Just because I can, should I? 20+ year age gaps

[GoodOlBoy]

On average, a 40 + woman  who will only date +5 her age will have few and far between dates.  She can wish otherwise; but only a very few of her sisters can attain otherwise.

I don't track 40 yo RW here in SIB, but I can tell you for a GOD given fact that there are hundreds of 20 something yo RW/UW living right here on Collins Ave. (Winston Towers, Trump Towers, etc.) and you will not see one of them with a 40, 50, 60 or 70 year "старый козел" (old goat), unless it is their father/grandfather.
 
No, they are walking hand in hand with another 20 something yo or MAYBE a young 30 something yo on the sidewalk, going to/from the beach.
 
Thats all!
 
GOB
 
 

[GoodOlBoy]

Welcome back ECOCKS. 
 
GOB

PS.... Yeah,  I remember..."GOB, do not disturb the fantasy".

[Maxx2]

rivardco

You, your questions and much of the life experiences remind me of a very good friend of mine. I have remained silent in most of your threads for that reason and trying to stay objective. He is now approaching mid-60's. The consummate c**kster, successful in life, business and most everything he does. Full of vigor and the zest of life. He has been chasing 20 year old skirts since he was 20. He's not remotely interested in woman older than 30 and they are a bit old for him.

It's been an ongoing joke for years of his Peter Pan syndrome. He is and always has been a good looking man and quite vain. In the last 10 years (your next 10 years) he hasn't hit the wall but his age became glaringly evident. So much so he had a face lift (in the daylight looks quite ridiculous, in a dark lounge, not so much). The guy has had his choice of women over the years. Likely had and bedded 6 times more women than the above average man. He's now mid 60's and never married. He has searched for perfection (and found it numerous times to others opine) but never pulled the trigger. Now in his 60's has a lot of regret about that. Yet, he doesn't slow down still chasing the 20 year old Barbies and centerfolds to which most now, he's a just fun old guy.

One thing my old friend IMHO never gets is that people, men and women,  grow, learn and evolve. When he finds one he expects them to stay the same, as he has. You seem to share this with him. Your fit and look good now, options are on the table as were his. Then, that window of opportunity started closing. Yours will too, father time will start hanging around your house all too soon.

He sounds like the character played by Jack Nicholson in "Carnal Knowledge"

[Maxx2]

 
Sorry guy, but you are what we call here in the GoodOl' USA: "On the backside of 40"  (AKA...a few breaths away from 50) 
 

GOB

I'm that plus 8. I wouldn't consider a woman under 45. Hopefully one as well preserved as myself    (or better)

[Vasilisa]

+1. Been there, done that. Only dated men -10 to +5 after my divorce.

That's an interesting observaton. Before I got married I liked older guys, ignored the younger ones, now, after getting divorced I added 5 years younger than me and never married  to my search, too and they actually write to me

[ECOCKS]

Welcome back ECOCKS. 
 
GOB

PS.... Yeah,  I remember..."GOB, do not disturb the fantasy".

TY GOB!

And I agree totally on your post above the one I quoted. I just reached the decision that it's best not to disturb the fantasy and just let folks do what they want to. Most of the time it's like trying to teach a pig to dance, it will never work and it annoys the pig. People will do it anyway and could care less about reasonable and prudent advice.

We see it the same way in government. Advice and consent of the Senate on appointments was all fine and dandy until one side began saying the other was only using it to "be obstructionist" so let's up and change it so we can get people who only tell us what we want to hear.

Few really want the advice, they only seek validation of their belief.

Anyway, may all the old goats out there grow long beards as they gambol and frolic round the meadow 'mongst the soft and fluffy little ones!

[IAmZon]

It is easy to look at the image posted up thread and dismiss these type of threads as an old man trying to justify getting some tight a$$ ... but there is more than that going on here. 
=> The concept of age and aging has changed in the last 20 - 50 years.
=> Just as the role of the sexes has changed in the last 20 - 50 years.   
=> Just as the concept of marriage has changed in the last 20 - 50 years.

I could light up this post with fotos of me with a parade of women that look NOTHING like the image posted above.  But, I think that would only fuel this knee-jerk reaction to the topic.   

The converse of this topic is this - can I imagine myself dating 99.99999999999% of women my own age?   NOPE. Not one little bit. and the .000000000001 almost certainly would not want me anyway:)     

Again, I do appreciate the good, well meaning advise given above.  Good food for thought.

[pitbull]

+1
Hello Pitbull.
You must be reading the same RW forums that Marina and I do? 
 
GOB

Hi GOB
 
I suspect so.
 

[pitbull]

My opinion has changed drastically on this issue.

If you think it is right for you and are prepared for the consequences then go for it.

Anyone that tells you what a fool you are, just smile back and say "Yep, probably, but it's what we both want." Then get on with your life.

The only caveat I still have is that you shouldn't expect a whole lot of sympathy from the world when it goes south on you.

But HEY, you're a big boy, shrug it off and plan your next step and the heck with everyone else!

ECOCKS,
 
This is a perfect reply, totally agree!
 
The heart (and the ..ck) wants what the heart wants. Just go for it, rivarcdo!

[ECOCKS]

TY PB!

[chivo]

I'm going to keep this real simple. To the OP, (and taking you and your situation as it is) if you plan to live in Russia/Ukraine like in Colombia, you will have no problem finding a woman 23-35 for whatever reason you desire; be it for fun and games, or a 20yr plus relationship. Matter of fact, if fun and games are your objectives, anyone over 20 will not be a problem.
 
If you plan to live in America, I wouldn't go under 28. 30 plus, all day long.
 
I don't care what anyone else says here, I know this for a fact.

