Any single, un-attached guy in Kiev May 27-30?

[Boethius]

What are the *real* chances of their safety being an issue? 

Without commenting on this particular situation, you don't know that the real chances are, Dave.  You've never been a woman.  You don't know how often women are put in situations in which their physical safety is in jeopardy.

If I wouldn't have done this in my youth, and I presently wouldn't want my daughter to do this, I certainly wouldn't think it A-OK for someone else's daughter.

[Daveman]

Without commenting on this particular situation, you don't know that the real chances are, Dave.  You've never been a woman.  You don't know how often women are put in situations in which their physical safety is in jeopardy.

If I wouldn't have done this in my youth, and I presently wouldn't want my daughter to do this, I certainly wouldn't think it A-OK for someone else's daughter.

I didn't claim to know.


So enlighten me... what are the real chances (keep in mind - a man with a passport and known identity, a foreigner who most likely cannot blend in, who eventually, at some point, must go to the airport) of being harmful to women with whom he shares an apartment?  And how does "being a woman" make one more or less aware of the real chances?  And, do the women, in this situation, not have control over whether or not "women are put (by whom?) in situations in which their physical safety is in danger?"


I don't see how your (or anyone's) personal choice not to do this in her youth,  not wanting your daughter to do this, or not thinking it's A-OK for someone else's daughter is relevant.  Cautious and a safe choice, but not relevant as evidence supporting the assumption.


What's the evidence?

[Boethius]

Because women are almost always more attuned to the dangers strangers can present to them physically.  Men don't typically worry, if they invite a woman to their home, that they may be date raped.  They don't usually have to think, when they go to a bar, that someone may put something in a drink and they'll wake up in a stranger's bed, with no memory of what happened. 

Having a passport is irrelevant.  I know a lot of women who have been date raped by men known to them, and more who have been groped or fended off attacks.  One friend was sexually assaulted by two workers at a bus depot (won't name the company), when she went to pick up a package late at night.  Their names were easily identifiable, but that didn't stop them.  One of my colleagues was physically attacked by a partner at one office I worked at.  She stopped the attack by managing to force herself to vomit all over him.   Another colleague was physically attacked in her office by a partner (at a different firm, where I didn't work).  When she filed a sexual harassment complaint, she was fired.  She was a young associate and expendable.  He was a senior partner.  She dropped it, but years later, was still bitter about it.  I have, literally, dozens of such stories, and I'm sure the women here could tell you many more.  Do you really believe that every man is an absolute gentleman? 

Yes, women may take a risk, for many reasons.  This isn't about my "personal choices" or what I would or would not do.  It's about choice, period.  Ask the women would they rather share a room with a man unknown to them, or have their own room.  Nine times out of ten, I'm sure you know what the answer will be.

[GQBlues]

http://spynet.ru/blog/pics/31718.html

    Holly toothless wonders!
 

Firstly, we don't know what (if any) screening process is present.  Secondly, we don't know what role, if any, the ladies themselves played in the decision (aside from the obvious).

The process of deduction. It's pretty simple really...
 
From the very beginning of this very thread, if what you brought up was even close to being true...considering the follow-up post by the OP, in the aftermath of bringing this matter to his attention, one would think that he, himself, would have offered up the notion the women knew all along. But no, instead he pretty much responded with anything but what you implied. So nope...I don't think what you suggested is applicable.
 

What are the *real* chances of their safety being an issue? 

LOL. Yeppers. Even the careful, best laid plans can absolutely go whacko to the best of them, or even to the ....
 

Since they are also more likely (IMO) to become inebriated, slip and hurt themselves on the dance floor - perhaps they should also be protected from that possibility by requiring them to wear motorcycle helmets to be protected from their own decisions.

Yup, perhaps....or perhaps someone running a respectable business, in the most respectable manner, wouldn't be so tight as to shell out 100 bucks, more or less, to provide accomodations to women he extended an invitation to, no? That's what this whole thing is really all about, is it not? That is about as simple and clear as it will ever get.
 
