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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2011, 08:40:01 AM »
People can write most anything they want out in the blogosphere.
The richest Ukrainians ..
http://www.kyivpost.com/news/business/bus_general/detail/61434/
The richest only ...[ :rolleyes: ] has $5B.
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2011, 08:43:35 AM »
Talks about "stolen billions" from Ukraine budget have been going since 2009.

Head of the Security Service of Ukraine: How Timoshenko stole the disputable gas
http://www.rosinvest.com/news/511616/

Ukraine Premier Minister Nikolai Azarov: Timoshenko has stolen 100 billions of grivnas from the 2009 Ukraine budget
http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2010/04/28/732446.html

State Duma member Vasili Gritsak: Timoshenko stole more than 107 billions of grivnas intended for EDAPS consortium
http://news.liga.net/news/N1000800.html

... Cases of use off shore shell companies and fake contracts for the sale of cars and drugs to the Ukrainian government at inflated prices, but also revealed the illegal use of 2.3 billion UAH that have been received from the sale of quotas under the Kyoto treaty.

In response, the Ukrainian government has sent complaints to the courts of the United States and Britain...
http://www.delfi.ua/news/daily/society/auditory-timoshenko-ukrala-23-mlrd-grn.d?id=1276833

Prosecutor general blames Tymoshenko government officials for fraudulent procurement of vaccines
As reported, on May 20, a court in the state of Oregon, the United States, has ruled that over $19 million spent illegally on vaccine at artificially high prices by the government led by former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is to be reimbursed to the Ukrainian national budget. On May 23, an appeals instance confirmed the court's ruling, having rejected demands by the defendant's legal representative.

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/105570/

Chairman of the Main Control and Revision Office of Ukraine Petro Andreyev: "lack of professionalism and criminals fraudulent actions by Timoshenko's government"
http://dnews.donetsk.ua/2011/01/20/5005.html


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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2011, 08:44:50 AM »
Sorry, not following.  Candidate for .  .  . ?

 
...Savior of the Motherland, of course.  8)
 
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2011, 08:51:00 AM »
Talks about "stolen billions" from Ukraine budget have been going since 2009.

Head of the Security Service of Ukraine: How Timoshenko stole the disputable gas
http://www.rosinvest.com/news/511616/

Ukraine Premier Minister Nikolai Azarov: Timoshenko has stolen 100 billions of grivnas from the 2009 Ukraine budget
http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2010/04/28/732446.html

State Duma member Vasili Gritsak: Timoshenko stole more than 107 billions of grivnas intended for EDAPS consortium
http://news.liga.net/news/N1000800.html

... Cases of use off shore shell companies and fake contracts for the sale of cars and drugs to the Ukrainian government at inflated prices, but also revealed the illegal use of 2.3 billion UAH that have been received from the sale of quotas under the Kyoto treaty.

In response, the Ukrainian government has sent complaints to the courts of the United States and Britain...
http://www.delfi.ua/news/daily/society/auditory-timoshenko-ukrala-23-mlrd-grn.d?id=1276833

Prosecutor general blames Tymoshenko government officials for fraudulent procurement of vaccines
As reported, on May 20, a court in the state of Oregon, the United States, has ruled that over $19 million spent illegally on vaccine at artificially high prices by the government led by former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is to be reimbursed to the Ukrainian national budget. On May 23, an appeals instance confirmed the court's ruling, having rejected demands by the defendant's legal representative.

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/105570/

Chairman of the Main Control and Revision Office of Ukraine Petro Andreyev: "lack of professionalism and criminals fraudulent actions by Timoshenko's government"
http://dnews.donetsk.ua/2011/01/20/5005.html

 
Why don't we go back in time a little further, like 1999? If you think that's too far, how about 2004?
 
 
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2011, 08:56:18 AM »

 
Why don't we go back in time a little further, like 1999? If you think that's too far, how about 2004?

Timoshenko was appointed acting Prime Minister of Ukraine in 2005.
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2011, 10:30:31 AM »

 
...Savior of the Motherland, of course.  8)
 
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http://obozrevatel.com/editor-column/yulina-zhizn-2.-roskosh-korolevyi.htm           
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2011, 10:39:13 AM »
Timoshenko was appointed acting Prime Minister of Ukraine in 2005.

Exactly my point.
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2011, 10:58:43 AM »

Exactly my point.

I'm sorry I missed your point. Would you be so kind to explain your point?

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2011, 11:03:02 AM »
And how would you do so since you read neither Russian nor Ukrainian, Jack?
       
 
Silly girl.  I suppose I would use the same sources I have used over the last decade Boethius.  I have many people who work for me, who live in Ukraine, a few are lawyers and translators.  I can usually have any articles I want or need translated within half an hour.     
 
As well some sites are also in English, such as this one  http://www.tymoshenko.ua/en     
 
 
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Anyway, if you go through the articles in the links below, you will indeed find many references to Tymoshenko's illegal activities, including theft of gas, manipulation of the sugar market, and distribution of hundreds of millions to cronies, going all the way back to the mid 1990's, when she and her husband first began stealing gas (facilitated via United Energy Systems).  This is nothing new, it's been reported in Ukraine's press for over a decade.  The current trial is the third trial I can think of. 

 As I posted, she is wily enough to never sign a document, something she learned after turning over Lazarenko.

http://korrespondent.net/search?q=%DE%EB%E8%FF+%D2%E8%EC%EE%F8%E5%ED%EA%EE&w=news
   
 
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Boethius, I have looked at, read, had translated, all the links on the first page from the link you sent above.   They read as follow,.......           
 
 
The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine is still waiting for permission Pechersk district court of Kyiv to visit the U.S. diplomatic ex-premier Yulia Tymoshenko in jail.

As described in the embassy of the intention to visit Timoshenko in jail was declared on August 6.

The statement the embassy to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, that directs the request to the Pechersk court.

"Until now, no news we do not have" - told the U.S. Embassy.

We recall the U.S. government is concerned about developments around Tymoshenko intends to continue to closely monitor the trial of her case.
 
******************************************************************************8   Can you talk about a remake of the Moscow trial in Kiev? On August 5, former Prime Minister and Orange Revolution leader Yulia Tymoshenko is sitting in detention cell - writes Arnaud Kastene in the French edition Atlantico.


Against her were charged with abuse of office, which she could face 7 to 10 years in prison. Is this process just a reflection of domestic politics or all of the same concerns of gas contracts, which generously spiced mafia interests?

From the outset of the June 24 Yulia Tymoshenko accused the current president Viktor Yanukovich that he rigged it to eliminate it as a political opponent.

