scammed by yeva4u

[Doll]

Wow, Gator! So how about big bucks spent on the girls? Now you're singing a different song!
 

[OlgaH]

 Elizaveta?!   You knew this woman, had no sex with her and gave her money to fly to meet you in Belgium.  Again, you fault 100%.
 

As I understood from Bruttus' posts "having sex with the girls" was not his main goal  Is "having sex" some kind of indicator when a man should or should not send money?     But I agree that being trustful and naive is part of his fault.

[Faux Pas]

Gator, you owe Vasilisa and me an apology, actually- two.
Many of them)))) For "the country of deceit" for "ignorance of 95% of Russians, for "Doll's values".
Hello!

Yes Gator, maybe you owe these two an apology. Of course they do not owe any apology to bruttus. Afterall, Marina and Elizaveta are just two wholesome, pure as the driven snow, country farm girls, Like Doll and Vasilisa. 


Buzzards picking over a corpse. Their moral compass is the same as those "innocent victims from Yeva. 

[Gator]

Gator, you owe Vasilisa and me an apology, actually- two.
Many of them)))) For "the country of deceit" for "ignorance of 95% of Russians, for "Doll's values".
Hello!

No I don't. 
 
The majority opinion all along was as follows:  Yeva4u is a scamming agency,  Marina is a scammer, Elizaveta is a scammer, and Bruttus is foolish.  The specific answers Bruttus gave us reinforce that majority opinion, particularly the way Marina misled Brutus in their correspondence before meeting.  I am not sure about Elizaveta other than she accepted travel money to visit Brutus and did not show.  This is a scam,  but IMO not as bad as the one Marina orchestrated. 
 
OTOH, you assert that Marina and Elizaveta did nothing wrong.  I suppose this is because Bruttus was not savvy enough to detect their scam.  Just because someone forgets to lock his house it is not right for another person to come and steal his valuables.       Rather than debate this and our values, I propose that we agree to call it a scam-fantasy.  The fantasy is Bruttus's belief that these  two women were telling him the truth when all the time they were deceiving him.   
 
I have read nothing to suggest that Bruttus is a bad man, as implied in the undertone in some posts.  In fact, I am impressed by his fortitude in bearing the pain and humiliation of telling this boneheaded story.  That shows a strong character.  Bruttus will do fine in the future.   
 

[Doll]

Yes Gator, maybe you owe these two an apology. Of course they do not owe any apology to bruttus. Afterall, Marina and Elizaveta are just two wholesome, pure as the driven snow, country farm girls, Like Doll and Vasilisa. 


Buzzards picking over a corpse. Their moral compass is the same as those "innocent victims from Yeva. 

Easy with judgements!
Moral compass!)))))))))))))
Poor innocent boy wasted his big bucks! A very expensive piece of stupidity!

[bruttus]

about the parents, i don't know
but from what i know in the meantime, is that the mother knows everything what here daughter do
she had also the same cold distance, just like the daughter
about the father, i have doubts about it that he agreed with what the daughter was doing
i mean, he was the one who was asking questions, and showing photoalbums
i don't know if he played it, but it came really honnest over to me,

about the mother, well, i know who the boss was in they're home

[LAman]

No I don't. 
 
The majority opinion all along was as follows:  Yeva4u is a scamming agency,  Marina is a scammer, Elizaveta is a scammer, and Bruttus is foolish.  The specific answers Bruttus gave us reinforce that majority opinion, particularly the way Marina misled Brutus in their correspondence before meeting.  I am not sure about Elizaveta other than she accepted travel money to visit Brutus and did not show.  This is a scam,  but IMO not as bad as the one Marina orchestrated. 
 
OTOH, you assert that Marina and Elizaveta did nothing wrong.  I suppose this is because Bruttus was not savvy enough to detect their scam.  Just because someone forgets to lock his house it is not right for another person to come and steal his valuables.       Rather than debate this and our values, I propose that we agree to call it a scam-fantasy.  The fantasy is Bruttus's belief that these  two women were telling him the truth when all the time they were deceiving him.   
 
I have read nothing to suggest that Bruttus is a bad man, as implied in the undertone in some posts.  In fact, I am impressed by his fortitude in bearing the pain and humiliation of telling this boneheaded story.  That shows a strong character.  Bruttus will do fine in the future.   