You can throw more logs into the fire in hopes of swaying the attention unto something else but sooner than later shades of black ashes remains. That's the bottom line. A few measly dollars, Daveman. Likely even less if you're a native renting a flat. That's what this is all about.
 
My opinion still firmly stands. It's irresponsible for anyone to do that. For a hundred bucks, why even fudge.
 
But that's just me...
 

[Daveman]

I don't deny that violence against women occurs.  You have some examples.  I've known thousands of women, and do not know of a single one who has been personally involved (to my recollection) in a violent situation such as those (of course, I'm sure there will be some "reason" why -- they just won't talk to me, etc) ... only one with a domestic violence case with her former husband. Purse snatching, robbery, etc, yes, know a few..


Of course I don't believe every man is a gentleman, but I am also highly skeptical and very curious as to what the real chances are of this happening. 


Yes, I am sure if given a choice to have her own room, she'd take it as opposed to staying with a stranger (or, god forbid, get a few together and, GASP, pay for their own rooms), and joking in the thread aside, I do believe most guys probably would prefer their own rooms as well.   She also has the choice not to attend at all or to leave if her super hyper attunement gives her the heebie jeebies when she meets the roommate. 


Having a passport (used to enter/exit the country) is indeed relevant because they (the authorities) will know exactly who he is.


A woman being more "attuned" to potential danger doesn't provide evidence as to how likely it is to actually occur. 


So, how often is something dropped into a woman's drink?  Yes, she may have fears of this, just as many people are afraid to fly.. but fears are not evidence.  I'd like to find some real evidence as to how likely this is to actually occur.


I still think the real chance of the women in this scenario being harmed is extremely low.  So low as to border being ridiculous.

[Daveman]

 
...
 
Yup, perhaps....or perhaps someone running a respectable business, in the most respectable manner, wouldn't be so tight as to shell out 100 bucks, more or less, to provide accomodations to women he extended an invitation to, no? That's what this whole thing is really all about, is it not? That is about as simple and clear as it will ever get.

And I don't necessarily disagree with that.  I'd just like to hear a bit more information from the source.

You can throw more logs into the fire in hopes of swaying the attention unto something else but sooner than later shades of black ashes remains. That's the bottom line. A few measly dollars, Daveman. Likely even less if you're a native renting a flat. That's what this is all about.
 
My opinion still firmly stands. It's irresponsible for anyone to do that. For a hundred bucks, why even fudge.
 
But that's just me...

Funny how different perspectives come into play.  I don't see myself as tossing logs on a fire raising the smoke screen in an effort to obscure one aspect to focus attention on another.  I'm questioning how likely it actually is for something to happen to these women, and how much personal responsibility comes into play.  yeah, an hundred bucks isn't much.. but I'd still like to hear more about the situation.

[Boethius]

I don't disagree, the risks are negligible.  Plus, in Soviet times, strangers sharing  hotel rooms, even communal kitchens/bathrooms in apartments, in Ukraine was common.  Nevertheless, there are lots of things that are negligible risks, but that doesn't mean that because of this, we should ignore them and place ourselves in positions where they may arise. 

There have been women in Ukraine raped by foreigners, though I have no idea of the rate of incidence.  I suspect it is low.  Nevertheless, it has occurred.   There was one American, eventually murdered by his RW (she was either acquitted or not charged with his murder, because of documented abuse), who bragged to other men on his tour of forcing girls in Kyiv to give him oral sex.  No UW ever came forward with a complaint.  I can't recall his name, but it was reported in a major US magazine.  I can't recall which, perhaps Vanity Fair.

[Muzh]

Muzh, of course those girls with whom you were parting were marriage minded and looking for their potential husbands as you were looking for a wife among them.  You also found them through a bride agency (or better to say they were offered to you in add by the bride agency's owner in commercial section on a forum)  and you even got a reserved VIP table in a night club  from the bride agency's owner  for sharing your apartment with those potential brides-to-be. BTW how much it cost you at that time, if it is not a secret 

My goodness, where did you get that info?