So what's opposition leader accused of? The Court considers that it has entered into "disadvantageous" to the Ukrainian state gas agreements with neighboring Russia in 2009. The accusation sounds like "abuse of power", which causes a smile in a country where, after the election to the highest office of Viktor Yanukovych February 25, 2010 political processes began to appear like mushrooms after rain.

The accusation sounds like "abuse of power", which causes a smile in a country where, after the election to the highest office of Viktor Yanukovych February 25, 2010 political processes began to appear like mushrooms after rain.
Of course, Yulia Tymoshenko is not a saint. His career "gas princess" began in the energy sector, particularly in the Ukrainian petrol Corporation, where she amassed a fortune in a rather vague terms.

However, since the beginning of his political career, first in 1999-2001, when she served as Minister of Fuel and Energy in the government of Viktor Yushchenko, she acted against local oligarchs, and then began to muse the pro-Western Orange Revolution in 2004.

Now let's go back to 2009 and try to find a trace of "unprofitable" gas contracts that are signed then-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. Two-month field of the gas crisis in relations between Moscow and Kiev, and Tymoshenko Prime Minister Vladimir Putin signed an agreement to restore the supply of natural gas to Ukraine and Europe. Of agreements between Russian Gazprom and Ukrainian Naftogaz that Kiev has a 20 percent discount on gas in 2009, while in 2010 prices should be brought into line with European rates. In addition, Putin and Tymoshenko expressed a willingness to abandon the services of intermediaries, that is, first and foremost on RUE.

His career "gas princess" began in the energy sector, particularly in the Ukrainian petrol Corporation, where she amassed a fortune in a rather vague terms.
This is a company registered in Switzerland, acted as an intermediary between producers of gas, such as Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Russia, and Central and Eastern Europe, particularly Ukraine. Although everyone is well aware that it is up to 50% is a "daughter" of Gazprom, the other half is in the hands of the holding Centragas representing the interests of a number of Ukrainian shareholders, the names of certain parts which are kept secret. Among them are worth special mention Dmitry Firtash, vice president of RosUkrEnergo, a deputy from the Party of Regions Viktor Yanukovych and human environment of the well-known crime boss Semyon Mogilevich.

Despite the lack of transparency, a company which was established in July 2004 as agreed by Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart Leonid Kuchma, was engaged from 2006 to January 2009, transit of Russian and Turkmen gas via Ukraine to Europe.

In 2006, the BBC Yulia Tymoshenko has criticized ties RosUkrEnergo and Mogilevich by Dmitry Firtash.

Among them are worth special mention Dmitry Firtash, vice president of RosUkrEnergo, a deputy from the Party of Regions Viktor Yanukovych and human environment of the well-known crime boss Semyon Mogilevich.
In 2010, Wikileaks published American diplomatic correspondence gave the confirmation charges of Yulia Tymoshenko. The note, which was an American diplomat in Vienna, Scott F. Kilner (Scott F. Kilner), were presented to senior leadership of Austrian bank Raiffeisen, which catered for gas deals in Russia and Ukraine in 2006. Employees Raiffeisen, as U.S. diplomats have accused RosUkrEnergo that it is controlled by Mogilevich. In particular, the Austrian bank outlined two major recipients of financial manna RUE: Dmitry Firtash and Ivan Fursin, who was later appointed head of the administration of President Yanukovych.

With this in mind, it becomes clear that actually lies behind the process of Tymoshenko. Refusing to 2009 RUE in mediation in the gas sector, the former prime minister thus cut off cash flow, which fed a Russian mafioso Semion Mogilevich and the Party of Regions Viktor Yanukovych after Dmitry Firtash and Ivan Fursin. Thus, the threat to the current government is quite obvious. Besides leading the case prosecutor, who after his appointment to the post in November 2010, has publicly stated that his main task - to serve as president of the country, and judges have repeatedly received the congratulations of Viktor Yanukovych.

Refusing to 2009 RUE in mediation in the gas sector, the former prime minister thus cut off cash flow, which fed a Russian mafioso Semion Mogilevich and the Party of Regions Viktor Yanukovych after Dmitry Firtash and Ivan Fursin
Europe did not take in vain the matter seriously. After all, the process is determined not only the political and democratic future for its neighboring countries, but also the key energy issues of energy supply (Ukraine is one of the main transit countries for Russian gas to the EU), as well as no less important criminal problems (Semyon Mogilevich is not the first year is wanted FBI). Diplomatic censure, in this case would not be enough, so you need not waste time, go to the sanctions.

Original publication: Derrière le procès Timochenko, une forte odeur de gaz

 
 
*******************************************************************************************   Hero of Ukraine, Hero of Labor, Honored miner, an honorary citizen of Lugano and the city of Sverdlovsk, Vladimir Murzenko, Hero of Ukraine, Hero of Socialist Labor, the holder of the sign of Miner's Glory of three classes, Honorary Miner of Ukraine Mykola Skrypnik and Hero of Ukraine, Viktor Bondarev asked to release the former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko from arrest under their personal guarantee.

According to the press service of the Lugansk regional branch of the Motherland Party in, referred to a statement signed by the three heroes of Ukraine.

"We believe that the arrest of a well-known political figure, heads an opposition party and former prime minister of Ukraine is unreasonable and unacceptable for any democratic and lawful society. Deprivation will Motherland leader in a political reprisal current government over the opposition, which violates the rule of law, eliminates principles of fairness and independence of justice in our country, "- they wrote.

Murzenko, Skrypnik and Cooper also said: "We do not want democracy in Ukraine rather than an authoritarian regime predominated. This is unacceptable."

Turning to the district court judge Caves Rodion Kireev, they are asking to change the preventive measure for Tymoshenko and pass it to their personal security.

As reported yesterday, the court again refused to change the preventive punishment for Tymoshenko to arrest bail-known Ukrainian leaders, clergy, people's deputies.   
 
 
***************************************************************************************************************************8     Motherland Party commented on the statement by the Deputy Prosecutor General Renat Kuzmin Ukraine about Yulia Tymoshenko's alleged involvement in the murder of People's Deputy Eugene Scherban, describing them as symptoms of schizophrenia.

"Statements by Renate Kuzmin about alleged involvement in the murder of Julia Timoshenko Eugene Scherban show that in an attempt to curry favor with his office staff Yanukovych godmother fell in schizophrenia," - tales party statement.

Tymoshenko called party fellows statement Kuzmin absurd.

"Motherland warned of this scenario. Anticipating future plans of Ukrainian decent student Andrew Yanuarevicha Wyszynski, declare that the Yulia Tymoshenko did not kill Sergei Kirov, not poisoned by Maxim Gorky and was preparing an attempt on Stalin.

