Any single, un-attached guy in Kiev May 27-30?

[Boethius]

Oh, and I am really telling tales out of school, but I never thought much of  Pasternak as a writer.  I have even less respect for him as a person, as he informed on relatives of my husband, then persuaded them to return from exile.  Immediately on their return, they were arrested and shortly thereafter, executed. 
 

[Rubicon]

Oh, and I am really telling tales out of school, but I never thought much of  Pasternak as a writer.  I have even less respect for him as a person, as he informed on relatives of my husband, then persuaded them to return from exile.  Immediately on their return, they were arrested and shortly thereafter, executed.

Filthy scumbag, may he rot in Hell!!

[Turboguy]

 I don't know about the FSU; however, I live in Tampa, the World Capital of Lap Dancing. 
 

It is sort of funny that you responded to that question.  When I was typing my response to that question last night I was thinking about your signature line and thinking that I had a feeling you understood what a lap dance was.
 
I haven't been in anyplace that you could find out for 15 years but of the few places I have been always would have rated East St. Louis the capital. 

[Turboguy]

I am not particularly interested in Jack or his business, Turbo, and you may be right in your views of Jack.  However, the first "cattle call" post in this thread doesn't particularly support the assertion that Jack is "picky" about who he takes.

Gosh Boethius, you know how to hit a guy where it hurts.  Jack wasn't very enthusiastic about taking me and pretty much did so because my son was coming along and I was going mostly for company.  Now I am so hurt I will have to go find some corner to mope in for a while. 

[BC]

Gosh Boethius, you know how to hit a guy where it hurts.  Jack wasn't very enthusiastic about taking me and pretty much did so because my son was coming along and I was going mostly for company.  Now I am so hurt I will have to go find some corner to mope in for a while.

TG,

I think Boethius referred 'cattle call' to Jack's open request for apartment space and not those men that signed up for his tour.  I guess the men who arranged for apartments with him were booked out or reserving the extra couch beds for other use.

[ML]

 I don't know about the FSU; however, I live in Tampa, the World Capital of Lap Dancing. 
 
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=125815&catid=8
 
The City of Tampa attempted to enforce an ordinance requiring 6 feet of separation.  The City lost.
 
The rules differ dependent upon whether the bar serves alcohol.  In clubs that serve alcohol, the woman must keep her breasts covered.  Some clubs cover only the nipples with clear medical tape, after first getting the nipples erect and hard (anyone want to apply for that job?).  No touching of breasts is allowed. 
 
In clubs that do not serve alcohol, complete nudity is allowed.  Touching is allowed but not the orifices.  The man must keep his clothing on, and Mr. Happy must stay inside the trousers.

After reading your comments and the newpaper article, I still don't understand why it is called 'lap dancing.'

It seems that even 'pole dancing' is generically referred to as 'lap dancing.'
Is the term just a catch all for any form of erotic dancing?

[Boethius]

TG,

I think Boethius referred 'cattle call' to Jack's open request for apartment space and not those men that signed up for his tour. 

Yes, specifically, the open request on this forum.

[Muzh]

 I don't know about the FSU; however, I live in Tampa, the World Capital of Lap Dancing. 
 
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=125815&catid=8
 
The City of Tampa attempted to enforce an ordinance requiring 6 feet of separation.  The City lost.
 
The rules differ dependent upon whether the bar serves alcohol.  In clubs that serve alcohol, the woman must keep her breasts covered.  Some clubs cover only the nipples with clear medical tape, after first getting the nipples erect and hard (anyone want to apply for that job?).  No touching of breasts is allowed. 
 
In clubs that do not serve alcohol, complete nudity is allowed.  Touching is allowed but not the orifices.  The man must keep his clothing on, and Mr. Happy must stay inside the trousers.

Does the Gaslight Lounge on US 19 still open?

[SANDRO43]

I must say the concept of 'lap dance' still eludes me. To me, that conjures up that the woman is actually in the man's lap. But I understand they are not in the man's lap and, in fact, I hear that actual touching may not be permitted. So I am still in the dark as to why it is called 'lap dance'. Anyone have the answer?

My own experience of US (Austin, Tx) 'lap dance' : http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=7895.msg142985#msg142985

[Muzh]

Boethius,

If I had a daughter I would have a problem with sleep knowing that my daughter is hanging out somewhere in the flats and night clubs with the absolutely strange men, looking for a husband among them, and most likely I would tell my daughter that there is more chances to meet a nut case or desperate man.
 
 

It is funny because I have said the same thing. I do have a daughter and although she is only 16, she would like to have a relationship that would make any sense. She is having trouble because boys her age feel threatened. In short, she is beautiful and smart. Toxic combination for boys. I keep telling her not to despair, if she hasn't found one guy is because he was not for her.
 

I don't think the men who have at least a little bit more than 50% of common sense would use such method looking for a potential life partner.
 

That would leave 50% of the others, no?

[SANDRO43]

After reading your comments and the newpaper article, I still don't understand why it is called 'lap dancing.'

It seems that even 'pole dancing' is generically referred to as 'lap dancing.'
Is the term just a catch all for any form of erotic dancing?