I don't know who else besides Neeley who knows me for more than 10 years when I started, I never used an agency nor spend time in any commercial section of a bride-to-be-outfit. I only did one trip to Ukraine to meet my now wife. That was it.

[GoodOlBoy]

I do believe most guys probably would prefer their own rooms as well.   

I don't know about "most guys", but GOB would definitely want his own room.
 
Look, when GOB was young, dumb, and full of c#%, he did some crazy sh#t during R&R trips with the Marines in places like...Bangkok, Subic Bay...etc. 
 
But eventually I got married and did grow up (a little  ) and now that I am almost 55, I realize that I damn sure don't look like I did when I was 20, regardless of "family genes"  and "vitamins"  and jogging on the beach weekday mornings here in N. Miami.
 
Hell, when my wife's 2 best girlfriends were here visiting from Omsk a couple of weeks ago, they stayed in our spare bedroom for a few nights.
 
I felt very uncomfortable at first and I was VERY self conscious about how I presented myself to these ladies, especially first thing in the morning.
 
Not so much because of my own "insecurities", but because I didn't want them to come away with a bad impression of my wife's choice of a mate.
 
I have mentioned it before in other threads on RWD, Marina is 10.5 years younger than GOB.

 
GOB
 
 
BTW.......One of the ladies (Elena) walked over to the beach with me a couple of the mornings and went jogging. She said it was great, much more fun than going to the gym in Omsk. 

[Muzh]

 
 
Boy, oh boy.
 
The last two pages are reminiscent of the liberals in congress trying to force more regulations into an industry in order to protect the innocent.
 
Bravo, welcome to real life.

[Boethius]

So, Muzh, would you want your daughter sharing a hotel room with a stranger in Manhattan?  Heck, even maids aren't safe.

[Muzh]

So, Muzh, would you want your daughter sharing a hotel room with a stranger in Manhattan?  Heck, even maids aren't safe.

I see it went Mach 2 over your head.
 
No I wouldn't like my daughter staying in a NYC hotel with a stranger.
 
Read again what I wrote. Hint: I'm a liberal.

[Boethius]

Sorry.

One never knows, around here.

[Daveman]

 
Boy, oh boy.
 
The last two pages are reminiscent of the liberals in congress trying to force more regulations into an industry in order to protect the innocent.
 
Bravo, welcome to real life.

LoL!!  Interesting analogy!


I don't really see any of them as "innocent" in need of protection, but hey.. that was a good one. 

[SFandEE]

The last two pages are reminiscent of the liberals in congress trying to force more regulations into an industry in order to protect the innocent.
 
Bravo, welcome to real life.

Haven't followed the thread that closely.  Seems like an ad has been placed to meet nice prospective wives by sharing an apartment.


So apart from the position that government is unable to protect the innocent.  What is the position.  Is the position that the innocent are safe with the predators or that all is well in real life, no need for police, firemen, or for that matter military (for the sensitive in that group--soldiers, airmen, seamen, marines, and guard).  Or life is tough everyone out for themselves--caveat emptor is a popular term thrown around.

[Muzh]

Sorry.

One never knows, around here.

No need to bash yourself so hard over the head. That icon is awful.
 
I always said that what you write and what you say (same exact words) are not the same thing. For example, a wink while saying something will totaly change the meaning of it.

[OlgaH]

My goodness, where did you get that info?

Muzh. I was kidding  Of course the example of your young age experience was out of the MOB content 

I don't disagree but just see it as a bigger picture - yes, the bottom line is that it is a business. They do directly benefit a business, but also themselves - in whatever way that may be - the chance to meet someone special, or get some free food and fun, potentially have some nut take them on a shopping spree, whatever.  So they may have been invited but choose to come for personal benefit. Why else would they be there?

They are adults with the capability and responsibility of making decisions for themselves.  Decisions which they do make for the potential of personal gain. 

