Difficulty to get a hot young Russian / Eastern European woman?

[mies]

so can i get a good geschaft in Russia?

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no.

Yeah why not. The photos can be found on the link below. I don't want them posted directly on this site.

http://www.urlgone.com/dd2073/

So ladies, feel free to give an honest opinion.

By ukrainian standards you are hot.
If you are average height - probably even "quite/very hot".
If you have light eyes (green/grey/blue), or if you are above 185 cm tall - super hot. With your appearance you just need to weed out the obvious gold-diggers, and in the remaining pool of girls - can easily select the girl for your taste.
Having said that - the process will still be costly for you, unless you meet a girl with rich parents who can pay for her relocation to your country, the wedding, and support her. (Likely, such girl will look for husband with high income).
If you are not very tall - you still are going to do fine. On average, ukrainians aren't as tall as Russians.

We have a phenotype in the country which is quite similar to yours, same face shape, but slightly different nose & mouth shape.

If you work out - you can get almost any normal ukrainian girl if you have at least minimal income (to be able to bring her to your country) and some brain/decency.
If you do not work out and stay as you are - you probably still can get attention of any random girl in Ukraine. And if you are charming/charmismatic enough in communication style - you can easily get her smitten.

[Lily]

I'd join the previous women's opinion.

As far as your appearance is concerned, you should be pretty well, unless, as pitbull noted, your height may eventually (not necessarily though!) be an issue. This type of appearance should in fact reveal positive feelings in the eyes of a female looker.

At the same time, besides a good appearance, other demonstrations of good male genes play a significant role, like your demeanor, manners, voice tone, and your overall ability of being interesting. Good news is that this ability can be developed up to its best by your own efforts. 

[GQBlues]

So ladies, feel free to give an honest opinion.

Well, I'm not a lady but willing to give you one man's honest opinion (You're 28 and Swedish and thinking of fishing outside your border, why? Swedish gals are 'hot').

Anyway...here's my two cents.

1. Lose 5-8 pounds. Especially around the face. You look like a regular chubby kid. You get a nice 'sunken' cheek, it'll raise both your jawbone and cheekbone lines, thus it'll highlight your eyes, which is where you want to draw women to.

2. Lose the Moses' sandals, man. Quick. They make your feet dirty, smelly and gross for women to want to stay with you. You won't be in Ukraine saving the Jews. You're a thousand years too late for that party. Dirty toes are very unsexy. - unless it's wrapped up in a Kenneth Cole casuals.

3. Your pictures sort of show you're too much in touch with your feminine side. I hope you're not gay waiting to happen. Your poses are like that of a woman who doesn't know what to do with herself. You're sending out wrong vibes, man. If you act like the way you look like in the pics, lose that pronto. Project a bit of masculinity and confidence. That'll permeate in the way you'll handle yourself overall. You always want to project a very strong presence no matter what you do or where you go.

Underneath all of the things I mentioned above, is a guy who is gifted with the natural tool to be a heartbreaker. Peel the banana layers above and you will.

[mies]

Well, I'm not a lady but willing to give you one man's honest opinion (You're 28 and Swedish and thinking of fishing outside your border, why? Swedish gals are 'hot').

Anyway...here's my two cents.


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about 2 and 3 - in Ukraine he would perfectly "fit in" both with sandals and his "feminine side". And as a personal opinion (not that it matters in this case) - for me too much of "masculinity" and machismo is a clear turn off in men. I think that a bit of feminine side in men is very attractive and charming. Plus, the OP doesn't look feminine to me at all. He is just European   You should see photos of "European parties" we are occasionally having here in US   I have a couple of Swiss and German friends, who are commonly perceived as gays by Americans because of the way they dress and their manners. But they are about as straight as it could get  

about final conclusion - fully agree. If he follows your advices he will be a heartbreaker.

I'm also curious what's wrong with dating swedish girls.

