Cursing women

[Boethius]

popa for both, and popka for both, the latter is just a diminutive.  It's not really a long sound, the "o" would be somwhere between "pop" and "rope".

[Jumper]

ah thanks
 
I'd heard both,
but perhaps only circumstantially
one form seemed more often aimed at one gender or another!
 
 
 
you just have to love thread *drift*?
as they some times even inadvertantly drift back towards the topic---
 
 
would Popka be a swear word?
 
 
 
 
or would it  be a case of *how* it was used in both context and tone of voice?
 

[Gator]

There is a small city near me named Apopka.  Passing the sign made the young Russian kids laugh a ton.

[The Natural]

So if you want to be romantic and say something real nice to your girl, do you say:
 
"Babe, you have a real nice popka" or "Babe, you have a real nice popa"?

[mies]

Empty threats girls, because I've read that women aren't attracted visually like men are 
 
By the way, are popka Russian for ass? I need to learn more Russian words, hehe.

popka is russian for "butt",
ass in russian is "zhopa". And I advise you to forget this second word right away. Because the first time your woman hears you saying it will be the last time you hear of your russian woman 

In Ukraine you can use Yiddish "tuhes" if you absolut have to say "ass".
 

[mies]

The Natural..
 
popka for a woman..
(long o)
 
but i believe it's popa for a man's arse..
 
 
the RW can correct me..?
 

yes, you are wrong.
popa is a butt
popka is a small-sized or cute looking butt. In either gender of adults, or in children.

In RUssian if you add "-ka" or "-ko" or "-ik" ending to the nouns, it makes diminutive form of the word, as Boethius already explained.


for example:
zvezda (star) -> zvyozdochka (little star) Feminine
solnce (sun) -> solnyshko (darling sun) Neuter
uho (ear) -> ushko (cute/tiny ear) Neuter
rot (mouth) -> rotik (little/tiny mouth) Masculine
glaz (eye) -> glazik (tiny/cute eye) Masculine

[The Natural]

popka is russian for "butt",
ass in russian is "zhopa". And I advise you to forget this second word right away. Because the first time your woman hears you saying it will be the last time you hear of your russian woman 

I'm sure you're right about that mies, under ordinary circumstances. But there's an exception to every rule as they say.....

[mies]

yes, there are. If you accept being called casually "a jerk" with a smile on her face, and maybe occasionally being hit by light objects, you can call your woman's butt "zhopa" 


there is a subtle way in russian language to be offensive and yet do not say any cursing words. For example, you can say "a Woman with large W". This is a play with meanings:
in Russian when we want to say that someone is a distinguished and respectable individual, a real Human, we say "a Human with big H in the word."
The word "woman" in russian starts with zh - zhenschina. So the woman with big first letter - "Женщина с большой буквы Ж" is the woman with large hips, usually this reference is made in a derogatory way. The phrase can also be used figuratively, meaning that the woman is unpleasant person, no matter how wide or narrow her hips are.

[The Natural]

I took "zhopa" to be just vulgar, but my girl said it is also a word used for insults, which didn't cross my feeble mind. But she actually laughed when I said the word and she explained the meaning of the three words in question here. I think I will use "popka" from here on and let "zhopa" go in the memory hole. She agreed 

[Muzh]

Wrong answer Boethius.  Many of us North Americans have roots here which go back 300 years or more years.  If Nazi Germany had tried to invade the USA back in 1941 they would have gotten a far different welcome than they got in Ukraine.  The fact is that whether you like it or not the Russians and Ukrainians were completely unprepared for WWII and most ran.  That would not be the case in the USA.  Gun ownership is a proud part of our country and nobody would have been running away and burning crops and villages in the process like the Russians and Ukrainians did.

LMAO


I just saw this. Hey Rubicon, why don't you refresh your American history.


For your information, there was a huge Nazi following here in the US. A couple of names you may be familiar with: Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh. There were a few members in Congress who were also Nazi sympathizers. I believe there are still some remnants of the Nazis here.


