Any single, un-attached guy in Kiev May 27-30?

[Admin]

So Dan, *honestly* tell me....
 
Could I have possibly make a stronger point than this? LOL...

Well, that kind of "brashness" is not the sort I was referencing in my earlier post - though it *is* vintage Jack.

- Dan

[GQBlues]

Well, that kind of "brashness" is not the sort I was referencing in my earlier post - though it *is* vintage Jack.

- Dan

So I presume the like/dislike issue you mentioned prior should now be a bit easier to understand. I hope...
 
 

[BC]

So Dan, *honestly* tell me....
 
Could I have possibly make a stronger point than this? LOL...

Modus operandi

If you can't checkmate, obfuscate.

[Admin]

So I presume the like/dislike issue you mentioned prior should now be a bit easier to understand. I hope...
 
 

Oh, I surely *do* understand. Candidly, some of Jack's 'style' annoys the he** out of me. I guess, like I do with many, I mostly just chalk it up to them (Jack, in this case) being themselves - and so long as it does not really HARM anyone, they are left to be themselves. It gets a little tricky trying to manage this shiite in the context of RWD at times - as I suspect you can imagine.

- Dan

[GQBlues]

.... GQ - you met Ashley. If you remain in contact with him, ask Ashley where he learned of those sites he used to confront John at the Banks program.....

btw Dan-
 
I hope this isn't off topic, but it may interest you to know there's a story upon a story on this little segment as well. How true is the cautionary label we read: "Warning! objects are closer than they appear!".
 
Not making accusations/allegations directed at any one, but rather citing things I know as they are that I cannot freely share.
 
It is of no coincidence that there's an unknown side of the moon other than lighter side we can clearly see and appreciate.

[Admin]

btw Dan-
 
I hope this isn't off topic, but it may interest you to know there's a story upon a story on this little segment as well. How true is the cautionary label we read: "Warning! objects are closer than they appear!".
 
Not making accusations/allegations directed at any one, but rather citing things I know as they are that I cannot freely share.
 
It is of no coincidence that there's an unknown side of the moon other than lighter side we can clearly see and appreciate.

GQ,

Aside from piquing my curiosity, I certainly agree with you that things are not always what they seem. I am unsure of the specifics in the context of this topic, but expressed as a general rule, I concur with your premise. Having said that, I also recently wrote of the dangers I have discovered with trying to discern too much of the hidden from what is readily visible. Best, in my experience, to accept things at face value - challenge with sincere questions the matters that seem illogical - and assume the best of others until given compelling reason to stop. While I state this as my guide, I freely admit I fall short all too often.

FWIW

- Dan

[OlgaH]

    Holly toothless wonders!
 

 GQBlues, below is a link to the topic about socials with more photos on three pages on a women forum
 http://www.loversplanet.ru/forum/topic839.html
 
 I wish all men could read Russian. The girls who participated in the discussion used pretty hard words to describe what they saw: "disgusting, humiliating, repulsive, I want to wash myself after those photos, girls in the photos are obviously "professionals", I could not imagine such things even in my nightmares" and so on.

[Boethius]

I doubt the girl in purple is a professional, Olga.  Look at her body language.  Even without seeing her face, you can tell she is not happy to be there!
 
ETA - That, Dave, is what I was talking about.  I suspect she doesn't know how to extricate herself from that situation.  Were she older and didn't want that attention, the guy would be doubled over in pain.

[OlgaH]

Boethius, of course not all, and I also think some girls felt very uncomfortable.


 

[Boethius]

Why would anyone feel uncomfortable, with all those shining examples of gentlemen who easily look "decades younger" than their chronological ages?     They represent what every young girl dreams of when she envisions her future muzh.
I think I saw three (relatively) young guys in those photos.  Most of them looked to be the age of my father, and I'm middle aged!

[GoodOlBoy]

... I had a couple of times at events like this ....... For several tables sat quietly and calmly "working girl", administrator of the agency knew them well and they are terms for ... with whom and for how much they will go to your room.

CharmingLedy_spb
 
http://www.loversplanet.ru/forum/topic839-45.html 
 
GOB

[Boethius]

That's unfortunate for men who really are seeking a lifetime relationship, and for normal girls who may end up at such an  event.
 