They all take advantage for themselves.. the men, Jack, and the ladies. They are *all* in it for something/ some kind of gain or they wouldn't be doing it.

Daveman, I agree it is simply a business and Jack said: "We take advantage of the economical situation".

Everybody is happy, Jack gets his money for bread and butter, his clients get a set of female companions and VIP tables, and the young girls "looking for foreign husbands" get their free drinks, dining and probably shopping if they get so lucky...  and Femen girls still have their national flower wreath with ribbons. But most important is everybody is happy and special after a few drinks in the heat of night clubs!

Regarding girls safety. As I said before,most likely  it is not a first time for them to hang out with strange men so they pretty much have their experience  and can handle themselves.
Men should worry about safety of the contents of  their wallets probably more  Though they come to spend, so it doesn't matter.

How much two young California girls would cost them per day?  more over in comparison with the variety of goods in Ukraine! 

[GQBlues]

There are others in the crowd who think little of Jack - among them are BC, OlgaH, Boethius, GQBlues (did I miss anyone?).

FWIW Dan, firstly I never met Jack so the underlying sentiment I have of him is indifference. I do however have opinions 'of' him and 'what he does' based solely information brought about by either himself through these boards by his words and by his actions.
 
They are:
 
1. His interview with GQ Magazine. What better way to compose an opinion of someone but one shaped by the very words coming from the horse's mouth. Anyone is free to read the article and they are free to form their respective opinions from that. I arrived perfectly fine with mine.
 
It seem rather funny to me how folks get up in arms about shows like Dr Phil and how it color their chosen bride seeking venue in a bad light YET fail to see, or choose not to see that what happened in Dr Phil's pales in comparision to what their glorified peer do with abandon.
 
From the article...
 

We take advantage of the economical situation,"....."In any area where the economics are declining, these girls are looking to leave."

I go to Moscow"...and I see Svetlana and, oh my God, I fall for Svetlana. She speaks pretty good English, and boy, I could never get a girl like this in the States, and I convinced myself I was going to marry Svetlana. Then I flew to St. Petersburg, because I’d promised to see Veronika. I go to St. Petersburg to see Veronika, and oh my God, she’s stunning. So I come back to the States, and I start to weigh the pros and cons. Svetlana’s a gorgeous girl, but she doesn’t have great tits, and I like tits.

Read More http://www.gq.com/news-politics/mens-lives/200803/russian-bride-america-putin#ixzz1NNcemSBH
 
Now, can you just imagine had this interview happened on Dr. Phil's Show instead of GQ? People got on that old fat fart dude on DP's show as though he was the antichrist of all things MOB, but then glorify the likes of those who state the above on GQ mag. as saintly.
 
2. We keep trying to seek the fine line to determine whether or not his trade (socials) separates itself from the sinister sex trade we all know too well. Folks rush to his defense because certain folks appear dislike Jack because they feel he had long encroached that boundary. Are these allegations true? Personally I do not know. Many feel it isn't.
 
However, making statements like those above, then posting endless pics of the young and the fleshy (he doesn't know nor is permitted to) certainly doesn't quite support the notion of sainthood of Jack Bragg, no?
 
3. Has Jack's services resulted in marriages? Apparently so...folks use this passage as some form of validation. Whoopeee, marriages happen on AW and HRB as well..so what's really the point others are trying to make here?
 
4. Yup, never been to Jack's Socials. Matter of fact, never been to any at all. However, I've seen enough pics to simply understand some things in life aren't just for everyone. How can I have such an opposing opinions if I never tried it, yada, yada, yada? Give that silly argument some rest. I don't have to stick my finger in a pile of sh!t to understand certain things that appear as such is likely to be so...
 
Testimonials? LOL. I will separate what Jack does (since I don't really know in depth) to what I'll present only for the sake of making a point. I am certain drug users give out a few shouts for their respective dealers. Long time practicing pedophiles will likely hand out raving props for their contacts, too.
 
