Vincenzo's thread and Mamba debate

[Anotherkiwi]

True. Here r NO such girls.
Not only foreign, but even local. Young girls mostly look for wealthy good looking guys in their mid thirties.
Well if super wealthy...then yes some girls may go for it. 
Real feelings? Chance is 1 to 1.000.000

Ooh Sky_Blood, you've spoilt the dream!    Seriously,as you've said that we can ask you anything, how old are you and your fiance?  As you would already have seen, there are plenty of wide age gaps in the marriages amongst the posters here (I think the largest is close to 40 years), but also some which are much closer.  Do you and your serious friends have any opinion on what might be deemed a "suitable" gap, or do you think that most of it should simply be down to how you feel about the particular guy?  And do you think that you would allow an extra few years (3? 5? 10?) for a foreigner compared with a local man?
 
I'm personally not too worried what age my future wife is, so long as she is the one that I can love for the rest of my days (and who will hopefully love me in return for being me).  As I'm over 50 I'm realistically expecting her to be at least in her 40s, and I can't really see Miss Kharkov Eye Candy 2011 being interested! )

[Sky_Blood]

Ooh Sky_Blood, you've spoilt the dream!    Seriously,as you've said that we can ask you anything, how old are you and your fiance?  As you would already have seen, there are plenty of wide age gaps in the marriages amongst the posters here (I think the largest is close to 40 years), but also some which are much closer.  Do you and your serious friends have any opinion on what might be deemed a "suitable" gap, or do you think that most of it should simply be down to how you feel about the particular guy?  And do you think that you would allow an extra few years (3? 5? 10?) for a foreigner compared with a local man?
 
I'm personally not too worried what age my future wife is, so long as she is the one that I can love for the rest of my days (and who will hopefully love me in return for being me).  As I'm over 50 I'm realistically expecting her to be at least in her 40s, and I can't really see Miss Kharkov Eye Candy 2011 being interested! )

My fiancee is 7 years older. 
What I wanna say is that man over 50 can hardly get smart, pretty face, DD cup size chick.

[Vincenzo]

It all depends on the look and character.
It's especially difficult to be with a woman whose mind is in the other age group. You may like to go to opera, she - to night clubs. You read serious books, she - Cosmo.

If you look like this, you have a chance with Miss Kharkiv.

[Sky_Blood]

Ooh Sky_Blood, you've spoilt the dream!    Seriously,as you've said that we can ask you anything, how old are you and your fiance?  As you would already have seen, there are plenty of wide age gaps in the marriages amongst the posters here (I think the largest is close to 40 years), but also some which are much closer.  Do you and your serious friends have any opinion on what might be deemed a "suitable" gap, or do you think that most of it should simply be down to how you feel about the particular guy?  And do you think that you would allow an extra few years (3? 5? 10?) for a foreigner compared with a local man?
 
I'm personally not too worried what age my future wife is, so long as she is the one that I can love for the rest of my days (and who will hopefully love me in return for being me).  As I'm over 50 I'm realistically expecting her to be at least in her 40s, and I can't really see Miss Kharkov Eye Candy 2011 being interested! )

For most girls ideal age gap is 5-10, at the same time depending on particular guy it can be extended up to 20 years. Let me explain, its cuz of some psychological reasons its s-orta hard to overcome em - when ur husband is ur fathers age  it often results in sexual life problems.
Well tell u what - when like 20 yo girl +40 yo man its different from 30 yo girl+50 yo man. Cuz by 30 life priorities change. When u r young like 20 its a big deal about aesthetics...as I call it

[Sky_Blood]

It all depends on the look and character.
It's especially difficult to be with a woman whose mind is in the other age group. You may like to go to opera, she - to night clubs. You read serious books, she - Cosmo.

If you look like this, you have a chance with Miss Kharkiv.

like the guy )
well I m 22 and i like opera, but dont mind nite clubs. I do read Cosmo, but J.P Sartre and Camus are my favourite authors...idk how serious u consider such literature. Bukowski, Kerouac and Kesey among American literature.

[TwoBitBandit]

At least, if you pay money for a date with an Anastasia's girl, she'll show up and her look will be close to her photoshopped photos. Will a Mamba girl show up? 50%. What about her photos and description?

