Why do u look for a wife abroad?

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Tiger,

I speak for myself just like you speak for yourself! You don't know every woman living in America! Your reasons are yours and my reasons are mine! You don't know me nor I you! As I said about the nice woman in Amrerica I will say about the gold diggers in America! There are gold diggers every where. I'm sorry, but from what I do know about you, through only the thoughts and ideas you post here, you are a very narrow minded individual. You are the classic "it's my way or the highway" type!

bbernard

Yes, one of the problems when speaking in absolutes - or generalities - is there is no room left for natural (and expected) variation. It leaves one exposed to the fact that others recognize the fallacy of the argument and then undermines credibility. At least, IMO (allowing for normal variation ).

- Dan

[Jay Patches]

I think if I were to actively look for a partner, southern Spain would be my preferred destination.
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Andalucia. I recall spending La Feria in Sevilla a few years back. I have NEVER seen so many drop-dead gorgeous women ANYWHERE. All the more so in their elaborate La Feria dresses.

Yep - that would be on my short list of places to hang out for women - if I was still in the market.

- Dan[/quote]
I'll be there in about 6 weeks.  I was thinking about a trip to Russia or Ukraine at the end of my business, but if the women are as beautiful as you say....  I just might stay!

JP

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[user=716]Jay Patches[/user] wrote:

I'll be there in about 6 weeks. I wasthinking about a trip to Russia or Ukraine at the end of my business, but if the women are as beautiful as you say.... I just might stay!

JP

La Feria is in April - and it is WARM in southern Spain at that time of year. The festivities bring wealthy horsemen with incredibly elaborate carriages from all across Spain, into Sevilla. Of course, a few also bring daughters .

March will be in advance of the festivities, so things may be a bit more subdued, not sure. Maybe BC will have some suggested venues.

I've always been rather partial to dark-haired and olive-skinned women - though I made a HUGE departure with Olya - but love will do that to a person .

Anyway, best of luck to you. Let us know how your trip went when you get back.

- Dan

[BC]

Dan,

Was down in the Jerez/Cadiz area for 6 months in the early 90's.. had a fantastic time as you describe.  The folk and esp. women were very friendly, fun to be with and quite open minded.  I felt totally 'at home' and at ease without any great effort.. as 'laid back' and fun as it gets.

Indeed a bright spot on this planet.

May seem a bit strange but I found FSU mentality was quite similar to what I experienced in many countries all along the southern med.. maybe that's why I felt so attracted to my wife and why I love living here.

[TigerPaws]

You are the classic "it's my way or the highway" type!

bbernard

Ok I agree, so what is the problem?

 

[Rim]

[color="red"][size="4"][color="black"][color="blue"] I firmly believe NO man should every marry before the age of 35.
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Agreed

[ajayinsead03]

Gosh! So much venom and anger! Tiger paws.. really sorry.. to hear that  you had such bad experineces with your sisters and other American  women. But I really found America to be a great nation and Americans to  be great people. Please dont be so harsh on Bernard! Come on - let him  have his voice - his 1st Amendment right! please, accept my sinceer  apologies for your experience with American people, but if you could  believe me, many other nations, have their own flaws.

[ajayinsead03]

You are the classic "it's my way or the highway" type!

bbernard

[color="blue"][size="4"]Ok I agree, so what is the problem?[/size][/color]

 
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Tiger: There is no problem with that. Just a small one: YOu will have  to build you own highway: for every path you shall take then!

[ajayinsead03]

And the logic is??

[color="red"][size="4"][color="black"][color="blue"] I firmly believe NO man should every marry before the age of 35.
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Agreed


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[Jooky]

Tigerpaws, I agree that men have more choices by going to a country such as Russia. I agree that men make poor choices.

Men make poor choices here as well, and they don't realize the choices that we do have.

Simply because you made poor choices in America and made a good choice in the FSU does not mean that America is full of gold digging bitches and Russia is barren of them.

I have lived in other countries, for more than just days and weeks. I spent more than half of last year living in Russia. Yes, different countries have different cultures. Nut cases, bitches, and baggage laden women, however, can be found everywhere.

I say I ended up in Russia as an accident because I wasn't looking for Russian woman at all when I found one.

A Russian scammer wrote to my personal ad years ago and asked me to look at her profile. Next to her profile was a cuter photo of another Russian girl (who I learned much later was friends with the scammer). I wrote to her as well. Women from all over the world responded to my profile. I wrote to them as well, but I made the best connection with this Russian girl, and I flew out to meet her.