As reported, today, Aug. 12, First Deputy Prosecutor General Renat Kuzmin said the U.S. Attorney's office has the testimony of a witness in the trial of former Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko payment murder Verkhovna Rada deputy Yevgeny Shcherban at the expense of Lazarenko and current party leader Yulia Tymoshenko's Motherland.

Korrespondent.net 
 
 
************************************************************************************************************************8   First Deputy Prosecutor General Renat Kuzmin said the U.S. Attorney's office has the testimony of a witness in the trial of former Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko payment murder Verkhovna Rada deputy Yevgeny Shcherban at the expense of Lazarenko and current party leader Yulia Tymoshenko's Motherland.

He said this in an interview with Focus.

"U.S. prosecutors interrogated the witness in the case of Lazarenko said bluntly that the killer for killing Scherban received money from the accounts of Lazarenko and Tymoshenko. The witness recalls a conversation with a customer who said," Julia will pay, "referring to pay for the killing," - said Kuzmin.

Video provided by channel 24
 
 
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or who fertilizes our heads?? Fed's already shitty situation of their country! With its shitty laws, shitty shitty president and bureaucrats. Shitty shitty Court and the election. This shit climbs everywhere, zasiraya brain and soul of our citizens. One is not clear what the shit are fed, that on contact with ordinary Ukrainians, the latter becomes more sluggish, indecisive and unable to defend their interests. Can we have the blood of some special and leads to absurd chemical reaction with fecal matter, so abundantly watered our heads?

 Have fun watching old woman at the entrance to a righteous anger in his eyes and clenched fists trying to bleach his conscience. "Oh, it's so-rassyakoy! Useless president to lead the country? What will happen, what will happen ?..."
 - Grandma, I recall, you just Yakunovicha for something of his own and voted - with a sneer vstryayu in conversation ...
 - Yes, you are what you say, my daughter! Yeah me to, so for this bastard? But never again ... - Osekaetsya on polufraze woman Anya and silent, with downcast eyes, poking his stick a dead beetle starushachey the bench. Others prefer to keep silent old men in such a delicate situation, for anyone not like them to know who to vote for our entrance.

 No. There are certainly cases, throwing a small ray of light on the toilet. From looking at the bewildered fans Dynamo - Ultras, chanting, "Thank you for the inhabitants of the Donbas President" rastakogo. "What a feeling of unreality never lost my inner peace. As if not in our country this is happening. It's something like a kick in the trial towards defending us their freedom. Just finished uploading this kick slogans on the phone as a ringtone and giggling like a fist of people riding with you in a minibus near the moment when you call.

Yulia Tymoshenko can three hundred times, and blame. But you can not take away the human right to reasonable protection, the right time to familiarize yourself with these huge volumes of business ... It's so not done in a normal European country. Ostentatious boorish attitude of the court in the defendant - that's our goal, "sudochinstva." Humiliate, insult ... and behind bars.

The dictatorship in the country grows. And all are silent ... Interestingly, when I had dressed in embroidered herself and her children and spoke the language of the country in which I live, some passers-by rather narrow-minded our Zaporozhye threw after me: "Generation of Hitler's Nazi ... family ..." I've always wondered about this. Our fellow citizens from the Soviet times in the head of mixed terms such as "nationalist," "patriot," "Nazi," "fascist," "Hitlerite" ... And he created a kind of folk mix that combines these concepts and not separating them. Only now, for some reason I did not hear such comments in his address. It can be seen slowly pick up through a layer of shit on the ears signals from space, according to who in our country, "Hitlerite" and "fascist."

Finally as an example the famous words of many a Protestant pastor and theologian in Germany during the Second World Martin Niemöller. He openly condemned the actions of Nazis and once said in a sermon: "The more we can not remain silent, commanded the man, when God commands us to speak. We must obey God rather than men! "After that, he was accused of" hidden attacks "and was sentenced to seven months imprisonment. Hitler did not like so "loyal" punishment and he said then that the preacher "should sit up until he turns blue do not," and threatened with punishment to judges in the event of failure of the order ...

Striking in its depth and simplicity of the poem Niemöller "When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent, I'm not a communist. Then they came for the socialists, I was silent, but I was not a social democrat. Then they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak, I'm not a union member. Then they came for the Jews, I remained silent, but I was not a Jew. When they came for me, was no longer anyone who could protest. "

Does not that something or someone to remind you of? After all, tomorrow or in place Tymoshenko German pastor can be any of us. After all, as long as we remain silent, and we will be a flock of sheep, meekly going to slaughter. We will feed a couple of intellectual abilities disadvantaged herders and some savage dogs. After all, if a lamb escapes into the woods - it do not shine - it zagryzut wolves. So, if you bleat - the herd, if run - so together ...
 
 
*********************************************************************************8   The newly appointed commissioner of the President of Ukraine for Children's Rights Yuriy Pavlenko said that at the time of testimony in the Pechersk District Court to process the gas deluprotiv ex-premier Yulia Tymoshenko did not know about his appointment to this position.

He said this today, August 12, during a briefing in Kiev

"At the time of giving evidence in court, I do not know about the appointment. We met with the president on Monday in the Crimea, and he proposed the creation of this institution," - said Pavlenko.

  Yuriy Pavlenko was appointed President of the authorized Children's Rights
Pavlenko stressed that the scope is for him, first of all, his professional work, and in this there is no appointment policy. According to him, the president did not set any requirements on them change their party affiliation. As is known, Y. Pavlenko member of the party "Our Ukraine".

As reported, Yanukovych has appointed Yuriy Pavlenko authorized the President of the Rights of the Child on August 11, 2011.

August 4 ex-Minister of Family, Youth and Sports Yuriy Pavlenko, testified in the Pechersk District Court of Kiev in the case against Tymoshenko.

At trial, he stated that members of the Cabinet did not give full information on gas talks with Russia
 
 
***************************************************************************8     Committee of resistance to dictatorship, created recently by opposition parties and civil society organizations, filed an application for a general mass rallies in Independence Day, August 24.

"We have signed another petition in the Pechersk court of the capital to release the Yulia Tymoshenko from behind bars, as well as general filed an application for mass rallies on Independence Day. August 24 the opposition will stand together to show people that the violation of European standards and human rights totally unacceptable, "- said the leader of Citizenship Anatoly Gritsenko on radio music.

He said that the August 9 meeting of the Committee was held at which representatives of 10 parties have decided that stop criticizing each other in the press and act together as a united front, forming a common position.

According to Gritsenko, during the campaign, the opposition will point to the threat of an independent democratic state of Ukraine.

