Websites determine the sincerity of the women? (split from a previous topic)

[Faux Pas]

You are overgeneralizing. I did not use such a website, rather I used a free Russian dating site. Increasingly, more and more men are using this option 

At the end of the day does that really matter? I contend it doesn't. How you "hooked up" makes little to no difference as does the end result, no?

You contacted your wife on a Russian dating site.

Ade's wife contacted him on a "western" dating site.

I contacted my wife on a West/East (EMs) dating site.

ALL are the same basic fundamentals as LoveMe.com or Anastasia.

There's no difference or separation from the rest of the pack anymore than you walked into an agency and picked photos out of a line up. We are the same and all related to the "MOB bidnezz" 

It's probably time that 800 lbs gorilla get recognized for who it is

[Misha]

At the end of the day does that really matter? I contend it doesn't.

And, I contend it does. The expectations of a woman on a Russian dating site are often much different. In my case, my wife agreed to a date before she even noticed that I was Canadian    Nonetheless, D_P wrote "all of us" and I am pointing out that all of us did not meet our significant others on MOB sites. We may disagree as to whether it matters, but all is not all.

[Faux Pas]

And, I contend it does. The expectations of a woman on a Russian dating site are often much different. In my case, my wife agreed to a date before she even noticed that I was Canadian    Nonetheless, D_P wrote "all of us" and I am pointing out that all of us did not meet our significant others on MOB sites. We may disagree as to whether it matters, but all is not all.

Really? Please explain.

[Misha]

Really? Please explain.

Quite simple. While dating, using Russian sites, I never encountered scammer, pro-daters or women solely seeking a foreign passport. Sure, there are certainly good women on the MOB sites, but clearly such sites also attract a different clientele, including those looking for a "better deal" to use D_P's terminology  The women that I could easily find on Russian dating sites were women looking for love. Not one of them even grilled me on how much I made

[Faux Pas]

Quite simple. While dating, using Russian sites, I never encountered scammer, pro-daters or women solely seeking a foreign passport.

So because you didn't encounter them means that they weren't there? You are aware there are those who never encountered them on HRB or Anastasia. Would you deduce they are not there as well?

Sure, there are certainly good women on the MOB sites, but clearly such sites also attract a different clientele, including those looking for a "better deal" to use D_P's terminology  The women that I could easily find on Russian dating sites were women looking for love. Not one of them even grilled me on how much I made

Now this is where you lose me. A different clientele? From which perspective, the man or the woman's? More scumbag men looking for sex or more women looking for a passport and an exit strategy? You are being so presumtious here Misha. You like and recommend the site you found your wife on, I get that. You want to think the quality of women there is at a higher level, I get that too. However, it doesn't make it true. The percentages of a good time girl or a scammer might be higher at HRB but, they might not. You have no conclusive evidence either way, do you? 

There is no separation of you from me or Ade despite what you want to believe. We all married Eastern women that were in some form or fashion contacted on the internet. Sucks don't it? 

It matters not who contacted whom or from which site the contact was made. It is all the same even if it was though HRB or Loveme.com

[JR]

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see...

[Misha]

Faux Pas, it is not that websites determine the sincerity of the women, rather that different types of websites attract different types of individuals. True, any web site may have a wonderful sincere woman, but the question is how many other than less sincere women will also be there, or to put it simply how much chaff will you have to go through to find the wheat or how long you will have to dig to find that diamond in the rough....

[Faux Pas]

Faux Pas, it is not that websites determine the sincerity of the women, rather that different types of websites attract different types of individuals. True, any web site may have a wonderful sincere woman, but the question is how many other than less sincere women will also be there, or to put it simply how much chaff will you have to go through to find the wheat or how long you will have to dig to find that diamond in the rough....

Ah, exactly! So if you had found your wife on HRB, you nor her would have been any less sincere, would you?