That trip was a disaster. The girl was the moodiest bitch I have ever met. While on that trip I went online to see if I could meet another girl in Moscow to spend some time with. I didn't receive any responses until I arrived back home at which point it was too late. I exchanged a few emails, but dropped correspondence because I had no plans to return to Russia. I saw no major differences between the girls I could meet in Russia and the ones I could meet in other countries or back home.

Months later one of the girls I wrote contacted me out the blue. She was coming to California and wanted to meet. So I met her, and over the years I met many of her friends and friends of friends all of whom came to visit me. So I ended up dating a few Russian girls and making some good friends. I did not stop dating girls in America.

After much prodding I returned to Russia to visit my friends. I did go online one day and sent out a bunch of emails to see if I could meet some nice girls on my upcoming visit.

One trip led to another and I've enjoyed spending half the year in Russia.

Yes, it is very easy to meet Russian women, especially online. That I will concur. I do like slavic women and think that Russia is fully of pretty girls, but I won't say California or America is bereft of them, because that would be bs.

As far as the crap that agencies dish out that Russian women are more traditional and blah blah blah, that's just a bunch of hype. Sure, you CAN find a woman like that because there are all kinds of women in Russia, just as there are in the US.

Perhaps it's easier to find that woman in Russia because of the economic situation an average American man has better choices.

It's also more difficult for the average American man to find that woman in Russia because he is too easily led by the nose by the hype and agencies and too willing to pick the first woman that bats an eye in his direction.

 

 

 

[Jay Patches]

Dan,

Was down in the Jerez/Cadiz area for 6 months in the early 90's.. had a fantastic time as you describe.  The folk and esp. women were very friendly, fun to be with and quite open minded.  I felt totally 'at home' and at ease without any great effort.. as 'laid back' and fun as it gets.

Indeed a bright spot on this planet.

May seem a bit strange but I found FSU mentality was quite similar to what I experienced in many countries all along the southern med.. maybe that's why I felt so attracted to my wife and why I love living here.

 

I think JP needed geography lesson.  I'll be in Barcelona earlier, but won't have free time on my hands until the second week of April.  If Seville is all that, it's incentive to head to Andalucia. 

I too have always been very attracted to the olive skinned, dark haired women.  I've taken to looking in the Stan's, Armenia, Georgia, and such, but there just is not the quantity of choices as there is in Ukraine or Russia.  If I don't find good reason to go anywhere else, a trip to Seville seems in order!

JP

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[user=716]Jay Patches[/user] wrote:

I think JP needed geography lesson. I'll be in Barcelona earlier, but won't have free time on my hands until the second week of April. If Seville is all that, it's incentive to head to Andalucia.

I too have always been very attracted to the olive skinned, dark haired women. I've taken to looking in the Stan's, Armenia, Georgia, and such, but there just is not the quantity of choices as there is in Ukraine or Russia. If I don't find good reason to go anywhere else,a trip to Seville seems in order!

JP

Check out the photos here -- http://www.sol.com/en/modulo.asp?IdContenido=170&IdProvincia=41#

The selection of women was not the best for these photos - but you will begin to get some idea of the La Feria celebration. It is truly NOT to be missed, if you can make it.

- Dan

[Zhena]

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

why is there a growing penchant in the russian agencies - to put photos of Indian models ! Your picture is that of Aishwarya Rai? { I dont care if you use whatever you use] but why specifically Miss World - from INDIA when this is a Russian channel? No one is objective, just curiou

You have to be proud of it;) I could post my own pic...just didnt want to make it public. Just took Aishwaria-is that wrong? I like her.

[ajayinsead03]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

why  is there a growing penchant in the russian agencies - to put photos of  Indian models ! Your picture is that of Aishwarya Rai? { I dont care if  you use whatever you use] but why specifically Miss World - from INDIA when this is a Russian channel? No one is objective, just curiou

You have to be proud of it;) I could post my own pic...just didnt want to make it public. Just took Aishwaria-is that wrong? I like her

Oh Hi,

Like I said, its your right and you cpuld post anyone's picture or no picture at all.
I dont mind.. just very surprised to see even scamers using pictures of  Indian models! WHy Indian !! Especially.. its over me.. the joke in  Indian circles is that: these Russian mesage boards/agncies/sites etc -  have all wised up.. to this outsourcing phenomenon and have outsourced  ' Fat Yuri'- to an Indian Call Center- where cheap guys - I guess guys  like me - resopond to such events/activities..