Just some side points....has anyone ever heard of a 'scammer' bringing her/his victom over for a dinner with the family??? Guess they can just talk about all the money fleeced and have a great laugh!!!!
At what point does foolishness turn into someone with major personal issues. Gator, savvy? The OP mentioned earlier he was 'used' by the girls back home. So apparently he was 'scammed' there too!!!
Hopefully Bruttus will do fine in the future but he has plenty of work to do based on his past experiences. The future is only thing he can control, I wish him the best!!
In the court of RWD.......it is the only place where one side of the story is told and judgement is made about others that cannot defend themselves....even to the point of the 'others' being called deragatory names.....but I guess many are okay with that.....

[Vasilisa]

Bruttus, are you Indian?

[bruttus]

Bruttus, are you Indian?

no, why??

[CDW]

sorry, it was 70 usd a day, so it was something around 1200usd, for the entire 3 weeks

Do you need help with your maths lesson? 

[bruttus]

Do you need help with your maths lesson?

if you really wants to act like a teacher,
i payed 940 euro, in USDA it is 1254.43 USDA
so if you really wanna say something, count it out first, see from witch country i am, and then tell
around 1200 USDA, doesn't mean a bit more or a bit less, its around, and BTW, Valida changes everyday

[CDW]

if you really wants to act like a teacher,
i payed 940 euro, in USDA it is 1254.43 USDA
so if you really wanna say something, count it out first, see from witch country i am, and then tell
around 1200 USDA, doesn't mean a bit more or a bit less, its around, and BTW, Valida changes everyday

sorry, it was 70 usd a day, so it was something around 1200usd, for the entire 3 weeks

That's the real maths lesson 

[bruttus]

 

[Gator]

CDW, is this important to the discussion?

[CDW]

CDW, is this important to the discussion?

Yes very important.  You do not want to meet a lady who thinks you know 1+1=3  ja ja ja !!!

[CDW]

By the way, I have joined Yeva-4u about a week ago to take a look at it.   What a useless website!  Very disorganized!!!
 
I cannot find my way there 

[delevero]

yeva4u scam. STAY AWAY.
 
My story.
I spend about 8 month on that agency, and I send about 200 letters to girls.
Im an experienced internet dater and have been on many dates with ladys in ukraine and now also moscow.
The girls seem nice and interesting but slowly a picture started to form that something did not feel right.
It started with me meeting "anastasia" a lovely blonde from Kiev/ukraine. I desided to her city and told her, and she would be happy to meet with me ect.. Then i bought airplane ticket and hotel ect. but 1 day before i came she surdely was so busy with school that she could not meet me ;-(   well I came anyway and meet someone els from another agency.
Well to let you know It is kind of wird that somone do not know they will be busy with an excamination in school ect. many weeks in advance.. Anyway we continue talking and in january 1-7 she said she would have vacation and time to meet me.. I bought another airplane ticket, but few days before I came she kind of laughed at me since everyone would be busy these days and she would be busy ect ect ect.... it make me angry.. I cancel my trip.
Anyway I desided not to spend time on her and instead I got to know 5 girls from moscow since I wanted to see the city and they where interesting.
We spoke for 3 month in many letters and everything did really look good.. People where interesting and nice, but they again and again send me photos that where already on their profiles, and never any new photos.. ( it cost money to view photos ).
I said to everyone that I would soon come, and i mention this 30-14-7-5-3 days that I was looking forward meeting them..
But 0-5 days before my arrival everyone surdenly was either on a business trip, or where going on one..... and let me say this with other words.. that is unrealistic that 5 people have the same story and that nobody want to meet with me.
If I compare that to other agency i used in the past, then a russian/ukraine girl would so to speak make it her priority to meet me since its her big chance of changing her life and finding love and get married.. People do not joing an agency for fun... I even witnessed people who where prepared to travel from one end of a country to meet with me.
Anyway on yeva4u its different.... As i said 5 people surdenly had many excuses.
I got angry and i desided to look through all of moscows escort sites with prostitutes since their story did not add up..
I found several of the girls on various agencys as escort ladys,and i send one of the girls an sms wishing her a good trip to cuba.
She later replied that she was not really on a "business" trip ect.  but that she would actually be happy to meet me rather than going on a business trip.. I did actually belive her and felt kind of sorry for the both of us.
I then asked other girls on a date, yes you can almost call it a kind of blind date since we did hardly know each other.
I asked the agency to contact them, but they replied that i was allowed to do that my self and give them my address.
but every single letter that I send to them with my address saying that if they wanted to go on a date, then they could contact me at my hotel ect.... well every single letter was censored and they could not read my phone number and address.... ;-(   
Anyway after 7 days I travel home since I was so sad about everything, and especially that 5 people treated me this way.
To make a long story short I wrote a letter to everyone and told them my story, but it just felt like people did not read my letters or reply to them... one girl even where supprised to read that I had been in her city, she did not know....... ehhhh i told her minimum 3 times..
 