[Viking456]

Thanks for sharing
Well, my honest opinion: you're a nice looking guy, but I think you need to work out a bit, and if besides being nice looking you are able to impress a woman with your money or intellect, you'll be quite successful among Russian women The question is why would you want to marry precisely a Russian woman in the first place

It does not necessarily have to be a Russian woman. It could be any nationality.. But the two options that I lean mostly towards are Eastern Europe or Asia. I might find a Swedish girl too but if I don't within say 1-2 years then I'll definitely look abroad. Maybe even sooner.

Having said that - the process will still be costly for you, unless you meet a girl with rich parents who can pay for her relocation to your country, the wedding, and support her. (Likely, such girl will look for husband with high income).

Yeah but hopefully she'd be able to get a job of her own within a few years..

As far as your appearance is concerned, you should be pretty well, unless, as pitbull noted, your height may eventually (not necessarily though!) be an issue. This type of appearance should in fact reveal positive feelings in the eyes of a female looker.

At the same time, besides a good appearance, other demonstrations of good male genes play a significant role, like your demeanor, manners, voice tone, and your overall ability of being interesting. Good news is that this ability can be developed up to its best by your own efforts.  

I'm 179-180 cm.. So it should be OK I guess. The part about being interesting is probably a bit of a weak point for me.. Guess I live a bit too asocial life for being that interesting unfortunately. In the past I worked it up a bit but now I've lost it.. It's a bit bothersome to work it up, as I have a lot of things on my mind.

Well, I'm not a lady but willing to give you one man's honest opinion..

Thanks... Yeah I should probably be a bit more masculine at least for Swedish women.. Swedish guys in general might not be masculine enough due to all the feminist propaganda that we've brought up with. Maybe for Eastern women it doesn't matter as much I don't know. About the sandals, they are nice to have when it's warm and the toes stay fresher than if they'd been confined in a pair of shoes 

[tfcrew]

.... but rich people aren't stupid, or they wouldn't stay rich for long

Yet am I the only one who knows people that are dumb as a stump, but 'blessed' with bucks...and folks who are wise in many ways but never seem to have two nickels to rub together? 
 
 

[mies]

Yeah but hopefully she'd be able to get a job of her own within a few years..

yeah but why are you interested in "any" foreign woman? and why the timeframe is 1-2 years?

[Jumper]

I don't think you'd have any problem at all meeting women in Ukraine or Russia,
 just in every day life if you're  a bit outgoing.
Even if just on vacation there, you are close enough to go easily ,
and if you are not meeting Swedish women locally, then  why not?

I have no idea why you arent meeting women locally,
but it could be as simple as your social circle isn't large,
 or not really outgoing.
At 28 , some Swedish ,or any other nationality women would be initially interested in you.
Then it's up to you to keep their interest.
That wont change in the FSU,
but you wont have any troubles with getting initial interest there.
Not unlike an Australian coming to the US, the accent alone draws some interest.

[Nat]

Anyway...here's my two cents.

GQBlues, we're kinda having an open discussion here where nobody is shy, for example, Viking456 was kind enough to share his photos with us after he asked questions, so it'd be logical for you to support your essential tips on how a man on a photo should look with your own right photos

[Viking456]

yeah but why are you interested in "any" foreign woman? and why the timeframe is 1-2 years?

Well, because I reckon there could be nice girls of any nationality.. Just don't want to restrict myself. The time frame is 1-2 years because I don't want to have a dead love life forever. At some point I have to give up the idea of having a nice Swedish girl.

[Viking456]

I'm also curious what's wrong with dating swedish girls.

The only wrong thing is my lack of success with them.

I don't think you'd have any problem at all meeting women in Ukraine or Russia,
 just in every day life if you're  a bit outgoing.
Even if just on vacation there, you are close enough to go easily ,
and if you are not meeting Swedish women locally, then  why not?

I have no idea why you arent meeting women locally,
but it could be as simple as your social circle isn't large,
 or not really outgoing.
At 28 , some Swedish ,or any other nationality women would be initially interested in you.
Then it's up to you to keep their interest.
That wont change in the FSU,
but you wont have any troubles with getting initial interest there.
Not unlike an Australian coming to the US, the accent alone draws some interest.