As per me being proud of you chooisng the photo of an Indian celebrity!  well.. why should I be proud of that? Sorry I dodnt understand , please  elaborate..

[TigerPaws]

Perhaps it's easier to find that woman in Russia because of the economic situation an average American man has better choices.

Jooky,

 Of everything you said (above) and the simple fact that there are more available women in Russia make for better hunting grounds. As for the choices some men make, well that is their fault for not taking more time to weed out the desirable women from the ones better left behind.

 When I began looking at 44/45 years old the chances of finding a 25/26 year old beautiful girl without children in California (where I was from) was all but impossible. That has not changed today or anywhere in the U.S. for that matter, so your argument that there are similar ladies in America does not hold much water.

 

[Zhena]

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

why is there a growing penchant in the russian agencies - to put photos of Indian models ! Your picture is that of Aishwarya Rai? { I dont care if you use whatever you use] but why specifically Miss World - from INDIA when this is a Russian channel? No one is objective, just curiou

You have to be proud of it;) I could post my own pic...just didnt want to make it public. Just took Aishwaria-is that wrong? I like her

Oh Hi,

Like I said, its your right and you cpuld post anyone's picture or no picture at all.
I dont mind.. just very surprised to see even scamers using pictures of Indian models! WHy Indian !! Especially.. its over me.. the joke in Indian circles is that: these Russian mesage boards/agncies/sites etc - have all wised up.. to this outsourcing phenomenon and have outsourced ' Fat Yuri'- to an Indian Call Center- where cheap guys - I guess guys like me - resopond to such events/activities..

As per me being proud of you chooisng the photo of an Indian celebrity! well.. why should I be proud of that? Sorry I dodnt understand , please elaborate..

I wont elaborate anything,ok? AS you called me a scammer-no more comments.

[catzenmouse]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

I dont mind.. just very surprised to see even scamers using pictures of Indian models!

I wont elaborate anything,ok? AS you called me a scammer-no more comments.

a fiancee,

 I don't think he was calling you a scammer. I read it to say that scammers use these types of pictures.

 Ken

[bbernard]

You are the classic "it's my way or the highway" type!

bbernard

Ok I agree, so what is the problem?

 
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No problem at all! That was just a statement on what I see of your own individual personality... Point being you you speak for yourself and not for all men (American or not). Just because you feel this way does not mean you are above all others who don't. That's all! I'm not looking for a flame fest!

bbernard

[Muj]

ajay,

As you may notice many avatars are from all kinds of sources.  Also you pontificate a great deal on your open mindeness and great knowledge of others.  I find you comments contrite and rude as you lack any knowledge to whom you refer.

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

why is there a growing penchant in the russian agencies - to put photos of Indian models ! Your picture is that of Aishwarya Rai? { I dont care if you use whatever you use] but why specifically Miss World - from INDIA when this is a Russian channel? No one is objective, just curiou

You have to be proud of it;) I could post my own pic...just didnt want to make it public. Just took Aishwaria-is that wrong? I like her

Oh Hi,

Like I said, its your right and you cpuld post anyone's picture or no picture at all.
I dont mind.. just very surprised to see even scamers using pictures of Indian models! WHy Indian !! Especially.. its over me.. the joke in Indian circles is that: these Russian mesage boards/agncies/sites etc - have all wised up.. to this outsourcing phenomenon and have outsourced ' Fat Yuri'- to an Indian Call Center- where cheap guys - I guess guys like me - resopond to such events/activities..

As per me being proud of you chooisng the photo of an Indian celebrity! well.. why should I be proud of that? Sorry I dodnt understand , please elaborate..

[bbernard]

I dont mind.. just very surprised to see even scamers using pictures of Indian models!

I wont elaborate anything,ok? AS you called me a scammer-no more comments.[/quote]
a fiancee,

 I don't think he was calling you a scammer. I read it to say that scammers use these types of pictures.

 Ken
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a fiancee,

I agree with Ken. I re-read that line twice because I originally thought, like you, that ajay was calling you a scammer but when I gave it the second read I took it in the same light that Ken did. I believe he meant that he was surprised to learn that even scammers have used pictures of Indian models/actresses/singers....

bbernard

[ajayinsead03]

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

[user=743]a fiancee[/user] wrote:

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

why  is there a growing penchant in the russian agencies - to put photos of  Indian models ! Your picture is that of Aishwarya Rai? { I dont care if  you use whatever you use] but why specifically Miss World - from INDIA when this is a Russian channel? No one is objective, just curiou

You have to be proud of it;) I could post my own pic...just didnt want to make it public. Just took Aishwaria-is that wrong? I like her

Oh Hi,

Like I said, its your right and you cpuld post anyone's picture or no picture at all.
I dont mind.. just very surprised to see even scamers using pictures of  Indian models! WHy Indian !! Especially.. its over me.. the joke in  Indian circles is that: these Russian mesage boards/agncies/sites etc -  have all wised up.. to this outsourcing phenomenon and have outsourced  ' Fat Yuri'- to an Indian Call Center- where cheap guys - I guess guys  like me - resopond to such events/activities..

