Elena's Models

[Daveman]

It is only for 1st impressions, but what about after..... writing letters 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 99th.  Pay more for translations!!
...

Sometimes, yes. When you have something you *really* want to ensure she understands.   

[TheTraveler]

the purpose of this thread escapes me.

op discards thread's best advice (daveman), yet wonders why he's batting 0.055?

i recommend u just keep doing what you're doing.

after all, if i were to show you how to write a profile that attracts hundreds of women, then i'd have to write all your future emails too in order to maintain the illusion and the same high standard.

[Chelseaboy]

CDW,
        I can name you sites where you'd get a far better response,where model type girls will throw themselves at you.
Of course the vast majority of them would be paid chatters and/or prodaters,and their "letters" may well come from agency workers,but you'll certainly be getting your ego boosted.
With regard to EM,i'd certainly get some photo's done of yourself wearing some smart,casual clothes.A photo of you stylishly suited and booted wouldn't go amiss either,it will give the impression you're not short of a few bob,even if in reality you're not earning as much as an investment banker.

[CDW]

CDW,
        I can name you sites where you'd get a far better response,where model type girls will throw themselves at you.
Of course the vast majority of them would be paid chatters and/or prodaters,and their "letters" may well come from agency workers,but you'll certainly be getting your ego boosted.
With regard to EM,i'd certainly get some photo's done of yourself wearing some smart,casual clothes.A photo of you stylishly suited and booted wouldn't go amiss eithe r,it will give the impression you're not short of a few bob,even if in reality you're not earning as much as an investment banker.

The problem is that I want to be myself.  I haven't worn any suit for about 20 years, and therefore don't have much photos.  I have photos of myself wearing smart, casual clothing, but with my ex-girlfriend!  Not very appropriate to place them in.

I have a good photo, but I don't want them to think I live in that house - my grandmother's house as you can see the background - granny's interior!!

[Darth_Budda]

The problem is that I want to be myself.  I haven't worn any suit for about 20 years, and therefore don't have much photos.  I have photos of myself wearing smart, casual clothing, but with my ex-girlfriend!  Not very appropriate to place them in.

I have a good photo, but I don't want them to think I live in that house - my grandmother's house as you can see the background - granny's interior!!

How about a outside photo with dress pants and a nice light sweater? make sure the shirt under the sweater has a nice collar and try some cuff links...

Got to get rid of the jeans man... 

[Spoon]

it will give the impression you're not short of a few bob,even if in reality you're not earning as much as an investment banker.

Hmmm, wouldn't follow that advice CDW, when do you tell the lady that the Hugo Boss suit, Rolex and Roberto Cavalli sunglasses were all just borrowed trappings for the photo shoot? Just before the deal is signed on a wedding plan that you have no hope of paying for? keep it real.

BTW photo in your Grandmothers house looks fine to me, I think a lot of FSU women would find an interior like that quite 'elegant'

How about cropping the ex out of some of the nice photos, most photo editing applications will have this basic tool. Cheaper than new photos.

[CDW]

How about a outside photo with dress pants and a nice light sweater? make sure the shirt under the sweater has a nice collar and try some cuff links...

Got to get rid of the jeans man... 

No, the jeans stays!!  This is 21st century, not 1990s lol

[CDW]

Hmmm, wouldn't follow that advice CDW, when do you tell the lady that the Hugo Boss suit, Rolex and Roberto Cavalli sunglasses were all just borrowed trappings for the photo shoot? Just before the deal is signed on a wedding plan that you have no hope of paying for? keep it real.

BTW photo in your Grandmothers house looks fine to me, I think a lot of FSU women would find an interior like that quite 'elegant'

How about cropping the ex out of some of the nice photos, most photo editing applications will have this basic tool. Cheaper than new photos.

Exactly - I do not want to pretend, and by wearing Hugo Boss suit would give the ladies impression that I have lots of money!!  I do not like looking at ladies who have professional studio photos, because they are hard to imagine the real them.  They are ok for fashion shows, going for an interview, or meeting you for real, but we want to see the 'real' them.

I wouldn't wear Hugo Boss suit when going to meet them for real 

By profession, I am in the fashion business (ladies elegant evening dresses), and studying Interior Design (home study course - spare time) but I graduated Mathematics & Statistics lol.  It is much easier to style someone else than styling for myself !!!

