American men who are scammers

[MoscowFlower]

Although it may seem to be a bit of revenge (justified in my opinion) it will also prevent some others from being hurt as well.

I wonder who else can be hurt by that man? I just doubt if there exist any woman who is able to give any money to a man! J


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[Vaughn]

MoscowFlower:

He was hinting few times about the possibility of sale my moscow apartment

In my opinion only, a huge red flag for a lady to notice (or not). Anytime I've heard of the apartment-sale subject surfacing early on in a budding relationship, there ultimately were financial rumblings in the belly of the beast.

Last time he sent me $200 (Dec 2003) - it was when I was going to call his mother.

 

Let's see - it's been  26 months since he made a token payment. I don't understand how he deserves another day of your patience. Make that call to his mother, but give him no warning - it might just be what he fears the most.

I'll reimburse you for the long-distance call, ладно?

Vaughn 

 

[MoscowFlower]

 
In my opinion only, a huge red flag for a lady to notice (or not). Anytime I've heard of the apartment-sale subject surfacing early on in a budding relationship, there ultimately were financial rumblings in the belly of the beast.

Let's see - it's been  26 months since he made a token payment. I don't understand how he deserves another day of your patience. Make that call to his mother, but give him no warning - it might just be what he fears the most.

I'll reimburse you for the long-distance call, ладно? 

   Dear Vaughn,

   Thank you very much for offering to reimburse that long-distance call. But I can afford it. You just can't imagine how much money I have spent during these 6 years calling him!

   Concerning his mother: he clear told me that if I will call his mother or any of his relatives - I won't get a penny. I know that now he feels guilty about that money. But if I will call his mother - sure he will feel angry. There is more chance to get money from guilty person than from angry one. Additionally his mother maybe not alive. When I saw her 7 years ago she was very old (maybe in her 90-s) and with not very clear mind.

   Concerning apartment: he never mentioned it before he told me that he is bankrupt - maybe just had it on his mind. I wish we can read other's mind!

   Also as I've mentioned before - something is going now which brobabaly will help me to make him to think about his debt more seriously !   

[Turboguy]

   Concerning his mother: he clear told me that if I will call his mother or any of his relatives - I won't get a penny.

I am sure that is right.   How much do you think you will get if you don't call his mother?

I hate to say it Moscow Flower but I think you can kiss your money good bye one way or the other.

I am not sure what is more expensive.   Trying to find the right person, finding the right person, or finding the wrong person.   It sounds like for both of us, finding the wrong person cost us a lot.

 

[MoscowFlower]

[user=868] [/user]I am not sure what is more expensive.   Trying to find the right person, finding the right person, or finding the wrong person.   It sounds like for both of us, finding the wrong person cost us a lot. 

You're absolutely right! But my case is even more ridicules - as usually in "russian-american relations" the victim of money loss is a MAN!


 

[Turboguy]

You are right that in Russian -  American relationships the usual looser is the man but in American - American relationships it can go either way.  I have heard a lot of American woman talk about guys taking advantage of them. 

With Russian American relationships usually the gal does not have much for a bad dude to get and ususally the guys that can afford to make the trip are going to have enough that they not looking to profit from a lady.  You are right, you are the exception.   I am sorry it happened to you.