As per me being proud of you chooisng the photo of an Indian celebrity!  well.. why should I be proud of that? Sorry I dodnt understand , please  elaborate..

I wont elaborate anything,ok? AS you called me a scammer-no more comments.

WHAT??

which part of my response accused - enumerated-elucidated- enunciated or referred to YOU??? about ANYTHING ... related to YOU..

If at all, I defended your Us well.. u can choose to read the way u  want to read things .. weall do..dont we ?but I never said anything  about YOU being a scammer.. or anything like that.. even remotely.. I  even said, that upfront I dont care what photos u use.. or anyone else  uses.. I just asked a mere question! God.. SORRY if somehow.. I  inadvertently hurted you!

I just said.. that a lot of russian sites lately have used Indian photo  models.. trust me its a LOT -- I even know that some boards - I wont  name - but u guys can guess - have bene programmed in India - well no  problems with that.. But, u may or may not believe this - but there is  a place in India - where some porgrammers were asked to write messages  - on some board - I know that board - its like this one -to generate  'stickiness' - well.. as old as I am.. I have seen many things..  much weird than this..

hope u get over that perceived remark as u now know that you werent accused of something..

FYI: Aishwarya looked better then the cat.. u have.. either put yours..  or well.. its yoru choice.. BTW: Dan should know: that posting  someone's photo - without contest is a copy right violation - so as a  moderator - he should, request that u dont use Aishwarya's Photo _ now,  especially because he KNOWS - if he doesnt stop.. he would be  infringing on IP & Copy right laws! Just because Indians dont  bark, doesnt mean they dont know Also, some guys here ask questions  about UW salaries.. its in the intesrets of both the agnecies and the  AM to beleive that they are so ridicukously low - but they dont realize  theie is something called STD from Average.. I am an employer in the  tech sector .. my dicvision pays.. in Moscow and in Ukarine.. I bet  some of my employees make mroe money than the 40th percentile here

[Jooky]

There are similar ladies in America. Just because they might be out of reach to a 45 year old man, doesn't make American women a bunch of worthless bitches.

Are they really so out of reach? I am also from California. The last women I dated here were 12-15 years younger than me. 20 years would be illegal for me, but I have friends that regularly date women 15-20 years younger than them. The thing is most men think younger women are completely out of reach here so they never even consider them. I used to think so too, but in reality they are not. Like anywhere it depends on what the woman sees in you. The less you have to offer, the less choices you have.

If young American women have better choices than young Russian women that doesn't make American women bad and Russian women good.

It might make Russia a better place to look for the average older man who wants a younger pretty woman, but he is taking advantage of a situation and should realize that.

He should take a good look at himself and what he has to offer a Russian woman. In many cases he is looked at solely for his money or as an escape to a better land. Russia might be a better hunting grounds for some, but it's also a very dangerous hunting grounds for others.

In general American men can go to Russia and at least meet prettier and younger woman than back home. But from what I've seen, in general they are not meeting women that are more traditional, family oriented, easy to get along with, or with less baggage than back home.

 

[Admin]

[user=822]ajayinsead03[/user] wrote:

BTW: Dan should know: that posting  someone's photo - without contest is a copy right violation - so as a  moderator - he should, request that u dont use Aishwarya's Photo _ now,  especially because he KNOWS - if he doesnt stop.. he would be  infringing on IP & Copy right laws! Just because Indians dont  bark, doesnt mean they dont know

BTW AJ:

Dan knows a little something about the Intellectual Property (IP) and copyright laws (very little). Did you actually READ the Terms of Service document incorporated into the email you registered with?? If not, I suggest you take a moment and visit the Administrative section to peruse it.

While at it, you may want to take some time to read the laws about copyright insofar as public figures are concerned. You may be surprised to learn their images are not nearly so protected as you seem to think.