 

[Rubicon]

 GQBlues, below is a link to the topic about socials with more photos on three pages on a women forum
 http://www.loversplanet.ru/forum/topic839.html
 
 I wish all men could read Russian. The girls who participated in the discussion used pretty hard words to describe what they saw: "disgusting, humiliating, repulsive, I want to wash myself after those photos, girls in the photos are obviously "professionals", I could not imagine such things even in my nightmares" and so on.

Google translate of comment by the OP:
I especially like her term "dozens of battered old aliens"

"Soshialsy" - is meeting at which there are several dozen men and a hundred or women. Usually such meetings are held by foreign agencies, and they send you a personal invitation, but it may happen that your local agency is a partner of a foreign agency, organized meetings, and if such an invitation, please contact them.
 
Typically, such events are held in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kiev, Odessa and very rarely in other cities. The event is an interesting, unusual, and if you are not ashamed to feel like a commodity on the shelf, then - go ahead and sing! At least that would be something to remember. Legislator arranging sex tours Elena Solomon manages to arranging such tours almost all cities of Ukraine.
 
 
 
this is such a meeting. which account for three hundred young girls and a dozen old, battered aliens. Sometimes the young arrive MCH, it is rare, because young and at home can easily find the girl. Same old ride for young flesh. Basically it is - sex tourists, who thus have fun, pereprobuyut dozens of girls who choose their younger and removed (or taken away) it vzamuzh. Sad ...ListenRead phoneticallyNew! Click the words above to view alternate translations. Dismiss

[Daveman]

hey now, I was peacefully sitting on the sidelines! 

I doubt the girl in purple is a professional, Olga.  Look at her body language.  Even without seeing her face, you can tell she is not happy to be there!
 
ETA - That, Dave, is what I was talking about.  I suspect she doesn't know how to extricate herself from that situation.  Were she older and didn't want that attention, the guy would be doubled over in pain.

I understand the point you are making there.  I think I had a prophetic vision of that scenario! 

...
What are the *real* chances of their safety being an issue?  Perhaps slightly more than dying in a plane crash?  Yeah, the guy(s) may be old, bald, fat, ugly, and be somewhat traumatic for the ladies to tolerate but I think the potential danger is far greater to his wallet than the ladies' safety.  No proof, just call it a hunch.  Since they are also more likely (IMO) to become inebriated, slip and hurt themselves on the dance floor - perhaps they should also be protected from that possibility by requiring them to wear motorcycle helmets to be protected from their own decisions.
...

IckySnicky?  yeah, queasyweasy?  it would appear to be thusly so, uncomfortable?  kinda looks that way, but she doesn't appear to be in imminent danger (unless her highly attuned gag reflex is overly stimulated beyond threshold of eye socket retention or the flash (heh) point of human combustion - which I concede could be well within the realm of possibility).


Sorry guys and gals, my ability to take the thread even remotely seriously is rather shot to hell.   

[Boethius]

How often have you been unwillingly groped by a stranger, Dave? 
I wasn't referring to dancing with some skeevy old guy. You assume she can just walk away, but not all women, particularly young women, are trained that way. 
 

[Rubicon]

from another Russian poster:
perhaps Boethius can help to decipher although I get the gist of it.

I vaguely know of one woman (as she often translating), which has its so-called informal state of emergency. A certain amount of eternal bride allegedly did not speak English and oooooochen want to learn it (this lady X, called her as translator) and also allegedly wanted to get a TRAVEL passport and visa. Called a certain amount for the entire "package Neveh and after treatment with another americana split between Lady X and the bride, I'm afraid to lie, but something like half.

So, this Lady X sends to such soshialzy as many young ladies to get their cushy clientele because there are really more nepoyuzannye and naive: lol:
Ie arena for business-not quite bad.
Did you really think that those young ladies in the photo they want, can not be over the hill? I'm sure they are level of income will be more than there: cool:
Everyone really understands what goes on soshialz. If the MCH is at least 50% adequate, he will not go there anymore, and then a view of our countries have all sorts of moral pokimonov-perverts me personally, absolutely do not care.
I єti illustrate cause laughter rather than disgust

[GQBlues]

 
 
Tough, tough crowd....
 
