Psychology..nefarious intentions..Master and slave

[Misha]

Ok, psychology, philosophy, philology...
Even American graduates with these majors have huge difficulties when they look for jobs.
They have to settle as burger flippers or waiters.

Certainly, they are good for beautiful housewives who don't want to work.

I do not even know where to start. IMHO you are certainly coming across as very rude in your posts.

[Vincenzo]

what you are talking about?

I recommend you read posts more attentively. Only one man visited me.

Sorry, I thought you were an experienced dater.
I asked myself, "How could crowds of sex tourists and lunatics go off the beaten path to visit such a young and lovely lady; so, she could get extensive knowledge about them?"

My experience tells me that I should chat via Skype as long as possible before I travel to a girl. Why would I travel to a girl whom I don't love virtually?

There was a message above saying that it's very expensive for an American to travel to Russia. That's why I mentioned the cost.

[Vincenzo]

I do not even know where to start. IMHO you are certainly coming across as very rude in your posts.

It's the reality.
Would you rather date a woman who has a convertible profession or a woman whose profession is useless in your city if everything else is equal?

It certainly depends if you prefer a housewife sitting day after day at home or a career woman who can integrate nicely into the surrounding society.

Actually, a clever woman will ask the question, "What will I do if I move to your city? I'm a great philosopher, you have to sell your house and move immediately to New York where I can find a good job."

[Misha]

It's the reality.
Would you rather date a woman who has a convertible profession or a woman whose profession is useless in your city if everything else is equal?

What is your profession? Any woman from Russia coming to North America will face challenges in building a career no matter what her profession may be. I don't know of any truly "convertible" professions. Doctors and lawyers will face major hurdles, the same is true for engineers, and other such professionals. Even hairdressers will have to work hard to get their credentials recognized. Immigration is not easy for most people. Choosing a woman based on profession would be the silliest thing a man could do.

[Vincenzo]

Choosing a woman based on profession would be the silliest thing a man could do.

Then the man will face a problem when the woman will divorce him because she can't find an appropriate job for her.

Where can a woman find a job in your city if she is a Russian philosopher?
I searched craigslist jobs using "philosophy" as a keyword. It only returned, "Our philosophy is..."

[Jerra]

Sorry, I thought you were an experienced dater.
I asked myself, "How could crowds of sex tourists and lunatics go off the beaten path to visit such a young and lovely lady; so, she could get extensive knowledge about them?"

My experience tells me that I should chat via Skype as long as possible before I travel to a girl. Why would I travel to a girl whom I don't love virtually?

There was a message above saying that it's very expensive for an American to travel to Russia. That's why I mentioned the cost.

I not let to come to me that kinda eccentric fellows. I wrote before that is easy to show up them. so why I will to meet that guys?

that is make sense to chat with girl before meeting. but not as long as possible. I think 3 month more then enough. but it is probably depend of vacations...

[Misha]

Then the man will face a problem when the woman will divorce him because she can't find an appropriate job for her.

Where can a woman find a job in your city if she is a Russian philosopher?
I searched craigslist jobs using "philosophy" as a keyword. It only returned, "Our philosophy is..."

Smart competent people always find jobs, though it takes more time for some. Sure, you won't see job ads for philosophers, but the critical thinking skills can be applied in a number of jobs that won't advertise for a philosopher. But, I am sure you have a profession that won't allow you to understand that... Who exactly relies solely on Craig's List to find a job!?!

[Vincenzo]

I not let to come to me that kinda eccentric fellows. I wrote before that is easy to show up them. so why I will to meet that guys?

that is make sense to chat with girl before meeting. but not as long as possible. I think 3 month more then enough. but it is probably depend of vacations...

How do you know if a guy is a sex tourist if he doesn't come to you and ask to take off your clothes?

Some girls say when a man sends his photos in underwear, he is a sex tourist. Though, 50% of girls upload photos in bikinis.

So, when a man doesn't come after 3 months, is he a chatter?

[Vincenzo]

Smart competent people always find jobs, though it takes more time for some. Sure, you won't see job ads for philosophers, but the critical thinking skills can be applied in a number of jobs that won't advertise for a philosopher. But, I am sure you have a profession that won't allow you to understand that... Who exactly relies solely on Craig's List to find a job!?!

Really?
I heard that during this recession many smart and competent people can't find jobs locally. They often have to leave everything and relocate to places with jobs (like small immigration).

Every lady will ask a question about your profession. Yes, this silly question.
You may say, "I'm a philosopher. I'm often unemployed. When I'm employed, my salary is very low." Sure, she'll say, "I love you anyway. Your profession doesn't matter." But you won't hear her anymore.

What's wrong about craigslist? You can easily find six-figure jobs there.