I kind of liked a fiancee's avatar, and am sorry your comments inspired her to remove them. I also think you might be a tad more careful with how you wordcraft some of your posts. She was offended, and others interpreted your post in a similar fashion. At best, it was ambiguous. When several people provide you consistent feedback, it MAY be worthwhile to take a look in the mirror for the source.

FWIW

- Dan

[BC]

ajayinsead03,

Besides showing us that you can critique others maybe you could share a bit about yourself and your direct FSU experiences.  You begin to remind me of someone that used to bogart the joint thinking we were really interested in listening..

[ajayinsead03]

Dan:

first of all it was a joke..

SECONDLy:

If you dont want me to come to your board, I wont. I am probabbly  the only non white male here .. I dont care.. I was told this one is  beter board, so I came here.

We, were sued, for using a celebrity in our ads.. { it was a more than  100 Million dollar markeing campaign] so yes, I also know 'some' about  the copy right laws and since I have a patent, I also know 'some' about  the IP law.. I mentioned the IP word here..by mistake.. because they go  - at times together in the same sentence..  BUT .. there is a  caveat.. here.

IP - Intellectual Property: is very weird, text.. on drive.. if accesed  to be deleted/edited/ can only be done if its a property of someone..  copy rightted material..if owned can be deemed as property .. a;thiugh  this is loose..it could be claimed.. by a clever lawyer that whatever  is bEing accepted here.. is yOur intellectual asset.. and then asset  becomes a propety and then the company - owns the asset.. and when the  aseet is owned - then well.. euqiatya nd liablity of ownership and its  assets come into play.. by sheer design.. now all of this is concoction  and I dont care.. I said it before.. in my first post.. also.. I told  others to be easy on her.. etc etc.. well.. u can say whatever u want..  



 { BTW: none of this was intended as u sugegst that I suggested -  I didnt] .. You mentioned that she was offended by my remarkl - which  was a question: CLEARLY and UNambigously stating: that.. in plain  English: that; I dont care, what photos if any u use, be it of Indian  celebrity or whatever.. having said that Dan.. what part is  AMBIGUOUS???  Was I not right about the photo of that  model/actress? What if I am that models' brother?? I personally dont  give a squat about her photo.. I already did mention that I dont care  and that I liked her photos.. And let me guess Dan;

You say that she was offended: Well, Dan, I havent used curse words,  people here say Moslems are this and that.. Poeple here say.. AW are  BITCHES.. I request not to make such categorical statements.. about 50  % of American population. You mention that I should be careful about  how I word my statements !!!
Poeple here.. curse and absue others.. no big deal.. all is fair..  under the 1st.. one foreigner with a weird sounding name appears - and  he is being asked to take precaution !- never mind.. Moslems are this  and that. AND SHOULD BE NUKED --- THIS ONE TAKES THE CAKE... never  mind.. AW are bitches and gold diggers.. Never mind..that bernard and  then there is another gentaleman.. who didnt construe my statement..{  actually it was not even a statement. It was an observation and at best  a question: And well.. lets see.. on a Indian Ararnged marraieg site..  wont u be curious/surprised to see .. Scandinavian Blonde Bomb shell  photos!!! Gosh ! .. and asking that question.. alone  OFFENDED  her.. ??
MY question offended her.. BUT RW are bitches and RW are this and  that.. visa, green card Wh&&*( and godl digegers didnt!! and  YOU supoort that.. view.. Wow.. Dan, if u dont want me or like  Indians.. say so..


I hope you dodnt censor this..

BTW: Dan should know: that posting someone's photo - without contest  is a copy right violation - so as a moderator - he should, request that  u dont use Aishwarya's Photo _ now, especially because he KNOWS - if he  doesnt stop.. he would be infringing on IP & Copy right laws! Just because Indians dont  bark, doesnt mean they dont know

BTW AJ:

Dan knows a little something about the Intellectual Property (IP) and  copyright laws (very little). Did you actually READ the Terms of  Service document incorporated into the email you registered with?? If  not, I suggest you take a moment and visit the Administrative section  to peruse it.

While at it, you may want to take some time to read the laws about  copyright insofar as public figures are concerned. You may be surprised  to learn their images are not nearly so protected as you seem to think.

I kind of liked a fiancee's avatar, and am sorry your comments inspired  her to remove them. I also think you might be a tad more careful with  how you wordcraft some of your posts. She was offended, and others  interpreted your post in a similar fashion. At best, it was ambiguous.  When several people provide you consistent feedback, it MAY be  worthwhile to take a look in the mirror for the source.

FWIW

- Dan[/quote]