scammed by yeva4u

[Shadow]

"perfect fraud" is your translation of a legal term. It does by no means mean the lawyer considers it either perfect or fraud.

[bruttus]

"perfect fraud" is your translation of a legal term. It does by no means mean the lawyer considers it either perfect or fraud.

atleast i'm fighting back, what about you???

[Faux Pas]

"perfect fraud" is your translation of a legal term. It does by no means mean the lawyer considers it either perfect or fraud.

"perfect fraud" is also Lawyer speak for "send me another check"

[Ranetka]

Bruttus, you are spending money on this, why don't you invest in a professional translator? This google translation is so poor; if you are going to engage yourself further you need at least to understand what your lowers are advising you.


(by "perfect" they most likely meant "Taken place", "occurred").

[bruttus]

taken care of that
following lessons in school to speak the language, and i still got friends in Zaporozhye that can translate for me, so yeah, google trans. is very poor
and like i said, before i act, i do research, double check everything

but I'm not a person that gives up when something goes bad, but since i figured out that i was again scammed by a person on this forum, someone who did everything to earn mine trust, and used that trust to earn more money,  i realised that it won't end if nothing has been done, yes, its going to be hard and rough, but what do i have to lose, more money, yes that's true, but what is money, for those scammers is something to use to buy luxury, or go to Egypt on vacation, for us, just the same, but with 1 difference, we work for it, we earn it, those scammers just take it, and they take more than just money, they rip your heart out dance on it and while they dance, they laugh and say, look what a moron
Then they say like Appu from the Simpsons: Thank you, come again

So, if I'm being scammed, then its mine own fouled, but No Guts, No Glory

[Shadow]

atleast i'm fighting back, what about you???

I am trying to stop fools who throw good money at bad money.

As for fighting scams, I have been part of these and other forums since 2005, trying to talk sense in to people who need it.

Unfortunately most are so blinded that they only realise later what they could have done. My advise to you stands, a lawyer and court will only cost you money.
Let your friends inform the tax office about the nice amounts they make from foreigners and you have a chance they get punished.

As for the loss of money, its lost. If you could not afford to lose it, you should not have paid. If you can, why hold a grudge.

Your mistake is not uncommon, as it is very easy to make the mistake of making the tripwhen you are already married in your mind. The only thing you should do from it is learn. Nobody can rip out your heart unless you let them.

[jone]

Shadow,

No matter what you say or do, this individual will do as he chooses and for him that may be right.  I made a joke above about someone who spent his entire life in futility that made a difference only to him and to no one else.  I am really disappointed that it did not get comment because it proves a point that the things that are important to some people in the world have no relevance to others.

Even if he were to get a verdict against this individual it would not make one iota of difference in the next situation that occurs with other people.  Except that women might read about him and his experiences and put a big red target on his Popka going forward - both to scam and to avoid.

You have pointed out the flaws in his argument and now you must leave him to make his own mistakes.

[lonedrake]

but since i figured out that i was again scammed by a person on this forum, someone who did everything to earn mine trust, and used that trust to earn more money,

 I would like to hear this story.

[Shadow]

Jone,

I fully agree with you that it is up to him to make his own mistakes, and I am also sure there is very little chance anything here will change his mind.
Which is a pity, as if he had that ability it would help him much more as getting his case in court. 

Bruttus is not the first guy who got insanity in his head after being taken for a ride, and he probably will not be the last one. While I admire his tenacity, at the same time I see a major flaw in which he is not alone.

Many men here seem to consider searching a life partner as a business transaction. They browse catalogues for the right product, then try to obtain it at all cost as if its the latest iPhone in pre-release. If the product is not satisfactory, they require a full refund or will scream foul.
Unfortunately that sets them up too often, as their inability to differentiate between personal social life and business makes them an easy target for people in de FSU who are adept at bargaining and have no problem using their body as currency.

I am aware that I can come across as harsh and cynical on the newer members. And over the years due to married life and being out of the search that is something usual for the older group. However my intentions are always to help and make people think, even if it seems I am making a statement just to antagonize them.

I live in the same country as Bruttus, so I know how easy it could be for him to find someone in the FSU if he really concentrated on searching a life partner.
Also I see from his posts we share a common language, and that helps me to read in to his writing more easily.

[bruttus]

thanks, but i know the risk.
I went to try to seek to a FSU woman because i had enough of the girls in mine country
I knew the risks, i did research about before i made the step, but at that time i was not informed enough about scamming

About concentrating a lifepartner, well, i was forgetting those scammers when i was in Kharkov, at that moment, when i heard from that agent that here genuine girl was phoning almost daily to meet me, by then i wanted to go forward and clossing that chapter from Yeva4u.
but since i figured it out that the agent is more busy with here reputation and telling new members that she is not scammer, i decided to do something.

but this don't mean that i accept help or ignore the negative reply's, i do know the risk, and i really consider these things

[CDW]

I am trying to stop fools who throw good money at bad money.

As for fighting scams, I have been part of these and other forums since 2005, trying to talk sense in to people who need it.

Unfortunately most are so blinded that they only realise later what they could have done. My advise to you stands, a lawyer and court will only cost you money.
Let your friends inform the tax office about the nice amounts they make from foreigners and you have a chance they get punished.

As for the loss of money, its lost. If you could not afford to lose it, you should not have paid. If you can, why hold a grudge.

Your mistake is not uncommon, as it is very easy to make the mistake of making the tripwhen you are already married in your mind. The only thing you should do from it is learn. Nobody can rip out your heart unless you let them.