[veritas]

How do you know if a guy is a sex tourist if he doesn't come to you and ask to take off your clothes?

Some girls say when a man sends his photos in underwear, he is a sex tourist. Though, 50% of girls upload photos in bikinis.

So, when a man doesn't come after 3 months, is he a chatter?

Dude, you are TRULY a TROLL!!!   

Kevin

[Hammer2722]

I agree, TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jumper]

Vincenzo-
 
 
Jerra's odds are as good as anyone else's.
 
 
 
what's your point in continuing this ?
 
If you want to speculate about RW's field of study,occupation or career choices and how it possibly relates to international dating, you should make a new thread in experienced section..??
 
This is the introduction section afterall.
 
 

[veritas]

I agree, TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Careful, Hammer -- I've been told by a moderator to moderate that opinion ... 

Kevin

[Vincenzo]

If you want to speculate about RW's field of study,occupation or career choices and how it possibly relates to international dating, you should make a new thread in experienced section..??

I just asked her personal opinion about her study.
She'll leave the forum in a couple weeks anyway.

I'm not interested in politically correct threads.
My opinion. If a girl studies psychology, it's just for a diploma. She'll marry and forget everything. I think it's prestigious in the Russian society to have a diploma, any diploma.
Then I read numerous profiles: "Education - higher, Job - salesperson".

[Jumper]

I just asked her personal opinion about her study.
She'll leave the forum in a couple weeks anyway.

I'm not interested in politically correct threads.
My opinion. If a girl studies psychology, it's just for a diploma. She'll marry and forget everything. I think it's prestigious in the Russian society to have a diploma, any diploma.
Then I read numerous profiles: "Education - higher, Job - salesperson".

 You should take that up with the Admin,
as far as how the mentality displayed here pertains to the introduction section?
 
 
Nothing you opinied on,  wouldn't be equally true of many students in many societies..?
 
including the fact most degreed people do not ultimately work in their field of study,regardless the nation.
 
 
You were wrong in your previous tactless assumptions about the poster, and yet persist in continuing down a path of rude assumptions , about a new member.
 
It has nothing to do with bieing politically correct.
 
It has to do with being welcoming to new members within this introduction section.
 
Others new members,male and female,  have met with similar undeserved assumptions of thier values and goals.
 
When I see it , I called them out on it as well ,as a member , not a moderator.
 
 
 

[Misha]

I just asked her personal opinion about her study.
She'll leave the forum in a couple weeks anyway.

How do you know when she will leave the forum?

I'm not interested in politically correct threads.

Has nothing to do with political correctness, but has much to do with some assumptions and biases, yours, that clearly unfounded. In Canada, the stats are pretty clear. Somebody with a bachelor's degree, any bachelor's degree including philosophy, is less likely to be unemployed and more likely to earn more money than someone without a degree. Perhaps you have degree envy Vince, but that has nothing to do with being PC or not.

My opinion. If a girl studies psychology, it's just for a diploma. She'll marry and forget everything. I think it's prestigious in the Russian society to have a diploma, any diploma.
Then I read numerous profiles: "Education - higher, Job - salesperson".

And what exactly is wrong with being a salesperson? In Russian society, a salesperson can often make more money than a teacher or a counsellor depending on the job. Likewise, the same could be said of the USA.

[Gator]

I just asked her personal opinion about her study.
She'll leave the forum in a couple weeks anyway.

I'm not interested in politically correct threads.
My opinion. If a girl studies psychology, it's just for a diploma. She'll marry and forget everything. I think it's prestigious in the Russian society to have a diploma, any diploma.
Then I read numerous profiles: "Education - higher, Job - salesperson".

You continue to run you mouth when you should be learning how to connect with a RW. 
 
Experienced posters are saying your comments are rude and your conclusions wrong.  You show no respect for RW, and that will be fatal when communicating with them.   Frankly, RW will find you appalling if you ever take a trip.   If you are serious about finding love in the FSU, you need to read the guidelines for men's behavior:
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=24

[Muzh]

How do you know when she will leave the forum?

Don't you recognize a misogynist when he says to the lady, "Woman, know your place."


Boy, what a troglodyte. Nah, they had better manners.

[Misha]

Don't you recognize a misogynist when he says to the lady, "Woman, know your place."
Boy, what a troglodyte. Nah, they had better manners.

Hey, I was trying to be polite 

[Vincenzo]

I actually had a problem with the last girl that I met because of her profession.
She refused to proceed because she didn't want to quit her job as a lawyer, to quit her hobbies, etc. You know, there are no jobs for Russian lawyers in the West. Certainly, the main reason was that I didn't live in Paris, her dream city.

I'm not rude, I'm practical.