[JohnDearGreen]

By profession, I am in the fashion business (ladies elegant evening dresses), and studying Interior Design (home study course - spare time) but I graduated Mathematics & Statistics lol.  It is much easier to style someone else than styling for myself !!!

Maybe you should emphasize the fashion design business in your ad and search various sites for ladies who might also be interested in being your partner in that field.  There is an oversupply of college graduates in that area in the US with few opportunities available.


A quick google search found two interested in fashion design:
http://www.ukraine-woman.com/gal/details/100424414/8132509ae
http://www.anastasiadate.co.uk/profile-ukrainian-mail-order-bride-Olga-1681413.htm

[CDW]

Maybe you should emphasize the fashion design business in your ad and search various sites for ladies who might also be interested in being your partner in that field.  There is an oversupply of college graduates in that area in the US with few opportunities available.


A quick google search found two interested in fashion design:
http://www.ukraine-woman.com/gal/details/100424414/8132509ae
http://www.anastasiadate.co.uk/profile-ukrainian-mail-order-bride-Olga-1681413.htm

As a matter of fact, a lady "not interested" in me when she is a fashion designer in her profile lol

Fashion Buyer (me) and fashion designer work very well together!!  She probably only looked at my picture lol

[JohnDearGreen]

One of the things I liked about the aprettywoman web site was you could search on occupation.

http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033B4429359971.97.82.1101334427640
http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033S5239359971.97.82.1101334427640
http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033W2989359971.97.82.1101334427640
http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033J2969359971.97.82.1101334427640

[CDW]

A quick google search found two interested in fashion design:
http://www.ukraine-woman.com/gal/details/100424414/8132509ae
http://www.anastasiadate.co.uk/profile-ukrainian-mail-order-bride-Olga-1681413.htm

1st woman:  "What is your favourite activity or hobby? Design (I like to create fashion design and landscape)" - a hobby! 
"Job Title: Designer" - it doesn't say Fashion, but it could be a landscape designer or an interior designer, or newspaper column designer lol

Olga-1681413:   "so my hobbies - fashion design. I sew things for myself, for my son and for my friends" - not a real fashion designer - just wannabe!!


Thanks anyway

[CDW]

One of the things I liked about the aprettywoman web site was you could search on occupation.

http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033B4429359971.97.82.1101334427640
http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033S5239359971.97.82.1101334427640
http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033W2989359971.97.82.1101334427640
http://aprettywoman.com/d.cgi?1033J2969359971.97.82.1101334427640

I agree but still doesn't mean that they are telling the truth.  It could be that they WANTED to become fashion designers - their dream!

I would have to ask them about fashion designers and talk about history and famous names.  If they know nothing about it, then they aren't real fashion designers by education or by profession

[JohnDearGreen]

I would have to ask them about fashion designers and talk about history and famous names.  If they know nothing about it, then they aren't real fashion designers by education or by profession

Are you looking to get your foot in their office door or in their apartment door?

[Faux Pas]

The problem is that I want to be myself.  I haven't worn any suit for about 20 years, and therefore don't have much photos.  I have photos of myself wearing smart, casual clothing, but with my ex-girlfriend!  Not very appropriate to place them in.

I have a good photo, but I don't want them to think I live in that house - my grandmother's house as you can see the background - granny's interior!!

You know the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results 

[Anotherkiwi]

No, the jeans stays!!  This is 21st century, not 1990s lol

You still don't get what people are trying to tell you - many FSU women who are looking for foreign husbands are not in the 21st century!  They still hark back to a much more formal era, when someone trying to introduce themselves would wear (for want of a better term) their "Sunday best."  Why do you think that so many of these women have photos of themselves in very formal evening gowns or cocktail dresses?  They are modern enough not to expect that you will wear a suit all the time (unless you work in Threadneedle Street!), but photos of you in a suit are to show them what you are like when you are "scrubbed up."
 
Sure, have photos of yourself in a less formal setting - but put the more formal photos first!  It doesn't matter if you have to borrow or hire a suit for these - you can always explain to anyone who seems sincere that you just wanted to look your best for an initial impression.  Remember that RW are expecting hoping for honesty - so long as you tell them that you don't wear a suit in day-to-day life you should be fine.
 


Formal photos will not deter any woman, but the lack of a formal photo may cause your "soulmate" or "other half" to go right on by.
 