But listen, I'll be fair to Jack and say, IINM, that I believe those pics above are from socials other than his own.
 
The ones Jack conducted are attended by wife-seekers, that at least in MY opinion, seem to be suited for the attending femmes in terms of appearances.
 
You folks be the judge...
 
http://www.firstdream.com/tours/prev/photos.shtml
 
It isn't so much on who attends these socials that's irky to me, but the process of going through these experiences in the vein of seeking a wife.
 
 

[Daveman]

Wow, if one looks closely enough at the photo, it certainly DOES appear that her head is inflating to well beyond human skull tolerances!  I retract former comment.. it DOES seem she's in imminent danger!

How often have you been unwillingly groped by a stranger, Dave? 
I wasn't referring to dancing with some skeevy old guy. You assume she can just walk away, but not all women, particularly young women, are trained that way. 
 

I understand completely what you're getting at, I understand that..  I guess we just have different definitions of dangerous, maybe crossing the line, and he appears to be oblivious to the effect he's generating, but I just don't see the situation in that photo as dangerous --- yeah, that must be a woman thing unfathomable by my testosterone induced madness - and you're correct - I think she should give him a smack in the face with that massive head, WWF style,  but probably wasn't trained to take advantage of her innate defensive attributes, but that was also a singular moment in time which could have been the tolerant precursor to the shopping spree!


"Groping" also connotes something a little different in my mind.. they are dancing, holding hands, her purse is in the way for the normal hand on back position, so it's on her ass.  I mean, in a snap moment, a photo may or may not be a truly accurate "picture" of what's actually going on.


look, I'm not promoting unsolicited [sic] free [sicer] handed ass grabbing [sicest], open mouth goofy eyed salivating [really sic], OR even inflatable heads [okay not sic, just absurd]..  There are usually more than a few ways to view the same situation. 

[JohnDearGreen]

...Without that addition the add would look more natural as the thousands of similar adds "girls (or one night stand girls), apartments, clubs, and other fun things"

Ms.O, you have the totally wrong idea.  That uncomfortable fold-down thing in the living room is for the no-fun girls we wouldn't touch with the 10-foot pole (or vice versa).   (We can find better accommodations for the other ones).  We could send them back to the train station, but that's not our style.


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[GoodOlBoy]

.....and other fun things.

 
 

[GoodOlBoy]

You know, the really sad reality is that some poor bastard out there (and I really mean this Dan....no sarcasm) will open up one of these threads and see his beautiful wife that he brought here to the GoodOl' USA (or wherever) and think.........OMG!
 
 
GOB

[GoodOlBoy]

 
Tough, tough crowd....
 
But listen, I'll be fair to Jack and say, IINM, that I believe those pics above are from socials other than his own.

The ones Jack conducted are attended by wife-seekers, that at least in MY opinion, seem to be suited for the attending femmes in terms of appearances.
 
You folks be the judge...
 
http://www.firstdream.com/tours/prev/photos.shtml
 
It isn't so much on who attends these socials that's irky to me, but the process of going through these experiences in the vein of seeking a wife.

How do we know??

GQ are you honestly saying he's "different" or "better" ?? 
 
 
GOB

[Daveman]

re: other fun things...

maybe,  one armed one headed one-der in the blue shirt may be having a wee, wee bit of fun! (and perhaps he cried WEEEEEEEEE all the way home!)

[OlgaH]

Ms.O, you have the totally wrong idea.  That uncomfortable fold-down thing in the living room is for the no-fun girls we wouldn't touch with the 10-foot pole.   (We can find better accommodations for the other ones).  We could send them back to the train station, but that's not our style.

Mr. JDG, everyone has his/her idea of fun. For example some men find a great fun tucking the money into panties of 10-foot pole girls and some girls enjoy it. And some of them probably make a great married couples. So, what.

[GoodOlBoy]

One other point to ponder.
 
You bring one of these "ladies" home from a "social" or "tour" and have a child with her and eventually your son or daughter is surfing the internet.
 
Then you hear from their bedroom.........Is this you Mommy??.....What are you doing with that strange man??......That's not Daddy  ??

 
GOB