Yes my social circle is not large. Furthermore my social circle contains zero women. Just engineers. And no I am not very outgoing although I've tried at bars many times but with no more success than the occasional make out or phone number. I also did a few miserable attempts at approaching women during the day "day game". One time I met a girl at a train though who I dated for a few months.. But in the end due to various reasons I lost motivation with it. Those things happened in the previous town I lived in mostly. In this town there's been a few dates that's led nowhere. And online dating doesn't work too well either for me. In this town there are twice as many guys on the dating sites as girls. After many failures the motivation starts to drop.

[JohnDearGreen]

Viking,
How tall are you?

Not to worry Vike.  There are many great looking FSU ladies around 5'2 plus or minus an inch or two.  I always regretted having to eliminate some of those as I am 6' 1.5.   So you might have to settle for a 5'2 one like this:
http://www.loveme.com/invar/services/women/women_extraphoto.php?wid=118430&wname=6_Marina
That shouldn't be too hard to deal with?

[Viking456]

Not to worry Vike.  There are many great looking FSU ladies around 5'2 plus or minus an inch or two.  I always regretted having to eliminate some of those as I am 6' 1.5.   So you might have to settle for a 5'2 one like this:
http://www.loveme.com/invar/services/women/women_extraphoto.php?wid=118430&wname=6_Marina
That shouldn't be too hard to deal with?

No wouldn't be too hard to live with  .. Unfortunately she has the same demands like all Swedish girls which I presently struggle to fulfill "He should be sincere, active, and kindhearted with a good sense of humor. He should like the outdoors, enjoy life, good friends, good food and good music. He should be secure in himself and be an optimistic person."

But I suppose I just need some warming up to get some humor going again. Unfortunately my life isn't that fun at the moment which makes it a bit harder.

Still, sounds good that most of the people so far thinks that my looks would be considered good in Russia/Ukraine.

[Misha]

GQBlues, we're kinda having an open discussion here where nobody is shy, for example, Viking456 was kind enough to share his photos with us after he asked questions, so it'd be logical for you to support your essential tips on how a man on a photo should look with your own right photos

Well said Nat!

[Misha]

I'm 179-180 cm.. So it should be OK I guess.

That is 5'11" which is a lot better than okay for most Russian women in most locations in Russia. Given your age, your height, your looks (not obese, not hideous), you would have not problems dating in Russia IMHO. Also 

[vwrw]

When it comes to men, I believe I have unique preferences, so I am going to refrain  from commenting on the OP’s appearance.
Here is link to 25 Russian  men who were chosen as handsome through voting.
 http://www.trud.ru/article/15-12-2010/255901_vybiraem_samogo_krasivogo_muzhchinu_rossii.html

You can judge for yourself if you are in the same league.

I think the most attractive of them are these three men.

[Viking456]

That is 5'11" which is a lot better than okay for most Russian women in most locations in Russia. Given your age, your height, your looks (not obese, not hideous), you would have not problems dating in Russia IMHO. Also 

Yes Only problem would be when she comes here and realizes she can have almost any guy here after a few years. My height is only average here. Still.. Could work out anyway..

You can judge for yourself if you are in the same league.

Hmm yeah difficult to say.. Probably not quite in the same league except for maybe a few of them.

[LAman]

Why all the talk of appearance???
Maybe Viking is having trouble with swedish women is because of his personality? He sure sounds like an introvert.
Looks can get a women but takes a lot more to keep one. I don't think you can acquire sense of humor or outgoing personality...I always say be yourself, if you have to work at it then standards/expectations should be lowered.
Just some food for thought....good luck.

[Misha]

My height is only average here.

In my wife's city, your height would have been well above average. Again, you won't have any problems as you will fulfill the main criteria: you will still be taller than most women even when they have their high heels on 

[Misha]

He sure sounds like an introvert. Looks can get a women but takes a lot more to keep one. I don't think you can acquire sense of humor or outgoing personality...I always say be yourself, if you have to work at it then standards/expectations should be lowered.
Just some food for thought....good luck.