I'm not going in circles here but, I do want to point out to you that "ALL" , both men and women are looking for a deal. Different deals but, deals nonetheless. Some women seek love, some seek improving their stage in life and some seek a passport. Some men seek love, some seek sex, some seek a babysitter or wage earner. The bottom line is, everybody seeks something and they do across all internet sites. Funny thing is, it's the same dating local 

[Misha]

I'm not going in circles here but, I do want to point out to you that "ALL" , both men and women are looking for a deal.

This is Donna's original quote with my emphasis added: "Its interesting, how all of us - both those looking for good deals and those looking for pure love - "accidently" have posted their profiles on websites  designed especially to  hook up girls from FSU and men from rich western countries. "

So, explain to me Faux Pas how singles.ru was designed "especially" to "hook up girls from FSU and men from rich western countries"? Again, Donna is writing as if "all" found their wives and husbands on MOB sites, and I will affirm once again that this is not correct 

[Muzh]

Just a point of information. I met my wife on an internet cafe, not an IMB. But then again, things were so different 13 years ago.

Now, you may proceed with the duel. 

[jeff9556]

what is HRB?

I used mamba for a while and still communicate with one lady, but mostly EM.

I can't see how a 'type of women' might be generalized to exist on one site or another, apart from the fact that on sites like EM all women are looking for WM but on mamba they're mostly chasing the local talent - then again has anyone actually looked to see how many are on both?

[Faux Pas]

This is Donna's original quote with my emphasis added: "Its interesting, how all of us - both those looking for good deals and those looking for pure love - "accidently" have posted their profiles on websites  designed especially to  hook up girls from FSU and men from rich western countries. "

So, explain to me Faux Pas how singles.ru was designed "especially" to "hook up girls from FSU and men from rich western countries"? Again, Donna is writing as if "all" found their wives and husbands on MOB sites, and I will affirm once again that this is not correct 

Your and Donna's volley can continue. My only addition to that was, we ALL are looking for a deal of some sort. What, how or why the site was designed as it was rather it be singles.ru, Match.com, Elenasmodels.com or Loveme.com makes not one iota of difference. The "end result" is exactly the same.

You said yourself there are sincere women on all sites. I don't even question as to what degree. One site with more, one site with less, it is immaterial. The point is, it doesn't matter where you met her, how you met or who contacted whom, it is still East/West and all the general rules apply.

Misha, I only point this out because we are all connected at the hip here. There is no air of superiority due anyone that one site or method is somehow more cleansed or more of a pure relationship over the next. It's still IMB, MOB ect.. and we are all bathing in the same pool

[Faux Pas]

Just a point of information. I met my wife on an internet cafe, not an IMB. But then again, things were so different 13 years ago.

Now, you may proceed with the duel. 

You're a shyt stirrer, aren't you? 

On an internet cafe? Is that a chatroom, what?

what is HRB?

I used mamba for a while and still communicate with one lady, but mostly EM.

I can't see how a 'type of women' might be generalized to exist on one site or another, apart from the fact that on sites like EM all women are looking for WM but on mamba they're mostly chasing the local talent - then again has anyone actually looked to see how many are on both?

Hot Russian Brides. It is a site much like Anastasia. Lots of eye candy begging to chat/cam and suck up your available cash

[GoodOlBoy]

Back in 2004 I met my wife on RBrides.com and by most accounts here that is considered scammers central.
 
I'm still waiting for the scam....... 

Call me naive, but I think no matter what website you use, you just need to be careful and also read/ask a lot of questions here on RWD. 
 

GOB
 
 
BTW.... I used the old "RWG" forum to help me stay out of trouble.

[Faux Pas]

Back in 2004 I met my wife on RBrides.com and by most accounts here that is considered scammers central.
 
I'm still waiting for the scam....... 

Call me naive, but I think no matter what website you use, you just need to be careful and also read/ask a lot of questions here on RWD. 
 

GOB
 
 
BTW.... I used the old "RWG" forum to help me stay out of trouble.

I've heard about those. It's probably one of those "long term scams" 

[Misha]

It's still IMB, MOB ect.. and we are all bathing in the same pool

Perhaps, but an MOB site serves a different clientele, both the seekers and the sought, than a dating site where individuals are seeking local men and women.