Well its a long story but the period right before my trip and during my trip and after, it really did just feel like people where trying to make the conversation going. Or said with other words, make the MAN send and read letters so the agency make money.
 
I truly belive yeva4u is fake, both many of the girls, but especially the agency it self.
My 2 trips, 1 to ukraine and 1 moscow cost me like 5000-7000usd totalt, and i did not meet anyone.
I very seriously belive that yeva pay people to write letters to men like me to spend money on their website.
I know some of the girls are real, since I was them on other serious and well known dating sites such as anastasiadate and I had only good
experiences with their agency and their ladys are REAL!!!!     But i saw some of the same girls on yeva4u so i know the girl on anastasia is real, but im not quite sure if the profile on yeva4u is just a copy and another person is writing the letter.
BE SAFE, do not use Yeva4u..
 
I have asked yeva4u to refund my money for all the money i spend on their agency, and transfer them to my bank account.
And then delete my account.  I write this today simply to warn people about that agency.

ps.
I do not plan to use this forum.. i just wrote my story to warn people... you can send me e-mail ( in my profile ) if you have questions or comments to me directly.

[Gator]

As i said 5 people surdenly had many excuses.
I got angry and i desided to look through all of moscows escort sites with prostitutes since their story did not add up..
I found several of the girls on various agencys as escort ladys.....
 
I truly belive yeva4u is fake, both many of the girls, but especially the agency it self.
My 2 trips, 1 to ukraine and 1 moscow cost me like 5000-7000usd totalt, and i did not meet anyone.

Thanks for your testimony.  Better luck next time.
 
Somehow people such as CDW read this and still join.   I can imagine that the women are not only beautiful, but have suggestive and revealing photos.  Male hormones will distort your mind.    I suggest that the next man who joins Yeva should spank his monkey before opening the website, rather than during.   

[SANDRO43]

I have asked yeva4u to refund my money for all the money i spend on their agency, and transfer them to my bank account.

Quite unlikely that they will oblige , but let us know if they do.

[Patagonie]

Thank you very much to share this story. This is very valuable to newbies.
So newbies, read carefully what happened.
1/ a lot of agencies write in place of girls, STOP to dream.
2/ When something is wrong, the best is not to try to break the wall, the best is to change of street.
3/ We have read this type of story a lot of times.
AS LONG you have not built a genuine relation with one woman (if possible several) better to let your a**** in your coach.
OR you are going to use LOCAL agencies (trustable is possible) as backup, but you HAVE TO prepare this before the trip.

[CDW]

 
Somehow people such as CDW read this and still join.

Yes but it doesn't mean I am going to pay for the services

[bruttus]

hey, its me again

i did research by myself about that scam agency, mainly true google earth

the address :  Russia,ST.Petersburg , Marata 57 is an apartment above a Turkish restaurant, near a police office

operating company for yeva-4u.com.ua -CAPORES LIMITED, LARNAKA, CYPRUS, 7600, don't exist, i came out as an adres for a museum or a college school in Cyprus
and the IP adres from yeva4u.com.ua is located in Australia

[charlesdunkel]

Hello People

The matter is still the site Yeva.
When know about this being a bad site, I had already paid for some credits. Eventually, after some complaints, received as a bonus credits lost through the various frauds committed on the site. Something in the range of $ 200 or $ 300. I'm baffled by these cases in which people lose thousands of dollars on such scams!
How can we contribute to the removal of this site down?
I discovered many faults and with the complicity of the girls who work for them.
Some examples:
All days come with attractive securities messages and when you open, as a cash credit, now they come with an attached photo and open it, will be discounted more credit, but it is common to be equal to a photo of the profile, without new. You must complain to get this second credit back.