So in this sense, what is the point being made with testimonials? Take it with a grain of salt, I say..You get a group of men who largely can't otherwise get attention, let alone dates, with women their ages at home, then slam them with women from impoverished regions of our globe they can take advantage of (Jack's words) who also happens to be much younger and prettier than those blokes - well heck of course, you'd get a lot of hootin' and hollerin', man. LOL, this ain't rocket science, you know. You don't need to have an experience in this endeavor as long as the river Nile to understand that simple dynamics.
 
Of course, on the other side of the scale, Jack once said that even the fact IMBRA had not actively exercised it's regulations before, Jack nonetheless freely complied to it's regulation. I gave him props for that, and appropriately so...
 
In the end Dan, I agree with BC. Jack is really no different than Eduard in that they are service providers. I was hard on Eduard for no other reason than I thought he was roaming around choking the threads to simply promote his business. I wasn't the only who felt this way, which I believe included you as well. The fact Jack gets to post threads that serves nothing more than to juice his business up in sections like the Trip Report section - OPENLY - seem rather unfair to the likes of Eduard. Does Jack Bragg enjoys greater latitude and leniency with you? I don't know. Only you know that, it just appears to be so from where I sit.
 
In the end, do I dislike Jack (or Eduard)? Based on the above, well I'll let you be the judge of that.

[Daveman]

...

Now, can you just imagine had this interview happened on Dr. Phil's Show instead of GQ? People got on that old fat fart dude on DP's show as though he was the antichrist of all things MOB, but then glorify the likes of those who state the above on GQ mag. as saintly.
 
...

I certainly don't consider Jack saintly.  But really, all of these agencies are peddling flesh with economic disparity as an underlying (or flatly stated) theme.  That's how they make their money, from EM to AW,  to Ed, to Mom and Pops (if any are left), to FirstDream/Jack.


Like it or not, at least it's honest.  That's the opinion of most even around here as to why guys go there - to catch a wife hotter (and younger) than at home, and for some tits play a role in the hotness factor.  At least he's not peddling "Traditional women who'll love an ugly idiot just because Russian men drink and are terrible". 


I'd say the only men unaffected by this "flesh trade" aspect of all this are those who met randomly while in the country for something else.  It *is* kinda an ugly business from certain angles of perspective, but for those happily married, at least some good came from it.


I neither condone nor condemn. It is what it is which I think is part of BC's point up thread.  edit: oops, maybe it was another thread where BC made his points.


Like others, I have no need to defend Jack, but just writing about the bigger picture as I see it.

[BC]

I neither condone nor condemn. It is what it is which I think is part of BC's point up thread. 

Dave,

Yes, you interpreted correctly, as did GQ.  I can only imagine the TR section filled to overflow with butt 'n tits pics from all commercial providers.. LOL  I know quite a few have objected, but heck, why not just make a section that is better suited for that purpose.  "Jack's Butt 'n Tits' is quite fine by me.  A rock is a rock, but don't try telling me I can enjoy eating it.

In the end Dan, I agree with BC. Jack is really no different than Eduard in that they are service providers. I was hard on Eduard for no other reason than I thought he was roaming around choking the threads to simply promote his business. I wasn't the only who felt this way, which I believe included you as well. The fact Jack gets to post threads that serves nothing more than to juice his business up in sections like the Trip Report section - OPENLY - seem rather unfair to the likes of Eduard.

[Admin]

In the end Dan, I agree with BC. Jack is really no different than Eduard in that they are service providers. I was hard on Eduard for no other reason than I thought he was roaming around choking the threads to simply promote his business. I wasn't the only who felt this way, which I believe included you as well. The fact Jack gets to post threads that serves nothing more than to juice his business up in sections like the Trip Report section - OPENLY - seem rather unfair to the likes of Eduard. Does Jack Bragg enjoys greater latitude and leniency with you? I don't know. Only you know that, it just appears to be so from where I sit.
 