Shadow, I do not understand why you and other people keep on saying that he waste his money.  At least he is fighting for all of us.

Remember that most of you were divorced before you meet your current FSU wives.  Your investment had already been wasted from your previous wives. 

He is being "Martin Luther King" who fought the rights.

100 years ago, women weren't allowed to vote.  A woman fought the rights, and won.  If she hadn't fought, like you said "waste of time", then women would still not allowed to vote today.

[Daveman]

About concentrating a lifepartner, well, i was forgetting those scammers when i was in Kharkov, at that moment, when i heard from that agent that here genuine girl was phoning almost daily to meet me, by then i wanted to go forward and clossing that chapter from Yeva4u.
but since i figured it out that the agent is more busy with here reputation and telling new members that she is not scammer, i decided to do something.

Not sure I'm following completely...


So, the possibility of meeting a new woman in Kharkov took the edge off the anger/hurt/injury ascribed to the yeva4u clan enough to move on, but then you feel you were scammed again in Kharkov so decided to do something about yeva4u? 


Perhaps I missed some pertinent info... how were you scammed in Kharkov?  Are you not pursuing that one?

[Faux Pas]

thanks, but i know the risk.
I went to try to seek to a FSU woman because i had enough of the girls in mine country
I knew the risks, i did research about before i made the step, but at that time i was not informed enough about scamming

So bruttus after you were scammed, were the women in your country suddenly much more appealing than before? IMHO, what you have here is a life lesson, you've turned into a vendetta. As soon as you face reality that this woman caught you looking the other way with your pants down, the sooner you can move on and find the woman that you originally set out for. Life is too short.

About concentrating a lifepartner, well, i was forgetting those scammers when i was in Kharkov, at that moment, when i heard from that agent that here genuine girl was phoning almost daily to meet me, by then i wanted to go forward and clossing that chapter from Yeva4u.
but since i figured it out that the agent is more busy with here reputation and telling new members that she is not scammer, i decided to do something.

It's only money. Luckily it wasn't much more like the recent guy in Odessa with a few knots on his head and glad he's alive. Despite this gal taking your money and dropping you like a bad case of the clap. You gave it to her. She is still beating and scamming you and will until you move on with your life. Face it guy, you lost that one. The most healthy thing you could do is pin your ears back, pull up your bootstraps and get on with the business of living.

but this don't mean that i accept help or ignore the negative reply's, i do know the risk, and i really consider these things

You will always find a lawyer to take your money and agree with you

[Hammer2722]

You will always find a lawyer to take your money and agree with you

Especially in Ukraine! 

[cc3]

This whole thread is a monument to naivete, loss of innocence, and, dare I say, lower level intellectual functioning. 

[Shadow]

Shadow, I do not understand why you and other people keep on saying that he waste his money.  At least he is fighting for all of us.

Remember that most of you were divorced before you meet your current FSU wives.  Your investment had already been wasted from your previous wives. 

He is being "Martin Luther King" who fought the rights.

100 years ago, women weren't allowed to vote.  A woman fought the rights, and won.  If she hadn't fought, like you said "waste of time", then women would still not allowed to vote today.

CDW if he was "Martin Luther King" I would do anything I can to support him. Unfortunately, he is "Don Quixote".

His actions are solely for his personal closure and gratification, nobody other than those reading here in time will be scammed less. If he should ever be able to make enough waves to get the local agent in to trouble, the office will be closed and re-opened the next day with another pawn in place.

He can try to hunt and stalk one girl and her agency, but it will not create any awareness from the Ukrainian authorities, nor anywhere else.

If you look at things like the Agency Code of Ethics, this is where I have contributed in the past and would still be happy to contribute in to making it more transparent how the business models work and exactly who you are getting involved with.

[mies]

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[Faux Pas]

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YEAH! What she said! 

[Daveman]

YEAH! What she said! 

That's mies.. straight to the point. Period!

[ML]

Mies, I have heard of invisible ink for manual writing.

Which keys do you use on computer to set up the invisible type set?   

Maybe that would be good for use in flame wars.  We simply type the very worst things about someone . . . but they can't see it.  Wouldn't that drive people crazy?

[LAman]

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I  get the point!!!!   

[bruttus]

hi,

sorry for the sillence, but i had to be silenced as long as the first step of investigation was busy

first stap was a appeal for obtaining the resolution in Criminal investigation department with cybercrime and human trafficking
takes almost 2 weeks.
Now i received the request, so i have to start phase 2, preparing the petition
but to make it short, its good news, they found something

[bruttus]

for the non-believers
the girl who has scammed me the most, well repay me back in 250 USD/month
its confirmed, and given thru the lawyer, what some people said not to do it
losing 500 USD to lawyer, to get 11300 USD back, i don't think i did it bad

[Patagonie]

for the non-believers
the girl who has scammed me the most, well repay me back in 250 USD/month
its confirmed, and given thru the lawyer, what some people said not to do it
losing 500 USD to lawyer, to get 11300 USD back, i don't think i did it bad

I think that, if you get it, you have performed well. Justice is not always  a lost fight. You trust what you want to do, and if you get it, congrats.
I am not wanting to chase scammers, but i think guys who do it, if scammers are really guilty,  are necessary.

Continue to keep us informed.

[Patagonie]

no better, and mutch more on youre plate

He  wanted to say that belgium cooking is not so good, and you have some chance to still be hungry, excuse him, he didn't choiced his words in the properly manner.