If a woman wants to immigrate to the West, she must obtain a good profession suitable for the West. If her marriage fails, she won't have skills to earn money.
You know that a low-wage salesperson will be treated as shit: her boss will be really rude, she'll work long hours, even overnight... What else can an unskilled person get?
 

[pitbull]

I actually had a problem with the last girl that I met because of her profession.
She refused to proceed because she didn't want to quit her job as a lawyer, to quit her hobbies, etc. You know, there are no jobs for Russian lawyers in the West. Certainly, the main reason was that I didn't live in Paris, her dream city.

I'm not rude, I'm practical.

If a woman wants to immigrate to the West, she must obtain a good profession suitable for the West. If her marriage fails, she won't have skills to earn money.
You know that a low-wage salesperson will be treated as shit: her boss will be really rude, she'll work long hours, even overnight... What else can an unskilled person get?

So what kind of profession should a RW obtain in Russia that would get her successfully and gainfully employed in the West? Will you give a couple examples?
 
Also, what salary will you expect her to earn should she relocate and marry you.
 
Thanks,
 
P.

[BC]

 
Well, I only count professions that allow to support a person/family 100%, not making an occasional buck here and there.
 

Yeah, 100% is tough.. I was thinking mostly along the lines of what could be reasonably doable in a short time and/or something that would be cash in hand without need for certification.  I think in some states they even require certification for a babysitter....

During my last visit to the states I saw a rather large number of advertisements and billboards for Nurses..  Of all fields I think there may be huge and growing demand.. but it's probably one of those 'start over' things.

A commercial pilot, maybe stewardess?

[OlgaH]

You know, there are no jobs for Russian lawyers in the West.

Depends on a person  Personally I know a Russian woman who works as a paralegal with her Russian lawyer degree and now she also is studying at the University of Miami school of law. 

[Gator]

I'm not rude, I'm practical.

If a woman wants to immigrate to the West, she must obtain a good profession suitable for the West. If her marriage fails, she won't have skills to earn money.
You know that a low-wage salesperson will be treated as shit: her boss will be really rude, she'll work long hours, even overnight... What else can an unskilled person get?

You are getting better; this post is somewhat practical.  Nevertheless, you were rude in your prior posts, and do not try to deny it.   
 
Although practical, your post is full of negativity:   failed marriage, low paying job, bad boss, etc.  If she chooses correctly, her marriage will not fail, at least not quickly.  Perhaps Jerra wants children and would seek a man who supports his wife's goal to stay home, raise children and advance her education.  That is what I did and it was a joy for a long, long time.
 

I actually had a problem with the last girl that I met because of her profession.
She refused to proceed because she didn't want to quit her job as a lawyer, to quit her hobbies, etc. You know, there are no jobs for Russian lawyers in the West. Certainly, the main reason was that I didn't live in Paris, her dream city.

If you were smarter you would have eliminated this woman during the correspondence phase and not wasted a trip.  Discussion with RW should be more than asking what she did that day and how is the weather?  You certainly are direct with your questions this "Hi, everybody!" thread.  Why were you not direct with the lawyer?

[GQBlues]

I actually had a problem with the last girl that I met because of her profession.
She refused to proceed because she didn't want to quit her job as a lawyer, to quit her hobbies, etc. You know, there are no jobs for Russian lawyers in the West. Certainly, the main reason was that I didn't live in Paris, her dream city.

I'm not rude, I'm practical.

If a woman wants to immigrate to the West, she must obtain a good profession suitable for the West. If her marriage fails, she won't have skills to earn money. You know that a low-wage salesperson will be treated as shit: her boss will be really rude, she'll work long hours, even overnight... What else can an unskilled person get?

If you're so practical, then why the heck did you even waste your time communicating with a woman who aspire to live in a city other than your own?
 
Anyway, the OP is young and the fact she's obtaining higher education, chances are some, if not many, in her transcript will earn transferable credits here in the US (not excluding any other places as I don't know what their respective system requirements are). I will assume that to be true anywhere. This will at least accelerate her pursuit of a degree she can choose from day one of arrival.
 
That's true at least with my wife. She just passed her 4th CPA exam yesterday, and couple that with her State Uni degree, she's doing ok right now. All she have to do now is pass their ethics examination and get her certificate. This, all the while being gainfully employed full time. Another step up in the proverbial ladder, she'll be very close to passing the 6 figure threshold, which she should by the time she frames her certificate. That was the only thing her company was waiting on. That's not bad for being here just over 6 years - especially 3-4 of those years during recessive times and she being 2 years short of 30.
 
We're talking the US here...a little sweat and the willingness to put in the time and effort, anyone - I mean anyone, citizen and immigrant alike, can make hay here.