You'd be surprise how effective the Nazi propaganda machine was and how far its tentacles extended.


I don't think the Germans would have had to bomb the US, we were waiting with open arms.

I am going to have to agree with Misha; you are simply romanticizing Ukraine. 

Who's romanticizing who.


LOL

[Muzh]

Cool! Could you please give me a link to a thread on this forum where women post photos of attractive guys they noticed on the streets, or photos of very young semi-naked boys in hotel rooms in "tempting"  poses, and discuss these men's "popka's," "boobs/ triceps/ eyes," and the length and curvature of legs. Thanks 

LOL Good one.

I am going to California in a few days, wait for my trip report, with photos of tan and toned, blond and tall, and ultra hot male surfers 

Oh baby, I believe a have a couple of pictures that you'd enjoy, except I was a redhead. Also, you probably were not even an embryo. LOL

[Muzh]

Your story about a girl going to Germany and then getting robbed upon returning to Ukraine shows how values are so completely different between Americans and Ukrainian/Russians.  No neighbors would be laughing about it.  They would be banding together to help her out and the males would be trying to find out who robbed her; and would be planning on getting the money back for her once they found out.  Americans do as a majority have true christian values.  We don't laugh at neighbors who get robbed or mistreated.

Isn't it amazing, huh? I know what you say is true. Now isn't it more amazing that these neighbors will rally around this victim and try to collect the money she was stolen,and most probably don't need it but, when it comes to a starving orphan the majority would say "not my tax money."


I know, I know it's not the same.

[mies]

Oh baby, I believe a have a couple of pictures that you'd enjoy, except I was a redhead. Also, you probably were not even an embryo. LOL

Please do share these photos!

[mies]

Talking about Nazis

Far-right Wrong: Neo Nazi mob abuses war vets in Ukraine

Olga, this is a fake story, completely engineered by ukrainian politicians to manipulate people and introduce again separatist mood between the East and the West.

The story went like this:
- http://frankensstein.livejournal.com/174659.html
 http://www.nr2.ru/forums/1514056.html
 
 one of organizers: http://narodna.pravda.com.ua/politics/49b8f924a70a0/ - according to some, a criminal authority in Odessa and a leader of political party "Motherland"

- red flags are now used seldom even in Russia

- in Ukraine, especially in western Ukraine, red flags are associated with political oppression, with occupation by Russia. If red flags aren't used for processions in RUssia, why should they be used in Ukraine?
 
 - in March-April 2011 Ukrainian president started preparing the law that red flags, exact copies of victory flags, should be installed on official/government buildings during 05/09/11 celebration (the law signed on May 20, 2011)
 - Constitutional Court issued a decision that such decree is anti-constitutional, and that red flags cannot be installed on official/government buildings during celebration (June 17th, 2011, however people in Ukraine know their Constitution, and even before the Court decision many people in the country knew the President was acting against Constitution)
 - three municipalities in the Western Ukraine (Lviv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk) issued a ban on use of red flags during the 05/09/11 celebration
 - several municipalities in the Eastern Ukraine (i.e. Lugansk, etc) allowed the use of red flags during official WWII celebration.
 
 - committee of "Motherland" party decided to eliminate "Bandera's cities in Ukraine" and to organize a march in Lviv with red flags during the victory day. Leader of the party (previously mentioned criminal authority and politician from Odessa, purchased 50 guns for his subordinates) http://job-sbu.org/v-odesse-markov-vooruzhil-svoih-zhurnalistov-pistoletami.html

The guy on the right is a "peaceful guest from Odessa" who came to Lviv "to eliminate ukrainian nationalists." (official statement of his party). 

- they also made huge red flag and traveled around eastern regions and Crimea, collecting signatures from veterans and other people. For example:

This particular signature means "let's attack and get Lviv" - a motto "let's attack and get" commonly used during war days in Soviet Army when it was trying to get the city occupied by German Nazis. 

- Someone (ukrainian nationalists claimed this weren't them) filled Lviv with highly provocative ads/appeals to "educate the guests" and "say no to occupants' march":
http://www.segodnya.ua/img/forall/a/142445/26.jpg
and other ads with symbol of swastika on red background.
 