In the end, do I dislike Jack (or Eduard)? Based on the above, well I'll let you be the judge of that.

GQ,

Late yesterday I expressed my frustration in the Moderator forum that when a group of people start into one of their rants against Jack, in the interest of exercising RWD's policies in an even-handed manner, I recognize that it can appear I am protecting Jack - and that is NOT what I am doing or intend to do - but it can appear that I am protecting Jack. So be it.

To some extent, the same sort of thing happens when I try to closely examine the A-web business model. Those who are openly antagonistic (to the point of being zealots) become offended whenever ANYTHING that is *NOT* negative is written. Such is the nature of internet fora.

Jack, more than most, attracts controversy. He brings it on himself. As I once heard said about Charles Barkley, Jack has one of the 'shortest distances between brain and mouth' of the people I know. Jack is brash and brazen and loud. Turboguy called it "dynamic" but I think that is too polished.

In the thread I split out of this one, there are some ancient criticisms posted (actually re-posted) about Jack. If you look at the genesis and the ensuing undisputed facts, you realize Jack was correct in what he posted some years ago (now more than a decade) and he endured the consequence of a counter-attack. Many people would never have posted what Jack posted that led to the counter-attack. In fact, many people THEN who knew what was going in did not post anything - but Jack did.

There are numerous other facts and details that Jack has gotten 'right' over the years - and many that are unpopular or offensive so others remain silent. Not Jack. His brash personality and his access to information from his many trips and many contacts often means that Jack is THE first, or among the first, to be aware of what is going on in-country - where it REALLY matters.

Jack, like Eduard, plays fast and loose with stats and numbers to support his claims. The difference is that Jack can, when challenged, *usually* come up with some substantiation. I have never known Jack to pull numbers out of thin air the way I have witnessed Eduard - AND - when caught with some feeble information, Jack is known to back away. Grudgingly, perhaps - but I've won more than my share of fact battles with Jack and he has never done as Eduard did and persist for months with holding onto something that he knew was full of holes.

Finally - and I'll leave this for you all to chew on. Look at the issues that are Jack's REAL hot-buttons. In the other topic he was attacked in retaliation for exposing an extra-marital affair. I have known Jack since about the time he married Natalya, and I met up with Natalya once or twice when she was traveling through Ukraine and I was in-country. I know with certainty Jack had multiple opportunities to 'fool around' while married to Natalya, and he did not avail himself of those. Jack's other 'hot-button' is agency involvement in pornography. GQ - you met Ashley. If you remain in contact with him, ask Ashley where he learned of those sites he used to confront John at the Banks program. These issues that Jack holds dear offer insight into his values. Insight that is hidden from those who look only at the bluster and the brashness - and yes, the bandana and the crude comment about "tits." Jack is clearly not a persona that will get along with everyone - though he also, quite clearly and IMO, has some strengths and values not often seen amongst his peers.

And BTW - Gator tells me Eduard is a VERY nice guy. I believe him.

FWIW

- Dan

[Daveman]

Dave,

Yes, you interpreted correctly, as did GQ.  I can only imagine the TR section filled to overflow with butt 'n tits pics from all commercial providers.. LOL  I know quite a few have objected, but heck, why not just make a section that is better suited for that purpose.  "Jack's Butt 'n Tits' is quite fine by me.  A rock is a rock, but don't try telling me I can enjoy eating it.

Yes, and the idiotic part is, I meant to keep THAT above GQ quote as well and agree with it, but my quote editing zapped it and then I flat forgot it.   I wasn't actually debating GQ's post, but just adding my random thoughts.  I need more coffee and doughnuts.