Of the 20 girls I met off mamba last summer, two flaked.  One was on a long bus ride from Altai which took longer than expected.  One was simply a raving bitch.  Two out of twenty-two isn't a bad ratio.  Young girls are sometimes flakey, just like here in the states.  (Incidentally, my rate doing this was much better than when I met girls through Lifetime Partners in Tver about three years ago, where a full 45% of the girls didn't show up.)


I had a similar feeling about photos.  I only had a couple of girls who were materially dishonest with their photos.


  Vincenzo, you're just throwing out straw-man arguments.   

[Patagonie]

Not only a photo, hundreds of photos, also videos and online Skype, her letters, etc.
Yes, my sister told me that the girl was very beautiful and I could get burned. That's life, at least I should try.

How to make her fall in love with me and maintain the fire? That's my biggest problem now. When I go there, I'll be at the same level as local men. I must do something beforehand.

It's a good question, Vincenzo.
What are, at your opinion, the solutions that you are thinking about ?
And why beforehand ?
Explain me what do you mean by "level" ?

[Anotherkiwi]

My fiancee is 7 years older. 
What I wanna say is that man over 50 can hardly get smart, pretty face, DD cup size chick.

Probably just as well that I'm not looking for her then (if by "chick" you mean in her twenties)!  But there are still lots of very smart, very pretty ladies (of all cup sizes) in their 30s and 40s, and even some in their 50s.  I might not be Pierce Brosnan or George Clooney, but I certainly look more appealing than Dogspot's avatar!

[Anotherkiwi]

For most girls ideal age gap is 5-10, at the same time depending on particular guy it can be extended up to 20 years. Let me explain, its cuz of some psychological reasons its s-orta hard to overcome em - when ur husband is ur fathers age  it often results in sexual life problems.
Well tell u what - when like 20 yo girl +40 yo man its different from 30 yo girl+50 yo man. Cuz by 30 life priorities change. When u r young like 20 its a big deal about aesthetics...as I call it

Thank you for that - it's good to get a YOUNG woman's view (Aloe - you're no longer alone!  ), and it reinforces what most have said on here in the past.  I was probably reasonably "aesthetic" in my twenties - but I was married then!

[Misha]

At least, if you pay money for a date with an Anastasia's girl, she'll show up and her look will be close to her photoshopped photos.
Will a Mamba girl show up? 50%. What about her photos and description?

Have you ever met any women via mamba? You have all these assumptions, yet clearly have not ever used mamba. Having met a number of women, I can also attest to the fact that the women posted real photos and that if a woman agreed to meet you for a date, she showed up. In fact, more often than not, the women were more attractive in real life than in the less than professional photos they invariably posted 

[Sky_Blood]

How to make her fall in love with me and maintain the fire? That's my biggest problem now.

If u find out how to make the girl fall in love, could u please share this info? )

Thank you for that - it's good to get a YOUNG woman's view (Aloe - you're no longer alone!  ), and it reinforces what most have said on here in the past.  I was probably reasonably "aesthetic" in my twenties - but I was married then!

) There r many attractive men in their 40s and 50s, so its not always about age. Many girls( well since i sorta was successful finding my significant other) ask me for some advice...and it turns out they all want 1.young 2.hot 3.rich 4.smart men like the one shown on the pic Vincenzo posted looks with six figuires salary. It's a torture to explain y it's hard to get such a guy...it seems like they all wanna get perfect dream guy. So I wish em all the best...So do I when I see men trying to find Angelina-Jolie-10-years-ago chick who would be also smart, caring, loving, family oriented, not money hungry, not bitchy, not bossy, not too demanding, understanding and whatnot, the list seems to be endless.
*** Angelina Jolie was just an example( In Russia all men want Anfisa Chehova/Anna Semenovich/Janna Friske)
Its just...idk frustrating...cuz everybody claims that whats looked for is love. meh...I m old-fashioned )

[Misha]

Yes, my sister told me that the girl was very beautiful and I could get burned.

Listen to your sister.

How to make her fall in love with me and maintain the fire? That's my biggest problem now. When I go there, I'll be at the same level as local men. I must do something beforehand.