The next steps, according to the policy should be to coordinate activities around the new law on parliamentary elections, as well as joint efforts during the parliamentary elections.

"We can not allow our country instead of integration in the EU integrated in Donetsk region. This is unacceptable" - said the leader of the civil position.

As reported, August 8 statement on the establishment of the Committee of resistance to dictatorship leaders signed the European Party of Ukraine, Party of Motherland Defenders, People's Self Defence party, Motherland, Reforms and Order, Citizenship, National Ukraine, Our Ukraine, People's Movement of Ukraine and the Front zmіn.
 
 
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... Or "Why I calmly ate ice cream on Khreschatyk, when the convoy was taking Timoshenko" Alexander Turchinov ally Yulia Tymoshenko, Baptist pastor and author of the book weird "Illusion of Fear," allowed himself to blame for cowardice, a lot of Kiev, caught August 5, 2011 on Khreschatyk in the Crypt of the court. Here is a verbatim quotation from an interview with Mr Turchinov, published in the "Ukrainian Truth":

"I'll describe this picture, and you will understand what it is. On the day of his arrest, when a fight broke out during an attempt to bring Julia Vladimirovna of the courthouse, where some five hundred people here fought with the "Berkut". But even more people standing on the side of Khreshchatyk, ate ice cream and taking pictures! Perhaps one of them sympathized with us. But the majority was not prepared to act, afraid and watched: I wonder what it will end. So, here are friends, not interested!
This is scary! "

So, Alexander V., hope you do not mind if I answer you on behalf of those who "stood on the side Khreschatik, ate ice cream and feared?"


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Ukraine suddenly began increasing purchases of gas from Russia, the statistics show CDU TEK.

Since the beginning of August Ukraine bought an average of 60 million cubic meters of gas per day, and from 8 August, the significant increase in imports - up to 89 million cubic meters, August 10 purchases totaled 97.3 million cubic meters of gas per day.

Ukraine has considerably increased gas purchases in June - the average imports amounted to 128 million cubic meters of gas delivery in July fell to 56.7 million cubic meters of gas per day and fluctuated around this figure, the whole of July.

Then Naftogaz explained accelerated purchases of natural gas in the first half of the expected increase in prices in the second: in the first quarter purchase price was about $ 264 for 1 thousand cubic meters in the second quarter - $ 297, then in the third quarter, it grew approximately up to $ 356, while the fourth quarter could reach $ 400. This increase is due to the pricing formula tied to the cost of fuel and gas oil in world markets over the past 9 months.

As of the beginning of July, Ukraine has chosen nearly three-quarters of the annual volume of purchases planned - 29 billion cubic meters in terms of 40 billion cubic meters of gas.

Currently, Ukraine is in talks with Russia on possible reduction of prices for natural gas. Last Wednesday held talks between the two countries - Dmitry Medvedev, Viktor Yanukovych. No official information on the outcome of the negotiations did not hear - a meeting was held behind closed doors.

On the eve of Yanukovych declared the possibility of a lawsuit about the legitimacy of agreements between Gazprom and Naftogaz of Ukraine on gas supplies and transit, concluded in 2009, former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, who prosecutors accuse of Ukraine in the abuse of power under a contract to supply Russian gas in 2009. Recently, it was decided to conclude Tymoshenko custody.

According to the gas contracts between Russian and Ukrainian gas monopoly, signed in January 2009, Naftogaz in 2010, planned to buy 52 billion cubic meters of natural gas. In the case of acquisition of less than 80% of this amount of NAC must still pay for 80% of the contracted amount ("take or pay", or take or pay).

The contract provides for the reduction of the contractual agreement between the parties of gas purchases by up to 20% (ie, to 41.6 billion cubic meters), with the agreement should be concluded before July 1 preceding the year of purchase. Given the conditions of "take or pay" the minimum amount of purchases in this case is 33.3 billion cubic meters.
 
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Boethius, the main things I have taken from above are,.....     
 
 
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Thus, the threat to the current government is quite obvious. Besides leading the case prosecutor, who after his appointment to the post in November 2010, has publicly stated that his main task - to serve as president of the country, and judges have repeatedly received the congratulations of Viktor Yanukovych.

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"We believe that the arrest of a well-known political figure, heads an opposition party and former prime minister of Ukraine is unreasonable and unacceptable for any democratic and lawful society. Deprivation will Motherland leader in a political reprisal current government over the opposition, which violates the rule of law, eliminates principles of fairness and independence of justice in our country, "- they wrote.
 Hero of Ukraine, Hero of Labor, Honored miner, an honorary citizen of Lugano and the city of Sverdlovsk, Vladimir Murzenko, Hero of Ukraine, Hero of Socialist Labor, the holder of the sign of Miner's Glory of three classes, Honorary Miner of Ukraine Mykola Skrypnik and Hero of Ukraine, Viktor Bondarev asked to release the former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko from arrest under their personal guarantee.   

 
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Yulia Tymoshenko can three hundred times, and blame. But you can not take away the human right to reasonable protection, the right time to familiarize yourself with these huge volumes of business ... It's so not done in a normal European country. Ostentatious boorish attitude of the court in the defendant - that's our goal, "sudochinstva." Humiliate, insult ... and behind bars.

The dictatorship in the country grows. And all are silent ... Interestingly, when I had dressed in embroidered herself and her children and spoke the language of the country in which I live, some passers-by rather narrow-minded our Zaporozhye threw after me: "Generation of Hitler's Nazi ...     

 
 
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As reported, August 8 statement on the establishment of the Committee of resistance to dictatorship leaders signed the European Party of Ukraine, Party of Motherland Defenders, People's Self Defence party, Motherland, Reforms and Order, Citizenship, National Ukraine, Our Ukraine, People's Movement of Ukraine and the Front zmіn.  "We can not allow our country instead of integration in the EU integrated in Donetsk region. This is unacceptable" - said the leader of the civil position.
 
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The U.S. Embassy in Ukraine is still waiting for permission Pechersk district court of Kyiv to visit the U.S. diplomatic ex-premier Yulia Tymoshenko in jail.

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Where Boethius is any solid, verifiable reports to back your claims she stole billions.  Please, claims from reliable sources, not Yanukovich puppets.     
 
Yanukovich.  An individual who was found guilty of raping a young girl.   And what did he say when this was brought up during the election?   "We all do stupid things when we are young".    No, we do not all rape young girls when we are young.   
 
Yanukovich.  An individual who was found guilty of assault and sent to prison.   Only in Ukraine, maybe Russia, could such a person get elected to run a country.     Putin's puppet, Yanukovich.   
 