[chivo]

But, to address that issue, I disagree with  your statement.

And I have much proof to support the opposite of your statement, both from my own experience and from that of dozens of other guys that I know personally and from those who post here.

What we have is the typical situation where either:
1) a person is an exception or
2) they post what they wish would be true, rather than what is true.

i.e.  When a 40 + woman posts that she only dates men +5 to -10 years her age; then either she is a true exception or she hopes it could be true.

On average, a 40 + woman  who will only date +5 her age will have few and far between dates.  She can wish otherwise; but only a very few of her sisters can attain otherwise.

On average, a man can have a steady stream of dates with 40 year old women when he is 20 years their senior.

Dreams and wishes and proclamations do not change facts.   

This is spot on.
 
 

[Ranetka]

This is spot on.

OK, I agree, I am an exception.

[chivo]

I have no doubt about it. 

[IAmZon]

[quote]If you plan to live in America, I wouldn't go under 28. 30 plus, all day long. I don't care what anyone else says here, I know this for a fact.


I AGREE ENTIRELY!  That is why I am shifting gears, so to speak.   

If lightning strikes on my trip, I will honor it as perhaps I should have done 4 years ago.  If, on the other hand, I find nothing Earth Shattering ... I will be in Bucaramunga or Armenia Colombia (smaller sized, safe, and "proper" city) in August.   

[GoodOlBoy]

This is spot on.

Sorry Chivo.
 
I usually bow to the person who has "boots on the ground" in the FSU.
But in this case, maybe you better spend some more time here in the GoodOl' USA.
 
Maybe things have changed since your last visit??
 
There is no way in God's green earth, that a local FSU woman in my neck of the woods (SIB) would spend any quality (serious) time with some dude more than 10 years older than her.
 
NO WAY!
 
GOB
 
PS....And I know the ground rules are different in Russia. I have been there (Moscow, Siberia) several times since I married my beautiful wife. So yes, I know. 

[chivo]

Sorry Chivo.
 
I usually bow to the person who has "boots on the ground" in the FSU.
But in this case, maybe you better spend some more time here in the GoodOl' USA.
 
Maybe things have changed since your last visit??
 
There is no way in God's green earth, that a local FSU woman in my neck of the woods (SIB) would spend any quality (serious) time with some dude more than 10 years older than her.
 
NO WAY!
 
GOB
 
PS....And I know the ground rules are different in Russia. I have been there (Moscow, Siberia) several times since I married my beautiful wife. So yes, I know. 

Well, first of all that response was to ML's post about RW 40+ dating in Russia, so...maybe you should spend more time reading the post  .
 
And with regards to the OP, if he establishes roots in Russia for instance, with a woman for a year or two, I have no doubt about it. And we can agree to disagree if you will, but, I'm taking into account the OP, not "grandpa". You see I was under the impression (and I'm sure someone can will correct me if I'm wrong) that he was considering moving somewhere in Russia/Ukraine. Not the same as finding one in America.

And as far as dating RW in America, I have dated Russians there more than 10 years younger than me when I lived there, sorry to burst that bubble. But yes, not the norm.
 
Oh and BTW, I'm in the good ol USA as we speak enjoying March Madness in Las Vegas  .

[GoodOlBoy]

Oh and BTW, I'm in the good ol USA as we speak enjoying March Madness in Las Vegas  .

Please tell me we are not discussing LV RW??
 
Seriously dude??
 
I mean really dude... LV RW?? 
 
You can't even begin to believe that LV RW are anywhere near.....
 
I don't want to defame RW on this forum, but I can almost guess where you are on the strip right now (if your actually surrounded by RW). 
 
GOB

[Globetrotter]

How wonderful...the girls have spoken!  Some of my old RW girlfriends told me the same thing when we were no longer "in the game" that they wish to have someone close to their age. 
I wonder if Donald Trump thinks that his Brazilian beauty queen wife 35 years his junior thinks she loves him for his charm and good looks.  I mean...do you think Anna Nicole married for love?
I find women close to my age the most rewarding having grown up in the same time, like the same music, movies, and our conversations about our countries and cultures are incredible.  Mind you, she's beautiful, in incredible shape, loves sex, and we've become best friends.  For me it can't get any better.
But, if you can, and think you must, just go for it.  Just don't expect it to last a long time...not unlike our "brillient middle-aged poster" who married a teenager.
 

[GoodOlBoy]

And as far as dating RW in America, I have dated Russians there more than 10 years younger than me when I lived there, sorry to burst that bubble. But yes, not the norm.
 

Let me guess Chivo, you are North of the Nugget and South of CC. 
 
GOB

[chivo]

Let me guess Chivo, you are North of the Nugget and South of CC. 
 
GOB

Now you're just being an idiot. Let me guess, vodka.

[Doll]

  But, if you can, and think you must, just go for it.  Just don't expect it to last a long time...not unlike our "brillient middle-aged poster" who married a teenager.
 

+100

[GoodOlBoy]

Now you're just being an idiot. Let me guess, vodka.

Yeah, your starting to sound like Dan.
I just lost a ton of respect for you dude.
Good luck in "LV". 
 
GOB
 

[chivo]

What is your problem boy. WTF? Do you know what March Madness is? I'm with my woman you idiot. You know what, any respect I had for you left about an hour ago.
 
What a jackass.
 
But, hey, you sure know these places where the strippers are well enough.
 
Here's a tip for you. You need it.
http://www.drinklessnow.com/

[GoodOlBoy]

But, hey, you sure know these places where the strippers are well enough.

Yeah, I worked V.I.P. security, so I know a few things about LV, which obviously you don't.
 
GOB

BTW... If you ever come to South Beach (Miami) give me a heads up.