The thing is, there is no way of ever making a woman falling in love with you before you meet. There is nothing you can do to guarantee that she will fall in love with you when you do meet. Sure, you may be able to intrigue her or even develop an intellectual rapport, but the falling in love thing can never be guaranteed. 

[Faux Pas]

My fiancee is 7 years older. 
What I wanna say is that man over 50 can hardly get smart, pretty face, DD cup size chick.

Oh they can get them quite easily. That has been proven many times. The question is can they keep them? Those numbers do not favor the 50 year old.

[Sky_Blood]

Oh they can get them quite easily. That has been proven many times. The question is can they keep them? Those numbers do not favor the 50 year old.

True. Just used wrong word. By 'get' i mean find someone who would have real feelings for u...not just screwing u over for citizeship or any other type of taking advantage

PS forgot to post Anfisa's and Janna's pics

[Sky_Blood]

The thing is, there is no way of ever making a woman falling in love with you before you meet.

There is no way of ever MAKING anyone fall in love. U can be yourself, u can try to pretend...u can do whatever u want or think is right to do, but u can't make anyone fall in love. She/He either falls in love or doesnt. Tertium non datum

[Misha]

There is no way of ever MAKING anyone fall in love. U can be yourself, u can try to pretend...u can do whatever u want or think is right to do, but u can't make anyone fall in love. She/He either falls in love or doesnt. Tertium non datum

I agree which is why I also wrote there is no way of guaranteeing that a woman will fall in love with you when you meet.

[Muzh]

*** Angelina Jolie was just an example( In Russia all men want Anfisa Chehova/Anna Semenovich/Janna Friske)
Its just...idk frustrating...cuz everybody claims that whats looked for is love. meh...I m old-fashioned )

I can see two good reasons why the guys in Russia want her. Hell, the guys here too.

[Faux Pas]

I can see two good reasons why the guys in Russia want her. Hell, the guys here too.

Two big reasons 

[Sky_Blood]

I can see two good reasons why the guys in Russia want her. Hell, the guys here too.

Two big reasons 

CMN! Stop it gentlemen )

[OlgaH]

Janna Friske

[Sky_Blood]

Janna Friske

 

[Daveman]

Two big reasons 

HAHAH!  I was thinking exactly along the same curve... er... lines.. in fact for a few moments I couldn't think of any other lines whatsoever... Bad dave 




Vincenzo, you seem to be a nice guy with super romantic dreams.  Nothing really wrong with that as we all have varying degrees of that.  The thing is, all of that letter writing, skyping, etc, can and does (sometimes) all vaporize in an instant when you meet.  You can do as much as you can do prior to going to ensure that you will have a higher chance of compatibility, but Skype/letters/etc are all projections of your visions onto the lady (and hers on you).. you are both living in dreams, even when you discuss practical aspects, you are still dreaming together of how it will be.


Nothing wrong with a VO trip.. I met all of mine through VO, and I never had a "bad" first meeting. I also understand the VM approach.  It's more along the lines of viewing profiles in person.  Meet a bunch and then communicate with those with whom there is a great attraction/chemistry.


Neither is right or wrong.  Just do whatever you feel comfortable doing and be yourself.  I read earlier that you were in Odessa, so you've been on the ground there, I take it to meet this particular lady your sister warns you about?  If this is the only lady you've ever met, and it lasts all the way to marriage, AND you bring her over, and it lasts after that, then you are very fortunate.  Most aren't so lucky to find a "soul mate" or "other half" with the first woman they meet -- no matter how wonderful the communication or lack thereof beforehand...

[Faux Pas]

CMN! Stop it gentlemen )

heh heh, sweetface, we're old, we ain't blind 

[Muzh]

heh heh, sweetface, we're old, we ain't blind 

<cleaning my bifocals>

[Vincenzo]

What are, at your opinion, the solutions that you are thinking about ?
And why beforehand ?
Explain me what do you mean by "level" ?

I don't like boring girls. I think it's true for girls.

When I communicate, I try to show that I'm not boring.
I wrote in my profile that I like humor and I try to tell jokes.
I wrote that I like music and I play the guitar.

But the most important thing is attention. For example, flowers sent by a man to a woman mean a lot. They're a sign of attention.