Oh Putin could not stand the thought of losing the lease on his submarine base in Sevastopol, a real possibility if someone leaning towards the west was elected President.  So Putin sends his friend Yanukovich 600 million dollars, a lot of this went to thugs, to intimidate people to vote Yanukovich, to rig the election.  And what a surprise, in the first election, in 2004, good ole Yanukovich just squeaked by Yushchenko.    The people of Ukraine knew this was an attempt to steal the election, and it almost worked had the people of Ukraine not protested, something I think we will see in the near future with Yanocrookvich's attempt to eliminate his top rival in the upcoming Presidential campaign.
 
 
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2011, 11:08:14 AM »
Talks about "stolen billions" from Ukraine budget have been going since 2009.
   
 
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Head of the Security Service of Ukraine: How Timoshenko stole the disputable gas
http://www.rosinvest.com/news/511616/

 Security Service of Ukraine has opened a criminal investigation into the officers to seize "Naftogaz Ukrainy" 6.3 billion cubic meters. m of gas transit on the basis of appeals to the company, "RUE", as well as some of the deputies. This was the first deputy chairman of the Security Service Khoroshkovskiy in an interview with the "Ukrainian Truth".

"The treatment we received a number of deputies, there is also a statement," RUE ", a gas that belongs to them and is in the territory of Ukraine in the mode of transit, trying to assign or stolen. Given the evidence was filed," - said Inter. When asked what this was committed by customs officers, if it resulted in a criminal case, a representative of the Security Service said: "Having written customs declaration, they actually legalized stolen. This happened at night on Friday, after hours, on the gas, which the Cabinet Ministers said their property, and the company "RUE" - his own. In carrying out customs clearance basis of the customs service was disconnected from electricity, because the SBU sees this database online. Customs officers who conducted these operations, did a lot of errors in filling out the customs declaration. They may constitute a violation or as a service, or as a service crime. "

Inter also noted that the "y" Naftogaz "is not enough money to complete customs clearance." "And they are customs cleared half - not 11 billion and 6.3 billion cubic meters. What happened to the rest of the gas - is unclear. It is that - vanished? He did not even transit, but does not yet have the status of the imported. The customs declaration is a reference to number of contracts. To find out what kind of contracts, and was seizure of documents ", - said the representative of the SBU.     Customs officers who conducted these operations, did a lot of errors in filling out the customs declaration. They may constitute a violation or as a service, or as a service crime. "   "And they are customs cleared half - not 11 billion and 6.3 billion cubic meters. What happened to the rest of the gas - is unclear. It is that - vanished?     
 
 
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Ukraine Premier Minister Nikolai Azarov: Timoshenko has stolen 100 billions of grivnas from the 2009 Ukraine budget
http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2010/04/28/732446.html

  KIEV, April 28. Former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko must be held criminally responsible for the theft of 100 billion UAH from the budget of 2009. On this, as the correspondent of "Rosbalt" with confidence, said Prime Minister Mykola Azarov at a meeting of the Cabinet.


"In general, the action of the previous government caused the state losses of 100 billion USD. And the materials on the implementation of the 2009 budget should be seen not only deputies, but above all law enforcement agencies. The former prime minister and the officials should be held criminally responsible for it "- said the prime minister.


Azarov noted that yesterday's actions of the opposition in parliament, when the "smokescreen filled session hall," were caused by an attempt "to avoid criminal responsibility." "This is the end of their political and criminal career," - said the prime minister.


Also, Azarov said that today's meeting of the Cabinet discusses the implementation of the 2009 budget. In particular, he said, Tymoshenko's government has used budget funds to buy 'soon', in which it is impossible to transport patients inappropriately used the funds to run a series of budget programs.


As reported, the Prosecutor General of Ukraine (GPU) has opened more than 30 cases concerning embezzlement of budget funds by the Cabinet of former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.


Previously questioned the legality of the GPU to increase the authorized capital of "Naftogaz Ukraine" of 12 billion USD. This is an additional issue of February 23 last year launched a cabinet of Yulia Tymoshenko. Increase in share capital then allowed to "Naftogaz" to pay on time with "Gazprom" for Russian gas. To testify in this case to the prosecutor were invited ex-Energy Minister Yuri Prodan, his former deputy, Oleg Bugaev, former acting Minister of Finance Igor Umansky, as well as a former head of "Naftogaz Ukraine" Oleg Dubina.   
 
 
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State Duma member Vasili Gritsak: Timoshenko stole more than 107 billions of grivnas intended for EDAPS consortium
http://news.liga.net/news/N1000800.html

  MP from the Party of Regions Vasyl Hrycak (pictured) said that Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has stolen more than 107 mln. Intended for the consortium EDAPS. This he told reporters at a news conference.

Answering the question of LigaBusinessInform, V. Hrycak said that the consortium EDAPS filed suit in the Economic Court of Kiev on what the State Treasury did not pay now for the production of passports, driving licenses and other documents in the amount of 107 million 579 thousand 882 UAH. "All actions taken are recorded and will be considered," - said the deputy and said that the action taken January 5, 2010.

Earlier by Hrycak recalled that the consortium EDAPS stopped production of all documents of strict accountability due to the fact that the Ukrainian government did not pay for the obligations of EDAPS for production of documents.

B. Hrycak noted that since 30 November 2009 on account of the enterprise have not received a penny. He denied that any commitments of the Government on this issue and no contract exists.

According to V. Hrycak, in November-December 2009, the consortium produced 71 thousand 394 foreign passports of $ 10 million 709 thousand 100 UAH., Driver's licenses were made at $ 9 million 831 thousand 746 UAH., Evidence of Registration of vehicles - 18 million 474 thousand UAH., other forms for the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the amount of 68 million 564 thousand 590 UAH.

"Total amount - 107 579 000 882 hryvnia. I can tell you that Tymoshenko money stolen. With her stolen Turchinov (First Deputy Prime Minister - Ed.) Slyuzov and (head of the State Treasury Tatiana Slyuzov - Ed.)" - he said. B. Hrycak said that the money had been paid by Ukrainian citizens to the government as government fees and other obligatory payments in obtaining the documents. "Tymoshenko had stolen the money and sent to other programs. It is a crime. Crimes committed today, Tymoshenko, Turchynov Slyuzov. I think that sooner or later they will answer," - he said.

B. Hrycak also speculated on what goals could be sent the funds. "Where the money went? I think that the money went to buy cheap Chinese buses, the purchase of apartments, which now distributes Yulia Tymoshenko ... on those handouts that are distributed with each visit in each area. Well, Of course, I do think that some of these funds went to the celebration or to celebrate the New Year at the Independence Square in Kyiv, "- he said.