In this sense, too, I'm with the group that says you should put in your profile that you are deaf.  Why waste your time (and theirs) on correspondence, however brief, when there is something so integral to your life which they don't know about?  Be certain that, if you disclose this in your profile, every response which is favourable will be from someone who has factored this into the possibility of living with you in the future.

[CDW]

You still don't get what people are trying to tell you - many FSU women who are looking for foreign husbands are not in the 21st century!  They still hark back to a much more formal era, when someone trying to introduce themselves would wear (for want of a better term) their "Sunday best."  Why do you think that so many of these women have photos of themselves in very formal evening gowns or cocktail dresses?  They are modern enough not to expect that you will wear a suit all the time (unless you work in Threadneedle Street!), but photos of you in a suit are to show them what you are like when you are "scrubbed up."
 
Sure, have photos of yourself in a less formal setting - but put the more formal photos first!  It doesn't matter if you have to borrow or hire a suit for these - you can always explain to anyone who seems sincere that you just wanted to look your best for an initial impression.  Remember that RW are expecting hoping for honesty - so long as you tell them that you don't wear a suit in day-to-day life you should be fine.
 


Formal photos will not deter any woman, but the lack of a formal photo may cause your "soulmate" or "other half" to go right on by.
 
In this sense, too, I'm with the group that says you should put in your profile that you are deaf.  Why waste your time (and theirs) on correspondence, however brief, when there is something so integral to your life which they don't know about?  Be certain that, if you disclose this in your profile, every response which is favourable will be from someone who has factored this into the possibility of living with you in the future.

If you are expert on Russian women then why is it:

Status: Looking 3-5 years
Trips: 1 - 3

and have you ever learnt why you are still looking for a Russian woman after 3-5 years searching ????

[CDW]

In this sense, too, I'm with the group that says you should put in your profile that you are deaf. 

Do all Russian women put on their profiles  "I do not speak English" ??????????????

Most importantly, has all men put on their profiles that they do not speak Russian ?????????????

If you advert for business, you do not put any negative words in - you can ask any copywriters.  I predict I will get a Russian woman (or even a Latin woman) by end of July.

[Daveman]

Few days ago I joined Elena's Models and send  "Send Expression of interest letter" to:  18 women

so far:
1 - interested
6 - Not interested

11 - not yet read

Is it normal to receive so many women that aren't interested in me?  I send out to women age ranging: 32-42, and they aren't supermodel women.

Am I 'too young' for them?  I might be 43 years old, but I don't even look like it as you can see my photo.

I'll just go back to this...


>>Is it normal to receive so many women that aren't interested in me?<<


No, it isn't.  If you want more positive responses, you need to change something in your approach... otherwise, don't worry about the quantity of positives but rather the quality of the few. Maybe you'll get only a few but perhaps they'll all be really really really interested...

[Patagonie]

I'll just go back to this...


>>Is it normal to receive so many women that aren't interested in me?<<


No, it isn't.  If you want more positive responses, you need to change something in your approach... otherwise, don't worry about the quantity of positives but rather the quality of the few. Maybe you'll get only a few but perhaps they'll all be really really really interested...

+1
What you have not understood.
By sending (i don't know exactly how many you sent) 20 signs of interest to your favorites ladies and getting very few interest because your publish a poor profile you have simply fired yourself with 20 ladies. For thoses who have already looked your profile you are ...... almost dead.
Next time you will send a message she will instantly link your photo with her memorized answer : NO, i don't like.
Consequently if you continue stubbornly (why come here if you argue of any idea expressed to help you and afterwards always have a "good" explanation to deny it?  ) to act like this in any site you would score negative mark with all your favorites ladies.
I would explain you that your only choice will be to change of sites (and they are not an endless bunch of good sites) or to wait one year to see the list of girls be renewed.
Unfortunately, on the  dating scene you have generally to score at first shot to pass the test : "she want to start to exchange letters with me". THEY FILTER you.
And i don't speak about your disability. 

[newjason]

hi CDW

I think you have potential and should be quite able to find who you seek.
Make it easy on yourself.
Go to Olan Mills or some place like it and get some headshots done.
Some photos like you had done for your senior year of high school     
You will not need a suit for that.

The other thing ..  you should mention that you need to use enhanced aural communication skills.

If you don't present this up front, karma may just introduce you to a beautiful Russian. 
Who later tells you he has a penis. This is the kind of thing you want to know up front  yes?