[Jack]

First let me say I really have very little time, in fact less than 20 minutes before we have a rather large get together.  With the exception of goodoleboy's post, I have been advised my legal council not to comment,  I will respond to all questions, remarks and to those, such as GQ, who don't have a clue, when time permit's, probably next week.   But I do want to take a second and reply to GQ's latest post.  Does GQ think he has something for him to be proud of and me to be ashamed of?   Well in poor ole GQ's mind, he probably does.   People, NOTHING was quoted or printed in the GQ magazine that I did not first say on this site.  Everything quoted on GQ can be found on RWD long before the GQ article came out.  It didn't offend GQ at that time, wonder why it did after appearing in the magazine?   Am I ashamed for stating the obvious, we men go to the places and regions where we can get the best woman possible?  And if those are economically depressed area's, as they are, what in the world is wrong with stating the facts as they are?  Again, does GQ think I am ashamed of making such a statement?     It is the truth, plain and simple.  I have the ball's to state the obvious truth that some people want to deny or sweep under a rock.  Does GQ think he could fine the type wife he has now in America?   NOT a chance in hell. NO WAY!   GQ had to go to a country that was more economically depressed than his own to find such a woman.  Duhhhhhhhh.    Why did GQ not find a local beauty?  Because he could not, plain and simple.   Am I ashamed of telling men that they can get the type of woman they have always dreamed of?   Am I ashamed of indicating that I prefer women with nice breast?  NO,  I am NOT ashamed of this. It is nothing more than the truth.  All you men, if you want, you can get the type woman you have always, or, first dreamed about.  You want a woman with small breast, they have them here.  You want a woman with large breast, they have them here.  And no one should be ashamed of admitting such.  Unless you have the pea brain or IQ of someone like GQ.   GQ, unlike you in your dream world and wanting to be referred to as GQ,  I, unlike you, made GQ.  Swallow that little boy.   Anyway I have to run now, will address everyone, except GOB, next week.  Just wanted those to know that if GQ is embarrassed or offended by my quotes in GQ, I certaintly am not.   

[Daveman]

ah well... certainly this will become interesting. 


I think I need a little     let's get a kegger! 

[GQBlues]

First let me say I really have very little time, in fact less than 20 minutes before we have a rather large get together.  With the exception of goodoleboy's post, I have been advised my legal council not to comment,  I will respond to all questions, remarks and to those, such as GQ, who don't have a clue, when time permit's, probably next week.   But I do want to take a second and reply to GQ's latest post.  Does GQ think he has something for him to be proud of and me to be ashamed of?   Well in poor ole GQ's mind, he probably does.   People, NOTHING was quoted or printed in the GQ magazine that I did not first say on this site.  Everything quoted on GQ can be found on RWD long before the GQ article came out.  It didn't offend GQ at that time, wonder why it did after appearing in the magazine?   Am I ashamed for stating the obvious, we men go to the places and regions where we can get the best woman possible?  And if those are economically depressed area's, as they are, what in the world is wrong with stating the facts as they are?  Again, does GQ think I am ashamed of making such a statement?     It is the truth, plain and simple.  I have the ball's to state the obvious truth that some people want to deny or sweep under a rock.  Does GQ think he could fine the type wife he has now in America?   NOT a chance in hell. NO WAY!   GQ had to go to a country that was more economically depressed than his own to find such a woman.  Duhhhhhhhh.    Why did GQ not find a local beauty?  Because he could not, plain and simple.   Am I ashamed of telling men that they can get the type of woman they have always dreamed of?   Am I ashamed of indicating that I prefer women with nice breast?  NO,  I am NOT ashamed of this. It is nothing more than the truth.  All you men, if you want, you can get the type woman you have always, or, first dreamed about.  You want a woman with small breast, they have them here.  You want a woman with large breast, they have them here.  And no one should be ashamed of admitting such.  Unless you have the pea brain or IQ of someone like GQ.   GQ, unlike you in your dream world and wanting to be referred to as GQ,  I, unlike you, made GQ.  Swallow that little boy.   Anyway I have to run now, will address everyone, except GOB, next week.  Just wanted those to know that if GQ is embarrassed or offended by my quotes in GQ, I certaintly am not.   

So Dan, *honestly* tell me....
 
Could I have possibly make a stronger point than this? LOL...