We recall today, on January 12, Alexander Turchinov said that the conflict between the government and the concern caused by the desire to EDAPS group to get an order for next year and gain a foothold in the market as "sensational" statement EDAPS are without any basis.

January 4 consortium EDAPS said that he was forced to stop work due to the termination of funding. The board noted that the work is stopped not because of the presence of some internal problems, but because of stealing money from the state treasury senior officials from the Cabinet, in particular, A. Turchynov.     
 
 
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In response, the Ukrainian government has sent complaints to the courts of the United States and Britain...

http://www.delfi.ua/news/daily/society/auditory-timoshenko-ukrala-23-mlrd-grn.d?id=1276833     
 
Auditors inspect the activities of the government of Yulia Tymoshenko, revealed evidence of fraud and misuse of public funds during the 2008-2010 year. This was reported by representatives of firms relying "Trout Cacheris".
The audit found that officials have used those funds to cover up deficits in the pension system before the presidential election.

Cases were identified using offshore shell companies and fake contracts for the sale of cars and drugs to the Ukrainian government at inflated prices, but also revealed the illegal use of 2.3 billion UAH. That have been received from the sale of quotas under the Kyoto treaty.

In response, the Ukrainian government has sent complaints to the courts of the United States and Britain about fiddling with the purchase of medical supplies and vehicles.

Also, U.S. auditors uncovered the manipulation of contracts with the state material reserves, as well as the unauthorized use of funds for programs of land registration.

According to lawyer Mark McDougall, a representative of the firm Akin Gump, in the auditors' report can be seen the list of agreements, "which lead directly to Yulia Tymoshenko and other members of the government."

Recall that the May 2010, the Cabinet has signed a contract with an American company "Trout Cacheris, PLLC" to conduct an audit of financial-economic activities of public authorities.

As reported DELFI, according to Tymoshenko, Yanukovich's main objective and sponsors - the separate budget.   
 
 
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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/105570/


Prosecutor general blames Tymoshenko government officials for fraudulent procurement of vaccines  May 30 at 10:19  Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Pshonka accuses officials of ex-premier Yulia Tymoshenko's government for the fraudulent procurement of vaccines during a flu outbreak in Ukraine in 2009.

"The government officials are to blame, they have worked under the leadership of Yulia Timoshenko," the prosecutor general said on Inter TV channel on Friday evening. He stressed that the Ukrainian Interior Ministry is investigating this criminal case.

According to the prosecutor general, there are five defendants in this case, including two high-ranking officials. The decision of a district court in Oregon, the U.S. about the return to the Ukrainian budget of more than $19 million illegally spent by Tymoshenko's government on the purchase of vaccines at inflated prices, confirms the facts of the infringement of law by officials of Tymoshenko's government, he said.

As reported, on May 20, a court in the state of Oregon, the United States, has ruled that over $19 million spent illegally on vaccine at artificially high prices by the government led by former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is to be reimbursed to the Ukrainian national budget. On May 23, an appeals instance confirmed the court's ruling, having rejected demands by the defendant's legal representative.

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Chairman of the Main Control and Revision Office of Ukraine Petro Andreyev: "lack of professionalism and criminals fraudulent actions by Timoshenko's government"
http://dnews.donetsk.ua/2011/01/20/5005.html

During the year 2008-2009 and the first quarter of 2010, the Control and Audit Service has identified 35 billion of losses inflicted by the state.

This was stated by director Peter GlavKRU Andreev at the Cabinet meeting.

"From the audited agencies service more than 14,300 companies, institutions and organizations, found violations at 13 500 or 94% of the scanned objects," - he said.

"Revealed violations of over 93 billion hryvnia, of which the sum of losses of public resources, damages caused to the state, simply looted the state budget ... over 35 billion hryvnia," - said Andreev.

In addition, he called the "unprofessional" and the criminal machinations of 'the government of Yulia Tymoshenko "in management in the manual mode by means of the Single Treasury Account."

"The volume and direction of expenditures of state and local budgets were calculated on the oral instructions close to the former prime minister of officials", - said the head of GlavKRU.

"We have video material, where the head of the State Treasury in the manual mode, on his direct instructions distributed hundreds of millions and billions of flows of funds in the state budget, which is absolutely not have been foreseen in the Law on State Budget", - said Andreev.

"From 25 billion of liquid funds, which were located on the assets as of 01.01.2010 - is on the analytical accounts of the State Treasury and in accordance with the reports of the State Treasury - the amount of liquid assets amounted to 1.7 billion hryvnia," - he said.

"We have to figure out where else gone 25 billion hryvnia" - added Andreev.

As you know, before broadcasting the meeting of the Cabinet was stopped after the introduction of the Prime Minister. This time, Mykola Azarov extended airplay on his speech the head of KRA.   
 
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Olga, these links are from,.....
 
Head of the Security Service of Ukraine,....
Ukraine Premier Minister Nikolai Azarov,.....
State Duma member Vasili Gritsak, 
MP from the Party of Regions,   
Ukrainian Prosecutor General, 
Chairman of the Main Control and Revision Office of Ukraine.
 
All Yanukovich puppets.
 
And from an individual who testified for the prosecution yesterday, Yuriy Pavlenko, who today was appointed by Yanukovich as the "President of the Rights of the Child".
 
 
When the MP from the party of Regions was asked where the money went,  he "thinks" it went to buy cheap Chinese buses, the purchase of apartments.
 
Wow, he thinks some of the stolen money went to buy cheap Chinese buses and apartments. 
 
Shouldn't something like this be proven before putting someone behind bars?   
 
Shouldn't something like this be easy to prove?
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2011, 11:29:25 AM »

Olga, these links are from,.....
 
Head of the Security Service of Ukraine,....
Ukraine Premier Minister Nikolai Azarov,.....
State Duma member Vasili Gritsak, 
MP from the Party of Regions,   
Ukrainian Prosecutor General, 
Chairman of the Main Control and Revision Office of Ukraine.
 
All Yanukovich puppets.
 
And from an individual who testified for the prosecution yesterday, Yuriy Pavlenko, who today was appointed by Yanukovich as the "President of the Rights of the Child".
 
 
When the MP from the party of Regions was asked where the money went,  he "thinks" it went to buy cheap Chinese buses, the purchase of apartments.
 
Wow, he thinks some of the stolen money went to buy cheap Chinese buses and apartments. 
 
Shouldn't something like this be proven before putting someone behind bars?   
 
Shouldn't something like this be easy to prove?

Jack,

honestly I don't care what the Ukrainian officials have to say and who is whose puppet  :) I just googled in the content of "Timoshenko stole billions"

I think if they can prove Timoshenko's criminal wrong doings to the country's detriment she has to be responsible, if not they have to let her go.