- technically, the marching people should not have used the red flags because it was banned by local municipal administration.
- police should have provided better order.
- people who were "attacked" were not veterans.
- "guests/peaceful marchers" were with guns and aggressive. (see photo above). Does the guy in "Agent Smith"'s glasses look like a WWII veteran to you?

[mies]

nobody would have been running away and burning crops and villages in the process like the Russians and Ukrainians did.

Rubikon, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Please stop telling imaginary stories and offending my country and my people.

[mies]

I haven't felt the urge to kill in quite some time (outside of the midst of Canadian traffic anyway), but visions of machine guns danced through my head over that one.  That was actually nauseating to see.

don't be too gullible. You can read in my post what was going on in Lviv.
And you can also ask your wife to translate for you this story:
http://pics.livejournal.com/radulova/pic/000a7z0g
http://radulova.livejournal.com/1695600.html

A russian woman in her late 20s, worked as a journalist for some time in Russia, then went to work as a Russian teacher in University in China, married a chinese guy there, and had a child. She came with child to her native city St.Petersburg to do medical tests and visit her parents. While living there she was attacked verbally for being a "whore" and having a "half-blood child" and once was pushed in the back from the bus, with child on her arms. Her husband caught her and saved their baby's life. The bus-driver simply left, nothing bad happened to the attackers. 
She also has a blog, where she posted photo of her newborn. A 25 yo well-educated young russian male, with a top-management job, started an online mob attack and attracted to mobbing several of his rusisan neo-nazi friends. They have hacked all her online accounts, blog, e-mail, work e-mail, all her online profiles. Were sending her threats, calling with threats, deleted all her blog history, made all her accounts unaccessible, made a photo collage of a "Chinese soup" made out of newborn and added in this collage her child's photo, and sent a message with this photo to 30'000 internet users - all her e-mail contact lists, all her business partners, colleagues, friends, and subscribers of her blog, with awful photo and signature "a soup was tasty".  They were constantly threatening her health and life, and life of her child, whereas police was doing nothing. Her friends helped her to find attorneys and attorney advised her to leave the city and try not to leave apartment, or leave the country. Finally friends of the girl attracted media, and a large newspaper agreed to make a piece on her story. The newspaper helped her to take the matter to court. The initiator of the bullying was found, his name was reported, he was fired from his job, and started calling her pleading to drop her charges against him saying he "suffered enough." Whereas his friends continued threatening her in every possible way telling that a whore ruined the life of a real russian man. She fled the country. Her native country, and now lives in China.
None of the attackers was prosecuted. The initiator lost his job, but that was it. Nothing happened to them AT ALL.

Olga, and Daveman - what would you make of this story?
 

[Muzh]

Mies, I've been trying to stay out of this (L'vyv) incident here because I don't want give the wrong impression since, let's face it, it is not my country. My adopted country? Let's say since I set foot here 12 years ago.


But baby, that was an excellent analysis of the events in L'vyv. I belong to an Ukrainian forum where information is shared. I also have met (this visit) members of Maidan.org, KHRG and Reporters without Borders. Mies analysis is just the tip of the iceberg.

[GQBlues]

I will!! How did you know this is going to be Venice Beach? We plan to go to Ocean Beach first, and then indeed to Venice Beach to visit a friend. They live in the second row on Venice Beach, i plan to take pics from their balcony 

Welcome to California then mies! Have a great time....
However, allow me to caution you, blond/tall surfer will be as 'common' on Venice Beach boardwalk as 'spoken English' is in Miami. You'll need to trek at least a couple miles north of the Sta Monica pier, or go down southbay (Hermosa/Manhattan beaches - 3 miles south of Nairobi coast) to find those types of men. 
However, when in VB, visit the taste of 'Canal Club' and 'i Cugini's' Sunday brunch.