Your ego may need some fine tuning also.
Just be yourself, and you will find the one that accepts you for you.

and most of all
have fun


Jason

[Anotherkiwi]

Do all Russian women put on their profiles  "I do not speak English" ??????????????

Most importantly, has all men put on their profiles that they do not speak Russian ?????????????

If you advert for business, you do not put any negative words in - you can ask any copywriters. I predict I will get a Russian woman (or even a Latin woman) by end of July.

1. On reputable sites, such as EM - yes, they do.  Very few would consider that they speak absolutely no English, and those few that I've seen make it quite clear.
 
2. It's taken for granted that men do not speak Russian unless they explicitly say otherwise in their profiles.
 
3. For crying out loud!  You are not advertising for business - you are trying to find a wife!  You don't keep information as critical as this hidden from the person who may become Mrs CDW.
 
4. Hold that thought but, as one of our well-known series of advertisements (for a brewery) goes: "Yeah, right!"
 
I know that I seemed like cannon fodder to some of the OMBs here when I first joined this site, but at least I've been there, done that...you haven't.  Try concentrating on the message, not shooting the messenger because you don't like what you read.  Seriously - what have you possibly got to lose by following my advice?
 
 

[Anotherkiwi]

If you are expert on Russian women then why is it:

Status: Looking 3-5 years
Trips: 1 - 3

and have you ever learnt why you are still looking for a Russian woman after 3-5 years searching ????

I have never claimed to be an expert on Russian women - I'm going by what I've read on here and what I've been told by numerous Russian women that I've corresponded with or spoken to.  Who am I to argue with information coming directly from the horse's mouth?
 
Why am I still looking after all this time?  It's none of your business, but I'll respond anyway - I'm very, VERY choosy!  As children aren't a factor in my future I'm not in a rush to find someone who realistically would have to be young enough to be my own daughter.  I could possibly have married the first woman I went to meet in Russia, even though there was no chemistry between us when we met, but I doubt that it would have lasted very long.
 
I'm also not fixated on finding a Russian bride - I have a very busy life which doesn't actually leave much time for searching (whether in the FSU or here at home), so for most of the time I'm quite happy just to respond to emails from women who have seen my profile.  When I'm close to making another trip then I will start to seriously work on the favourite ladies I've already selected.

[newjason]

What is up with this trend of new guys coming here to ask for opinions / advice
then a page or two later,  saying that it's not what they wanted.

Do all Russian women put on their profiles  "I do not speak English" ??????????????
Most importantly, has all men put on their profiles that they do not speak Russian ?????????????

If you advert for business, you do not put any negative words in - you can ask any copywriters.  I predict I will get a Russian woman (or even a Latin woman) by end of July.

Hold on,  you said
in regaurds to new clothes

"The problem is that I want to be myself. "

So, you want to be yourself , except don't tell your dates about yourself. ?   That's being consistent for sure.

You will get a woman by the end of July for sure,  ok.

Then why are you here arguing with people who you were asking advice.

If you have the answers, stop with the questions and go out and get your woman and get married for goodness sake.

Anotherkiwi was giving you some valuable experience,  but you turn around and ask why he's an expert?


Here is the last thing

Your problem lies not with your appearance, or even with your disability.

[Faux Pas]

Do all Russian women put on their profiles  "I do not speak English" ??????????????

Most importantly, has all men put on their profiles that they do not speak Russian ?????????????

If you advert for business, you do not put any negative words in - you can ask any copywriters.  I predict I will get a Russian woman (or even a Latin woman) by end of July.

What is your definition of "get"? Get one to respond to your profile as in send you an email? Or, line one up to go meet? July isn't that far off and you are not shopping for a puppy. If you continue on your current path you may not even have a serious EOI by then.

You've received some pretty good advice on this thread so far and seem hellbent on ignoring it. Trust me when I tell you, some pictures in your profile in some business causal attire and your hair combed will make a tremendous difference in the response you will receive. These guys aren't making this stuff up. It's the reality of internet intros. You've got just once to make a first impression and in your current stage that equates to about 2 seconds. You don't have to worry about posting your hearing issue, most ladies won't get that far in your profile anyway.

It's not rules or about breaking them. It is the reality of what you are doing. Are you cruising the profiles of the frumpiest, disheveled women on the site? I didn't think so. Then why insist your profile projecting that you have no interest in your personal appearance?