I also agree in some point with the Russian officials who stood up for Timoshenko
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/08/05/midtim/

"... the gas contract between Russia and Ukraine were concluded in accordance with national and international law and as directed by the presidents of both countries."


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/08/05/midtim/&ei=jm9FTseTOdKv0AGknOjtBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCwQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D5%2B%25D0%25B0%25D0%25B2%25D0%25B3%25D1%2583%25D1%2581%25D1%2582%25D0%25B0%2B%25D0%25A2%25D0%25B8%25D0%25BC%25D0%25BE%25D1%2588%25D0%25B5%25D0%25BD%25D0%25BA%25D0%25BE%2B%25D0%25A0%25D0%25BE%25D1%2581%25D1%2581%25D0%25B8%25D1%258F%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1117%26bih%3D561%26prmd%3Divns   
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2011, 11:48:54 AM »
Hey Jack. Slow down, you are all over the place with these articles.
 
I believe that Boe was accusing Goldilocks of stealing billions. IF you look closely at Lazarenko's trial, you'll see where she was involved. The exact amount of money "misappropriated" will never be known but it is estimated in the billion$. What you are missinig is the date. This was when she was a lowly "civil servant," not Prime Minister, circa 2001(?). She was skimming over inflated prices and the money diverted to offshore accounts. Then came Firtash, a friend of Kuchma's and he wanted to get in the game. She was literally kicked out of the scheme in favor of the boys' group. Besides, she did not paid her dues like every other oligarch. In order to steal, oligarchs have to pay (million$) to the capo di tutti capi. Then HE is given the green light to steal. (As an aside, one of Azarov's first statement in the RADA was imploring the MPs (oligarchs) to keep the stealing to 5% or less because the country was in bad shape.)
 
Firtash paid his dues and formed RUE (RusUkrEner) with (later on President) Yushenko's brother and its purpose was to serve as an intermediary. Basically, the oligarchs were auditing how much was being stolen now. With Goldilocks, they had no clue. There is no worse wrath than a woman scorned. Goldilocks did not forget her month in jail. But what really got her goat is how she was kicked out of the stealing venture. Revenge was to eliminate the intermediary, RUE. Why do you think it took Yushenko such a long time to appoint her , the "heroine of the Orange Revolution," PM; TWICE? He knew what she was going to do.
 
The promise of the Orange Revolution went down the drain because the thieves were fighting among each other for gas money.
 
What she is being accused in this trial is for "stealing" carbon credits sold to other nations. And the way she "stole" or abused her power was using (or borrowing) some of the money to pay for social services. The money was "returned" or never left. Remember, this is Ukraine and how they do their accounting. Even some real auditors (not the ones that Yanikonvict bought from Wash DC) confirmed that these $$ from carbon credits are still where they are suppossed to be, in UA National Bank.
 
The real issue of this trial is that Yanukonvict wants to change the gas deal Goldilocks sign with Putin. This guy is so dense that he is easily manipulated by the Donetsk clan (Ahkmetov & Co) into doing this. The irony is that Yanukonvict is not getting the billion Goldilock would have gotten out of a deal like this. The Donetsk clan are the one stealing the country blind. Meanwhile, Yanukonvikt is being thrown to the lions as a sacrificial lamb.
 
Keep in mind that the US State Department is aware of all these shennanigans.
 
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2011, 12:09:31 PM »
Hey Jack. Slow down, you are all over the place with these articles.
     
 
 
Muzh, I did offer some personal comments as to the crook Yanukonvict however with these articles that I am all over the place with I am only addressing those articles presented by Boethius and OlgaH.

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2011, 02:43:36 PM »
Tymoshenko is a brush with fame for me.  She was leaving an elevator in the Odessa Hotel as I was entering.  Very petite woman with big security.
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2011, 04:32:19 PM »
Today's news in a nutshell [from Jack's link]...

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Aug 12, 2011, 11:19 am Yulia Tymoshenko’s defense will seek the truth in the Supreme Court          __________.jpgYulia Tymoshenko’s lawyer Yuriy Sukhov says the defense will take the case of the illegal arrest of former Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko to the Supreme Court.
 
"This is an absurd decision and clearly it will be the subject of a complaint to the European Court of Human Rights. Of course we will appeal to the Supreme Court. I will appeal this decision, but I know that the Supreme Court will probably do the same because there is no justice in Ukraine," Yuriy Sukhov told reporters after today’s hearing where the Kyiv Court of Appeals refused to consider Yulia Tymoshenko’s appeal of her arrest.
 
The lawyer noted that the decision by the Kyiv Court of Appeals was illegal. "There is no justice in Ukraine. This is judicial lawlessness, when a person is arrested and she can’t appeal this decision. It’s absurd. In its decision the court referred to the fact that we based our appeal on the Constitution and Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, which says that national legislation must provide the opportunity to appeal an order of arrest. And even if the laws don’t, then the institution of appeal must make a decision based on the Convention," said Yuriy Sukhov.
 
The lawyer stressed that in making her decision, the judge ignored international law. "The judges provided no justification for her decision. She said that Ukrainian law does not provide for appeal. She doesn’t refer to international law or the Constitution, and just says that national law, meaning the Criminal Procedure Code, doesn’t provide for appeal. It’s absurd," he said.
 
Yulia Tymoshenko’s defense lawyer said that the absence of a judicial system and inability to protect the legal rights of the country’s citizens may force him to leave the profession. "I am working as defense counsel on two high-profile cases and I’m afraid I will probably leave the professional after these trials because I don’t see the point of being a lawyer when it’s impossible to establish the truth in the court, when no legal arguments work," he said. 

http://www.tymoshenko.ua/en/article/vx7xm95o

Translating Boe's and Olga's links, it looks like a big fat 'he said she said' mess.
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2011, 05:21:58 PM »
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Yulia Tymoshenko’s defense lawyer said that the absence of a judicial system and inability to protect the legal rights of the country’s citizens may force him to leave the profession. "I am working as defense counsel on two high-profile cases and I’m afraid I will probably leave the professional after these trials because I don’t see the point of being a lawyer when it’s impossible to establish the truth in the court, when no legal arguments work," he said.

I guess it is not his first case in Ukraine and not his first year in the profession to complaine about "a judicial system and inability to protect the legal rights of the country’s citizens" and announce his leaving  :D

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2011, 08:31:10 PM »
Tymoshenko's lawyer, according to reports in Ukrainian papers, routinely used his position to intimidate opponents.  He also threw his wife and their three minor children out of their matrimonial home, and paid no support.  He intimidated and threatened her with arrest if she complained.  She came to the trial and shouted out at him, and that was how she was interviewed.  He also asked for some outrageous amount of time to review documents, saying he has trouble reading.  It was an amount no Canadian or American court would grant either, and no lawyer would dare ask for.

