certificate) make sure that the translations hold the same name as her passport. Any uestions you can avoid you should.

My fiancee has the same name, and they transliterated it to Liudmila. I made sure that whenever there is an official paper I add the 'i', including on flighrt reservations.

[Oosik]

I can't believe they would spell it in such a retarded fashion. Lyuda's last email was signed to me that way. Now I have to start calling her Liuda because some dope didn't use the standard spelling? LOL How I and my kids and everyone in the US will forever know her is changed because of some person who may or may not have had a bad day.

I guess she just became Luda for short. I thought the "y"  was kind of sexy, personally.

[Oosik]

I can't believe they would spell it in such a retarded fashion. Lyuda's last email was signed to me that way. Now I have to start calling her Liuda because some dope didn't use the standard spelling? LOL How I and my kids and everyone in the US will forever know her is changed because of some person who may or may not have had a bad day.

I guess she just became Luda for short. I thought the "y"  was kind of sexy, personally.

[jb]

I think the BCS will make allowances for transliteration/spelling of up  to 3 characters in a name.  However, they will not accept faxed or  zeroxed copies of any document that requires a signature.  They  are very picky, all signatures must be originals.  So, if you need  a new signed set of Bio's (G-325) from her, she will have to download  them from the net and sign them each individually, and then mail/ship  them to you.

[Shadow]

funny is that the y show her Ukrainian origin. In Ukrainian the i us often replaced by y

[ConnerVT]

Another important question is: Do you proceed with the gross misspelling of her name on her Ukrainian passport?  There are at least two issues with this:

1. This spelling will become her legal name in the US.  All of her legal documents -- USCIS, Social Security, federal and state documents, credit and medical records, etc, will have her name spelled as this.  This mistake will follow her around for the rest of her life, unless it is corrected quickly and not allowed to expand to other information databases.

2. There will be potential problems that her "new" legal name doesn't closely match her previous (real) name.  Her birth certificate, educational and medical/immunization records, etc may not be accepted as hers without a true paper trail to show how her name changed.  It may even pose a problem during the USCIS security checks.

Everyone is always on the fast track to bring their fiancee home ASAP.  In this case, the prudent course of action (IMHO) is to resolve this issue BEFORE it becomes a bigger one.


(FYI: The US State Dept. decided to change my wife's first name by one letter when issuing her visa.  Even though every document we gave them showed it the correct way she spelled it with the Roman alphabet.  We can, of course, correct that now that she has her conditional green card by legally changing her name here in VT.  But we have decided to wait until her permanent card is issued, before doing anything to confuse government employees.)

[BC]

We went through the name transliteration game in RU.  Was tough but finally resolved with a lot of patience and a few small 'gifts' to those issuing the passports.

The master of this magic in FSU is not Copperfield but Ben Franklin.

[START2]

Maybe I missed something but you said her Ukr. passport. She will need an international passport for the interview and the visa stamp affixed. I'm sure she must already have a ukr. passport.  

[ConnerVT]

I'm sure he meant her Ukrainian international passport.

[Oosik]

I'm sure Luda meant her intl passport too. I'll confirm in the morning when I call her.

So nobody knows for sure about signed, faxed documents.

[Photo Guy]

[color="blue"][size="3"][color="navy"]Larisa  is extremely thorough. For her Intl Passport application, she travelled  to the Oblast center at Donetsk. She brought 'extra' money with her to  facilitate the process in addition to the standard application fee. I  believe the same oblast office simultaneously created the necessary [/color][color="navy"][color="blue"]translated copy[/color] for the visa process. Who knows what can happen if the added 'incentive' money was absent, or if the passport was later[/color] [color="navy"]translated by a less reliable third party. How do you go back to that link in the chain of events to correct something?[/color][/size][/color][/b]

[ConnerVT]

However, they will not accept faxed or zeroxed copies of any document that requires a signature.  They are very picky, all signatures must be originals.  So, if you need a new signed set of Bio's (G-325) from her, she will have to download them from the net and sign them each individually, and then mail/ship them to you.

No, jb nailed that one on the head.  Faxed, copied, or computer printed forms are fine.  Signatures must be original.

[Oosik]

The I-325 expired on 12/31/2005, after I had Luda fill it out. So now she has downloaded the I-325a and is filling it out, and is also doing a new letter of intent with her name spelled the funny way. What are the options of sending the stuff to me? She is going to ask the post office there. Honestly, it will probably take longer for the mail to get from Seattle to my village than it will take to get from Chernigov, Ukriane to the US.

Any comments on experiences, reliability?

[BC]

Why not DHL it?

[Turboguy]

Just in case someone else runs into this, I am told they will allow one letter varience in the names.  My former fiancee's K-1 applicaction was with the Name Ludmila and her international passport read Liudmila and that went through without a snag but in you case there are two letters different. 

Back to your original question, I believe it is about $ 70.00 to send something by DHL.  I have done it a bunch of times but I never payed much attention to the cost.

 

[Wayne]

Svetlana can end up on the internatioal Ukraine or Russian passport as Svitlana or even Svitlyana.  Lyudmyla would appear instead of Ludmila.  Oxana instead of Oksana, and so on.  On the I129F you must show the name in the Russian alphabet. There is a line for it.

The security check must clear for ALL name spellings--so you better make sure you list every possible spelling to avoid several month extra delay.

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[Photo Guy]

Larisa must have charmed them all, because I looked at her Int'l  passport and her name was spelled 'wrong'. Since transliteration is  involved, 'wrong' is a gray area. It all started with our terp from  Russian, translating her name as Larisa Vorovskaya, which I went on to  place on all of the US forms, K-1, etc.  The transliteration from  Ukrainian is
Larysa Vorovska (Int'l Passport), so that's three incorrect letters, or  actually the spelling on her ki-1 forms are slightly wrong and the  Passport is correct. I have no idea how this will affect future  paperwork here in the US.  Can we just go with the transliteration  from the Ukrainian version? 
edit: I just noticed the correct(newer) version is on her US K-1 visa. -doug

[Goombah]

We are pretty much going with the spelling we like, and using it on more and more paperwork (her state id is wrong, her SSN card right - now we just use the SSN for ID when asked for spelling, like on our marriage certificate).

I'm honestly surprised how easy it is to forge an identity these days.  In our case, its harmless little spelling changes, but I can see where this could go.

Kevin

[Bruce]

Vorovka - thats quite a name she has.   No wonder why she wants to get married so badly.  Ask your fiance what a vorovka is .

[Oosik]

Now Luda has her passport, and it has yet a third spelling. Lets see:

Name= Lyudmila (according to agency)

Passport office at intake=Liudmiyla

Final Passport= Liudmyla

The paperwork that I have for her is with the Liudmiyla spelling.

This sucks.

[Wayne]

The forth way is:  Lyudmyla.  This would be for Ukrainian government.