why girls like men who treat them like bad?

[datingada]

if any one can give me any idea about this.

[Doll]

Not  all girls and not many of them, just some ( as well as some men like women who treat them bad).
 

[Turboguy]

I think women find bad men exciting.  Guys who treat them well are a dime a dozen and I think they find it boring where men who treat them bad present a challenge and many people find a challenge more appealing. 
 
Women also like a fix em up project and think they can mold a bad dude into what they want.  It never happens.  It is sort of like the old saying; 
 
Women marry men hoping they will change.  They don't!  Men marry women hoping they won't change.  They do!

[Gator]

Bad men don't have to ask how to be bad.  It comes naturally. 
 
Plus bad men have something else going for them such as rugged good looks or a mysterious soul.  Otherwise women would think of them as nothing more than an arse or dickhead.
 
IMO "charming personality" will woo 10x more women than "bad man personality."   My other advice,  it is important with RW to be strong and not a manchild, to be serious and not silly. 
 
Twobit bandit wrote in his trip report a near treatise on his approach for succeeding with women.

[SFandEE]

Hey Gator,


I don't think I have heard of TBBs position paper on that subject, sounds like a good read.  I can search for it, but any idea when or what subject it might come up under a search


Thanks

[Gator]

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11863.0
 
For you California lads.   

[Faux Pas]

Bad men don't have to ask how to be bad.  It comes naturally. 
 
Plus bad men have something else going for them such as rugged good looks or a mysterious soul.  Otherwise women would think of them as nothing more than an arse or dickhead.

Often some serious personality disorder
 

IMO "charming personality" will woo 10x more women than "bad man personality."   My other advice,  it is important with RW to be strong and not a manchild, to be serious and not silly. 

Agreed. Good info
 

Twobit bandit wrote in his trip report a near treatise on his approach for succeeding with women.

As I recall he had lots of dates but, little success

[Patagonie]

I think women find bad men exciting.  Guys who treat them well are a dime a dozen and I think they find it boring where men who treat them bad present a challenge and many people find a challenge more appealing. 
 
Women also like a fix em up project and think they can mold a bad dude into what they want.  It never happens.  It is sort of like the old saying; 
 
Women marry men hoping they will change.  They don't!  Men marry women hoping they won't change.  They do!

Absolutely right. We call them jerk. As geek and AFC are really boring they prefer a jerk that they want to control. Challenge attracts them, a guy who calls them five times per day, who comes at first time and anytime with roses, nothing new, just not interesting. Try to come in a party and ignore the most beautiful. She will think : what's wrong with me, he even not look at me (and if you are attractive), i don't understand people aroung him seems to have a good time. She will be curious. I you come and say may i bring you a glass of wine or champaign, you are only the 78th of the year (and it's only august for example). Or you say to her, the classical stupidity, "you are beautiful", you become a geek.
 

[sniper]

Absolutely right. We call them jerk. As geek and AFC are really boring they prefer a jerk that they want to control. Challenge attracts them, a guy who calls them five times per day, who comes at first time and anytime with roses, nothing new, just not interesting. Try to come in a party and ignore the most beautiful. She will think : what's wrong with me, he even not look at me (and if you are attractive), i don't understand people aroung him seems to have a good time. She will be curious. I you come and say may i bring you a glass of wine or champaign, you are only the 78th of the year (and it's only august for example). Or you say to her, the classical stupidity, "you are beautiful", you become a geek.

Yes thats right.
We like bad men but we (mostly) dont marry such men. Its just some period in every(almost every) womans life.
Its a challenge and its like...it seems more difficult to get such a guy coz competition is higher so it works as an ego boost kinda. If you got an alpha male it means you are alpha female. And yes we kinda hope that we'll chanage em but it never works, so we start looking at good guys

[Patagonie]

Yes thats right.
We like bad men but we (mostly) dont marry such men. Its just some period in every(almost every) womans life.
Its a challenge and its like...it seems more difficult to get such a guy coz competition is higher so it works as an ego boost kinda. If you got an alpha male it means you are alpha female. And yes we kinda hope that we'll chanage em but it never works, so we start looking at good guys

It's to become wise and mature. 

[Lily]

if any one can give me any idea about this.

No, the women don't like men who treat them badly. No one likes this, women including.

However, women are prone to look for the best man that they can find. Women go for quality, which includes certain character features, like decisiveness, ability to insist on what he wants, overall an alpha character which has been mentioned here. Women easily fall in love with alpha males.