No, it's  specific :

An erotic dance that a female performs while straddling the lap of another person (typically male)...usually done by a female to a male, where she dances provocatively, rubbing her ass on his lap and such and is usually paid to do so

[Turboguy]

After reading your comments and the newpaper article, I still don't understand why it is called 'lap dancing.'

It seems that even 'pole dancing' is generically referred to as 'lap dancing.'
Is the term just a catch all for any form of erotic dancing?

It just goes to show you can learn anything on RWD.  We here goes to the best of my ability.   Way back I had a couple of sales people who dragged me into some of those places as I kicked and screamed in resistance.
 
There is some similarity between pole dancing and lap dancing.  Usually the dancers are dancing for everyone and sometimes use a pole as a prop (hence the pole dancing name) and sometimes they are dancing right in front of you with the hopes that you will slip something green inside her g-string or elastic garter if she has passed the point of wearing a g-string.
 
Lap dancing is more individual.  Usually they solicit it and the customer agrees to it.  It usually has a set fee but tips are encoraged.  Often they sit on your lap which elevates them a bit and you have a couple of things bouncing around in your face, she may lift up so you get a birds eye view of more of her body as she dances but the show is generally a few inches from your nose.  I even remember one who stood on her head in your lap with her feet going behind your head.  She had a rather nice smile but I can't say anything about her teeth since I didn't see them. 
 
Rules on touching very by local laws.  Some place you can't touch them but they can touch you and other places you can touch but not in certain spots. 
 
I should refer this to one of my competitors who has more experience than I do.  I was told he had spent $ 1300.00 on lap dances one night a few years ago. 
 
Some places that have these things are great and some are terrible.  The worst I ever saw was Charlotte NC.   If you go there bring a book.  We shot pool which was better than watching the girls.  If you go there however, tip generously.  The girls might look better if they could afford teeth.  Some teethless smiles can be quite attractive but with others it really doesn't help at all. 

[OlgaH]

That would leave 50% of the others, no?

Oh, I don't know about percentage of others, because what I said "men who have at least a little bit more than 50% of common sense" not "50% of men" 

Honestly, I doubt I would host two strange men in my apartment, take them to bowling, fine dining and night clubs buying them drinks and so on with a hope to find my life partner among them 

[Muzh]

Oh, I don't know about percentage of others, because what I said "men who have at least a little bit more than 50% of common sense" not "50% of men" 
 

Yes, I read it correctly.

Honestly, I doubt I would host two strange men in my apartment, take them to bowling, fine dining and night clubs buying them drinks and so on with a hope to find my life partner among them 

You would not but the other 50% would.

[Daveman]

Dave, I never stated the girl in the picture was in danger.

No, I see you didn't.  It seems our later exchange wasn't related to our earlier discussion of "safety".  So perhaps I didn't get the point you were driving at as well as I thought I did.  Maybe that's the male perspective at work.  Care to just spell it out for me? I'm obviously not connecting some dots somewhere.

[Rubicon]

After reading your comments and the newpaper article, I still don't understand why it is called 'lap dancing.'

It seems that even 'pole dancing' is generically referred to as 'lap dancing.'
Is the term just a catch all for any form of erotic dancing?

ManLooking,

Are you really this obtuse??  Geezsh!!

[Turboguy]

ManLooking,

Are you really this obtuse??  Geezsh!!

Perhaps we can take up a collection for ML so he can go out and experience a lap dance first hand and expand his knowledge.  Everyone needs a deep understanding of the world and its components.

[OlgaH]

Yes, I read it correctly.

So would you be so kind to tell me what percentage of men have more than 50% of common sense and what percentage of men have less than 50% of common sense? 

You would not but the other 50% would.

Why do you think 50%? Where did you get such starts? 

[Nat]

I didn't manage to read the whole 7 pages attentively, but I noticed that it started with Jack's hidden offer for a possible threesome and ended with the discussion of specifics of lap dancing. This board rocks! 

[Boethius]

Careful, Nat.  Jack has asserted all the women he selects are practically virginal, and the sharing of rooms is absolutely innocent.

Any other perspective may result in legal action to protect his sterling reputation.

[Rubicon]

Careful, Nat.  Jack has asserted all the women he selects are practically virginal, and the sharing of rooms is absolutely innocent.

Any other perspective may result in legal action to protect his sterling reputation.

 

[GQBlues]

....This board rocks!   

LOL.
 
YUP. If 50% of common sense had an apartment, which 2 women can use for 4 days and 3 nights while they attend one social, 2 bowling events, 4 parties, and received 6 VIP tickets from 98% of Jack's clientele...it'll all equate to getting a 30-minute lap dance from women of Bangladesh, and two passes for an 8-minute speed dating extravaganza in Moscow.
 
Which can all be read on GQ's June 2011 issue.
 
 

[Muzh]

So would you be so kind to tell me what percentage of men have more than 50% of common sense and what percentage of men have less than 50% of common sense? 

Why do you think 50%? Where did you get such starts? 

It's my way of saying some do and some don't.

[Maxx2]

This is one boring topic.

[BC]

This is one boring topic.

As they all are when they peter out.. (pun intended)