I have had two clients win cases in Ukrainian courts, one when facing an oligarch, the other, the Ukrainian government.  That's fairly impressive for foreign companies.  So, I wouldn't say there is no justice in Ukraine.  I think there has been a slide, but it did work and can work, despite some hiccups.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2011, 10:52:06 PM »
Tymoshenko's lawyer, according to reports in Ukrainian papers, routinely used his position to intimidate opponents.  He also threw his wife and their three minor children out of their matrimonial home, and paid no support.  He intimidated and threatened her with arrest if she complained.  She came to the trial and shouted out at him, and that was how she was interviewed.  He also asked for some outrageous amount of time to review documents, saying he has trouble reading.  It was an amount no Canadian or American court would grant either, and no lawyer would dare ask for.

I have had two clients win cases in Ukrainian courts, one when facing an oligarch, the other, the Ukrainian government.  That's fairly impressive for foreign companies.  So, I wouldn't say there is no justice in Ukraine.  I think there has been a slide, but it did work and can work, despite some hiccups.

Which Ukrainian paper(s) wrote that?
 

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2011, 09:36:45 AM »
  Here is a video some might find interesting and shows what I think is the beginning of protest's that will grow due to Yanukovych's sham of a trial over his number one challanger (Tymoshenko) to the next presidential election.  
 
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Go to the video that is 8 minutes and 4 seconds in length.  The first 1.45 minutes is somewhat boaring but look at what begins to happen around the 2.45 mark and look at the size of the crowd at 3 minutes and 45 seconds and what Yanukovych is having to do, the force he is beginning to have to put together, in hopes of silencing the oppostion to his sham trail.   
 
 
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Here was an interesting conversation and disclosure Tymoshenko had with Yanukovych's young puppet Judge Kireyev yesterday.       
 
 
The defense in the trial of former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko today pointed out in court that there are discrepancies between the case records being read aloud by Judge Rodion Kireyev and photocopies of the case record given to the defense.

“You’re not alarmed that your document has marks that don’t match what we have? You as a judge should at least be somewhat troubled by this, how did marks get on the documents after they were handed over to the court. This means falsification,” Yulia Tymoshenko said today in court after the judge read written evidence in the case.

Yulia Tymoshenko asked that the judge allow the defense to review this documents, but the judge denied the request, saying that the defense’s motions will be considered after the presentation of evidence in the case.

Yulia Tymoshenko called this an unprecedented and unacceptable violation.

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2011, 11:22:02 AM »
Without taking personal sides, regardless of what one thinks of Mrs. Tymoshenko, I find it to be a sham trial and can understand why so many international governments think likewise.

Billions? That is not in dollars. 1,000,000 Hryvnias = $125,000 USD

This past Saturday, 24 September, Yanukovich was called to Moscow (and I don't use that phrasing lightly) where he met both President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin at Zavidovo, the presidential country dacha.

This was a very important meeting as it was on the same weekend of the United Russia congress where Medvedev made the announcement that Putin would return to the presidency. To Russia, timing is important on this matter.

Medvedev made a brief statement to the press, saying "I will not deny that there is some concern about our energy issues, but I am confident that given everything we have achieved in the past one and a half years ­­– and we have achieved a great deal: we were able to stabilize economic and trade cooperation and many other issues – I am confident that here too we will be able to approach the situation constructively."

Read between the lines. Who is guilty and who is not doesn't matter at this stage and frankly, the presidents of two neighboring countries signed off on the deal so it really doesn't matter.

If Yanukonvict can't get this sham trial out of the news then he risks finding himself isolated, homeless and countryless at some point. He needs to find an 'out' and unfortunately he's not exactly brain surgeon material and thus has painted himself in a corner without many options.

If he's smart (or gets good advice because he certainly isn't that smart), he'll allow her to be sentenced and then commute the sentence "out of good will and healing for the country, blah blah blah."

As to her not speaking the Ukrainian language, then she is putting on quite a good show at the trials. Her use of Ukrainian in court has ticked off the judge. She has since learning the language made a point of speaking Ukrainian in public venues. http://www.articleum.com/en/4559.html

If you want to judge her ability at Ukrainian I'd suggest a YouTube search and let our Ukrainian speakers judge her speaking ability.

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2011, 12:12:22 PM »
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28.09.2011 A verdict will be issued this week in the controversial trial brought against ex-premier Yulia Tymoshenko. The prosecution wants seven years, but the European Union has issued strong warnings against any imprisonment.
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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2011, 03:08:47 PM »
The crowds and support for Tymoshenko are growing larger every day.  Officials have had to make more room for Tymoshenko supporters on the east side of Khershaytk as their is no more room for them on the west side of Khershaytk. 

I have taken several photos of the two support camps on Khershaytk, Yanacrookvich's and Tymoshenko's. The differences between the two are unbelieveable.  I even took a video of the Yanacrookvich's camp when I first arrived in late August, being somewhat of a tall guy was able to put my video camera over the 7 foot covered/protected area that the public cannot easily see in. Got into a bit of a scuffle with Yanacrookvich's goons.  I'll try to play that video on rwd when time permits. The video will take longer than the photos.

Will try to post some of the photos I took tomorrow morning. As the crowds are growing larger for Tymoshenko and getting louder, and our tour is winding down, I'll be spending time there tomorrow in case something good or big breaks out.


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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2011, 03:18:08 PM »
From a couple of weeks back.


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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2011, 03:35:37 PM »
Goldilocks'll walk.

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Re: Western Concern Grows Over Tymoshenko Arrest..bail requests rejected
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2011, 03:54:06 PM »
Tymoshenko's fortune, which is over a billion dollars, was made through UES.  She made that billion basically, through money laundering and stealing gas, via her connection to Lazarenko.  Lazarenko was convicted by a US court for money laundering, extortion, and wire fraud.  I am certain we won't hear the "political machinations" which resulted in that case.

Tymoshenko is on trial in this case for gas contracts.  I never posted this particular trial is about her theft of the billions she has hidden, much of it offshore.

Crowd members are often paid in Ukraine, so I would not put too much store in demonstrations.

All Tymoshenko's speeches in Ukrainian are from prepared texts.  The last time I saw a live interview which granted, was a little over 2 years ago, she could not answer questions live, unrehearsed, in Ukrainian when put to her.  I will have a look around youtube for something unrehearsed.
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