Being an introvert, married now for close to 5 years, I can affirm this is not a problem if you find the right woman as it is a lot easier to date women in Russia, even very attractive women. If she loves you, then the introverted thing and the personality quirks are not an issue.

[Shostakovich]

Yes my social circle is not large. Furthermore my social circle contains zero women. Just engineers.

Big problem.  As an engineer also I've run this gauntlet.  In the mating hierarchy engineers generally are perceived as a step up from accountants.  That is to say, low risk, stable, kind of guys, not uninteresting, but surely not exciting.  They generally marry at their station - responsible albeit rather dowdy nurses, etc., others in the mid-stream of the professional spectrum, respectable girls and because the water has found its proper level, all are happy even at the sacrifice of a larger horizon whose perception often lingers in these associations as an undertone.  If you have aspirations to up the ante then your social and likely family circle is of absolutely no use, and worse a hindrance.  We know the drill with engineers - smart about engines, oils and circuits, and flat-footed in the rest.  Give 'em a pizza and you can get them to do anything.  The company you keep defines you to an extent - how you communicate, subjects discussed, social access, and if you are in a corporate system, you are basically expected to march, another mentality that is not going to help you break out.  Most companies only have room for a small number of geniuses whose quirks they tolerate since their survival depends on it but basically, most management is antithetical to these types as, in fact they find their place in the gray line and like it there. 

This is what I thought of when I naively stepped into the corporate world after graduation - what women that I could see being with would want this life?  So interesting to me to see the ways engineers try to be appealing to women, as if it were a matter of adopting an attitude, something foreign to them.  The worst were the ones who thought they had to tart up.  Tarted up engineer, there's good comedy.

So, my advice to you is that if you want to up the game you can't just do it hit and miss.  You've got to take more risk and get out of Dodge - no problem for a Viking.  Find someone with talent and start your own company.  Get the hot girl and she's not going to be happy talking about C++ with your buddies, you most likely won't keep her.  Engineers generally have sensory and emotional horizons of ants but there is hope since a class of women, in fact the best ones in my experience, find the connection to the man through the mind - it is what they look for, but the intellect needs to have a broader dimension than being able to distinguish your AMD from your Intel processors. 

[LAman]

Being an introvert, married now for close to 5 years, I can affirm this is not a problem if you find the right woman as it is a lot easier to date women in Russia, even very attractive women. If she loves you, then the introverted thing and the personality quirks are not an issue.

I am glad for you Misha but as I have heard many times here, there can be exceptions.
Over time, there may be issues with personalities.

[mies]

...

Engineers were one of the most common and respected profession in FSU By training my mom is mechanical engineer, and my dad is construction engineer.
I tend to disagree they are boring.

[Misha]

I am glad for you Misha but as I have heard many times here, there can be exceptions.
Over time, there may be issues with personalities.

Not a question of exceptions. Dating in Russia is easier. Women will agree quite easily to a first date if you are searching online. It is much easier meeting a woman one-on-one for a date than trying to pick up a stranger in a bar. These are things that level the playing field for introverts in Russia.

As for personalities, the challenge is finding someone whose personality is compatible with yours.

[mies]

No wouldn't be too hard to live with  .. Unfortunately she has the same demands like all Swedish girls which I presently struggle to fulfill "He should be sincere, active, and kindhearted with a good sense of humor. He should like the outdoors, enjoy life, good friends, good food and good music. He should be secure in himself and be an optimistic person."

But I suppose I just need some warming up to get some humor going again. Unfortunately my life isn't that fun at the moment which makes it a bit harder.

Still, sounds good that most of the people so far thinks that my looks would be considered good in Russia/Ukraine.

If you are ... gloomy and pessimistic, I don't think you will be able to keep a cheerful girl by your side.
But there are beautiful and relatively pessimistic girls ))))