[Faux Pas]

Perhaps, but an MOB site serves a different clientele, both the seekers and the sought, than a dating site where individuals are seeking local men and women.

I do understand what you're trying to say here but, even the scummiest of MOB sites have good fellas just like you that use them 

[Misha]

I do understand what you're trying to say here but, even the scummiest of MOB sites have good fellas just like you that use them 

Sure, but I would still avoid them given the choice and my point is still correct, not all foreigners who married RW used MOB sites.

[Faux Pas]

Sure, but I would still avoid them given the choice and my point is still correct, not all foreigners who married RW used MOB sites.

I would avoid them and advise anyone else too as well. However, not everyone receives that sage advice. Men or women

[Chicagoguy]

I am not sure if this is germane to these posts posts but the last couple of days Visa Journey had a discusson going on the topic of "Where We Met" and I was surprised how few were related to the Internet. I think I had tunnel vision about this.

[Faux Pas]

I am not sure if this is germane to these posts posts but the last couple of days Visa Journey had a discusson going on the topic of "Where We Met" and I was surprised how few were related to the Internet. I think I had tunnel vision about this.

Chiguy,
Do you think any were apprehensive to admit they met online or through an agency?

[GQBlues]

I am not sure if this is germane to these posts posts but the last couple of days Visa Journey had a discusson going on the topic of "Where We Met" and I was surprised how few were related to the Internet. I think I had tunnel vision about this.

LOL. Chi-Guy! Now I know you're senior than I am in this saga as I remember you've been posting at the ol' RWG even before I took my first trip (Remember Ranger's T/R?) to Moscow...
 
Most folks, for some reason, are stigmatized with the perception of how other people will look upon (them) others that met through MOB/IMB, yayadayada sites...there're even threads here at RWD not too long ago about what to say when people ask you how you met...LOL. Anything and everything but the truth.
 
AFAIK, say it like it is. I do and have. Even did it on TV. I met wifey on EM and when folks ask what that is, we tell them exactly what it is. Some folks are so stigmatized by it they'll do anything to disassociate themselves as far away from it as possible. The more they do so, the deeper the stigma is attached to each one accordingly. LOL.
 
Just like good ol' Peter before the rooster cracked at dawn.
 
Heck, I dated 2 PB centerfolder when I was a young buck, one simply because of her profile  , and the other I didn't know she was but didn't make a difference even when I did. Did that eye-candy mentality applied? Yup. Was I scammed or sorry I did? Nope. Am I stigmatized because of it? Hell No.
 
Insecurities carry on various form.
 

[Donna_Pedro]

And, I contend it does. The expectations of a woman on a Russian dating site are often much different. In my case, my wife agreed to a date before she even noticed that I was Canadian    Nonetheless, D_P wrote "all of us" and I am pointing out that all of us did not meet our significant others on MOB sites. We may disagree as to whether it matters, but all is not all.

Misha, I met my husband on yahoo.com profiles that used to be free back in 2000. But we are having and idiotic argument here. Like I am saying "Obesity is a problem in the US" and you reply "My wife is slim" and a number of other people say  "and my too". All of you might have slim wives, but obesity is still a problem. So yes, you, me, whoever else might find their wives (husbands) in other places, the fact stands - majority of rw-am meet on MOB sites. So for the sake of truth here could you look on certain things from a bigger prospective rather than you and yours?

[Misha]

the fact stands - majority of rw-am meet on MOB sites. So for the sake of truth here could you look on certain things from a bigger prospective rather than you and yours?

The majority is still not all, and my original comment was that you were overgeneralizing.

[Donna_Pedro]

Ah, exactly! So if you had found your wife on HRB, you nor her would have been any less sincere, would you?
I'm not going in circles here but, I do want to point out to you that "ALL" , both men and women are looking for a deal. 

This is true. Men make their deals too. I have met a number of good, sincere american  men, who would have nearly zero value on a local marriage market (because of their age, financial situation etc)  but managed to procure beautiful, educated, intelligent girls 10-20 years them younger in Russia (Ukraine) and ARE HAPPILY married! If this is not a deal, then what is?