These messages indicate, even if they do not open for not spending credit, which the girl is interested in you. But if you enter the menu GIRLS LOOKED YOUR PROFILE IN LAST 72 HOURS, they are not there, something like a history that indicates they write with interest but do not know who you are.

These messages are not random. Often appear in ascending order of ID and it's very weird to have girls from different regions and writing information in sequence but with ID as 16470025, 16470026, 16470027!

On the MAIN MENU is displayed and birthdays of the DAY I got it and it turned in a girl with two different profiles, so stupid tactic where they put the same anniversary date for the two profiles with the same photos. Sometimes one or another different photo. It seems to be agreed between the people inside.

It is common to write you a letter large and with many questions and she answers another subject, do not comment much about it and still ask you to tell more things.

Worse is when she changes your name in the text, indicating that it is the same answer for all men.

I got in VEKONTAKTE registration and is easy do a search on Yeva and in many cases indicate the existence of the same girl, but if you talk about yeva is common they ignore you, change the photos, block access, terminate the profile, or no longer respond.
Among hundreds addressed by me,  just one girl opened the game and told me that they receive a small percentage, something like cents of every message that we spend on the site. She said that most girls with beautiful photos in the profile are all false.
I've met girls married and mother of children and keeping the VK profile when in the single in Yeva. Critical sent without response, with access blocked in VK but continued writing me in Yeva. I want to spread this case for relatives and friends and your husband.

It is common in yeva site, find girls wearing pictures of famous models in russia and ukraine, and wonder why it has no control? I presented this complaint for these models but only one showed concern. She complained and took profile yeva out  air.

Also when a girl is reported in yeva, have off the picture but the profile is running. Sometimes, online photo of the girl appears with the title of which is calling for a conversation and when you click on it, have the message profile not found. Maybe she'll be appearing for several less for you who made the complaint.

It is this nonsense that you write to the girl, and LETTERS SENT you can see if she received YES or NO. And even if they do not read your letter that you paid to write, She is sending the messages for you to pay and read, or warnings that the same girl calls you to chat or telephone, but the important thing is that the letter you sent was not read. I have had several cases like this and complained that the girls did not read the letters they are still active on the site in other resources. Do not have answer.

[charlesdunkel]

Your tickets:
Nov, 14 2011 Re:hello, you have some calls and new replies from ladies:
Nov, 14 2011 membership
Dec, 05 2011 Re:very important information
Dec, 05 2011 Re:here it is example of scamers, be careful please:
Dec, 10 2011 Hi Lia
Dec, 15 2011 Profile not found.
Dec, 15 2011 Redirect
Jan, 01 2012 Re:HAPPY NEW 2012 YEAR!!!
Jan, 04 2012 Request
Jan, 09 2012 So do not give
Jan, 15 2012 Credits are robbing me!
Jan, 17 2012 doubt
Jan, 20 2012 This site is a scammer trying to swallow my credits?
Jan, 20 2012 another girl who does not read the letter but call me
Jan, 20 2012 I wish this girl would read my letter
Jan, 20 2012 I wish this girl would read my letter
Jan, 20 2012 I wish this girl would read my letter
Jan, 20 2012 34 girls not read my letters, but call me on the phone
Jan, 20 2012 2 profiles
Jan, 27 2012 Reports of crimes
Jan, 30 2012 2 profiles
Feb, 07 2012 2 Profiles
Mar, 12 2012 fake profile
Apr, 02 2012 Scammer
May, 28 2012 15825459 Fake

[SANDRO43]

How can we contribute to the removal of this site down?

I'm afraid that's going to be a difficult proposition, one would first have to discover who has some jurisdiction over it (an authority in Russia, in Cyprus, in Australia?) then build a case against them for fraud.

Their servers appear to be at IMENA.UA, a Kiev outfit, so you'd have to add Ukraine to the above list .

I already mentioned that years ago I wrote to a number of SPB newspapers denouncing their practices and offering to supply details, but received no answers.