Treating women badly at times, unfortunately, often comes hand in hand in an alpha male character. Since women are instinctively in love with them, they get their share of bad treatment. This may give you an appearance that some women may 'like' being mistreated. It is not up to their liking, though. It is just that they get it as part of the package of an alpha male.

Some women are clever enough to switch their rationale part and to go away from these abusers. Some either are not in a position to go and continue to tolerate the mistreatment. Female instincts vs. Rationale thinking. But the thing is that this is part of the character that is generally attractive to women.

[Doll]

I tried to say it earlier, Lily- I can't think of a woman who likes to be treated badly.
Sniper, alpha men actually don't seek for alpha women- they need to use their power which is hard with alpha women.

[OlgaH]

Often some serious personality disorder

the same about people who enjoy bad treatment, and these two find each other 

I tried to say it earlier, Lily- I can't think of a woman who likes to be treated badly.
Sniper, alpha men actually don't seek for alpha women- they need to use their power which is hard with alpha women.

actually they do exist such women, but I doubt there would be alpha-female among them 

[Doll]

I did not say they didn't exist- they are not the prey for alpha men.

[OlgaH]

I can't think of a woman who likes to be treated badly.

Just think of women from different sociocultural environment with different upbringing and different views on a man's behavior, or women who are physical and emotional masochists 

Would be nice if OP defines his "like bad" 

BTW here is an interesting movie with one of my favorite actors James Spader


 

[sniper]

I tried to say it earlier, Lily- I can't think of a woman who likes to be treated badly.
Sniper, alpha men actually don't seek for alpha women- they need to use their power which is hard with alpha women.

I didnt say alpha men seek for alpha women. I said it makes you feel you are alpha female if you get alpha male 
And its kinda vague by the way - 'treat bad'...

[Misha]

I said it makes you feel you are alpha female if you get alpha male 

How would you define an alpha female? I would define her as a very independent, strong, driven to succeed woman.

[BillyB]

 
What's a good man? One who gives women everything they want? That is a weak man and a weak man IS a bad man. Nice guys doesn't mean good men or husband material. It's okay to tell a woman "no". I've been around tough women and one reason they like me is because I can handle and don't always agree them.
 
 There are many nice guys out there that are jealous bad boys get more action than they. I've seen girls get involved with criminals, drunks and real losers but there's no reason to be jealous of those guys or desire the women those guys attract. Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid.

[GQBlues]

What's a good man? One who gives women everything they want? That is a weak man and a weak man IS a bad man. Nice guys doesn't mean good men or husband material. It's okay to tell a woman "no". I've been around tough women and one reason they like me is because I can handle and don't always agree them.
 
 There are many nice guys out there that are jealous bad boys get more action than they. I've seen girls get involved with criminals, drunks and real losers but there's no reason to be jealous of those guys or desire the women those guys attract. Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid.

 
Exactly.
 
 
Outside of men who abuse women, whom I don't believe women 'like' to begin with; define being treated 'bad'? He doesn't do their bidding? He doesn't cater to her every whim? He doesn't go out of his way to spoil her inspite of himself? He doesn't put up with any of her crap?

[JR]

A lot of women I have known will admit to being attracted to a "bad" man until he turns that badness upon her)))
Badness is exactly whatever each individual percieves it to be and in general whatever defination a local society assigns to it.
Humans in general are attracted to being a little bad, it's in our nature to want to break the rules, maybe just little and maybe a lot. Who of us wasn't tempted as a child to steal a cookie from the jar when we weren't supposed to? Now steal two cookies, run out to your group of friends and offer the second one to the cute girl from next door, who is she going to be attracted to, you or the guy saying you shouldn't have done it?

[Doll]

if any one can give me any idea about this.

Just need the definition- what is "treat them like bad"?
"Like" how?

[sniper]

How would you define an alpha female? I would define her as a very independent, strong, driven to succeed woman.

First - best (most beautiful, attractive, cool, successful and whatnot)

[Muzh]

if any one can give me any idea about this.

It has been my experience that the damaged, baggage-laden wenches are the ones who enjoy this kind of treatment.

I guess to each his/her own.

[Misha]

First - best (most beautiful, attractive, cool, successful and whatnot)

That makes more sense. In my understanding, the most attractive women are not necessarily have an alpha personality.

[Muzh]

That makes more sense. In my understanding, the most attractive women are not necessarily have an alpha personality.

Misha, many extremely attractive ladies I've met have been extremely insecure.