[mies]

Welcome to California then mies! Have a great time....
However, allow me to caution you, blond/tall surfer will be as 'common' on Venice Beach boardwalk as 'spoken English' is in Miami. You'll need to trek at least a couple miles north of the Sta Monica pier, or go down southbay (Hermosa/Manhattan beaches - 3 miles south of Nairobi coast) to find those types of men. 
However, when in VB, visit the taste of 'Canal Club' and 'i Cugini's' Sunday brunch.

Thank you for warm welcome, GQBlues. This will not be my first time in California. I traveled extensively there, and vacationed many times. So these men exist not only in my imagination, I actually saw them already, this time i am going to take photos. I might even take photos of myself together with them (oh, wait, i forgot, i'm married. But nevermind.  )

As for hot surfers - I agree, I have not seen many of them in Venice Beach. But i've seen quite many of people who stunned me, both males and females in Ocean Beach. I like staying in OB because it has the vibe that makes me feel.. well, at home.? I have a favorite cafe-shop there where I like to slowly enjoy my morning coffee, and a tiny mexican eatery where they make the best in the world seafood soup for about $5
I even took my mom there. She wasn't too excited about night life and hippies, but once she tried this soup.. and relaxed on the beach looking at passing by surfers and hispanic families with kids.... .... now she likes OB too! I've also seen some very attractive people with surfboards on San Francisco beaches, these people looked like business professionals enjoying their weekend.
I will check the surfing locations as per your advice too Thank you!
I am not a surfer, yet (although I recently started windsurfing). So I do not know which areas in California have highest surfers concentrations. We select places to visit in California based on other factors, predominantly visiting our friends, or going to fun places. Fit surfers is a nice "chef's special" addition to the menu.

[Rubicon]

LMAO


I just saw this. Hey Rubicon, why don't you refresh your American history.


For your information, there was a huge Nazi following here in the US. A couple of names you may be familiar with: Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh. There were a few members in Congress who were also Nazi sympathizers. I believe there are still some remnants of the Nazis here.


You'd be surprise how effective the Nazi propaganda machine was and how far its tentacles extended.


I don't think the Germans would have had to bomb the US, we were waiting with open arms.


Who's romanticizing who.


LOL

You don't need to refresh my American history Muzh, but thanks anyways.  You left off George Bush Sr's father Prescott Bush, who made a ton of money by having lucrative financial dealings with the Nazi's.  Still does not change the fact that the Germans declared war on the USA, and if after that point they had tried to invade they would have been repelled.

[Rubicon]

Rubikon, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Please stop telling imaginary stories and offending my country and my people.

It's not imaginary.  These were the initial actions and burning villages and crops before leaving were ordered by Stalin.  After regrouping and after getting sufficient war materials both from the Russian military industrial complex in the East and from US and UK in Murmansk obviously they did fight back and eventually won.

[Rubicon]

Cool! Could you please give me a link to a thread on this forum where women post photos of attractive guys they noticed on the streets, or photos of very young semi-naked boys in hotel rooms in "tempting"  poses, and discuss these men's "popka's," "boobs/ triceps/ eyes," and the length and curvature of legs. Thanks 


I am going to California in a few days, wait for my trip report, with photos of tan and toned, blond and tall, and ultra hot male surfers 

toned, blond and tall ultra hot male surfers.... who just may very well be from North Hollywood....

[Rubicon]

To be more correct

he signed a decree on setting the Presidential Commission of the Russian Federation to Counter Attempts to Falsify History to the Detriment of Russia's Interests.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Commission_of_the_Russian_Federation_to_Counter_Attempts_to_Falsify_History_to_the_Detriment_of_Russia%27s_Interests

and the Federal law "On Counteracting the Rehabilitation of Nazism, Nazi Criminals and Their Accomplices in New Independent States on the Territory of the Former USSR"

The Rehabilitation of Nazism is punishable by prison sentence

As I understand it there are a few problems with this law:

1.  Soviet historians were never encouraged or allowed to acknowledge US and UK efforts to help in the fight against Germany--specifically the tons of military equipment supplied to Soviet Russia through the port of Murmansk and other ways has never been properly acknowledged.  Initially Russian needed tanks and other munitions so these were supplied mostly by the USA.  For some reason Soviet Russia could not build decent trucks so tons of Studebakers and other trucks were supplied to Russian by USA.  Russian forces rode into Berlin on American trucks eating spam.

2.  Soviet historians were never allowed to tell the truth about how many Russian forces it took to defeat German forces in particular battles.  To do so would make the Russians look bad as it often took for example 400,000 Soviet forces or more to defeat 100,000 or less of German forces.  Reasons vary as to why but initially it was because the Germans were simply better trained and better equipped, whereas the Russians were newly conscripted into battle and had almost no training whatsoever. 

3.  Later in the war American and British pilots flew missions from airfields in Ukraine to support the Soviet effort. 

4.  The US and UK bombed Germany extensively during Germany's war in Russia, which crippled Germanys efforts to build armaments and diverted aircraft back to Germany away from the Russian front.  This very important assistance by the UK and USA was never acknowledged by Soviet propaganda historians.

5.  The US and UK attacked the Germans in the west, which diverted hundreds of thousands of troops and tanks etc away from the Russian front to try to defend France against invasion.  This enormous effort was never acknowledged by Soviet historians as being so incredibly important in allowing Russia to press forward against the Germans.

6.  USA had to also fight Japan in the far east at the same time, which diverted Japan away from planned attacks to the Russian far east, which allowed Stalin to move hundreds of thousands if not more troops away from the far east to the west to battle the Germans at Moscow and Stalingrad, etc.  This assistance by the USA was never acknowledged by Soviet historians.

As repayment for the enormous war effort from America to Russia during WWII, Stalin stabbed us in the back and supplied the North Koreans when we were fighting the Korean war.  Big surprise.

The fact is that Russian history of WWII was already extensively falsified.  Now Russian historians who finally want to tell the whole truth about everything that went on, can be threatened with this new law.  Needless to say journalists and historians in Russia have no incentives to really dig deep and tell the truth about things that really happened, not some glossed up fantasy version.

[Muzh]

You don't need to refresh my American history Muzh, but thanks anyways.  You left off George Bush Sr's father Prescott Bush, who made a ton of money by having lucrative financial dealings with the Nazi's.  Still does not change the fact that the Germans declared war on the USA, and if after that point they had tried to invade they would have been repelled.

I did mentioned members of Congress but I didn't want to mention any names, you know how it is.


The Germans made the mistake of declaring war on the US. THAT broke many American hearts.

[Rubicon]

Thank you for warm welcome, GQBlues. This will not be my first time in California. I traveled extensively there, and vacationed many times. So these men exist not only in my imagination, I actually saw them already, this time i am going to take photos. I might even take photos of myself together with them (oh, wait, i forgot, i'm married. But nevermind.  )

As for hot surfers - I agree, I have not seen many of them in Venice Beach. But i've seen quite many of people who stunned me, both males and females in Ocean Beach. I like staying in OB because it has the vibe that makes me feel.. well, at home.? I have a favorite cafe-shop there where I like to slowly enjoy my morning coffee, and a tiny mexican eatery where they make the best in the world seafood soup for about $5
I even took my mom there. She wasn't too excited about night life and hippies, but once she tried this soup.. and relaxed on the beach looking at passing by surfers and hispanic families with kids.... .... now she likes OB too! I've also seen some very attractive people with surfboards on San Francisco beaches, these people looked like business professionals enjoying their weekend.
I will check the surfing locations as per your advice too Thank you!
I am not a surfer, yet (although I recently started windsurfing). So I do not know which areas in California have highest surfers concentrations. We select places to visit in California based on other factors, predominantly visiting our friends, or going to fun places. Fit surfers is a nice "chef's special" addition to the menu.

Huntington Beach near the pier usually has some pro surfers this time of year, not to mention that HB is a really great place to visit with a lot of excellent restaurants and fun bars on the main street just east of the pier.

This blog has what many pro's consider to be the 10 best spots in So Cal:

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